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[oli]

Yes a low pro adaptor is the way to go...

The blue honeycomb is really small. Prefer to use it for dabbing now. Think for combustion it might be too small. I personally think it is to small to vape out of with my cloud.

If only the inline to honeycomb would be a bit bigger...I think the inline might take the chug out of it....?

I have read a few post by now but still can't understand how do you differentiate oil rigs to flower!

What are the criterias?

Why is it too small for the cloud?

 

[tepictoton]

I just d not like the cloud being up in my face like that...also, one way or the other, I personally seem to prefer to have glass that I can see filling up and then 'milk' it, which with this size of a piece simply does not work out very well. It is however a perfect size for dabs if you ask me...

Edit: forgot to say, tried taking picture with the cloud on top, but the piece is then out of balance and tips over...so that to me is a big nono...would probably pair great with a solo...

 

[b0]

I just d not like the cloud being up in my face like that...also, one way or the other, I personally seem to prefer to have glass that I can see filling up and then 'milk' it, which with this size of a piece simply does not work out very well. It is however a perfect size for dabs if you ask me...

Edit: forgot to say, tried taking picture with the cloud on top, but the piece is then out of balance and tips over...so that to me is a big nono...would probably pair great with a solo...

I use it with my cloud and totally love it! But I love small pieces, so it's perfect for me. The only bad part is the balance

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

I have read a few post by now but still can't understand how do you differentiate oil rigs to flower!

What are the criterias?

Why is it too small for the cloud?

Usually whatever joint the put on differentiates it. Female gong and it's for flowers since almost all the slides are male. If it has male joint it's meant for dabbing, the nail sits on the joint and the dome has a female joint. That's about the only criteria there is for me, a flower/oil piece can be made to do the other with an adapter.

 

[oli]

Usually whatever joint the put on differentiates it. Female gong and it's for flowers since almost all the slides are male. If it has male joint it's meant for dabbing, the nail sits on the joint and the dome has a female joint. That's about the only criteria there is for me, a flower/oil piece can be made to do the other with an adapter.

Agreed, that's the info I knew of, but often people will say, nice piece but better for oil for ex, but I never get it why exactly?

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Agreed, that's the info I knew of, but often people will say, nice piece but better for oil for ex, but I never get it why exactly?

Oooh, okay. Yeah usually small pieces are "better" for oils because of less water needed and smaller size in general. Less water and diffusion is well-liked for oils because there isn't much to filter out from vaping oil. Too much water/diffusion can strip the taste from your oil.

 

[SSVUN~YAH]

Oooh, okay. Yeah usually small pieces are "better" for oils because of less water needed and smaller size in general. Less water and diffusion is well-liked for oils because there isn't much to filter out from vaping oil. Too much water/diffusion can strip the taste from your oil.

Right on Quetz! I've been using the infamous and the mini hc bong. Had just a piece of ice laying on top of the hc perc and just a splash of water below(so no stackage at all) but I got a great taste and smack you n your head high!

The blue honeycomb is really small.

When I receive it, it will be my largest piece. I have the infamous, mini hc tube, PNWT and D020 like @b0 I dig the little dudes!

 

[ou812?]

For those of you that have any interest in my Kathy Hu saga.. My two pieces arrived from over there last week (33 days) and the ash catcher was the wrong size. I ordered 14mm, she sent me 18mm. I asked for it to be replaced, she wants the old one returned. Im not going to spend $20.00 to ship a $10.00 piece back to China so I told her to forget it.

Id gladly return it if she sends a prepaid label but thats not going to happen. Just doesnt make sense to send back something that cheap at my expense. Id be better off just ordering another one.

FWIW
Hey PM,sorry to hear the Wu vendor screwed up the order, it has happened to me as well and what I may suggest,

heres the said guarantee on the site:



Refund or Keep

items not as described
You can get a full refund if your item is significantly different from the seller's description


or


*You can choose a partial refund and keep the product.

sounds as if the item you rec'd is not of what you ordered and I think if you contact A.E. you might find a solution. Kathy has worked thru the few mistakes that were created by her outfit and she made good on them in the past.Im surprised she didnt offer you a full refund with your re-order of the item you wanted.Thats what she has done in the past with my situation w/her.You may want to ask,cant hurt, or you can do as like and chalk it up as a loss. IDK I would try to get her to recognize her mistake and ask her about the above guarantee and then choose either a full or partial refund,but I do believe its part of the bennys of doing biz w/A.E. Besides in all honesty using the bushing type low-pro reducer works like a charm on the 18mm import f/m joints I have,really shouldnt stop ya from the end result of you getting baked thru your rig with out a problem

 

[xRUFUSx]

Maybe it's too much work, but for comparison's sake, it would be nice to know the internal volume of a piece. Maybe fill it up completely with water and then dump and measure?

