I am one person that will buy high end glass, Chinese glass and stuff in between like Grav labs. I just don't think the Bates clear pieces are any better than the Grav labs clear from what Baron says. BUT Those sick mason jar colabs are rare as shit and really unique, those are a bit different. He is comparing the same 2 rigs that look almost identical but have a different label because 1 was Pre-sellout and 1 was Post-sellout! lol. The only difference in the 2 is that the label has "Grav labs" added to it now pretty much. But selling out isn't all bad, It is an art form for some people and a business for others. and if you are lucky it can be both lol. I agree that no one will be buying those old stock clear Bates x Worm glass pieces for $500 though when they can get the exact rig for $150 anywhere now.
It sits level. The Liger can be set at any angle. Working very well and it isn't tippy without the drop. I would rather use a drop down just for easy collection of my reclaim for edibles but in this rig I will just leave it off. There isn't much heat transfer with the Liger so reclaim was the only reason to use it. Yeah, with the angle of this neck the Liger would be the only nail to actually sit level unless you picked it up because it's definitely not a 90 degree joint but it's not a 45 either. I guess it's a 67.5 degree joint lol So I have the liger locked in at a 67.5 degree angle and it's working great! I wish my little glass valve ball was black like
@Baron23 internal pump though!
I have black ball envy