Cheap High Quality Bubbler

063_XOBX

Ganjapreneur
CCG contacted me today and said my order has been sent out and that the tracking number is not false. tracking number still doesnt work. *fingers crossed*


EDIT. what's going on with this piece?

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http://www.dhgate.com/product/quot-...lass-bongs/211474048.html#s1-11-1c|1154695984
Looks like a built in jar that might also work as a splash guard.
 
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Dangus

Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
My Beehive from CCG came in today. Not at all as described. Blue glass, 18mm joint size and a regular downstem instead of a showerhead. Dispute started.

Crap, that's a bummer. Thanks for the heads up and jumping in on a piece with borrowed pics. That's part the gamble...and sometimes it doesn't shake out.

Mine has yet to ship...but I don't do 18mm male, and don't want to buy another nail...think I'm gonna cancel and get that Kathy fab egg...

Cheers

EDIT: refund requested, fab egg ordered :D
 
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calyx

Active Member
So Steven has dabuccino rigs too.
http://www.dhgate.com/product/2014-new-glass-smoking-pipes-galss-bongs/211004225.html

The pic on his listing is a bit confusing, as it has 3 sizes:
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I asked him about the sizing, and what the label situation was.

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I really want one of these dabuccino rigs but i'm not feeling the build quality of the Chinese made ones. The downstem looks like a straight tube with no percs from what I can tell, and the end of the straw is lower than the nail and probably an inch away. I can foresee that little thing being very hard to use.
 

BOBCAT

Its Just Temporary
Just picked up my yingman gb228 from the post office,made it from China to the east coast in 8 days.No box,but a ton of bubble wrap and tape.After 15 minutes of unwrapping it arrived in perfect condition.Gonna give her a run tonight and see how it compares to the D020
 

LongIslandmom

Well-Known Member
@LongIslandmom, so very glad to hear that you are clear. :clap: I know how terrifying an experience this can be, and the stress of it all can leave one in shambles. But now you are healing, let time and patience be your friends.

And I think you'll do better with your questions in this thread, a lot more glass specific info. Just keep in mind the very wide variety of vapes/users represented here - while some generalities apply to many vapes, there are also characteristics that may work fine with some vapes but less so with others. Not to speak of just plain personal preference one user to the next.

Revisiting a few previous posts . . . the "Atomic" piece posted yesterday by @PoopMachine on the EVO thread might be representative of a good candidate for you. The price is right, the circ looks sufficient for moisturizing, the volume is modest, and apparently the action is very smooth. It's actually somewhat similar to VXL's HydraFoot 2.0 (not currently offered) which I have, and it does a good job (but costs $100 more). Pieces like this sometimes have just a little bit of drag at the beginning of the hit when the water is initially displaced, but IME that is negligible.

How well the piece moisturizes is only going to get you so far; the other characteristics are factors, too. A medium-to-large volume piece requires more work from the muscles at the back of your pharynx and your larynx. Smooth action will feel more relaxed as you inhale. And of course your technique needs to match up with the piece, too.

About the water temp . . . I don't suppose you could ask your doctor? Hot water could be irritating to delicate tissues. And while warm water holds more moisture, it also opens the pores more in your throat and bronchi. A member here who had pulmonary issues asked his specialist about this and IIRC was told that it could increase the chance/severity of infection (due to increased tissue absorption). IMO it comes down to what your particular condition dictates, and only you (and your doc) can evaluate that.

