Cheap High Quality Bubbler
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BoogerMan
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I lowered the water level of my vertigo and the drag is a lot less but now it barely recycles, like in @NickDlow's video. I like it better now though. I think I will give it a thorough test tonight, but I might be keeping it for a while. It's different which is nice 
@blankrider, I really think if the pillars were bigger and the vortex chamber was better designed (like removing that huge indent in the top of the vortex chamber and connecting the uptake tube to the side to help with vortex), it would be an awesome piece.
Anyways, on a brighter note, I also got the 18mm version of the Klein Incycler from Kathy. This design is slightly different than the 14mm version. The main difference is the Showerhead. The 14mm has maybe 6-8 slits, the 18mm has well over 20.
At first I was worried because the Showerhead on the 18mm is level with the return tube. But no issues at all. At the very beginning of the pull you can see a couple bubbles try to go up the return tube but they just get pushed back down!
No vortex but this thing rips and is fairly dragless
@blankrider, I really think if the pillars were bigger and the vortex chamber was better designed (like removing that huge indent in the top of the vortex chamber and connecting the uptake tube to the side to help with vortex), it would be an awesome piece.
Anyways, on a brighter note, I also got the 18mm version of the Klein Incycler from Kathy. This design is slightly different than the 14mm version. The main difference is the Showerhead. The 14mm has maybe 6-8 slits, the 18mm has well over 20.
At first I was worried because the Showerhead on the 18mm is level with the return tube. But no issues at all. At the very beginning of the pull you can see a couple bubbles try to go up the return tube but they just get pushed back down!
No vortex but this thing rips and is fairly dragless
Frederick McGuire
Aggressively Loungey
D-cycler just landed.
First impression after a quick water test is that it's surprisingly draggy.
Not bad, but definitely worse than my pillar cycler...
The holes/slits are tiny - thin cuts at the corner of the perc - giving tiny holes.
I normally like the thin cuts as it tends to give smaller bubbles, but there needs to be enough of em to ensure there isn't drag...
@blankrider
IMO the pillar cycler is a really nice little rig, it just needs a slight tweak to the return funnel to stop splash back with a harder draw.
Edit #3:
And the mouthpiece needs some slight tweaking too IMO.
I'm not the biggest fan of small closed mouthpieces, I'd rather see it opened up (the little ring collects water and makes it really hard to get the last few drops out), and it needs to come out another 1-2cm away from the inlet IMO.
I just fill my pillar cycler exactly like I do the mini pillar - fill up the chamber below the pillars, but no water in the dry chamber.
Edit:
Someone mentioned that the showerhead should be higher up - mine has maybe 5mm of space between the top of the showerhead and the bottom of the pillars.
I can't see much room for it to move, or if it would help all that much...
(Only thing I could think of for scale
- the gap is approx 1/2 of the height of a small oil slick ball lid )
I'd rather use the pillar cycler than the mini pillar
Another edit:
After the first dab, the d-cycler definitely was less noticeably draggy during the hit vs a water test.
Feels like an effort to get the water going, but then it smooths out a bit once everything is recycling.
First impression after a quick water test is that it's surprisingly draggy.
Not bad, but definitely worse than my pillar cycler...
The holes/slits are tiny - thin cuts at the corner of the perc - giving tiny holes.
I normally like the thin cuts as it tends to give smaller bubbles, but there needs to be enough of em to ensure there isn't drag...
@blankrider
IMO the pillar cycler is a really nice little rig, it just needs a slight tweak to the return funnel to stop splash back with a harder draw.
Edit #3:
And the mouthpiece needs some slight tweaking too IMO.
I'm not the biggest fan of small closed mouthpieces, I'd rather see it opened up (the little ring collects water and makes it really hard to get the last few drops out), and it needs to come out another 1-2cm away from the inlet IMO.
I just fill my pillar cycler exactly like I do the mini pillar - fill up the chamber below the pillars, but no water in the dry chamber.
Edit:
Someone mentioned that the showerhead should be higher up - mine has maybe 5mm of space between the top of the showerhead and the bottom of the pillars.
I can't see much room for it to move, or if it would help all that much...
(Only thing I could think of for scale
- the gap is approx 1/2 of the height of a small oil slick ball lid )I'd rather use the pillar cycler than the mini pillar
Another edit:
After the first dab, the d-cycler definitely was less noticeably draggy during the hit vs a water test.
Feels like an effort to get the water going, but then it smooths out a bit once everything is recycling.
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flotntoke
thoroughly vaped
D-cycler just landed.
First impression after a quick water test is that it's surprisingly draggy.
Not bad, but definitely worse than my pillar cycler...
The holes/slits are tiny - thin cuts at the corner of the perc - giving tiny holes.
I normally like the thin cuts as it tends to give smaller bubbles, but there needs to be enough of em to ensure there isn't drag...
