CBD Tincture...50 State Legal!

[Farid]

Considering how shoddy the CBD market is, I consider OL to be a blessing. I don't rely on CBD, but when I did have OL's product I was blown away at the quality. Until people back up the claims of high THC with tests, those are heavy accusations to be throwing around. Besides, considering the state of the CBD industry, I'd rather have a supplier selling high CBD products with traces of THC than have them sell hemp soup with no actives at all. I think we are blessed to have quality CBD suppliers, and they shouldn't be taken for granted.

 

[pixelx82]

Jesus, you guys are going to fuck this up for the rest of us. This is so much what is wrong with people, everything is someone else's fault. I'm really trying to stay in-bounds with regards to the rules of the forums, so I don't really want attack you guys, but damn.

@pixelx82 Why the hell did you order so much stuff? Why did you order what you did? Did you try calling Chris first and seeing what he recommended? Did you ask here for recommendations on what to order for your issues? What did the descriptions on the ETSY page say that made you think they would help your situation. Did you read through this whole thread? Several people have talked about this same issue in the past. Specifically how overdoing it with CBD is just is bad, if not worse than with THC (especially if you are treating anxiety issues).

You said -


Was this oil/concentrate or flowers. How did you medicate with it? IF it wasn't oil, then it is completely different, even if it was oil then the potency will vary based on tons of factors (how it is grow, stored, etc).

Seriously, for someone that has these horrible panic attacks, why would you order a bunch of unknown products off of an arts and crafts website and then take who knows how much. How long have you dabbed/used oils? What were you medicating with before this?

I get you are upset with mold on your bubble (if it is really mold). But you are over the top with wanting your money back on all of the other shit you bought. That is on you. You should have purchased the smallest amount you could of ONE product and then tested with the smallest amount you could do. Honestly I don't know why you are just using the tintures (why not?). SERIOUSLY, WHY DID YOU ORDER SO MUCH?

I'm going to stop here, as I'm probably already out of bounds here, if so sorry mods feel free to delete or remove parts if need be. This kind of shit just pisses me off.

Everything on Etsy claimed to be under .3 THC which is a complete lie. Wether you want to believe it or not that's a fact. I have let several people try them and they get high from it. What do you care how much I ordered? I was trying to find something that worked for me and they all claimed to be high CBD and under .3 THC legal in my state.

I'm fucking it up for you? I had no plan in ordering something illegal across us postal mail. I'm not looking for have any type of legal issues because Chris sent me something that was no true or congruent with what was being sold on his shop.

I also did try to speak with Chris many times. I spend months going back and forth with him on email and what he last sent me he specifically knew the reason of why I wanted his product to medicate with. And the bubble has DID have mold on it which I showed him a picture of and he confirmed.

I'm not trying to ruin anything for anyone. if you guys like the products that's fine have at it but its not for me and I should not be lied to about what is in the extracts. The numbers are completely off.

Chris even admitted to me in a message yesterday that the only thing that was truly lab tested was the curall tincture. So all those so called numbers that come with the products are completely made up or from a separate plant that was tested in the past.

If you went through what I went through 2 days ago you would understand but clearly you dont so please there is no need for any of the crap that you are writing.

If I wanted to get high I would of bought from my local dealers instead of getting something illegally mailed to me.

I have all the right to ask for a full refund on products I cannot use. especially when he offers a 100% money back satisfaction guarantee.

I dabbed many high CBD oils in Colorado including cup winning strains from some of the top dispensaries and hash makers from Pink House Labs. I have been experimenting with MJ since I was 17. This is not my first rodeo dude so chill out.

I simply have a condition I been trying to treat and based on his reviews other users state those oils did the trick. Well not for me all they did was get me fucked up to the point I thought I was going to die. And all I took was a tiny maybe .1 dab.

By the way I dont know how much cleared you need me to be when I tell you there was a fuck ton of mold on my bubble...Extremely not safe especially for someone that doesn't know any better and smokes this crap!

Mod note: posts merged

 

[momofthegoons]

Okay.. I can see I need to step in here. Things are getting heated.

