chillAtGVC
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This is the correct link: https://2fast4buds.com/news/the-pot...tics-in-revolutionizing-the-cannabis-industry
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Radwin Bodnic
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You will never get me eat triploids oysters or trouts, because they are always associated with intensive farming practices. (And most of them are of a lower quality than their diploid counterparts).
I suppose triploidism was inevitable for cannabis since it's been the gold standard for seedless watermelons, bananas, grapes, tomatoes, etc. for many decades.
The AF I just grew on my back porch only yielded ~1.5 ounces. Some folks claim they get 5+ ounces. Maybe these little plants will be able to yield twice as much in 5-10 years.
Edit: Sorry, the link is not functioning. Here's a pic of the first page so you can get the general idea.
But the use of triploids genetics in the cannabis industry looks really promising. I'm sure it would suit well extensive farming and home growing. Curious to see what kind of product it will produce...
JBone65
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"Blue" Texas cities are being sued by the (corrupt?) Texas AG for doing the right thing, as demanded by a majority of tax payers via the Constitution, petitions and the ballot box. My son can attest, many rural Texas county courts are busy capitalizing on stoners. These are the areas that might use some sort of breath analyzer to increase revenue, based on the assumption that driving under the influence of cannabis is similar to alcohol.
The race for control of the government is red hot and getting hotter. Will it be another blue wave in favor of liberty? Are we sliding toward an East European style dystopian future? I'm old but I fear for future generations if so many Americans would consider moving away from a straight up (albeit corruptible) democracy. 🫣
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Photonic
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Not sure how I feel about triploids yet... 
You could try different varieties of autoflower that produce more, try growing higher plant counts, start earlier in the season and grow two outdoor harvests, or switch to photo period or fast flowering genetics of more production is needed.
Good luck!
Autoflowers can't be vegged longer to make a larger plant, so they are limited in how much they can produce when compared to most photo period plants. Growing indoors under intense light at 20+ hours a day can improve autoflower yield significantly. That said, autoflower traits, even with lower yields, can be an advantage outdoors for some people, especially in certain climates.AF I just grew on my back porch only yielded ~1.5 ounces. Some folks claim they get 5+ ounces. Maybe these little plants will be able to yield twice as much in 5-10 years.
You could try different varieties of autoflower that produce more, try growing higher plant counts, start earlier in the season and grow two outdoor harvests, or switch to photo period or fast flowering genetics of more production is needed.
Good luck!
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Cannabiker
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Sure, we already knew this, but it's great to see it out in the mainstream (if you consider "I Fucking Love Science" mainstream). I love this explanation for our cannabis fondness:
"Overall, results indicated that chronic cannabis users tend to consume the drug for the simple reason that it feels good and is
'associated with a host of increased positive emotions such as awe, inspiration, and gratitude, as well as reduced stress and fear.'"
www.iflscience.com
"Overall, results indicated that chronic cannabis users tend to consume the drug for the simple reason that it feels good and is
'associated with a host of increased positive emotions such as awe, inspiration, and gratitude, as well as reduced stress and fear.'"
Getting Stoned All The Time Doesn’t Make You Lazy
"Because I got high" is no longer an excuse.
www.iflscience.com
JBone65
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Kamala Harris Is The First Major Presidential Candidate To Back Marijuana Legalization (Op-Ed)
“Harris’s trajectory from marijuana legalization skeptic to proponent mirrors that of many Americans.” By Paul Armentano, NORML Like most Americans, Vice President Kamala Harris has evolved on marijuana. In 2010, when she was San Francisco’s district attorney, Harris urged voters to reject a...
www.marijuanamoment.net
Could it be.....common sense?
I am color blind, but I can still tell the difference between red and blue states when it comes to weed reform.
Gunky
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Keep in mind that if a legalization bill is to pass Congress, which is the best way to do it (if Biden or Harris act unilaterally to reschedule it the next president can reverse it), we probably need Democratic control of both the Senate and House and probably a Democratic president too. The repubs have been blocking it for years. Do some homework and you will see I am correct in this.
Gunky
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From the Washington Post just now, after Harris selected Walz as running mate:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/08/06/harris-walz-vp/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/08/06/harris-walz-vp/
I am not trying to turn this political but it is important for all of us to be under no illusions about which party supports cannabis legalization and which does not.