EDIT: I see on the EVO thread that @JAM has found a DHgate duplicate (or so it appears) for less than $40. Might be the Chinese version? Anyway, here's that post:

http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/vapexhale-cloud-evo.11357/page-252#post-674462
I was looking for your input my friend. FC members from everywhere have been posting, looking investigating; it was humbling too say the least. I am so proud that this many members want to help

Talk to me more about muscle use. This has been said too me a few times. Some of the pieces are large and the evo itself is big. I do have to change how I inhale. I must change the temp of the evo itself; I had it to high. A long time ago when I saw this doctor and vaping just wasn't happening yet he said to use ice cold water. I have been very honest with this dr because if he doesn't know the truth then how can he help me. I have destroyed patient dr confidentiality by sharing with all of you. But I don't care about that because it's already decriminalized in NY and ENT he's seen it all. Last time we saw it each other pre surgery he said he wanted me to quit completely and like a baby I started to cry. But honestly what is he going to say; yeah go vape your head off?
So I have to apply many methods as you so correctly point out. Right now I want to focus on muscle use; I see him tomorrow
and have a feeling he is going to want me to continue voice rest. It doesn't sound good. I may also get the recommendation of voice therapy and exercises - gee that should be fun.

So anyone who wants to add to muscle use chime in.

That was an awesome post chocked full of info thx. I am weeks away from doing anything. But when I do I am giving all of the shout out.

OBG: oldies like us are certainly in a new world
 
LongIslandmom,

flickyourbic

Well-Known Member
http://www.aliexpress.com/store/pro...less-and-banger-nails/1312017_2025902977.html

Hyman Quartz is where most of the cheaper quartz nails come from.
Most of their AliEx items are wholesale only but this listing seems to be for a single nail.
I've never purchased from them, however.

edit: its only cheap shipped to Australia... shipping to US makes it highway robbery... one of the very few times it works to our benefit down here. :D

Wow sorry but fuck that guy. I despise people who do shady things like that with pricing and shipping. Good deal for you guys if you're getting it for $18 shipped somehow. Perhaps ya'll could inquire about a bulk order with combined shipping and re-sell them to us for more. ;)

I'm in pretty good contact with the guy from egeneration so maybe I can get him to make me a few bangers as a special order/request. I'm pissed I can't find these anywhere now for a reasonable price yet they were everywhere before ordering my D020.
 

weenstoned

Well-Known Member
My Beehive from CCG came in today. Not at all as described. Blue glass, 18mm joint size and a regular downstem instead of a showerhead. Dispute started.

Any chance you could take a pic? Was considering ordering one and none of those differences are total dealbreakers to me assuming it still looks decent.
 

LongIslandmom

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L Isl Mom, you are looking at smoothest vapor for your throat. One element just as important as best water piece, is the best "technique" for your individual needs. For technique in a water piece, the best water temp varies by what is needed by person, is it vapor or smoke, etc.

I just dug deep and did my water temp comparison, back to back :) I sometimes do room temp water in my Mobius and sometimes hot water.
As I thought. back to back, the hot water bubbler makes for much much much "easier on the throat and lungs" vapor.

Why is that? Hot water moisturizes the air/vapor much more than room temp water does. Air/vapor that is too hot and/or too dry irritates the throat. FOR VAPOR , heat is not the main issue, it is the DRY DRY vapor. Hot water moisturizes it much better. For COMBUSTED herbs, HEAT is the main issue to so big arse bongs with huge volume , cool water, and even ice are great, but not needed for vaping.

I just did back to back. With room temp water, it's like a neutral/zero rating that vapor does not irritate the throat at all. With hot water, I'd rate a plus + 2. that it actually feels good/ like it is helping any dry throat issues. Just take a hit thru the water piece with microwaved hot water (with no herb). It's like a moisture bath for your throat / feels good. Not boiling but very hot.

Flame suit on, but try it before you input......

LI Mom, get a nice inexpensive bubbler and fine tune your technique (VapeXHale temp, water temp, bowl packed correctly, etc) and your BFF's will be waked and baked to perfection...... gair ant teed.......
Ok so I am going try hot water to moisturizer and keep dryness down. It makes sense that's why people drink warm teA. I gotta bring my temp down as well, I gotta resist filling the bowl so much. I gotta practice using my throat muscles correctly. My target date is either Nov 4 or Nov 7. I want to have test this out once before I see the girls. My tolerance better be way down. If I wait till the 7th that more than 2 months. I may have started throat breathing therapy by then.

