Cheap High Quality Bubbler

[cybrguy]

I prefer scientific personally, simple perc/low diff, and so much American glass seems heady to the extreme. At a certain point, it ceases to be functional even if it hits great, just because it's got so much ornamentation you just know breakage is waiting to happen. If a friend handed me a $1000+ WP to hit, I wouldn't take it. No thanks. I wouldn't enjoy hitting it, just worrying the whole time that I'm going to be the dick that busts it. Put that on the shelf please. And that's cool too! Whatever people want to buy is cool because most people have a hobby they geek out on.

I think similarly. I have never spent more than $150 on a glass piece, and frankly don't intend to if I can avoid it. I think much of it is beautiful and I'm quite certain that some of it is worth much more than I am willing to pay, especially as art, but not for me. I am more utilitarian about this stuff and glass for me is a means to an end, not the end in itself.
Like @ataxian I am acutely aware that glass breaks, and breaks easily, and expensive glass is just an offer to me to watch my money get swept into the dust bin. Unlike @ataxian I can learn from HIS experience and not have to have the experience myself. I'm funny that way...
I DO like cool glass and have a fun piece or two, and there are a few more I would like to have (like a fab something, etc) but I struggle against buying glass as soon as it gets over $50 or $60 rather than in 3 or 4 digits. Again, that's just me and my own tastes and spending priorities and is no value judgement for others. But that is why this is the glass thread where I spend the most time.

And, BTW, even the cheap glass I get has to be functional. A decent perc, well designed flow etc are critical, no matter how much you pay. But since the Chinese are mostly copying others design that can certainly come along with cheap glass. But not always...

 

[ataxian]

I think similarly. I have never spent more than $150 on a glass piece, and frankly don't intend to if I can avoid it. I think much of it is beautiful and I'm quite certain that some of it is worth much more than I am willing to pay, especially as art, but not for me. I am more utilitarian about this stuff and glass for me is a means to an end, not the end in itself.
Like @ataxian I am acutely aware that glass breaks, and breaks easily, and expensive glass is just an offer to me to watch my money get swept into the dust bin. Unlike @ataxian I can learn from HIS experience and not have to have the experience myself. I'm funny that way...
I DO like cool glass and have a fun piece or two, and there are a few more I would like to have (like a fab something, etc) but I struggle against buying glass as soon as it gets over $50 or $60 rather than in 3 or 4 digits. Again, that's just me and my own tastes and spending priorities and is no value judgement for others. But that is why this is the glass thread where I spend the most time.

And, BTW, even the cheap glass I get has to be functional. A decent perc, well designed flow etc are critical, no matter how much you pay. But since the Chinese are mostly copying others design that can certainly come along with cheap glass. But not always...

@cybrguy you are preaching to the choir!

I'm guilty of breaking most glass pieces!
I paid good $$$ for custom blown piece's.
Dropping them was SAD!

I buy from dhgate or amazon and still break it.
When it's $20 - $40 piece breaks I order a new one without grief.
CANNABIS is the true value!

 

[GreenHopper]

So I received the below bubbler:

[link removed]

I really like the main chamber, it's got the same volume (125-50ml) as my MFLB Orbiter but a much wider base. I'll take some pics when I get my camera back from my friend.

Unfortunately the Ash Catcher was smashed on arrival, I've sent an email so we will see how the vendor handles that.

I'm not a fan of the Mouth Piece, it flare is about 2x-3x larger than the ones @Oregonglassblower does so I've sent him a message too asking for a custom option.

Both the downstems arrived intact and are swappable so I can play with either a matrix perc or showerhead (Mushroom). I can see one downside of being able to swap the downstems is the risk of breaking them when removing/inserting them into the main or ash's catchers chambers. Obviously this is not a fault of the design, it is in fact by design, just means I have to be careful and vigilant.

My only two concerns with this glass is the male GonG for the mouthpiece, only time will tell how sturdy it is and if the piece is large enough in volume to support the FlowerPot. I've been reading up and it seems the FP (especially the Shower Head) is more suited to bubblers with large volume.