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This is simply not true. Biden has never ever been pro-legalization, and you cannot produce one single source to back up your claim. Despite this, he has pardoned cannabis offenders, and moved to re-classify cannabis to Schedule III.
One clue that you are wrong would be the headline on the article you are responding to, which points out that "Kamala Harris Is The First Major Presidential Candidate To Back Marijuana Legalization (Op-Ed)". The op-ed was written by "the deputy director for NORML, the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws", so he would tend to know what he is talking about on this topic.
Obviously folks have different opinions about politics, but you don't get to make up your own facts. And we will have to agree to disagree as to whether or not Democrats "lie as much as the other team".
One indisputable fact is that neither Vice President Harris nor Governor Walz has ever been convicted of 34 felony counts of criminally falsifying business records, unlike former President Trump. And neither Harris nor Walz is currently appealing a half billion dollar civil fraud judgement, unlike former President Trump. Nor are either of them the CEO of an organization that has been convicted of "multiple charges of criminal tax fraud and falsifying business records connected to a 15-year scheme to defraud tax authorities", unlike former President Trump. So we do know that Donald "Baby Hands" Trump lies an awful lot.
Gunky
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I agree with you but lets try to avoid political issues outside of legalization, otherwise the mods start deleting things.
Octavia
No thoughts, head empty
Also don’t forget that the DEA is I believe still attempting to reclassify weed from schedule 1 (same tier as most illegal drugs) to schedule 3 (same tier as tylenol) and that Biden pardoned a large number of nonviolent first time offenders who were incarcerated for possession of weed.
There still are political headwinds with the senate which requires 60 votes to do anything nowadays, andthe house recently added a rider to a budget bill that attempted to prevent dea funds from being used to analyse the reclassification of marijuana may have misread, looks like it may have been for Washington D.C. rather than whole US Source. Assuming the overturning of the Chevron doctrine doesn’t throw a spanner in the DEA’s attempts to deregulate marijuana, we will hopefully hear more soon!
Will dig my sources up and add them below in a bit.
Pardons:
https://420vapezone.com/president-biden-pardons-cannabis-possessions/ (very light on details)
Reclassification:
www.justice.gov
There still are political headwinds with the senate which requires 60 votes to do anything nowadays, and
Will dig my sources up and add them below in a bit.
Pardons:
https://420vapezone.com/president-biden-pardons-cannabis-possessions/ (very light on details)
Reclassification:
Justice Department Submits Proposed Regulation to Reschedule Marijuana
The Justice Department today announced that the Attorney General has submitted to the Federal Register a notice of proposed rulemaking initiating a formal rulemaking process to consider moving marijuana from a schedule I to schedule III drug under the Controlled Substances Act (CSA).
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florduh
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Anyone who voted for Biden in 2020 hoping to get legalization was a rube. From his 2020 primary campaign:
Biden has always been a Drug Warrior. Frankly, his administration was better on weed than I was expecting, given his shitty track record.
While I'm skeptical of Harris when it comes to weed, she selected Walz for her running mate. Walz recently signed an adult use legalization bill. This forces Kamala to defend legalization.
Their opponents are a mixed bag. JD Vance says he's in favor of States Rights, but voted against allowing cannabis companies access to banking. He's also one of these dummies who cries about the smell.
Trump is totally bought by the widow of this piece of shit:
www.forbes.com
The Adelson family own casinos. They believe booze and gambling should be the only legal vices. Trump started singing a different tune on a particular foreign policy issue as soon as Miriam Adelson's check cleared in the Spring. So, if she wants a crackdown on weed, I don't see Trump saying No.
Biden has always been a Drug Warrior. Frankly, his administration was better on weed than I was expecting, given his shitty track record.
While I'm skeptical of Harris when it comes to weed, she selected Walz for her running mate. Walz recently signed an adult use legalization bill. This forces Kamala to defend legalization.
Their opponents are a mixed bag. JD Vance says he's in favor of States Rights, but voted against allowing cannabis companies access to banking. He's also one of these dummies who cries about the smell.