First off @pixelx82 , you've stated your experience and opinion. But now you are tredding on this rule; the highlighted portion in particular:

Don’t attack products or companies. You can post your opinion, and you can criticize, but posts written to offend are not allowed.

• Please do not revisit an issue unless you have helpful information or constructive comments to add.
• Use of the forum to blackmail companies will not be tolerated.

For those of you who do not agree with pixelx82 or have had other experiences and feel there is a problem with the posts, please hit report rather than commenting on them.

 

[pixelx82]

Okay.. I can see I need to step in here. Things are getting heated.

First off @pixelx82 , you've stated your experience and opinion. But now you are tredding on this rule; the highlighted portion in particular:

Don’t attack products or companies. You can post your opinion, and you can criticize, but posts written to offend are not allowed.

• Please do not revisit an issue unless you have helpful information or constructive comments to add.
• Use of the forum to blackmail companies will not be tolerated.

For those of you who do not agree with pixelx82 or have had other experiences and feel there is a problem with the posts, please hit report rather than commenting on them.

My appologies I got a bit heated from someone direct response at me that was a bit out of line.

Ill simply update my progress as far as getting my refund as other members are wanting the same.

Again very sorry!

 

[cbdneeded]

I see this time and time again, it is really quite sad and ridiculous. Just because someone notes a bad experience with a CBD company, doesn't mean their heart is filled with malice and bad intent. You know?

Pixel if you can PM or post a screen shot about the testing, that would help.

I'm just sick of this bullshit. We are not discounting anyone's personal experience. If you value the work of a person, the product benefits you, this doesn't discount that.

The fact that as soon as someone is inflicted with a negative on the warrant of the work of one of these companies and they note that, a wave of backlash comes about in effort to defend and belittle those on the opposition, is just childish.

You know, if anything, bringing attention to these issues can help other people. Assuming the company is willing to be responsible and respectful to the individuals they are in effort to service, it can also help them to improve and resolve issues, potentially bettering their own self.

REGARDLESS OF ALL THAT SAID, OMEGA STATES THEY HAVE A 100% REFUND GUARANTEED, NO QUESTIONS ASKED....

The fact that they can't even honor that, regardless of what business, if you respect that they fall back on that, well I'm sorry, you must not stand on the most stable moral ground.

Also, me,hell even Pixel, have said A LOT OF POSITIVE about OL. For me with extensive use, I've come to conclude FOR ME PERSONALLY the negatives of which this product has ON ME(MYSELF) outweighs the pros.

 

[ChemiSwarm]

OL site is down again as of last night, looks like a other crash or hack. Yikes. Hoping that Chris is able to get things stabilized. Nothing on Etsy except Curall. Which I think is a smart move.. focusing on his core product. Seems like he may have been getting stretched a little too thin with all the products. I'd like to see him build things back up with Curall as the base of his business.

 

[Surferzine]

Long time lurker here. 2 year OL user. Is the new site up yet? I haven't received any email. Just making sure which site we are on.

 

[ChemiSwarm]

The new site was up, but got crashed or hacked multiple times and is now just a placeholder. Etsy is your best bet I think.

 

[Surferzine]

Thanks. I'm still holding on becuase I have really enjoyed the over the past couple years. I still have some of the first white widow oil and some awesome cannatonic right now

 

[Ace of Space]

I enjoyed some of his stuff too over the last year, but had quite a few things that were off too. So what about Omega's refund policy i see people talking about? No questions asked? I sent a lot of mails to Chris about the issue's, but he simply never answered. Eventually i gave up, it cost me a lot of money, and it made me think twice of ever ordering from small U.S. businesses ever again..

 

[ChemiSwarm]

As far as I can tell, Chris has just decided not to respond to any emails and tried to run his business without any customer service. When you get swamped with emails, it's tempting to just not respond and let them go, but it only makes the problem worse.

Curall is now off of the Etsy site - nothing on Etsy. Newest website down. What a shame, he really had potential. It looks like he is going out of business. He would probably do alright if he tried to have some sort of customer service and just sold a couple items on Etsy until he is able to grow. Scaling too fast is a huge killer of startup businesses, and it looks like that's what killed his business too.