Modnote: Link to labeled counterfeit glass removed

 

[cybrguy]

So, that looks to be a version of the FC-Mod from Steven (which is a knock of someones [Vapexhale maybe] crazy priced glass component piece). Along with some kind of fab, Steven's version of that is all I still really want to add to my collection. I tend to be an erector set or frankenglass kind of guy when it come to glass pieces and this would be great for it. Yes, @ataxian , I still blame you for this affliction...

https://www.dhgate.com/product/2015...atrix/255741536.html#s1-0-1b;searl|1238202988

 

[GreenHopper]

So, that looks to be a version of the FC-Mod from Steven (which is a knock of someones [Vapexhale maybe] crazy priced glass component piece). Along with some kind of fab, Steven's version of that is all I still really want to add to my collection. I tend to be an erector set or frankenglass kind of guy when it come to glass pieces and this would be great for it. Yes, @ataxian , I still blame you for this affliction...

https://www.dhgate.com/product/2015...atrix/255741536.html#s1-0-1b;searl|1238202988

Yeh that's exactly it.

My main issue is the Flared Mouthpiece is too large.

It's also hard to watch the chamber filling with vapor when using, a minor issue.

I love being able to take out the perc's to clean and swap for different diffusion options.

 

[cybrguy]

It's also hard to watch the chamber filling with vapor when using, a minor issue.

Heh heh. Yeah, my Vapecycler is the same thing. Have to use it in front of a mirror to get the full effect and see the vortex.

 

[GreenHopper]

Heh heh. Yeah, my Vapecycler is the same thing. Have to use it in front of a mirror to get the full effect and see the vortex.

Haha I was wondering if a mirror would end up being part of my vape apparatus.

I tried twisting the Mouthpiece to the side, tipping my head and keeping the bubbler low. This resulted in:

1. Being able to see the chamber fill
2. Dribbling down the mouthpiece requiring an immediate re-clean
3. Me looking like Quasimodo trying to play a glass saxophone

I like the piece but I'm really hoping OGB gets back to me with a custom MP, I really hate the stock one.

 

[cybrguy]

If you know before ordering that you aren't gonna like the MP you may be able to ask Steven if there is an alternative or if you can change the flare, but you are likely to have to go custom like OGB. At least with standard fittings its easier to find something out in the wild that may do as well. And if you aren't in a hurry that might be someone on DHGate or Alibaba to keep the price down. And lets not forget EBAY.

 

[GreenHopper]

Well I've got one (apart from the broken Ash catcher which I'm hoping the vendor will replace). So I'm mostly hoping OGB can sort me out. I have one of his 14mm Flared mouthpieces he made me for my Orbiter and I love it. The flare is the perfect size.

 

[snackmaster]

@GreenHopper, not sure if it would affect stability, but this style mouthpiece would give you a better view of the can.

 

[GreenHopper]

@GreenHopper, not sure if it would affect stability, but this style mouthpiece would give you a better view of the can.

Haha, that's exactly what I've asked OGM to sort me out with. I've asked him to make it roughly half that length though.

 

[Summer]

Yeh that's exactly it.

My main issue is the Flared Mouthpiece is too large.

It's also hard to watch the chamber filling with vapor when using, a minor issue.

I love being able to take out the perc's to clean and swap for different diffusion options.

How large is the overall flare & just the internal hole diameter? Thanks!

 

[GreenHopper]

How large is the overall flare & just the internal hole diameter? Thanks!

This 18mm Flared MP comes in at 4.4cm (1.73") for the OD and 2cm (0.78") for the ID.

Where as @Oregonglassblower's 14mm Flared MP comes in at 1.4cm (0.55) OD and 0.8cm (0.31") ID.

I much prefer the smaller flare even though the narrower ID will add a little draw restriction.

 

[cybrguy]

Just FYI you can ask OGB to use a wider gauge tube for your MP. I was concerned that his narrower glass might add restriction, and as it was for my UFO, that was exactly what I didn't want. No problem.

 

[GreenHopper]

Just FYI you can ask OGB to use a wider gauge tube for your MP. I was concerned that his narrower glass might add restriction, and as it was for my UFO, that was exactly what I didn't want. No problem.

Thanks for the tip bud, when he responds I'll have a chat with him and see what he has to offer. Might be able to have my cake and eat it

 

[ataxian]

This 18mm Flared MP comes in at 4.4cm (1.73") for the OD and 2cm (0.78") for the ID.

Where as @Oregonglassblower's 14mm Flared MP comes in at 1.4cm (0.55) OD and 0.8cm (0.31") ID.