Minibobber I also look for your posts!!!
 
LongIslandmom,

BoogerMan

Well-Known Member
My Beehive from CCG came in today. Not at all as described. Blue glass, 18mm joint size and a regular downstem instead of a showerhead. Dispute started.

Seems like CCG needs to be scratched off the list. I still don't know how they have 100% positive feedback. I tried leaving feedback (they sent me the wrong color after I was promised by 2 different CCG people I would get clear) but I guess my negative feedback never went through. I didn't file a dispute because it was just the wrong color but the piece is long gone now because I'm not a huge fan of pink lol.

I ordered the barrel to funnel from Steven (just missed the discount, ordered it a few days ago, oh well) and I was going to order the dabuccino rig from him too, but like @Frederick McGuire posted it has the Roor logo and I didn't want that. The lion would have been fine but not Roor.

I ordered the dabuccino rig from CCG instead. I sure hope it is like their pictures because if it is it should be okay but if not I'm definitely going to leave negative feedback and possibly file a dispute if it is complete crap.
 

063_XOBX

Ganjapreneur
Seems like CCG needs to be scratched off the list. I still don't know how they have 100% positive feedback.

I ordered the dabuccino rig from CCG instead. I sure hope it is like their pictures because if it is it should be okay but if not I'm definitely going to leave negative feedback and possibly file a dispute if it is complete crap.
Don't expect anything better than a basic straight downstem and you probably won't be disappointed.


CCG responded to my message explaining how I wasn't happy about the misleading pictures.


hello sir
thank you for you rletter
could you pls kindly send us the product you received ? we guess it must be workers wrong packing
pls be assured that you will get protected from us
awaiting your early reply
allen

Yeah, no.

I told him I thought it was unacceptable for me to have to pay even more money for what is at best just a packing mistake like he claims and at worst intentionally misleading me.
 

Aaron

Well-Known Member
I ordered the dabuccino rig from CCG instead. I sure hope it is like their pictures because if it is it should be okay but if not I'm definitely going to leave negative feedback and possibly file a dispute if it is complete crap.
Nothing to worry about. CCG's dabuccino is exactly as listed in all the pictures.

I would say that is too many strikes against CCG. Steer clear or do business strictly at your own risk imo. They have awesome pictures but it definitely seems like a bit of bait and switch going on to me.
I wouldn't suggest people totally knock him off your list but be cautious as stated. My first and only order with him went as smooth possible. Ordered on 9/24, shipped out on the 25th, and received on the 2nd (I would've had it on the 1st but I missed the delivery).

I also got the dabuccino rig for $21. This was his original price he quoted me so it just shows you how cheap these pieces really are.. For anyone who had a really bad order, I would suggest you ask for a generous partial refund
 

BoogerMan

Well-Known Member
Nothing to worry about. CCG's dabuccino is exactly as listed in all the pictures.


I wouldn't suggest people totally knock him off your list but be cautious as stated. My first and only order with him went as smooth possible. Ordered on 9/24, shipped out on the 25th, and received on the 2nd (I would've had it on the 1st but I missed the delivery).

I also got the dabuccino rig for $21. This was his original price he quoted me so it just shows you how cheap these pieces really are.. For anyone who had a really bad order, I would suggest you ask for a generous partial refund

Thanks for the confirmation @Aaron. That makes me feel a little better and I'm glad it won't have just a single hole downstem. Kind of sucks I spent $40 but if it is good quality and looks like the pic I have no problem paying $40. That's way better than $700 for the real one :rockon::tup::clap:

And I just wanted to bring up hempgarage.com based out of Canada incase others missed the old posts about it. They have a lot of items around $50. I know they would be cheaper from China but I still think $50 is really cheap!

