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[toolbox12]

Anyone know of any online shops that sell stevenlmz's wares and ship from the US?

Thinking I'll order the fc-mod once they release the diffusion perk. Wish it were larger though, looks a little unstable with the vxl in position.

 

[GetLeft]

I hope this isn't the beginning of syndrome. But now that I actually have a wt, I can pick up a little better idea of what's going on inside, and how the piece I picked up yesterday doesn't make much sense to me. Why is the diffuser set apart from the water chamber? I guess the theory is water condition first then diffuse second? It seems to makes more sense to do both in the same process like the D020 models. With this piece, if the bottom chamber isn't filled all the way, the water level drops when being hit on, which allows some vapor to shoot to the diffuser chamber without hitting the water first. I got a couple of really nice hits milking the top chamber when the water chamber was not filled to the top. When I saw that perhaps some vapor was escaping the water path, I filled it up a little more. Then my next hit was a little more sluggish and less productive. But that was my fourth hit and that's way beyond my normal capacity. I'll try again in a little while, a little fresher than I was last night.

Any explanation as to why the two conditioning techniques (water coditioning, diffuising) are separated out with this piece? Feel free to point me to some posts if this horse has been beaten, as I'm guessing it has.

 

[snackmaster]

I hope this isn't the beginning of syndrome. But now that I actually have a wt, I can pick up a little better idea of what's going on inside, and how the piece I picked up yesterday doesn't make much sense to me. Why is the diffuser set apart from the water chamber? I guess the theory is water condition first then diffuse second? It seems to makes more sense to do both in the same process like the D020 models. With this piece, if the bottom chamber isn't filled all the way, the water level drops when being hit on, which allows some vapor to shoot to the diffuser chamber without hitting the water first. I got a couple of really nice hits milking the top chamber when the water chamber was not filled to the top. When I saw that perhaps some vapor was escaping the water path, I filled it up a little more. Then my next hit was a little more sluggish and less productive. But that was my fourth hit and that's way beyond my normal capacity. I'll try again in a little while, a little fresher than I was last night.

Any explanation as to why the two conditioning techniques (water coditioning, diffuising) are separated out with this piece? Feel free to point me to some posts if this horse has been beaten, as I'm guessing it has.

If the piece you've got is the same as the one here, then I think it's just a poor design. Some of these Chinese pieces don't have too much thought behind them.

 

[ataxian]

I hope this isn't the beginning of syndrome. But now that I actually have a wt, I can pick up a little better idea of what's going on inside, and how the piece I picked up yesterday doesn't make much sense to me. Why is the diffuser set apart from the water chamber? I guess the theory is water condition first then diffuse second? It seems to makes more sense to do both in the same process like the D020 models. With this piece, if the bottom chamber isn't filled all the way, the water level drops when being hit on, which allows some vapor to shoot to the diffuser chamber without hitting the water first. I got a couple of really nice hits milking the top chamber when the water chamber was not filled to the top. When I saw that perhaps some vapor was escaping the water path, I filled it up a little more. Then my next hit was a little more sluggish and less productive. But that was my fourth hit and that's way beyond my normal capacity. I'll try again in a little while, a little fresher than I was last night.

Any explanation as to why the two conditioning techniques (water conditioning, diffuising) are separated out with this piece? Feel free to point me to some posts if this horse has been beaten, as I'm guessing it has.

I wasn't going to respond but I think the PNWT and knock offs are lame!

There are many lame ideals like religion their man made.

I like the D style bubblers because their the perfect size for vaporizing!

This is only my option and not empirically verified!

 

[LBsEveryday]

So this morning I had some breakfast looked around dhgate and got instant GAS.

Some links I've found:

http://dhgate.com/product/2015-new-arrival-clear-nectar-collector-glass/254772709.html#s2-10-1
UFO

http://dhgate.com/product/two-function-honeycomb-double-turbine-ash/254636050.html#s2-7-1
Cactus stereo

http://dhgate.com/product/best-quality-water-pipes-clear-mini-bubbler/254768580.html#s1-27-1

Matrix ion

http://dhgate.com/product/2015-new-bong-easy-to-clean-can-take-out/247500233.html#s1-7-1

PURR x C&C collab 10mm?

Unfortunately I had more links but my computer updated as I walked away..

 

[alittledabwilldoya']

So this morning I had some breakfast looked around dhgate and got instant GAS.

Some links I've found:

http://dhgate.com/product/2015-new-arrival-clear-nectar-collector-glass/254772709.html#s2-10-1
UFO

Am I high ... or that thing backasswards?

 

[The Undecided]

Am I high ... or that thing backasswards?

It is backwards,I was confused too but they do have a picture with it the right way in the album.

 

[jl420]

I've found this model on dhgate a 'Typhoon spiral coil recycler' and it looks cool but does anyone have any experience with it ? It sells for $39.61 and seems to have a bent neck instead of straight neck which I've seen on a similar version.