I much prefer the smaller flare even though the narrower ID will add a little draw restriction.

SMALL MOUTHPIECES are my PREFERENCE.
OGB (MIKE) get's it!

 

[GreenHopper]

SMALL MOUTHPIECES are my PREFERENCE.
OGB (MIKE) get's it!

@Oregonglassblower = CIVILIZED

Small mouthpieces = CIVILIZED

 

[Summer]

@Oregonglassblower = CIVILIZED

Small mouthpieces = CIVILIZED

 

[Stevenski]

Back in the day we used to make bongs, I've smoked out of a heap different styles of bottles and other random objects.
The bong defines the hit, so you owe it to yourself to use one that is perfect.

Jesus when I think about some of the pieces I made over the years . We used to always get our garden hose "trimmed" by local youth. I ended up cutting a bunch of 4" lengths & leaving them in a little bucket next to the hose with a sign asking if they could take the precut lengths. Some smartarse cut the hose in the middle one day. What a cunt. It is a sad day when you have to lock up your hose of an evening.

That's a sweet piece of glass right there and a looker also. I'm not saying you can't get some quality glass on the gate , i just feel safer with the U.S. stuff & while you can get some really thick glass it is most likely not Boro and the actual colors they use are not disclosed.

I was talking more about a clear piece I paid $90 for but maybe I hit paydirt with that one or just paid a fair price for the 1% of gate glass I suppose . The piece I posted is US glass but was a very good price so worthy of this thread.

 

[ataxian]

Jesus maybe I hit paydirt with that one or just paid a fair price for the 1% of gate glass I suppose . The piece I posted is US glass but was a very good price so worthy of this thread.

Look brother from another Mother!
Cheap Glass is CIVILIZED!
Just my opinion!

Put your EGO in your pocket!

We will all die one day.

Tooth Fairy's and many other make believe characters are made up!

CANNABIS is the HOLY GRAIL not word's of a make believe book?

I buy cheap glass because it break's the same as expensive glass>

My EGO I try to kill so I do understand the need to feed it?
Let it die so we can live?

CHEAP GLASS is our FRIEND!!!!

 

[MoltenTiger]

Look brother from another Mother!
Cheap Glass is CIVILIZED!
Just my opinion!

Put your EGO in your pocket!

We will all die one day.

Tooth Fairy's and many other make believe characters are made up!

CANNABIS is the HOLY GRAIL not word's of a make believe book?

I buy cheap glass because it break's the same as expensive glass>

My EGO I try to kill so I do understand the need to feed it?
Let it die so we can live?

CHEAP GLASS is our FRIEND!!!!

Cheap glass is great, but in my experience it commonly has weak spots and is easier to break with only minor shock.
Obviously all glass is fragile, but not necessarily prone to failure.
Now with progression of market, there's a huge array of cheap, quality glass. And China's options have evolved a lot in the last 10 years.
Origin doesn't matter beyond quality.
In terms of value - cost and satisfaction, Stevenski's Maddabler rig is exceptional value.
I don't think it's about superiority more than its about pure satisfaction.
Cannabis is paramount of importance with all this technology and innovation surrounding it, but like fine china, crystal or any object, insightful design allows it to be enjoyed to a maximum.

It's a personal thing, not necessarily about appearance but about smoothness and appreciation.

Compared to smoking out of a garden hose and Powerade bottle, vaporising from a well designed glass rig is a very different experience, and without telling anyone about it who would endeavour to realise.

I don't think it's about the ego, as Australians ours is heavily deflated due to the nature of paraphernalia and freedom of use here anyway.
It's really just about enjoying the experience, and hoping that someone else out there could resonate enough with it to share in it.

There's plenty of cheap glass that offers this potential, a thousand pages of examples.
There's no wrong option, but with only finite time and opportunities, if you're here reading about glass then I recommend buying some to enjoy for oneself.
My comments, however long-winded, are really just to say, rather than settle for a utilitarian solution, enthusiasts will enjoy the small difference to a more personal solution. It's not to be better than others, but to enjoy what we are a little bit more. Cannabis brings many enjoyment, why shouldn't it be served on a silver platter? It's not that outlandish, but sure spend little enough to not get attached to it. Breaking glass is a reality, but without any sentimental value attached it's easy to replace. Obviously live within your means, but nowadays that means cheap, quality for all.