I received my 2 orders from the Netherlands. Pretty good, not as good as Curall. Very dark green extracts. Products took a couple weeks to arrive after being shipped as was expected. One of them was sent in the most conspicuous bright purple packaging possible.. not sure if that is the best idea.

I would order from the Dutch guys again, but am going to try another vendor after these are done. I am trying to find a CBD tincture that is in between barely feeling it, and getting ripped out the frame.

I am going to try this next: https://www.etsy.com/listing/208619...ed-cbd-oil-tincture?ref=listing-shop-header-1

And if I can spare $240 I may order this 2500mg pure CO2 extracted oil: https://www.etsy.com/listing/249262348/cbd-oil-25-concentrate-2500mg-cbd-free?ref=market

I bet that would work in the special vape pen I got for CO2 oils before my OL order was cancelled. Looks like they also have a one gram version so I will actually try that first. It's only 250mg though.


If OL did really get hacked, it's unfortunate, but whoever hacked him would have to hack a bunch of other companies to stop the movement towards high quality CBD. It's safe to say that the market has elevated beyond the point of the crappy industrial hemp products that it began with. I think the market has also bypassed OL too, he's no longer the only player in town with high quality CBD at a reasonable price.

He will always be able to regain market share if he gets his business fundamentals in order though. Chris, if you're reading this, which I'm sure you're not: keep it simple - sell 1-3 products with good service and you will be back in the winner's circle in no time.

 

[Spinuch]

I ordered from OL the day he took everything down again. I asked if I should cancel and I got no answer. A day or two later A shipping label was created but nothing has been sent so I can't cancel the order easily anymore. Pretty weird what is going on over there. It's shady business if things are constantly going up and being taken down with no word from the company.

 

[ChemiSwarm]

It's definitely very inconsistent, which drives away even satisfied customers. My guess is if the shipping label was created then you're good. I think he would still refund you if he couldn't ship it.. his business seems out of control but I doubt he would take money and then not ship orders at all. You may be in for a wait though.

 

[bounce5]

It's definitely very inconsistent, which drives away even satisfied customers. My guess is if the shipping label was created then you're good. I think he would still refund you if he couldn't ship it.. his business seems out of control but I doubt he would take money and then not ship orders at all. You may be in for a wait though.

I ordered from OL Etsy site on black friday...they had a sale. They still had three products at that time. Today I got a notice that it was shipped and a tracking number from USPS. It says the product has left the facility and the expected shipped date is Friday Dec. 4. I'm happy with the quickness that it shipped out in.

But do agree that it is offputing that they put up things and suddenly either take off everything or run out too fast. And the lack of customer service, apparently. I hope that things improve. I think it is good advice that he limit the number of products until he stabilizes and get's the website and customer service in order.

 

[JohnnyHempseed]

Long time lurker, first time poster. I just wanted to add that I've had many similar negative experiences with OL and it's a shame. After this last fiasco, it's obvious that Chris is just making up excuses, for reasons unknown to me....seriously, how many times can someone be "hacked" ??? His sites are always up, they are never defaced and their Outlook email account is always live with fairly quick responses. He's never been hacked.

On top of that, the constant site changes are very confusing and seems like paranoia. Which site are we supposed to use now after bestcanna? I have no idea. I wish the guy would get some basic business education because he usually has an excellent product...I've never seen someone have so much trouble selling something that practically sells it self through word of mouth advertising.

The last order of wax that I received ( it took almost 3 weeks to arrive) had way too much THC and was definitely not even close to the posted ratios. So, I really have no idea what I'm actually getting and I doubt it's anywhere near the CBD levels I was expecting. It could also get me in deep legal trouble considering I'm obviously receiving an illegal concentrate from across state lines and not CBD concentrate that, at the very least, falls into a gray area

I apologize in advance for venting during my first post; I really hope Chris gets things sorted, like a professional would, before going live again.

 

[ChemiSwarm]

Long time lurker, first time poster. I just wanted to add that I've had many similar negative experiences with OL and it's a shame. After this last fiasco, it's obvious that Chris is just making up excuses, for reasons unknown to me....seriously, how many times can someone be "hacked" ??? His sites are always up, they are never defaced and their Outlook email account is always live with fairly quick responses. He's never been hacked.

