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LabPong

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PSA--- Just ordered another one of these https://www.dhgate.com/product/toro-bongs-heady-glass-bong-birdcage-tire/407895538.html since I broke the matrix downstem and wanted some spare parts.
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see below response to LesPlenty .....thanks in advance!




I did too, not interchangeable percs, the showerhead was only 4 inches all up, had to fill ashcatcher to well over half to make it function, they sent me a replacement showerhead that is too long to fit either part.:rofl:
This is the second Roor Knock off I have purchased, the first was great, not the latest though, so I would say
pay a bit extra and get a Stevenimz... or gamble if you like to save 5 to 10 bucks.

What are the lengths of those 2 pieces from the bottom to the top? I want to get an 18/19mm single joint downstem like those. I need to be about 4 inches top to bottom looks like....those are close.

I am looking to put a showerhead or mini matrix in the big ass ones on a yingmin5 mobius center mount knockoff. (yes one inside another).

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This is my fav setup....hits so smooth...like butta! (thanks to the narrow downstem)
 

wildything

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Just picked up two nub cooler 18mm for my timber elite tall boy. Min order was 2 but free shipping $20.40

https://m.dhgate.com/product/nector...to|order_confirm_2017|browse1|20190915#pd-019

I have a ccg 9in straight can sol perc but the tall boy timber elite may dwarf it. Anyone out there with a nice peice meant for a taller vape ?
Nice find! Thanks

Edit- Still haven't used the new FC-Mod but the I forgot how much I liked using a bunch of different mouthpieces and hydratubes on the FC-Mod! :brow:
 
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justcametomind

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You should be right with Yinmin5, I sent him pictures of all the crucial levels and maximum variance that would be acceptable (hand-blown after all so cannot be exactly the same every time)





I have it tilted to make up for a wonky drop-down (that just broke and has more heatshrink on it to keep it going until replacements arrive), a handy feature when using the silicon in the joint.
I'm talking with DHgate rep about my bad buying experience. I have received some FC-Mod clone. The glass thing that gets inside the main body is too tall (or better said the main body is too short). So it has bad balance if used with the "attachment" on (should it be called the ash catcher?), other than a connection that's far from being airtight. You could probably get the job done if combusting, but that's not an easy thing for them to understand.
After telling me in every single mail that the next day they would close the controversy (without doing it), they offered me a 15$ refund while the piece costed 54$. I said that 15$ was better than nothing but the piece was considerably different than the pics, unusable as I intended to use it and would like better the seller would send me a shorter diffuser (the hing that gets inside the main body) or full refund.
They answered me they'll ask.
Is there any rule on it? Should't they apply the rules of the nation where the purchase goods gets delivered?
 

wildything

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I'm talking with DHgate rep about my bad buying experience. I have received some FC-Mod clone. The glass thing that gets inside the main body is too tall (or better said the main body is too short). So it has bad balance if used with the "attachment" on (should it be called the ash catcher?), other than a connection that's far from being airtight. You could probably get the job done if combusting, but that's not an easy thing for them to understand.
After telling me in every single mail that the next day they would close the controversy (without doing it), they offered me a 15$ refund while the piece costed 54$. I said that 15$ was better than nothing but the piece was considerably different than the pics, unusable as I intended to use it and would like better the seller would send me a shorter diffuser (the hing that gets inside the main body) or full refund.
They answered me they'll ask.
Is there any rule on it? Should't they apply the rules of the nation where the purchase goods gets delivered?
I received a refund for my FC-Mod (clone) after sending comparison pics next to the one from 2016 (there was also a white spot on the downstem). Are you just messaging the seller or have you started a dispute with Dhgate? If not the seller may be more inclined to work with you if you mention that you are about to start a dispute since it makes them look bad. Good luck!
 

cybrguy

Putin is a War Criminal
I have gone direct to the seller when I had a problem and usually got it worked out, but would not have been shy about going to DHGate if the seller wouldn't cooperate. They usually care about bad reviews.
Which seller did you buy from?
 

MuushuPork

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I only pop in once in a while, please forgive my lack of current knowledge. I am wondering if anyone has a favorite for their e-nail? I picked up an FC-710 when it originally came out years ago and I haven't bought anything but a couple replacements when I broke them. I look at the other stuff steven has and can't imagine anything else holding as much value as the 710. I originally used an e-nano and now am exclusively using concentrates on an Auber RDK 200B w/ dnail slim and sic halo. Maybe it's just a character trait though because I've only had the same enail for the past couple years. If it ain't broke right?

Anyway I am hoping to get some opinions to get me started on dhgate, I have to order another 710 as I cleaned it earlier and busted the mouthpiece on a pan in the sink.

p.s. - any reason to upgrade e-nails? feels like they all do the same thing, like the only difference is accuracy.
 

MasonJar

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I only pop in once in a while, please forgive my lack of current knowledge. I am wondering if anyone has a favorite for their e-nail? I picked up an FC-710 when it originally came out years ago and I haven't bought anything but a couple replacements when I broke them. I look at the other stuff steven has and can't imagine anything else holding as much value as the 710. I originally used an e-nano and now am exclusively using concentrates on an Auber RDK 200B w/ dnail slim and sic halo. Maybe it's just a character trait though because I've only had the same enail for the past couple years. If it ain't broke right?

Anyway I am hoping to get some opinions to get me started on dhgate, I have to order another 710 as I cleaned it earlier and busted the mouthpiece on a pan in the sink.

p.s. - any reason to upgrade e-nails? feels like they all do the same thing, like the only difference is accuracy.