@blankrider
IMO the pillar cycler is a really nice little rig, it just needs a slight tweak to the return funnel to stop splash back with a harder draw.
Edit #3:
And the mouthpiece needs some slight tweaking too IMO.
I'm not the biggest fan of small closed mouthpieces, I'd rather see it opened up (the little ring collects water and makes it really hard to get the last few drops out), and it needs to come out another 1-2cm away from the inlet IMO.
I just fill my pillar cycler exactly like I do the mini pillar - fill up the chamber below the pillars, but no water in the dry chamber.
Edit:
Someone mentioned that the showerhead should be higher up - mine has maybe 5mm of space between the top of the showerhead and the bottom of the pillars.
I can't see much room for it to move, or if it would help all that much...
(Only thing I could think of for scale
I'd rather use the pillar cycler than the mini pillar
Another edit:
After the first dab, the d-cycler definitely was less noticeably draggy during the hit vs a water test.
Feels like an effort to get the water going, but then it smooths out a bit once everything is recycling.
Have found the same as far as initial drag with D-cylcer and assumed this is just the nature of any recycler.
Is this not the case? This is my first of any type of recycler. I've stayed away from them because they look to me as though they would knock flavor down quite a bit. I think this one does a little compared to some of my other pieces, but not nearly as much as I thought it would. And, must admit it is fun to use! I've had a few showdowns with it and other pieces, but so far have ended up putting the others away. Have only had it for a week though, and we all know how fun it is to play with the new toy in the house! Still wondering how it will settle into the regular routine.
EDIT: Should have mentioned, I do LOVE this for dabs! It is definitely a top contender there. Comments above more for vapor.
mutten840
Well-Known Member
Got 2 pieces today and am loving both.
One was a frit disk bubbler with a cyclone disk from vaporizer china.
This is about 9 inches tall and has a very smooth hit to it. I feel it is on par if not better than my David goldstein frit disk piece I also have.
The second piece is the 8.7 inch vortex recycler from CCG.
This bad boy is small, but packs some serious flavor in the tokes. I am loving both pieces and do not have a single complaint I could give about either piece. The joints are all very smooth and well made. The glass is not super thick, but also not super thin.The bases are very thick and well proportioned for the size of each piece. I would say both pieces are very well made and work extremely well
One was a frit disk bubbler with a cyclone disk from vaporizer china.
This is about 9 inches tall and has a very smooth hit to it. I feel it is on par if not better than my David goldstein frit disk piece I also have.
The second piece is the 8.7 inch vortex recycler from CCG.
This bad boy is small, but packs some serious flavor in the tokes. I am loving both pieces and do not have a single complaint I could give about either piece. The joints are all very smooth and well made. The glass is not super thick, but also not super thin.The bases are very thick and well proportioned for the size of each piece. I would say both pieces are very well made and work extremely well
flotntoke
thoroughly vaped
They sure look it! Then again... imitation is the sincerest form or flattery - especially in this thread!
I wouldn't be surprised at all to learn that all of them are blown in the exact same room, nor would I be surprised if Chinese shops are coping each other. The GB 187 has been a great seller, and you know all the vendors on DHGate keep track of such things a lot more than we do - which is saying something. I'd also bet they can shift production quickly for anything that is turning over and turning a profit. Just make less of whatever else, and crank out more of these.
I wouldn't be surprised at all to learn that all of them are blown in the exact same room, nor would I be surprised if Chinese shops are coping each other. The GB 187 has been a great seller, and you know all the vendors on DHGate keep track of such things a lot more than we do - which is saying something. I'd also bet they can shift production quickly for anything that is turning over and turning a profit. Just make less of whatever else, and crank out more of these.
BoogerMan
Well-Known Member
Its crazy how your d-cycler has more drag than the pillar recycler.D-cycler just landed.
First impression after a quick water test is that it's surprisingly draggy.
Not bad, but definitely worse than my pillar cycler...
The holes/slits are tiny - thin cuts at the corner of the perc - giving tiny holes.
I normally like the thin cuts as it tends to give smaller bubbles, but there needs to be enough of em to ensure there isn't drag...
@blankrider
IMO the pillar cycler is a really nice little rig, it just needs a slight tweak to the return funnel to stop splash back with a harder draw.
Edit #3:
And the mouthpiece needs some slight tweaking too IMO.
I'm not the biggest fan of small closed mouthpieces, I'd rather see it opened up (the little ring collects water and makes it really hard to get the last few drops out), and it needs to come out another 1-2cm away from the inlet IMO.
I just fill my pillar cycler exactly like I do the mini pillar - fill up the chamber below the pillars, but no water in the dry chamber.
Edit:
Someone mentioned that the showerhead should be higher up - mine has maybe 5mm of space between the top of the showerhead and the bottom of the pillars.