On top of that, the constant site changes are very confusing and seems like paranoia. Which site are we supposed to use now after bestcanna? I have no idea. I wish the guy would get some basic business education because he usually has an excellent product...I've never seen someone have so much trouble selling something that practically sells it self through word of mouth advertising.

The last order of wax that I received ( it took almost 3 weeks to arrive) had way too much THC and was definitely not even close to the posted ratios.

Dude, I totally agree with you on all counts. I think your post is fine, it's legit criticism and not an attack on the company. My last order of wax had too much THC also - that was not what I'm looking for. If I want to get some THC wax I would just get it from someone I know locally, sure as hell would not get it sent to me via the mail. I ordered another alleged CBD extract from a different company and had the same problem. I took two hits and got completely ripped, not what I was expecting or wanting.

On the business side of it, people would kill for the kind of demand and repeat customers that he had/has. I grew my retail business from $0 to $45k net profit yearly in 2 years.. not a ton but enough to support me. I would run Chris's business for him so he could do what he does best, and I would accept payment entirely in Curall!

On a serious note though, it does make you wonder what's going on. All the different websites are weird.. why not just use the same one? I had to question whether or not he'd actually been hacked too. It reminded me of when a celebrity posts something racist or offensive on Twitter and then says they've been "hacked".

To the other prev. poster, glad that you were able to get your order shipped! I thought about ordering some Curall for the black friday sale but was hesitant after the way my previous orders were handled (one cancelled).

Instead, I just ordered the CO2 CBD oil and Cherry CBD tincture I mentioned in my last post. I will review them as soon as they arrive, but they look promising. I still would have ordered Curall instead if I knew for sure it would be delivered. But you nailed it Johnny Hemp Seed - it's about business fundamentals. Obviously the product is a hit and the market is there. But even within the last 3 months, he has more serious competitors with quality CBD products than he used to earlier this year. It was a mistake to think he could coast on service because of the quality of the product.. eventually someone would come along with quality product AND good service.

 

[JohnnyHempseed]

The other major issue is communication/customer service. Lets pretend that all of his websites and Outlook account were "hacked" - he still has access to PayPal and can contact all customers through any other email account, or post something on FB, Twitter, Etsy, etc. It doesnt matter. Lets pretend his office network went down... he acts as if he cant find another computer or phone with internet access within 1,000 miles. There is absolutely no excuse for what happened last month. There is always an excuse the minute sites go live.... we got "hacked," our landlord is kicking us out, our computers went down, we lost our artwork, PayPal suspended our account, etc., etc.

It would be a breath of fresh air if Chris communicated with his customers and was completely honest.

 

[farscaper]

complain all you want now everyone since hes gone dark its not like anyones gonna get to see the customer service anytime soon.

lets all wave goodbye to nice things ruined by stupid people.

rather than hear about more of the complaints about OL id rather hear about some other reputable outlets for cbd vape solutions and concentrates and such.

 

[cbdneeded]

Stupid people? Is that how you define those who have an experience that differs from that of your own? Stupid? I have an adverse reaction to a product therefore I am stupid?

OL's testings provided is not accurate,it is a fact. The fact they fall back on their guaranteed refund, it is nothing to but a lack of respect, but those being the victim in the scenario are stupid? Even pictures they use to advertise for sales, are often not alike.

Put your personal bias aside, stop retorting to the insults of a middle school lunch room and set aside your ignorance.

For the simple fact that there are pros and cons to his scenario, an individual reporting their negative experience does not discount all.

No one is complaining to complain, we're doing so to inform, and get to the bottom of this in a productive fashion. We're not on a malice laced vendetta with "your precious". So if you can put your ego aside, pack that with your bias, and your own affinity clouding your logic, you'd probably be able to dissect this by means of critical thought.

 

[bounce5]

"rather than hear about more of the complaints about OL id rather hear about some other reputable outlets for cbd vape solutions and concentrates and such."

I second that!