I bought their starbud frap 14mm bubbler and it is great quality. Same as the GravLabs cup but it is only $50 instead of $150! I use it almost everyday with my lotus. The 4 hole perc pairs amazing with it.
http://hempgarage.com/products/starbud-frap
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I have also been eyeing this 13 arm bubbler. Looks nice and I recently sold my palm tree bong so I'm looking by for another tree perc piece.
http://hempgarage.com/products/13-arm-bubbler-w-donut
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And I'm definitely liking this mini starbud frap. I hope they have a Black Friday sale or something :)
http://hempgarage.com/products/10mmstarbud
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LongIslandmom

Well-Known Member
This guy seems to have pretty good quality dabuccino rigs, but he has some steep prices ($75+shipping) and no feedback/sales.
http://www.dhgate.com/product/starbucks-rig-glass-water-pipes/209347357.html#s1-2-1c|562980034
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StoneMonkey55. Do you see how many people are pairing their evos with other water tools and bubblers. You should take notice of this and work out an arrangement with the most popular master glass blowers and feature them on your site instead of having to say out of stock. Some of them are making them specifically for the xhale. Then you could concentrate on building a smaller vaporizer to take on the solo.
You haven't worked out all the problems with cracked bamboo; selling overseas with the correct voltage.
You could concentrate on this and expand the product line and let others make the awesome water tools. I believe you must have some type of exclusive arrangement with who ever is making the hydra tools. You should let that contract either expire or drop him for non performance because to have to say out of stock constantly isn't doing you any good. I love my exhale - please don't get me wrong. But everyone seems to be turning to other water tools to pair it with. And the herbalizer even if it is more expensive is gaining ground on you. So is the solo as a cheaper alternative to you.

I think the xhale is the best product; you know that. But look at the glass site. FC members are spending good money on tools you could be promoting and getting a small cut from

This is IMHO; think about it. And if a lot of people like this post then I just may be on to something

Your very devoted and still voiceless
LIMOM
Who still can't find the avatars/symbols so I may really know nothing. I hope I didn't offend anyone. Anyone who knows me on this site knows that's not my style or intention
 
LongIslandmom,

vapordab

Medical+FC=Recreational
I just got my GB186-1 from yingmin, and it has a crack in the joint, one in the mouthpeice, and one on the can.(all small hairline cracks, except one) Unacceptable in my eyes.

It seems like he is going to offer a partial refund. I'm tempted to just smash it and request 100%.. Well see. I love the size, aesthetics, etc though.. Waiting for a resolution before I try it though.
 
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Roth

Pining for the Mountains
StoneMonkey55. Do you see how many people are pairing their evos with other water tools and bubblers. You should take notice of this and work out an arrangement with the most popular master glass blowers and feature them on your site instead of having to say out of stock. Some of them are making them specifically for the xhale. Then you could concentrate on building a smaller vaporizer to take on the solo.
You haven't worked out all the problems with cracked bamboo; selling overseas with the correct voltage.
You could concentrate on this and expand the product line and let others make the awesome water tools. I believe you must have some type of exclusive arrangement with who ever is making the hydra tools. You should let that contract either expire or drop him for non performance because to have to say out of stock constantly isn't doing you any good. I love my exhale - please don't get me wrong. But everyone seems to be turning to other water tools to pair it with. And the herbalizer even if it is more expensive is gaining ground on you. So is the solo as a cheaper alternative to you.

I think the xhale is the best product; you know that. But look at the glass site. FC members are spending good money on tools you could be promoting and getting a small cut from

This is IMHO; think about it. And if a lot of people like this post then I just may be on to something

Your very devoted and still voiceless
LIMOM
Who still can't find the avatars/symbols so I may really know nothing. I hope I didn't offend anyone. Anyone who knows me on this site knows that's not my style or intention


I don't know, I think you're assuming quite a bit here. A large chunk of the people you see in the glass threads are "glass heads", many of them have quite a collection of glass. There are many people who love the style of a hydratube and would prefer not to invert. Everyone has their own preference (I prefer to invert). Just because you see a few dozen people excited about a new glass blower, doesn't mean everyone is abandoning VXL.