I can't see much room for it to move, or if it would help all that much...
(Only thing I could think of for scale
I'd rather use the pillar cycler than the mini pillar
Another edit:
After the first dab, the d-cycler definitely was less noticeably draggy during the hit vs a water test.
Feels like an effort to get the water going, but then it smooths out a bit once everything is recycling.
I just did dry pulls from both pieces and my pillar recycler has more drag for sure.
Just shows you how inconsistent these China pieces can be
@NickDlow your "one" I posted a vid of just a couple posts up lol
I like it and it functions nicely. No vortex but not a big deal to me.
The Showerhead on the 18mm one I just got, your "one" has 15 slits. The Showerhead is lower on this one compared to the 14mm, your "two". The 14mm joint one, your "two" looks like it has maybe 6 or so slits on the Showerhead but the Showerhead is higher up.
I got the 18mm one because I'm tired of the 14mm joints and the neck and mp is kind of bong style which is different. I have so many flares mouthpiece 14mm rigs lol. I needed some variety!
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I didnt know they were adding turbo chargers to glass these days
NickDlow
Log Hog
Thanks @BoogerMan I even watched it too lol. I just couldn't tell my bad.
I really like this one but idk about that straight neck.
http://m.dhgate.com/product/grav-gold-large-klein-recycler-with-inverted/234242838.html
I really like this one but idk about that straight neck.
http://m.dhgate.com/product/grav-gold-large-klein-recycler-with-inverted/234242838.html
BoogerMan
Well-Known Member
Straight necks don't get used at my place much anymore, but here is a function vid.
Scroll to 1 minute to watch water test.
The inverted Showerhead gives it a large initial chug and then it smooths out. It's gonna take a big pull to get it going
And no joint support
Aaron
Well-Known Member
Don't care for the colors but I'm sure there's some interest. Hopefully they make a 9" clear egg soon.
9" Colored Fab Eggs from CCG
9" Colored Fab Eggs from CCG
I like that amber color, but don't like any of the pieces ive seen with it.Don't care for the colors but I'm sure there's some interest. Hopefully they make a 9" clear egg soon.
9" Colored Fab Eggs from CCG
blankrider
Well-Known Member
Steven just got that amber color and made a mini with it. He wanted me to let you all know that it is now available for sale
http://m.dhgate.com/product/2015-new-height-11cm-glass-bongs-glass-mini/235535820.html#pd-019
I asked what other colors he could get so perhaps we could get some cool new colors that don't scream China glass
http://m.dhgate.com/product/2015-new-height-11cm-glass-bongs-glass-mini/235535820.html#pd-019
I asked what other colors he could get so perhaps we could get some cool new colors that don't scream China glass
tepictoton
Well-Known Member
Honestly,
his prices have been going up and up and...well...up
I don't know anymore if I would prefer spending close to 100dollar on these rigs...it is hit and miss sometimes, and yeah, when they were 30bucks each that still would not matter. But with these prices if one gets one that is kracked, perc offset or something something then you are stuck with it...I guess I feel more confident then ordering trough a known website, like for instance here in Europe Head and Nature, paying a bit more, sometimes even the same, but knowing someone has quality checked the piece before shipping it out to me.
Just saying, if these chiness vendors want to keep us interested, they have to be really careful with increasing their prices like has been going on for a while now...or get their quality control up a level or two...
his prices have been going up and up and...well...up
I don't know anymore if I would prefer spending close to 100dollar on these rigs...it is hit and miss sometimes, and yeah, when they were 30bucks each that still would not matter. But with these prices if one gets one that is kracked, perc offset or something something then you are stuck with it...I guess I feel more confident then ordering trough a known website, like for instance here in Europe Head and Nature, paying a bit more, sometimes even the same, but knowing someone has quality checked the piece before shipping it out to me.
Just saying, if these chiness vendors want to keep us interested, they have to be really careful with increasing their prices like has been going on for a while now...or get their quality control up a level or two...
howie105
Well-Known Member
We are victims of success as more people order new glass prices rise. I suspect the law of supply and demand is fairly universal on that count. On the upside with the price increases we are seeing better glass, faster service and access.
ChiefKeefe
Well-Known Member
In my honest opinion your being absurd. A normal american mothership mini is over a thousand dollars. With one swing and no cap I believe.
How could one complain about a 70$ setup with 2 swings and a cap?
His diffusion pump knockoff is fair, his fc mini pillar is fair, his mobius knockoffs yes both are fair priced.
Infact I just ordered like 6 pieces from him and would of paid like 3k american for them..
Onto another topic...
@blankrider I have indeed owned the recyelr pillar by vertigo. I got it when it was new on the market. I did however love it, but can agree the water level is picky. Its not meant to vortex hard just recycle a lot of water. The problem seems the funnel chamber where they poked the whole in from the top, they pushed it way farther down then vertigo glass does. This seems to cause the splash up? I ordered one anyways and will see for myself and get back to all of you...