There are I guess 5-6 bubblers discussed most on this thread, and I think it would be helpful to know this about each. It's too bad such info isn't standard for blowers/manufacturers for such smoking devices - all us stoners would appreciate it I think when trying to shop for glass.

Lol that HC - its one perc with various end pieces, mouthpieces, and bases, so it can be marketed as 5 different items. Gooseneck and upright female GG is my favorite config. Can you fit a little diffuser downstem on that thing? Like one of these shorties?

 

[ataxian]

Maybe it's too much work, but for comparison's sake, it would be nice to know the internal volume of a piece. Maybe fill it up completely with water and then dump and measure?

There are I guess 5-6 bubblers discussed most on this thread, and I think it would be helpful to know this about each. It's too bad such info isn't standard for blowers/manufacturers for such smoking devices - all us stoners would appreciate it I think when trying to shop for glass.

Lol that HC - its one perc with various end pieces, mouthpieces, and bases, so it can be marketed as 5 different items. Gooseneck and upright female GG is my favorite config.

1 liter of water could be the unit of measure?

Ratio and Proportion Factor?

200 / 1000 = X
300 / 1000 = X

Then besides volume metric measurement you have restricted Air Flow:
"Shower Head verses Frit for example"!

Just thinking out loud!

 

[xRUFUSx]

Just thinking out loud!

Out loud is where it's at. I hadn't considered your idea, I think partially because I dropped out of college too soon to know how to measure that kind of thing... but hell yeah.

Info that every water piece should have imo:
(Total Internal Volume of piece) - (Volume of water for efficient percolation) = (Usable Air Volume)

 

[ataxian]

Out loud is where it's at. I hadn't considered your idea, I think partially because I dropped out of college too soon to know how to measure that kind of thing... but hell yeah.

I'd trade existing HxWxD spec info for cubic centimeters in a heartbeat!

When I lived in FRANCE I used metric. Now I use both Standard and Metric. For measurement I prefer metric.

 

[clouded vision]

Overall volume of a piece isn't really relevant when some will need a few inches of water while others will only need a slash depending on the perc design. Bore size is going to be another big factor to consider. Let's say you have a can that is 4cm interior bore with a height of 30cm, that's gives you a total volume of 377 cu.cm, in order to have the same volume from a 6cm bore piece, it would only be about 13.5 cm tall. Now let's say both pieces have the exact same perc and both need to be filled to the same height of 3 cm. That would leave you an effective milking volume of 339 cu.cm for the taller thinner piece and 297 cu.cm for the shorter squatter piece. That's a difference of 40 cu.cm of milking volume from 2 pieces with the same perc and same total volume.
I think HxWxD along with bore size are more important then overall volume when trying to pick apiece. Also, glass pipes are all still handmade which means that there will be differences piece to piece for the same design. Even high quality American made glass like mobius can have inch+ differences so when you start looking at Chinese glass without qc standards, the differences can be significant.

 

[gnarlescharles]

Sorry if this is off topic, but does anyone know any details on this bong and know of a wholesaler selling it for cheap?

https://www.ioffer.com/i/13-tall-5mm-thick-double-green-honeycomb-cyclone-bong-562389044

I am seeing his exact same bong on many shopify (thick-glass, max quality glass etc) websites and on ioffer. Usually when you notice this they are just middle manning china glass. If anyone knows any distribters of this bong for cheap please let me know!

 

[max]

Sorry if this is off topic, but does anyone know any details on this bong and know of a wholesaler selling it for cheap?

It's not off topic at all. The thread's about good, low priced glass. Can't help you with that particular item though. Hopefully someone else can.

 

[Tstat]

I went on iOffer today and bought one of those do20 bubblers for my son. I'm not sure of I bought it though, lol. I have an account there, but I don't think my card was charged and it said something about going to DHGate to purchase.

 

[ou812?]

Sorry if this is off topic, but does anyone know any details on this bong and know of a wholesaler selling it for cheap?

https://www.ioffer.com/i/13-tall-5mm-thick-double-green-honeycomb-cyclone-bong-562389044

I am seeing his exact same bong on many shopify (thick-glass, max quality glass etc) websites and on ioffer. Usually when you notice this they are just middle manning china glass. If anyone knows any distribters of this bong for cheap please let me know!