If you are ordering a replacement FC-710, get it from the seller Ebizcn: https://www.dhgate.com/product/2015...cinfo=8,2001,2#cppd-2-5|null:2001:r1109881908

They are cheaper and quality is great... plus shipping is free. I got two FC-710 from the seller above. The FC-710s are my goto bongs when pairing with my dynavaps.

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cybrguy

Putin is a War Criminal
I thought seriously about getting that one, but I went with Yinmin5's instead for a few reasons. https://www.dhgate.com/product/amazing-fuction-glass-bong-glass-water-pipe/474981921.html Among them, I am a flower guy and prefer a female joint. I also don't really get the reason for the glass bubble at the bottom that holds water (adding to the weight) without any obvious benefit. If the vapor circulated through it maybe, but it doesn't look like it does from the vid. I would rather have thicker glass at the bottom. And thirdly, prior to this piece I haven't heard of this vendor and tend to go with vendors I know like Steven and Yingmin5 and Sunshine store.
This piece does have the advantage of being cheaper, but not cheaper enough to overrule my other objections. It hasn't arrived yet so I don't yet know how it will actually perform, but I will certainly share that after I get it.
 

LesPlenty

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Auber RDK 200B w/ dnail slim and sic halo.
I have the exact set up and really like it on my 12"Straight Fab Egg (fuck the price has gone up nearly 20%),
https://www.dhgate.com/product/14inch-glass-water-pipes-glass-bongs-with/402453021.html?
skuid=370443677349281792#mfavit-12-null

I am still looking at the gooseneck rattle can from Stevenimz for use with my Halo though.:tup:

In truth, since I am hoping to use it hand held, I doubt it will be a problem.
I pulled on mine flat out without a vape in it and still no splash up the mouthpiece pipe due to the perc set up working as a shield.:2c:

@cybrguy those 710 pumps have all that water for extra weight to steady it when an enail is attached? They also have a very thin mouthpiece glass, the same as the D020-d now has and is the reason why I do not recommend the D020 series anymore, they just do not feel solid like they used to.
 
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Ramahs

Fucking Combustion (mostly) Since February 2017
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I like the look of stevenlmzs neck wonder which would splash up more

So, I take it that the choices are either crookedly tilted inwards bowl, or crookedly tilted outwards bowl? Both are crooked as fuck.
If those are the best pictures they had of their best units...then I can't imagine how crooked the stock units must be.
 

CalyxSmokr

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I have the exact set up and really like it on my 12"Straight Fab Egg (fuck the price has gone up nearly 20%),
https://www.dhgate.com/product/14inch-glass-water-pipes-glass-bongs-with/402453021.html?
skuid=370443677349281792#mfavit-12-null

I am still looking at the gooseneck rattle can from Stevenimz for use with my Halo though.:tup:


I pulled on mine flat out without a vape in it and still no splash up the mouthpiece pipe due to the perc set up working as a shield.:2c:

@cybrguy those 710 pumps have all that water for extra weight to steady it when an enail is attached? They also have a very thin mouthpiece glass, the same as the D020-d now has and is the reason why I do not recommend the D020 series anymore, they just do not feel solid like they used to.
would that egg be good with draw restriction like an enano or not enough chug?
 
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Ramahs

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I really want a rattlecan, but these pics with all the super-duper crooked parts are keeping me from buying one.

What's the original brand-name model that these knock-offs were inspired to clone? Maybe I should just spend a bit more and go with that.
 
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LesPlenty

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would that egg be good with draw restriction like an enano or not enough chug?
I only use it for dabbing, I like my VA Rattle Can from Yinmin5 with my WiidScents...a lot, don't let the picture worry you if it is not straight and not to your satisfaction, you are covered.

So, I take it that the choices are either crookedly tilted inwards bowl, or crookedly tilted outwards bowl?
I messaged Yinmin5 about the wonky lookung picture and they said it was just the angle of the camera when the shot was taken. I said surely they could put up a better picture but they did not change it.:mental:
My example and a couple others that I know of are all great, not crooked at all, but I am sure there was a link somewhere to the original, someone will no doubt chime in soon, I think it had a 14mm male fitting from memory.:tup:
 

MoltenTiger

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I really want a rattlecan, but these pics with all the super-duper crooked parts are keeping me from buying one.

What's the original brand-name model that these knock-offs were inspired to clone? Maybe I should just spend a bit more and go with that.
The original design was pioneered by ‘Steve Bates & Worm’, beginning as a big external diffusion pump, then using the same water action concept a smaller internalised version was born.

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These sell for $160-450 USD.

The concept is to reduce the dry volume in an oil rig whilst maximising water contact, similar to how recyclers have become a standard, the diffusion pump is a staple design.

The FC-710 is a copy of the smaller internal diffusion pump, I believe the design was pushed to Stevenlmz79 on DHGate by @blankrider http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/open-source-glass-thread.16915/
At the time intricate pieces were rarer and most Chinese shops were slinging ROOR knock offs. I guess the likes of Mobius and Mothership were just starting to redefine the production and marketing game, so this Bates and Worm piece really represents a pivotal design.

It became extremely popular and the work producing it is one reason the momentum of China glass gained such inertia.

Beyond this service of caring and sharing, where IP is stolen and a small operator and larger community is granted a chance to benefit, bigger industry profiteers understood the potential and obtained the license to reproduce the Bates and Worm design more professionally.

Grav Labs started making a really clean version that goes for upwards of $99 USD
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Probably in part due to the inferior knock-offs, and Grav Labs own product diversification, this piece seems quite hard to find in-stock now.

@Baron23 did you sell yours? Re: https://forum.vapelife.com/discussion/725/gravlabs-bates-x-worm-internal-diffuser-pump (nice write up btw) [edit, looks like the internal has been passed on]
 
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