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FlyingLow

Team NO SLEEP!
Not sure why rules on this forum never evolve with the times, probably because there is a policy that rules are not to be discussed...

It makes absolutely no sense that a picture is not allowed if it has a logo, but people post links all the time with the ripoff's name directly in the title (Mobius Matrix, Seed Of Life, RooR, etc).

EVERYTHING is a clone of another brand, should not all fakes be given the same treatment?
Just because there is no logo displayed on the glass itself, does it make it any less of a ripoff?

If we are to treat all things fairly, if a ripoff link has the brand names in the title, they should not be allowable either.
 
FlyingLow,

Vaporware

Well-Known Member
It’s very hard to pass off an unlabeled knock-off as an original to someone who does research, but if you slap a logo on it...

It’s like buying a TV that’s a copy of a big name with no label or ACME TV vs Sony or whatever they copied the design from. If it’s a labeled counterfeit rather than just a copy it may fool the original buyer and/or anyone they sold it to. It’s just not nice to the people who built those brand names or to people who may not know what they’re buying.

I know most people here wouldn’t do this, but if you bought a labeled glass piece for $500 and it turned out to be a counterfeit copy you could have ordered for $50 on DHGate, I’m sure you wouldn’t be happy.

When it’s just the text in the name I look at it more like products in a grocery store that say “compare to product X or brand Y”. Maybe they should be more clear sometimes, but I think it’s a different issue.

Anyway, I don’t make the rules, just trying to clarify them since it seemed like some people weren’t sure about them. :peace: :)
 
Not sure why rules on this forum never evolve with the times, probably because there is a policy that rules are not to be discussed...

It makes absolutely no sense that a picture is not allowed if it has a logo, but people post links all the time with the ripoff's name directly in the title (Mobius Matrix, Seed Of Life, RooR, etc).

EVERYTHING is a clone of another brand, should not all fakes be given the same treatment?
Just because there is no logo displayed on the glass itself, does it make it any less of a ripoff?

If we are to treat all things fairly, if a ripoff link has the brand names in the title, they should not be allowable either.
Hmm ... nah. Disagree 100%
 
Mr. Gweilo 420,

Stu

Maconheiro
Staff member
Not sure why rules on this forum never evolve with the times, probably because there is a policy that rules are not to be discussed...
Rules do evolve here. In fact this very topic was discussed at length by the staff and we decided on what we consider to be counterfeit or not. Regarding the policy not to discuss rules, well that's not quite accurate. We don't allow public discussion about staff decisions, but you can ask us about the rules any time you like. I'm here all the time and would be more than happy to explain our rules in greater detail if you like.

As to the rule we have about glass, it's basically this:

1. We don't allow links to products that are counterfeit.

2. We consider labeled counterfeit glass to be "counterfeit" for our purposes here on the forum.

If anyone would like any more info about it, feel free to hit me up.

Thanks.

:peace:
 

MGG

Well-Known Member
I was wondering if anyone had any experience with stevenmlz79's personal website
popularglass.

I tried ordering off there and my card got declined 3 times even though i put the details in perfectly.
I've heard other people on reddit use it but I can't find any word of it on FC?

The site seemed kind of sketchy to me at a cursory glance.
 

Azn2101

Well-Known Member
I was wondering if anyone had any experience with stevenmlz79's personal website
popularglass.

I tried ordering off there and my card got declined 3 times even though i put the details in perfectly.
I've heard other people on reddit use it but I can't find any word of it on FC?

The site seemed kind of sketchy to me at a cursory glance.

Hey man,

I bought a Rattle Can off Popularglass.com as opposed to DHGate because....I guess it seemed safer? But I know as much about internet security as the anti-virus program I pay for tells me lol. I have not had any activity on the Credit Card used for the transaction since...and hope it stays that way =)

What method of payment are you trying?
 

MGG

Well-Known Member
Hey man,

I bought a Rattle Can off Popularglass.com as opposed to DHGate because....I guess it seemed safer? But I know as much about internet security as the anti-virus program I pay for tells me lol. I have not had any activity on the Credit Card used for the transaction since...and hope it stays that way =)

What method of payment are you trying?

