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[blankrider]

@BoogerMan beat me to pointing out all the other pieces in that listing. The pillar looks OK but then there is this marvelous design

if I were you I would just wait for steven to release his. I am working with him designing things so they should have far better function than the ones made by other sellers

 

[Dramma Lamma]

Eh, I am kinda stuck in recycler mode for now anyways and not much else really tickling the fancy so to say.

Hence suggesting the pillar recycler.

 

[NickDlow]

A pillar recycler would be dope. I cast my vote on that @blankrider lol

 

[blankrider]

Pillar recycler is kind of defeatist. The entire point of the pillar section is that the bubbles will always take the path of least resistance. The air does not go up all the tubes at once but kind of randomly switches and the water drops back down through other ones. Therefore it is internally recycling.

If you add on a vortex chamber and return then there is no point of making a pillar in the first place.

Just my

Function video

 

[NickDlow]

Thanks for the info. I just thought it looked cool haha. I'm still pretty new to glass and not sure how all this shit functions but I like it. You do make sense tho. Ok my vote goes back to the regular peyote pillar

 

[Delta3DStudios]

I think there's a handful of blowers out there that sell their glass to many vendors on the site. In general, each blower does their own models, so if you see 50 vendors with the same glass piece, most likely it was made by the same vendor.

HOWEVER In the past such as the case with the original D020 - once it gained popularity, several knockoffs came about (and I still see several on Dhgate), they looked very similar to the original D020, but the build quality was way worse than the OG, clearly made by a different factory (funny, one chinese company copying the design from another vendor, way to steal your OWN designs for once!)

I haven't heard of any differences like that with the Double Barrel, so it's probably safe to assume it was made at the same factory.

Actually, come to think of it, here's a piece which I've seen at least 4 or 5 different versions:

They all have the same price, and look similar, though the vortex bulge near the mouthpiece changes shape - sometimes I see them smaller and more round, sometimes I see them long like this one. Also the recycler output is sometimes on the bottom of the rig, and sometimes raised up slightly like this one.

Here's a VERY similar piece, with a different perc - they could have been made at the same factory, but the pictures and build quality are different enough that one could have been a copy from the other

Just had to follow up on this discussion since It's still relatively recent, even if we're already 8 pages past this point....

HRglass is yet another vendor with a *similar* looking bubbler which at first glance looks like the same piece, but as you can tell when looking at the others above, it's actually a different design:
http://www.dhgate.com/store/product/recycler-new-glass-bongs-smoking-water-pipe/214708441.html

 

[Cannabis Connoisseur]

I wish that peyote pillar was certified official and the piece blankrider posted I'd buy both of those

 

[hanfhead]

Grannies need bongs too! Don't be so judgemental.

 

[Dramma Lamma]

Pillar recycler is kind of defeatist. The entire point of the pillar section is that the bubbles will always take the path of least resistance. The air does not go up all the tubes at once but kind of randomly switches and the water drops back down through other ones. Therefore it is internally recycling.

If you add on a vortex chamber and return then there is no point of making a pillar in the first place.

Just my

Yeah, I get your point in it not being "needed"

Seeing the water move around is a big appeal to me in glass and well, the external chamber and vortex is just appealing to me.

Also a pillar recycler would kinda be like a recylcer in a recyler. Need I state how cool recyler-ception is?


Tho honestly without using one then the other back to back I really have no clue which I would actually like more, and lets be honest glass is all subjective preference so you might love something I hate or vice-versa.

 

[ChippyMalone]

@blankrider I've never seen a pillar before. Did I see the action right? It looked like the water air was sort of randomly going up and down a bunch of internal tunes depending on fluctuating pressure conditions?

Well, that looked really fun. I'll pass of the FC-187 since I have an original version and wait for the next novelty perc

 

[blankrider]

Yeah @ChippyMalone that is exactly how it works. It was created before the recycler I believe. Either way mixing the two designs is possible but not ideal. With a normal recycler all the water is forced to through the uptake into the vortex chamber. The whole point of the pillar is so the water can fall back down instead of being sucked up. Similar concept to a recycler but kind of the opposite so it would constantly be fighting itself on how the water would be displaced. If you get what I'm saying...

This is a case where you pick one design or the other. If this was a good design you would see a popular big name company making them.

I do get the appeal though. Who doesn't like a miniature tornado in their Bong

 

[LongIslandmom]

Just had to follow up on this discussion since It's still relatively recent, even if we're already 8 pages past this point....

HRglass is yet another vendor with a *similar* looking bubbler which at first glance looks like the same piece, but as you can tell when looking at the others above, it's actually a different design:
http://www.dhgate.com/store/product/recycler-new-glass-bongs-smoking-water-pipe/214708441.html

Hey guys - this peice looks so nice. There is so much posting going on here-is this the mighty 187 that everyone write about? Im waiting on that DO20-D to arrive. Who knows do nice padded pouches that can be ordered to protect your glass that aren't real expensive. I plan on traveling with my new little solo and this glass bubbler over the holidays and must travel to New Orleans in Jan. I got the soft case for the solo but it's so small that I can't seem to slide her in there. That's ok - I'm using it for the glass stems and will put the adapters in there as well. The bubbler must travel with me - I need the water filtration

On a completely different subject, I so want to open a shop that is only filled with vapes and bubblers and let people try vapes before they purchase....of course, pot would have to be legal everywhere; you would need to have many various mouthpieces that the customer could buy them cheaply so they could try the vape and then you would have know each vape really well so you could show the customer how to clean and care for the vapes and glass. That leaves me out of the loop. But wouldn't it be awesome?

Padded pouches - who has them?. Vape stores - only online and in my head!!