Ihttp://www.dhgate.com/store/product/new-fashion-water-glass-pipe-glass-bong-the/249927481.html

 

[justcametomind]

That pic it's the only time you'll see it clean IMHO. Just that is a no, for me.
Does that swirl add anything? Probably not. Some vapor goes there, some doesn't.

 

[alittledabwilldoya']

^^^ I think the vapor will go straight up, the swirl is the down pipe of the recycler?

 

[GetLeft]

I wasn't going to respond but I think the PNWT and knock offs are lame!

This is a pnwt kncock off?
(I'm new at WTs. Hit a small load light at 6.5 on the e-nano for this.)

Notice no water in the upper chamber before I started, then ended up with a nice puddle in there. This affects the technique needed on subsequent hits.

 

[gigaurora]

Look, like I said, from a consumer's point of view, I understand what you guys are doing. If I could get something reasonably similar for cheaper, I would do the same. I'm only biased here because I have a lot personally invested in this and something like this sets a precedence for anyone else that wants to do the same thing. We are required to send a cease and desist letter to anyone we know that violates our patent because if we don't, we lose our patent. Unfortunately, this just runs up legal fees for basically what results in a net zero scenario and unfortunately, the only people who profit are the attorneys.

I guess that's the cost of doing business but what we will do is work hard to bring down the price of Hydratubes. Perhaps people are ready for Chinese made Hydratubes and we will ditch our American only philosophy. We will collect more data before making a decision as that is something that we have been very proud of but we don't make our money on the EVO, we make it on the glass and if counterfeit glass takes that market away from us, then this company will require another business model to evolve with this new situation. I would have much rather this be because a worthy adversary created a product that delivered the same experience of the EVO at a cheaper price but if the end result are cheaper Hydratubes of comparable quality, then everyone wins.

I have to weigh my two cents in here. Long time eve fan. always rep it as the best vape to everyone. customer service is amazing. getting all the disclaimer fan shit out of the way. but i have to separate you as a vape company and a glass company.

As a vape, the quality of the product is the reason this could never happen other then the next innovation in technology. can't create products of this caliber with the quality controls when dealing with a technical product.

but as a glass company I have issue, with even the basis of the hydrate patent. I understand the novelty aspect you'd hit, and the useful aspect, but non-obvious? The concept of glass with the female open on the bottom isn't exactly unthinkable. I usually lean towards the side of protection of inventor over societal progression of technology on the patent issue, but this one is a little limiting. Maybe a specific combination of perc/shape in your hydratube, but i would definitely argue against the issuing of the patent itself depending on how broad it gets. either way, good luck dealing with jurisdiction issues dealing with patent in china. I really hope your business model isn't so glass focused that if this becomes damaging to your development of vape technology.

 

[LittleM17]

ive had the CCG Egg and fc-710, i liked both but wanna try something new, What else do you guys think is good for oil

 

[Cannabis Connoisseur]

This is a pnwt kncock off?
(I'm new at WTs. Hit a small load light at 6.5 on the e-nano for this.)

Notice no water in the upper chamber before I started, then ended up with a nice puddle in there. This affects the technique needed on subsequent hits.

That's not a very good design. Empty all the water out of the bottom chamber. Fill it as high as you can in the top chamber, without getting a drink of water. Pull softly as well, so you can raise the water level a tad. Overall that is just a bad design the perc is too close
to the mouthpiece. Try what i suggested, and should work better! Water should be in the upper chamber not the bottom. Fill it about halfway and remember test to make sure you don't drink

 

[subway13029]

Got my fc mod today and i really like it but to me it has a flaw and it might just be on mine..the matrix perc sits on the bottom of the can and when a vape is inserted it will tilt the downstem one way or another..ita almost to long for the can and the ashcatcher..and it gets tilted and was hitting it and the ash catcher filled up nice but it was as if the way the matrix was tilted the vapor would almost shoot straight up the mp in bursts?it looked really weird in the mirror..its as if the vapor never went through the water in the can??but when i straightened the diwnstem then both filled up nicely with vapor and it seemed to work..

 

[Bongologist]

Got my fc mod today and i really like it but to me it has a flaw and it might just be on mine..the matrix perc sits on the bottom of the can and when a vape is inserted it will tilt the downstem one way or another..ita almost to long for the can and the ashcatcher..and it gets tilted and was hitting it and the ash catcher filled up nice but it was as if the way the matrix was tilted the vapor would almost shoot straight up the mp in bursts?it looked really weird in the mirror..its as if the vapor never went through the water in the can??but when i straightened the diwnstem then both filled up nicely with vapor and it seemed to work..

I was just about to order that, can you tell me more and does anyone else have this problem? Am I correct in thinking the perc should not touch the bottom at all? Did you get the shower head also and does it have the same problem? Besides this problem how does everything else look and fit together and how is the stability?

 

[subway13029]

I dont think its supposed to touch bottom of can..it is a stable piece though..it just seems as though the downstem isnt stable..

 

[toolbox12]

Anyone else have credit info stolen and used recently after a Dhgate purchase?