Trying credit card, this site has no real security on it from the looks of it to me.
Hope to hear back from steven soon about it not accepting my card >_<*
 

LesPlenty

Well-Known Member
Company Rep
Stick with DHGate, they are safe and keep your payment from the seller until you say all is OK. I went to use his site as it said he has PayPal, after all the registering crap I sent them a message saying I could not work out how to use PayPal and was told...'Oh, we don't have that option anymore'. Fucking useless, not worth the $1 to $2 saving:myday:
 

Azn2101

Well-Known Member
Knowing that I would've gone through DH. Thanks @LesPlenty. Dropping knowledge wherever you go and seriously, Thank you buddy :rockon:. This is another reason that this LMZ Rattle Can should be a fairly well centered, straight stem that's also made to correct specification for the water level cause I saved him the trouble lol.

TL;DR What's the Shipping time from SteveLMZ's home site (I'm guessing the same origin of shipping if I were to use DHGate) to the West Coast using their "Free Shipping" Option?

I live on the West Coast and am on a literal home quarantine from society for 7-21 days and can't go "in places where others frequent or pass through or group areas or touch anything in public IF I ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO GO OUT" and was wondering what the average shipping time is for SteveLMZ's products to ship out when choosing the "Free Shipping" option.

The mailboxes are grouped in 5's so it wouldn't be responsible to possibly infect 5 others to go out and check every day for the device if the Mailman is not feeling up to leaving the package behind my gate, but it would also suck to get the package stolen you know?

I ordered it a week ago today but it probably didn't go out until Tuesday since last Monday was a holiday. Just trying to get a feel as I have a few important packages coming in soon and can't (responsibly) go outside to get them.

I wanted to say My Bad to everyone cause my posts are like an article long. I usually end up getting my posts merged if I don't think it out or take time writing it.
 

Madri-Gal

Child Of The Revolution
Knowing that I would've gone through DH. Thanks @LesPlenty. Dropping knowledge wherever you go and seriously, Thank you buddy :rockon:. This is another reason that this LMZ Rattle Can should be a fairly well centered, straight stem that's also made to correct specification for the water level cause I saved him the trouble lol.

TL;DR What's the Shipping time from SteveLMZ's home site (I'm guessing the same origin of shipping if I were to use DHGate) to the West Coast using their "Free Shipping" Option?

I live on the West Coast and am on a literal home quarantine from society for 7-21 days and can't go "in places where others frequent or pass through or group areas or touch anything in public IF I ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO GO OUT" and was wondering what the average shipping time is for SteveLMZ's products to ship out when choosing the "Free Shipping" option.

The mailboxes are grouped in 5's so it wouldn't be responsible to possibly infect 5 others to go out and check every day for the device if the Mailman is not feeling up to leaving the package behind my gate, but it would also suck to get the package stolen you know?

I ordered it a week ago today but it probably didn't go out until Tuesday since last Monday was a holiday. Just trying to get a feel as I have a few important packages coming in soon and can't (responsibly) go outside to get them.

I wanted to say My Bad to everyone cause my posts are like an article long. I usually end up getting my posts merged if I don't think it out or take time writing it.
Goodness! I hope you get to feeling better. I'd offer helpful suggestions, but I'm sure they wouldn't be helpful, you'd have to explain why they wouldn't work in real and actual circumstances, and I really just mean to convey, I hope you feel better soon.
 

Azn2101

Well-Known Member
Goodness! I hope you get to feeling better. I'd offer helpful suggestions, but I'm sure they wouldn't be helpful, you'd have to explain why they wouldn't work in real and actual circumstances, and I really just mean to convey, I hope you feel better soon.

Thanks man, it's C. Diff (Gastro intestinal infection) and it's in that .1% of bacteria most hand sanitizer and cleaning products don't work on and lives on surfaces for up to 4 months in normal cases. Unfortunately I was kinda Misdiagnosed but in their defense the symptoms of a "Blocked Intestinal Tract" are almost identical to the early onset of C. Diff. I just keep thinking about how much stuff I touched in and out of my house that can't be used in the 1:10 Bleach solution needed to clean the surfaces but it can take up to an hour for the bleach to fully kill the C. Diff spores. The FDA approved this new stuff specially designed for C. Diff but it's $120 for a 6 pack and you can't buy singles =/ but it kills the spores in minutes.

Looking back on it, the post was more about the inability to get the bubbler than the actual question but I really do appreciate the kindness.

Has anyone ordered to the West Coast off Popularglass or DHGate and have a time estimate? That would be super awesome. Thanks guys.
 