While I can't speak for SM55 personally, I think it's a little crazy to assume the international issues are due to him worrying about hydratubes. And like you said, he might be in a contract with some suppliers that is unable to change at the moment.

And what is the cracked bamboo issue you speak of? First I'm hearing of that. Occasionally someone will have their bamboo crack without any impact to the EVO (possible cause, heater wrapped too tight on bamboo). In that case, VXL takes care of you. It's a rare occurrence from what I've seen in the EVO thread. Sure, a small percentage of ANY product will have failures. You also have to remember that nearly everyone who has an issue is going to log in and complain about it. But how many of the happy customers are constantly posting how amazing it is? Sure, there are some, but it's just a fraction of the total out there.


All that being said though, I absolutely think it would be beneficial to have VXL working with some more glass blowers. But honestly, if that happened, you'd be paying a higher price then going straight to the source like you can now with blowers like Doughboy. Right now, there are options for everyone. But for those that do a little digging/research, a better option can be had for a cheaper price.



Regarding the avatar: In the upper right of the screen, hover over your username. Then click on "Personal Details" when it pops up. You'll see a section for your avatar there. All you have to do is provide the link to the picture you want to use. There are no premade ones that I'm aware of. Find whatever picture you want to use on the internet, and link to it.
 

OvaDaBong

Member
Ive been reading this thread a bit and i see from time to time that people pissed when they get the wrong item/broken item/cracked item or just not what they ordered. Keep in mind that you are buying from china, paying less than $50 for a bubbler and im not sure what your really expecting? Most of the designs im seeing are total rip offs of name American branded glass, they see a pic, sit down and give it a go, before u know it they have ripped off a Toro or Illidelph glass bong and ask 1/10th the price sometimes like the dabachino they have the exact same logos on em. With glass you do really get what you pay for. That said i have seen some gems im not seeing els ware so i sorta wish china and india would create their own style or pipes and not knock stuff off
 

Frederick McGuire

Aggressively Loungey
I think the expectations we have a quite fair:
A lower quality of workmanship, but to get the item we order in a working state.

Its basic commerce - we are buying a good.

We know it is not a high premium good, but a good nonetheless.

I don't care how cheap any item is, if they are selling it, it must be of a saleable quality.

For glassware - bongs or not, cracked is not saleable quality.
 

LongIslandmom

Well-Known Member
Ive been reading this thread a bit and i see from time to time that people pissed when they get the wrong item/broken item/cracked item or just not what they ordered. Keep in mind that you are buying from china, paying less than $50 for a bubbler and im not sure what your really expecting? Most of the designs im seeing are total rip offs of name American branded glass, they see a pic, sit down and give it a go, before u know it they have ripped off a Toro or Illidelph glass bong and ask 1/10th the price sometimes like the dabachino they have the exact same logos on em. With glass you do really get what you pay for. That said i have seen some gems im not seeing els ware so i sorta wish china and india would create their own style or pipes and not knock stuff off
Gentlemen:

Points well taken. There are glass heads out there. I'm new here and maybe I misspoke. But I don't think my side circ provided the diffusion I really needed. StoneMonkey55 I may have been wrong in my assertions and as I said I do love my exhale. You know that.

I was I no way referring to the china knock offs. There are some glass blowers here that are putting out beautiful pieces. The exhale is meant to be paired with a water tool. But I accept that I may have totally jumped the gun.

The international issues had nothing to do with the hydra tubes. VXL had a lot of problems getting the plug in voltage correct. I think that has been addressed but it was a real problem

Having said that I do wish there was a more portable piece.
SM55: I may have been totally out of line here and if I was I sincerely apologize. You know I'm really new here and new to vaping period. And as I say in the post I don't know how to get avatar up so really what do I know. Sometimes rookies drop the ball. Sometimes they make it to the goal line. At leat they keep trying to stay on the team

I'm so glad I posted on here and not on the exhale site. And I really do appreciate the input,

LIMOMLIMOM
 
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