 

[JohnnyHempseed]

complain all you want now everyone since hes gone dark its not like anyones gonna get to see the customer service anytime soon.

lets all wave goodbye to nice things ruined by stupid people.

rather than hear about more of the complaints about OL id rather hear about some other reputable outlets for cbd vape solutions and concentrates and such.

I think you mean that we should wave goodbye to a business that is self destructing because of actions taken by the owner himself. It's no one else's fault.

I do agree that we should locate a solid, vetted and reliable source of CBD for us all.

 

[ChemiSwarm]

complain all you want now everyone since hes gone dark its not like anyones gonna get to see the customer service anytime soon.

lets all wave goodbye to nice things ruined by stupid people.

rather than hear about more of the complaints about OL id rather hear about some other reputable outlets for cbd vape solutions and concentrates and such.

Maybe you missed my previous posts where I mentioned several. Any business that provides terrible service is going to have people talking about it online.

The only person who ruined Chris's business is Chris. Your comment is unhelpful and insulting, and I would ask the mods to delete it.

If you want to see other CBD sources mentioned, don't be lazy and just read the last few pages of posts, I've reviewed several and ordered several more.

 

[nosmoking]

Maybe you missed my previous posts where I mentioned several. Any business that provides terrible service is going to have people talking about it online.

The only person who ruined Chris's business is Chris. Your comment is unhelpful and insulting, and I would ask the mods to delete it.

If you want to see other CBD sources mentioned just read the previous posts, I've reviewed several and ordered several more.

If you could recap with some of the ones you tried and your experiences including negative experiences that would be awesome. I lurk this thread and tried the OL products but I am very new to CBD wax and would love to know more about which companies to stay away from and which to try. There are other CBD suppliers mentioned in this thread, however my read through eluded me to believe that OL was the only game in town when I purchased some CBD wax in October. Now it sounds like there are others out there but they are lacking reviews. The more you can elaborate on your experiences the better.

 

[stickstones]

@DieHard - How does the stuff we sampled in Miami compare to OL? Can I go with what we got there, or is OL in a different league I need to try?

 

[farscaper]

Stupid people? Is that how you define those who have an experience that differs from that of your own? Stupid? I have an adverse reaction to a product therefore I am stupid?

OL's testings provided is not accurate,it is a fact. The fact they fall back on their guaranteed refund, it is nothing to but a lack of respect, but those being the victim in the scenario are stupid? Even pictures they use to advertise for sales, are often not alike.

Put your personal bias aside, stop retorting to the insults of a middle school lunch room and set aside your ignorance.

For the simple fact that there are pros and cons to his scenario, an individual reporting their negative experience does not discount all.

No one is complaining to complain, we're doing so to inform, and get to the bottom of this in a productive fashion. We're not on a malice laced vendetta with "your precious". So if you can put your ego aside, pack that with your bias, and your own affinity clouding your logic, you'd probably be able to dissect this by means of critical thought.

why did you assume I was referring to you? I wasn't...

I think you mean that we should wave goodbye to a business that is self destructing because of actions taken by the owner himself. It's no one else's fault.

I do agree that we should locate a solid, vetted and reliable source of CBD for us all.

poor customer service and angry vindictive customers can be equally devastating to a business... im not assuming any of those people reside on fc in this thread... but many things in life are possible... things were not always as they are now... and its sad to think that it was once much better.

Maybe you missed my previous posts where I mentioned several. Any business that provides terrible service is going to have people talking about it online.

The only person who ruined Chris's business is Chris. Your comment is unhelpful and insulting, and I would ask the mods to delete it.

If you want to see other CBD sources mentioned, don't be lazy and just read the last few pages of posts, I've reviewed several and ordered several more.

I did miss it. apologies... whos assuming what here? who is insulting who?

If you could recap with some of the ones you tried and your experiences including negative experiences that would be awesome. I lurk this thread and tried the OL products but I am very new to CBD wax and would love to know more about which companies to stay away from and which to try. There are other CBD suppliers mentioned in this thread, however my read through eluded me to believe that OL was the only game in town when I purchased some CBD wax in October. Now it sounds like there are others out there but they are lacking reviews. The more you can elaborate on your experiences the better.

this would be helpful... instead of kicking my opinion around...

pots and kettles.