On that note I have a fc ufo, fc-186, fc-mini pillar, fc mini, vertigo ccg knockoff, d cycler knockoff, and ccg fabegg all on the way.
Hopefully comparw the egg to the kathy, and will review all other pieces for you guys.
Edit: @Aaron theyre is a clear ccg fab egg, not sure if 9 inches tho
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What do you expect when someone posts something like: " I would pay $100 for An Egg from Steven". They are watching. For me $50 is the top. They aren't doing the innovation. Search for "glass bong" on DHGate then sort by "price highest to lowest". There are eggs there for well over $400. If they think we will pay, the prices will stay high.
BoogerMan
Well-Known Member
My new Klein incycler pairs awesome with the volcano 
and tell me it doesn't look like it cost me some real $$$$ thank you DHgate 
EDIT: damn damn damn! the klein has a tiny pinhole on the underside of the return tube. I can seal it with some silicon but I'm going to contact Kathy for a replacement because all the water leaks out in about an hour.
Woke up with some really sharp lower back pain, ground up some sweet kush (nice indica), filled a thick bag, no more back pain
The mouthpiece on this thing is really interesting too. Nothing like I've seen. It's rounded like the standard bong or bent neck, but it was flattened where you put your lips (with a lathe I'd assume) so it doesn't feel like the standard rounded mp. Tommy likey
and tell me it doesn't look like it cost me some real $$$$ thank you DHgate EDIT: damn damn damn! the klein has a tiny pinhole on the underside of the return tube. I can seal it with some silicon but I'm going to contact Kathy for a replacement because all the water leaks out in about an hour.
Woke up with some really sharp lower back pain, ground up some sweet kush (nice indica), filled a thick bag, no more back pain
The mouthpiece on this thing is really interesting too. Nothing like I've seen. It's rounded like the standard bong or bent neck, but it was flattened where you put your lips (with a lathe I'd assume) so it doesn't feel like the standard rounded mp. Tommy likey
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blankrider
Well-Known Member
@ChiefKeefe I am happy to hear that at least one person on here has hit the real thing. I personally have not but I have hit a real SG peyote pillar. I think it is important that at least one of us has used a design if we are going to get a copy of it. To make sure that it is made right and to get an accurate comparison, like how @Monsoon helped with the diffusion pump. It would not be near as good without him and we would be unable to verify how closely it functions to the real one.
I totally understand that the recycling chamber was not intended to vortex, just recycle the water. It is supposed to recycle similar to the SG recycler. I think that vortex is more of a fun visual thing more than it effects function so the lack of vortex doesn't really matter. It is just the finicky water levels and getting water in the mouth which seem to be the main faults of this design. I agree that if they had not made such a large indent in the recycle chamber it would not have as much issues
I totally understand that the recycling chamber was not intended to vortex, just recycle the water. It is supposed to recycle similar to the SG recycler. I think that vortex is more of a fun visual thing more than it effects function so the lack of vortex doesn't really matter. It is just the finicky water levels and getting water in the mouth which seem to be the main faults of this design. I agree that if they had not made such a large indent in the recycle chamber it would not have as much issues
Tweak
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Same here. It would take a really nice piece to push me over the $50 limit, the price killed all the interest I had for the Matrix pillar. I have more than enough glass right now, nothing I see is a "must have" anymore.
Rab
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http://www.dhgate.com/store/18490454
Crazy prices on bongs and oil rigs here. Ripped from bm
That looks like terribly good and unproductive fun. Those damn bubbles sound so relaxing you want to hear more when you are already completely spent. One more..
Crazy prices on bongs and oil rigs here. Ripped from bm
My new Klein incycler pairs awesome with the volcano
Woke up with some really sharp lower back pain, ground up some sweet kush (nice indica), filled a thick bag, no more back pain
The mouthpiece on this thing is really interesting too. Nothing like I've seen. It's rounded like the standard bong or bent neck, but it was flattened where you put your lips (with a lathe I'd assume) so it doesn't feel like the standard rounded mp. Tommy likey
That looks like terribly good and unproductive fun. Those damn bubbles sound so relaxing you want to hear more when you are already completely spent. One more..
blankrider
Well-Known Member
China has officially knocked off its first mothership elite!
Here is the real thing which I'm sure is valued at over 10k
Here is the real thing which I'm sure is valued at over 10k
wildything
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http://m.dhgate.com/product/2015glass-bong-best-recycler-with-glass-vapor/233884833.html#pd-019 Hey so just found this store woth only 33 transactions so kinda sketchy also the prices seem too good to b true. Does anyone know if it's possible for me to be ripped off by them sending me a broken item or not sending it at all? Just wanted to know if anyone knows hahaha but here's a link