I hear ya but from my walks around most of the import mkts,I havent seen those particular rigs for less(double H/C TO CYCLONE) for under 100 bucks,IIRC I think he wants 104 and change,no?I'd jump on one for 50 bucks but not common. There are few posters who might have purchased rigs from them with good results. Pipes Daddy has something similar for under $80 http://www.pipesdaddy.com/Bent-2-Honeycomb-Glass-Water-Pipe-p/wp-0200-0001.htm you may like that one, both are decent rigs,I dont know the true specifics, but what is presented to me on both sites looks good.I personally would go the less expensive route ,but thats just me,YMMV

 

[Tweak]

I have an account there, but I don't think my card was charged and it said something about going to DHGate to purchase.

I'm guessing you are buying from sunshinestore?

I did the same thing with the WP-010. I just went over to dhgate and re-bought it, then 3 days later I got an email wanting me to pay for the one at iOffer. Told them to cancel it from iOffer.

 

[PoopMachine]

Err, lowpro means low profile. Since it's 18mm the 14mm ground glass fits inside of it, so there's only a few mm height added.

Its hard to describe the the 18mm piece isnt like the 14mm piece. It moves it out and cocks the ash catcher to one side. Its also REALLY beefy.. it adds a lot of girth. I have a huge, double perk bong thats like 2 feet tall.. it would be great with that. for my Syn 14mm beaker, its too much weight. I did buy a lo-pro adapter today and if you look at the bong wrong, it starts to tip over.

 

[ataxian]

I use it with my cloud and totally love it! But I love small pieces, so it's perfect for me. The only bad part is the balance

I like small Bubblers, Ash Collectors, Sherlocks (J-Hooks) and whatever else is possible. The NANO is so small with incredible power so it fits well with my glass set ups. The EVO CLOUD is a fine unit however I get so medicated from my cheap units I can't justify sending that much money to heat FLOWERS?
Maybe I just don't understand?

 

[equatorgringo]

I hear ya but from my walks around most of the import mkts,I havent seen those particular rigs for less(double H/C TO CYCLONE) for under 100 bucks,IIRC I think he wants 104 and change,no?I'd jump on one for 50 bucks but not common. There are few posters who might have purchased rigs from them with good results. Pipes Daddy has something similar for under $80 http://www.pipesdaddy.com/Bent-2-Honeycomb-Glass-Water-Pipe-p/wp-0200-0001.htm you may like that one, both are decent rigs,I dont know the true specifics, but what is presented to me on both sites looks good.I personally would go the less expensive route ,but thats just me,YMMV

That's a cool one. I've been eyeing this one the last couple days on that site:

http://www.pipesdaddy.com/mobile/Product.aspx?ProductCode=WP-0186

Not SO cheap especially after shipping but I think we've all seen worse.

Edit: Man for the sake of my current GAS issue I better get my Chinese glass soon, if not I'm going to start pulling triggers on stuff I like and are deals just to get something new to me!!!

 

[xRUFUSx]

... an effective milking volume ...

Yes you nailed it, effective milking volume - that's what I want to know when buying. It should be in the glossary starting now lol. And yeah it probably won't be a spec... ever, but it's an important characteristic of a piece, no? I think some rough EMV figures (even +/- 10% margin of error?) could help someone make a choice to best suit their pulling style in general, and especially in the context of this thread's title with only a few pieces being spotlit and so many asking for help deciding between them.

I'd like to measure the EMV's of some pieces I'm familiar with and get a sense of reference... does anyone else care about this crap? I always factor in the possibility I'm a bit loony

 

[Tweak]

I'd like to measure the EMV's of some pieces I'm familiar with and get a sense of reference... does anyone else care about this crap?

IMO, it would be hard to put a number on any given piece. Each piece might be made slightly different, and we all use different water levels.

And would you take into account the bubbles being displaced as part of the volume for milk? Cause even that differs with how hard someone draws.

 

[flotntoke]

IMO, it would be hard to put a number on any given piece. Each piece might be made slightly different, and we all use different water levels.

Each piece WILL be slightly different and seems especially true with Chinese glass. I'm sure the popularity of some pieces - like the D020 - will make that even more so as vendors try to load up on what becomes popular. I doubt they follow FC or other forums and probably are caught by surprise when the orders pile up on one particular unit. Am guessing this leads to a mad rush for production, probably leading to different places actually blowing and assembling the glass. So, differences are bound to appear. BTW.... think the major difference that has been seen with D020 is size of the slits.

As far as volume and performance, check out vids where possible and try to use the GonG as a point of reference. 18mm (or 14mm) GonGs are sized, so should be pretty much the same no matter what they're on. Not always easy or totally accurate while looking at a picture or vid, but should give you an idea.

 

[ataxian]

Yes you nailed it, effective milking volume -

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