Trump is totally bought by the widow of this piece of shit:
The Last Drug Warrior: Sheldon Adelson Was The Final Billionaire To Fight Marijuana Legalization. And He Lost.
Sheldon Adelson, who died Monday at 87, was the last political megadonor willing to oppose marijuana legalization.
www.forbes.com
The Adelson family own casinos. They believe booze and gambling should be the only legal vices. Trump started singing a different tune on a particular foreign policy issue as soon as Miriam Adelson's check cleared in the Spring. So, if she wants a crackdown on weed, I don't see Trump saying No.
Gunky
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Also, it's quite important to check and see if your Representative and Senators in Congress are among the leadership of a party which refuses to allow bills liberalizing cannabis use, sale, banking for the industry, etc. to come to the floor and get a vote. Or your rep or Senator votes against such bills. You have the option of voting them out!
Polarbearboy
Tokin' Away Since 1968
It is absolutely true that we have our first Vice Presidential candidate ever who has supported and personally signed into law a bill to legalize our friend, companion, lover, and hobby. This is big big big news in the cannabis community.
Almost as big news as our first Presidential candidate who favors legalization. It is true that Harris has not yet had the opportunity to sign a legalization bill, but she has said she will do so.
So, if she is elected, and the Dems retain the Senate, and win the House back, all of which is looking fairly likely, cannabis will be legal.
If those three things don't happen, people will continue to go to jail for reefer.
I'm sure some will want to post to explain why cannabis users should vote for the pro-criminalization party, and for candidates who want to put them in jail, and look forward to hearing what they have to say.
So, if she is elected, and the Dems retain the Senate, and win the House back, all of which is looking fairly likely, cannabis will be legal.
If those three things don't happen, people will continue to go to jail for reefer.
I'm sure some will want to post to explain why cannabis users should vote for the pro-criminalization party, and for candidates who want to put them in jail, and look forward to hearing what they have to say.
Gunky
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Well hardly any politicians are advertising that they want to put people in jail for weed. You seldom find anybody standing up and saying it should be criminalized. What they do is stall and stonewall. They refuse to allow a vote to come up. They demand further study. They vote against measures that legalize or decriminalize. They trot out supposed experts who warn of dangers...
Politicians seldom want to talk about their very unpopular policy positions.
If you are not pro-legalization, you want to put people in jail for cannabis. If you didn't want to put folks in jail, you would be pro-legalization. Simple as that.
One party is pro-legalization, one party is pro-locking people up for cannabis.
Gunky
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This is feel-good rhetoric but I'm not certain it is quite so black and white. Some people are opposed to "legalization" in various formats. They might think medical is ok but recreational, no, etc. I'm not defending this, just saying it is very easy to see numerous viewpoints involving trying to reduce harm caused by dependency, yada yada. So they think 'full' legalization causes problems, etc.
Even Walz, whom I commend for signing on to legal in Minnesota, arrived at a 10% tax or something. As a guy who has grown stuff on and off for many years it stings a little bit when the government flips from stomping and imprisoning people for dope and suddenly say it's ok, adds a bunch of poorly designed limits, and demands 10%. Yeah right. So unrealistic! Ends up spurring the black market.
florduh
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Unfortunately, I don't think Republican politicians can support legalization even if they wanted to. Their entire base mainlines Fox News. For the past few years Fox has been telling viewers that weed turns users into gay violent criminals.
www.ganjapreneur.com
The "Local Government is the Best Government" people also take action against local governments who opt for a slightly less stupid approach to cannabis.
www.foxnews.com
And a governor who was in the running to be the VP candidate refused to sign a cannabis bill the people's representatives passed into law.
www.foxnews.com
Another governor (and puppy murderer) on the VP short list overturned voters who approved a ballot measure to legalize.
www.marijuanamoment.net
This isn't even a new phenomenon. Nixon convened a taskforce of experts to determine how to handle marijuana. Their conclusion: immediately decriminalize.
But Nixon explicitly told his advisors they will instead lean into the Drug War. Why? Because criminalizing weed means they can put his perceived political enemies in prison. Namely, blacks, Jews, and Hippies.
I do have a problem with our cannabis tax structures. But what do you think the black market looks like in Hillbilly States where possessing an ounce is a felony?