When I'm gone there'll still be use for my glassware, borosilicate isn't recyclable, so the DHgate machine isn't good for the ego either.

 

[cybrguy]

All true. Given different financial conditions, while I can't imagine myself ever getting a $3K Mothership piece, I would certainly own some nice 3 digit glass. I just don't lust for it, and function is all that matters in my price range. So, highly recommended DHgate glass is my playground and I have more $$ for product.
The glass is useless with no product as I'm sure we all can agree. Tho some of the heady stuff certainly is ART as well so useless may be too strong of a word...

 

[ataxian]

Cheap glass is great, but in my experience it commonly has weak spots and is easier to break with only minor shock.
Obviously all glass is fragile, but not necessarily prone to failure.
Now with progression of market, there's a huge array of cheap, quality glass. And China's options have evolved a lot in the last 10 years.
Origin doesn't matter beyond quality.
In terms of value - cost and satisfaction, Stevenski's Maddabler rig is exceptional value.
I don't think it's about superiority more than its about pure satisfaction.
Cannabis is paramount of importance with all this technology and innovation surrounding it, but like fine china, crystal or any object, insightful design allows it to be enjoyed to a maximum.

It's a personal thing, not necessarily about appearance but about smoothness and appreciation.

Compared to smoking out of a garden hose and Powerade bottle, vaporising from a well designed glass rig is a very different experience, and without telling anyone about it who would endeavour to realise.

I don't think it's about the ego, as Australians ours is heavily deflated due to the nature of paraphernalia and freedom of use here anyway.
It's really just about enjoying the experience, and hoping that someone else out there could resonate enough with it to share in it.

There's plenty of cheap glass that offers this potential, a thousand pages of examples.
There's no wrong option, but with only finite time and opportunities, if you're here reading about glass then I recommend buying some to enjoy for oneself.
My comments, however long-winded, are really just to say, rather than settle for a utilitarian solution, enthusiasts will enjoy the small difference to a more personal solution. It's not to be better than others, but to enjoy what we are a little bit more. Cannabis brings many enjoyment, why shouldn't it be served on a silver platter? It's not that outlandish, but sure spend little enough to not get attached to it. Breaking glass is a reality, but without any sentimental value attached it's easy to replace. Obviously live within your means, but nowadays that means cheap, quality for all.

When I'm gone there'll still be use for my glassware, borosilicate isn't recyclable, so the DHgate machine isn't good for the ego either.

Tall poppy syndrome : is an expression from my friends from down under!

As a CALIFORNIA guy the AUSTRALIAN's would drink us under the table.
Smoking CANNABIS is what we did instead.

Sorry to give a slap. I'm really not a BULLY!

I have family in AUSTRALIA so I get it.
My kid's have surfed every spot in Australia: {EAST; WEST; SOUTH}

We had two factories we sold there as well.

I only smoked JOINTS the first 10 years.
BonG's where gross to me and UNCIVILIZED.
They were made out of BAMBOO before glass.

Glass is new to me so forgive my ignorance?

CANNABIS is the HOLY GRAIL anyway.

 

[abcd5432]

All true. Given different financial conditions, while I can't imagine myself ever getting a $3K Mothership piece, I would certainly own some nice 3 digit glass. I just don't lust for it, and function is all that matters in my price range. So, highly recommended DHgate glass is my playground and I have more $$ for product.
The glass is useless with no product as I'm sure we all can agree. Tho some of the heady stuff certainly is ART as well so useless may be too strong of a word...

When your money can make you more money, why spend it...
I'm happy to live as frugally as possible and let my money work for me. China glass saved me a lot of money, I'll splurge on some nicer china glass, but I LOVE saving money. That's why I like vaping so much!

 

[MrMonss]

Yeh that's exactly it.

My main issue is the Flared Mouthpiece is too large.

It's also hard to watch the chamber filling with vapor when using, a minor issue.

I love being able to take out the perc's to clean and swap for different diffusion options.

Hi Guys !!

Glad to see FC Mod's return.
We all have the same problem with mouthpiece too big !!
I made myself a DIY CIVILIZED one, and that works.
I also like to use a whip with this bubbler, this way you can watch the chambers.

(sorry for the bad pic)