Not sure if they have anything to do with it but just had to cancel my cc after a few k fraudulent charge a day after my purchase. Prepay cards for DH purchases from here on out. Hearing similar stories from a couple others but could be coincidence...

 

[LongIslandmom]

Hi guys still need help

Well I have a $20 coupon from dhgate because the water tool I ordered never got to me. I bought it from sunshine store who is usually so reliable but this time it just did not work.

So here I am again asking all you great members what is good for a mom who wants this small but needs some diffusion. I know some of you may be rolling your eyes thinking "LIMOM didn't we just go thru this with you?" And that answer would be - yes we already went over this. But I can't remember what was recommended and it looks like there are even more to chose from.

And how do you find a particular seller on the site?

Still confused in Long Islanf

 

[cumulus]

I thought I would interject here. So you guys are correct, if they rip us off on our design, most likely we have very little recourse since they are in China. We don't have the resources or money to deal with it. What it does do to us is that it stifles innovation and hurts companies like ours that are actually doing something different and trying to do everything in the US. As the consumer, you probably don't give a shit and just want the most cost effective thing, I get it, but I don't operate that way. In the end, you guys are free to do whatever you want, just know in the end that it hurts small companies like mine.

I will say that this differs from the other knockoffs in that there is absolutely no other use for a Hydratube than to sit on top of an EVO. That's what it was designed for and what was patented. It was a new enough design that was different enough from the previous art for it to be granted to us. We can split hairs and semantics all we want but there would be no Hydratube design to copy if there were no EVO so it is very specifically proprietary to us.

Nah, the SSFG Hydratube sits just fine atop my Mighty w/ MuzzMod. I just don't think it's a good idea because water can leak into the device. That's why I use a Matrix Ion instead.

From a philosophical perspective I'm not really down with patents where prior art exists (or innovation is minimal) and little resources are expended in development. Honestly, glass is primarily a commodity. The world continues to shrink and the global economy is just beginning to flex its muscles. Perhaps trite, but those that fight it will be left behind.

I loved my OG Cloud back in the day but prefer the precise heating control of the new Mighty. Also, the latter is much more portable and hits like a dream.

Thoughts on Differentiation
Precise, digital heating controls. User replaceable batteries and upgradeable firmware. Mobile integration w/ software that automatically sets the temperature to the herb you're vaping. Fuzzy logic sensors can determine when heat should be stepped up or the user can set their own routines. Extending this, the VXL community could share their own routines and vote on faves.

Imagine if separate chambers stored herb and AVB. When the herb is cashed, the vaporizer could empty the heating chamber into the AVB chamber and automatically refill the heating chamber w/ fresh herb.

These and other means to differentiate your core product are out there. VXL is pretty savvy and I'm cheering SM and the team on take VXL ever higher!

 

[Delta3DStudios]

Anyone else have credit info stolen and used recently after a Dhgate purchase?

Not sure if they have anything to do with it but just had to cancel my cc after a few k fraudulent charge a day after my purchase. Prepay cards for DH purchases from here on out. Hearing similar stories from a couple others but could be coincidence...

This has been reported in the past by other users. I don't know if it's DHgate or someone intercepting the charge. But most people like to either use a prepaid visa card, or I like to use Skrill.com to make payments on Dhgate.

Previously I had used my CC to pay for several items on DHgate without any issue, but after having some problems getting a payment to go through the 5th time around, I decided to switch to a Skrill.com account, which has been working great ever since.

 

[Frederick McGuire]

Just realized I never paid for my FC-MOD
So I've paid for it now, should have it in a couple of days

I got a spare showerhead, I'm thinking I'll mostly use it with dual showerheads.

I've never had an issue with my CC on dhgate, but I get an SMS with a code to approve every purchase through DHGate, so I guess that's keeping me safe...

 

[subway13029]

Sent jane an email about the matrix sitting on the bottom of the can and altering the function totally..she said to send picture..i mean looking at mine and their pic on site..mine is slanted because it catches on bottom of can..its so weird when hitting it..u can see the vapor almost going straight into mp from the ash catcher..and that could be design flaw but when i get the downstem posiyioned correctly then it greatly improves function..

 

[Delta3DStudios]

Sent jane an email about the matrix sitting on the bottom of the can and altering the function totally..she said to send picture..i mean looking at mine and their pic on site..mine is slanted because it catches on bottom of can..its so weird when hitting it..u can see the vapor almost going straight into mp from the ash catcher..and that could be design flaw but when i get the downstem posiyioned correctly then it greatly improves function..

Classic Steven QC, perfect as usual

Much as I want the FC-Mod, I'm going to wait until another vendor like CleanClearGlass or Sunshinestore releases a similar version, or hell maybe I'll just save up and buy the OG Devistator . I'm done with their games, too many poor quality pieces compared to any other vendor I've dealt with.

I wish we could start a running tally of how many pieces we've ordered from the big-name vendors, and how many actually arrived in satisfactory condition.

 

[Bongologist]

@Ratchett im holding off on the FC-mod because of this too. I really want that thing though damnit.

Can someone tell me the difference between the D020 and the D020--D?