Worst case in Adult use States with high taxes: there's now a thriving grey market. I find that better than an exclusively Black Market State. Felony Defense attorneys are expensive.
Laura Ingraham Cites Cannabis As Cause for Mass Shootings - Ganjapreneur
Fox News's Laura Ingraham, host of The Ingraham Angle, suggested in a recent televised segment that the rising use and cultural acceptance of cannabis is an
www.ganjapreneur.com
The "Local Government is the Best Government" people also take action against local governments who opt for a slightly less stupid approach to cannabis.
Texas AG Ken Paxton sues 5 cities over marijuana amnesty policies, cites drug's reported links to 'psychosis'
Texas AG Ken Paxton is suing "pro-crime extremists" in Austin, Denton, San Marcos, Killeen and Elgin for enacting policies against marijuana enforcement.
And a governor who was in the running to be the VP candidate refused to sign a cannabis bill the people's representatives passed into law.
Youngkin vetoes Virginia bills mandating minimum wage increase, establishing marijuana retail sales
Glenn Youngkin, governor of Virginia, vetoed bills on Thursday that would mandate a minimum wage increase and would allow recreational retail sales of marijuana.
Another governor (and puppy murderer) on the VP short list overturned voters who approved a ballot measure to legalize.
South Dakota Governor’s Push To Block Voter-Approved Marijuana Legalization Slammed In Campaign Ad
A top South Dakota lawmaker and Democratic gubernatorial candidate is taking incumbent Gov. Kristi Noem (R) to task over her opposition to marijuana legalization and the role her administration played in overturning a voter-approved cannabis initiative last year. With another statewide...
www.marijuanamoment.net
This isn't even a new phenomenon. Nixon convened a taskforce of experts to determine how to handle marijuana. Their conclusion: immediately decriminalize.
But Nixon explicitly told his advisors they will instead lean into the Drug War. Why? Because criminalizing weed means they can put his perceived political enemies in prison. Namely, blacks, Jews, and Hippies.
I do have a problem with our cannabis tax structures. But what do you think the black market looks like in Hillbilly States where possessing an ounce is a felony?
Worst case in Adult use States with high taxes: there's now a thriving grey market. I find that better than an exclusively Black Market State. Felony Defense attorneys are expensive.
If you do not want to legalize cannabis, you want it to stay criminalized. If you want cannabis criminalized, you want those laws enforced by locking up cannabis users, or cannabis suppliers, because that is what it means to have criminal penalties for doing something.
And of course it is likely that "'full' legalization" may create problems, but it is a simple fact that criminalization creates enormous, and pointless, harms, that are eliminated by erasing the historical mistake of cannabis prohibition. Even if you think cannabis use is a terrible thing, criminal penalties are not the solution to any problem that is alleged to be created by cannabis use.
I don't think there is a tax on the weed you grow yourself in any state. I agree that most states that have decriminalized have over-burdensome regulatory regimes, and overly high taxes. As far as i know, only NY has legalized public use of cannabis, which should be the bare minimum of anything called 'legalization" worthy of the name.
But you can hardly blame Walz or other progressive pro-legalization pols for this- in every case, these burdensome regulations, and high taxes, are demanded by the opposite team, the folks who are against legalization, and/or who want it to fail.
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Gunky
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When the "legalization" initiative came up for a vote a few years ago in California, I opposed it. It was a terrible law. We already had legal weed in the form of medical, which anybody could get by giving a doctor $35 or something and receiving a letter of recommendation. Illegal possession resulted in a modest fine. I opposed the initiative here at FC (look it up!) and all sorts of people told me I was wrong and a counter-revolutionary and shut up. At the time even Ed Rosenthal damned the initiative as a fraud and a scam. As it happens now everybody from Steve Deangelo on down agrees with me that the initiative was a disaster and fucked up the California cannabis industry something awful. Was I in favor of incarceration of cannabis growers, users, and sellers? Hell no. The world is more complicated than: in favor of incarceration or not. We have to be careful about tarring everybody with the same brush. A lot of people who are not into cannabis have absolutely no idea what is going on. That doesn't mean they favor incarceration.
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