Madri-Gal

Child Of The Revolution
Thanks man, it's C. Diff (Gastro intestinal infection) and it's in that .1% of bacteria most hand sanitizer and cleaning products don't work on and lives on surfaces for up to 4 months in normal cases. Unfortunately I was kinda Misdiagnosed but in their defense the symptoms of a "Blocked Intestinal Tract" are almost identical to the early onset of C. Diff. I just keep thinking about how much stuff I touched in and out of my house that can't be used in the 1:10 Bleach solution needed to clean the surfaces but it can take up to an hour for the bleach to fully kill the C. Diff spores. The FDA approved this new stuff specially designed for C. Diff but it's $120 for a 6 pack and you can't buy singles =/ but it kills the spores in minutes.

Looking back on it, the post was more about the inability to get the bubbler than the actual question but I really do appreciate the kindness.

Has anyone ordered to the West Coast off Popularglass or DHGate and have a time estimate? That would be super awesome. Thanks guys.
I've ordered off DHGate, and shipping ranged from 1 to 5 weeks. I am on the West Coast.
 

Madri-Gal

Child Of The Revolution
Indeed..........the last fifty is on buffalo back.
Buffalo or bison? I hear there is a difference, but when people tell me, I ignore them so I Still don't know. It's so frustrating.
Still, you get your "cheap, high-quality bubbler" untrampled, and in a timely manner, considering all of the beasts of burden employed in the delivery. That is all that matters.
 

Kanna_Kult

Well-Known Member
During an IG stream yesterday, Randy from puffitup said that with the change in tariffs there's not gonna be anymore China free packet delivery so he said if you want any China glass get it now before prices increase.
Damnit. That really sucks. Shipping would be probably 5x the cost of anything I ever order on there

EDIT: anyone know how soon this will take effect? There’s a few things I really wanna snag before it does
 
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Azn2101

Well-Known Member
Indeed..........the last fifty is on buffalo back.

Buffalo Back almost sounds like a nickname

"Hey did Ol' Buffalo Back bring in today's batch?"

I'm on weird antibiotics and a sleep schedule dictated by an illness so if this sounds crazy...I don't ALWAYS sound Crazy, but when I do, I drink Dos Equis. Just kidding I don't actually drink lol.
 

Azn2101

Well-Known Member
In my experience, from DHGate, always expect 3-5 weeks.

Awesome. It gives me some time to go out and get a good 18-14 reducer for the Rattle Can.

This will be the first actual piece of glass with a unique diffuser that I haven't spend a ton of cash on.

The last thing I bought was a HiSi Triple U Perc V1 when the first (or last, depending on which way you count them) U Perc protrudes into it's main chamber instead of all 3 in the tube.

Traded that for the Phire Matrix (mentioned later) because the draw restriction and the fact that after the 2nd Perc got dirty there was no way to fully clean it or even keep it filled above a certain point because the entrance holes were on the back of mine instead of the front so I had to almost tilt it forward for the full effect, which brings me to it's worst downfall. Even when dry and no downstem you couldn't breathe through it without eventually passing out the restriction was so strong. Add their unique (at the time circa 2011) downstem & honeycomb bowl and it was a nightmare.

Before that it was a authentic Sheldon Black built-in 6 Shooter with the huge "6 Shooter" Ash Chatcher with a huge diameter doenstem that some pieces use as interchangeable downstems/percs these days. $599

Got stride kicked into the rail on a bed frame and blasted to smithereens.

A Phire OG Matrix Perc. I don't know if it had a common name in 2011 so we called it a "Tire Perc." Was built like the D020 except with a Matrix Perc the actual size of one on a downstem about as wide as something you'd stick in your bong. Woke up one morning after a party and it was broken at the top and the Perc was fine but it was just a tube inside a large bubbler then. To this day "the stress cracks broke it"...someone used that shit lol.

Then a I wanna say another Phire Halo Perc, simple Beaker base with a downstem circling the beaker with slits all throughout it. Cool idea, bad concept for a 3' bong. Cant remember what I spent. Lent it to someone who was clutch surfing and my frie d never told me when the guy asked =/.

Then the first serious piece I bought was a Shorty ZOB with a build in downstem that had like a *Mushroom* Perc or something weird that had to be used at the perfect angle or it bubbled to high or didnt make full use of the downstems Perc. $400 and that thing is still at an Ex's house I believe. I remember being fixated on it thinking it was in storage lol.

A trip down memory lane...and a painful one at that, how much money have you guys spent on glass that's now in some landfill or the bottom on an ocean?
 
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