 

[VJJJV]

Well I want one of those pillar things!

 

[Tweak]

I'll pass of the FC-187 since I have an original version and wait for the next novelty perc

I believe you got the second generation GB-187. The second run, circa April 2014?

The FC-187 appears to be from an even different retailer/blower, perhaps. Plus it has a side car, . You can never have too many matrix percs, lol.

I would have ordered a second run GB-187 if I didn't know the side car version was coming. Wasn't expecting it this quick,

 

[photobooth]

Can anyone confirm the FC-187 is in fact 18mm female fitting?
The Dhgate listing doesn't appear to have a joint size listed

 

[Elevapor]

Can anyone confirm the FC-187 is in fact 18mm female fitting?
The Dhgate listing doesn't appear to have a joint size listed

Confirm.

 

[VJJJV]

Confirm.

I checked his credentials, there wasn't any. Seems legit.

 

[Elevapor]

Padded pouches - who has them?.

If a canvas pouch would work you could try messaging some Etsy sellers to see if they'll sew a custom size for you. These are just a couple i found real quick.
https://www.etsy.com/listing/205501...&ga_search_type=handmade&ga_view_type=gallery
https://www.etsy.com/listing/210343...&ga_search_type=handmade&ga_view_type=gallery

 

[DieHard]

Looks like you could hide it on the Christmas Tree and play Bong Hide-and-

I'd really like a larger scientific design with some colorful accents. Like a GB-187 done up like this. I'd pay $100 or more for that. Yes, I know most people would hate that.

I have seen a worked down stem made by @VaPeD&CoNfUsEd that fits inside. That would add some color.

 

[Frederick McGuire]

Yeah @ChippyMalone that is exactly how it works. It was created before the recycler I believe. Either way mixing the two designs is possible but not ideal. With a normal recycler all the water is forced to through the uptake into the vortex chamber. The whole point of the pillar is so the water can fall back down instead of being sucked up. Similar concept to a recycler but kind of the opposite so it would constantly be fighting itself on how the water would be displaced. If you get what I'm saying...

This is a case where you pick one design or the other. If this was a good design you would see a popular big name company making them.

I do get the appeal though. Who doesn't like a miniature tornado in their Bong

I've kinda gotta disagree with your conclusions.

With a high enough water level, you can get the water to stack all the way up the uptube and perc out the top.
It almost make the top of the tubes effectively a 6 hole disk perc.

Once the water is up the tubes, throwing a vortex chamber and return tube in there shouldn't really change the function of the pillar itself I'd think...

Also, Itza have been doing pillar-cyclers for a year or 2 now...

Personally I'd love to see something similar to the sg pillar (natty splash/sidecar/removable/bubbler style mouthpiece, at least 12, but preferably closer to 14-15 inches tall. There's also the options of straight tube base with a foot, or beaker style base. Maybe a tiny splash of color in the base, on the top, or in the bridge? I know that's pushing it...) I'd love to see a matrix perc in there replacing the peyote, makes it less of a direct clone...

Once the traditional pillar is up and running, I'd love to see him try to do a pillar-cycler

 

[captainredbeard]

yea i wish it had some sort of perc in there


EDIT. this looks interesting http://www.dhgate.com/store/product/2014-new-glass-bongs-smoking-water-pipe-with/214724549.html

Hey I've been stalking this thread for awhile now until I saw this. I just bough the legit american version of this. Its the JM Flow sci mini can inline to crystal ball. Personally that knock off ball is awful, there's no up stem on the original. I just thought I'd add my two cents, I'll add a picture of mine very soon. I love this thread, I'm making a Christmas list of what I want lol. I realized how many shops push China glass as local made, because it is a decent quality as long as it isn't that fucking garbage colored glass with branch percs.

 

[ctxgooner]

Just ordered my fc 187 and i realized im going to pay more for a gong and a good nail than i did for the piece.....

 

[cybrguy]

I'm looking forward to my FC-187, but I wouldn't have minded if it was a little taller. As I intend to use it with flowers rather than concentrates, a little more volume might have been nice. That has been my complaint (such as it is) about much of the china glass we see, that it could be a little bigger. That is probably also part of why I tend to favor the D022, which is a little taller (but narrower).

I don't expect this to keep me from enjoying the FC-287, however...

Edit: Hmmm... A little too many littles I think...

 

[LongIslandmom]

If a canvas pouch would work you could try messaging some Etsy sellers to see if they'll sew a custom size for you. These are just a couple i found real quick.
https://www.etsy.com/listing/205501...&ga_search_type=handmade&ga_view_type=gallery
https://www.etsy.com/listing/210343...&ga_search_type=handmade&ga_view_type=gallery

This was so nice of you. I only need a couple but I will check them out for sure. I'm very excited to see the adapters and bubblers as well.

 

[Delta3DStudios]

I'm looking forward to my FC-187, but I wouldn't have minded if it was a little taller. As I intend to use it with flowers rather than concentrates, a little more volume might have been nice. That has been my complaint (such as it is) about much of the china glass we see, that it could be a little bigger. That is probably also part of why I tend to favor the D022, which is a little taller (but narrower).

I don't expect this to keep me from enjoying the FC-287, however...

Edit: Hmmm... A little too many littles I think...

FC-187 too short? I thought it's more than tall enough! I kinda wish it was smaller! (flowers only, no concentrates)

Anyone get their shipping notices for the FC-187? I haven't gotten any updates since this morning!

@LongIslandmom - I'm ordering a custom padded bag for the YQ-42 I bought for my friend from this vendor:
https://www.etsy.com/listing/104766455/extra-large-glass-water-pipe-hookah-case