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grampa_herb
Epstein didn't kill himself
Swallowed, Chewed and Drowned By Hippos – Strange Deaths by Africa’s Most Dangerous Animal
By: Justin Nobel | Date: Fri, May 10th, 2013
Marius Els, a South African farmer adored his pet hippo Humphrey. Then one day it killed him.
Jack Black channels a "mean girl". The Rock channels a meek, nerdy teen, Kevin Hart plays a great character. I laughed. If you don't expect too much, you'll be pleasantly surprised. Goofy kid film.
Marijuana linked to 'unbearable' sickness across US as use grows following legalisation
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...olorado-chicago-medicine-health-a8295491.html
The phrases "a very common problem " used in this article make me question the intent. You would think a concentrated diverse sample such as FC, "a very common problem" would be exposed.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...olorado-chicago-medicine-health-a8295491.html
The phrases "a very common problem " used in this article make me question the intent. You would think a concentrated diverse sample such as FC, "a very common problem" would be exposed.
looney2nz
Research Geek, Mad Scientist
Marijuana linked to 'unbearable' sickness across US as use grows following legalisation
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...olorado-chicago-medicine-health-a8295491.html
The phrases "a very common problem " used in this article make me question the intent. You would think a concentrated diverse sample such as FC, "a very common problem" would be exposed.
I haven't met one person with this, and I was the main moderator for ASA for a number of years when it was web-based (not FB and Twitter).
It sure SOUNDS alarming
cybrguy
Putin is a War Criminal
I haven't met anyone either, but a year or 2 ago there was someone in this newsgroup who had this or something similar with cannabis related nausea. The implication from some of the articles is that it may effect 30% or more of cannabis consumers, and I find that extremely hard to believe or (one would assume) I should have run into it in the real world and I have not...
It would be a very sad thing to develop after many years of smoking/vaping. Has anyone noticed any discussion about incidents of this with vaping or just with smoking?
It would be a very sad thing to develop after many years of smoking/vaping. Has anyone noticed any discussion about incidents of this with vaping or just with smoking?
TeeJay1952
Well-Known Member
I am down to micro dosing as my dementia progresses. I wake up already "dinged" and have very little room left for more. I don't mind it as I feel OK but it is like the Twilight Zone with they guy who just wants to read and breaks glasses. My monkey screams for more but if I do I swoon and nap.
Adobewan
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I've had an issue with this twice.
The symptoms are just as described, but I changed growers and haven't had the symptoms in years.
When I meet a new grower, I bring a mini-microscope. This will show whether the crystals are intact and clear, and if there are bugs, but it doesn't indicate the use of pesticides.
Perhaps, health officials should be investigating of "Pesticide Hyperemesis Syndrome" before removing gall bladders(they wanted mine but I managed to keep a tight grip on it!).
A theory regarding whether Jeff Sessions is an idiot:
Clearly parts of the guy's brain work, so why would someone with a mostly working brain be so boldly against science(most smart folk can't get away with that), unless the science didn't line up with that person's agenda. Influenced perhaps by the alcohol, big pharm, or private prison lobbies, if this person's suppressing the growth of the cannabis industry could potentially lead to more money, power, or position, I would think those are not the actions of an idiot, but a greedy Lilliputian.
The symptoms are just as described, but I changed growers and haven't had the symptoms in years.
When I meet a new grower, I bring a mini-microscope. This will show whether the crystals are intact and clear, and if there are bugs, but it doesn't indicate the use of pesticides.
Perhaps, health officials should be investigating of "Pesticide Hyperemesis Syndrome" before removing gall bladders(they wanted mine but I managed to keep a tight grip on it!).
A theory regarding whether Jeff Sessions is an idiot:
Clearly parts of the guy's brain work, so why would someone with a mostly working brain be so boldly against science(most smart folk can't get away with that), unless the science didn't line up with that person's agenda. Influenced perhaps by the alcohol, big pharm, or private prison lobbies, if this person's suppressing the growth of the cannabis industry could potentially lead to more money, power, or position, I would think those are not the actions of an idiot, but a greedy Lilliputian.
cybrguy
Putin is a War Criminal
Did you experience it just with combusting, or with vaping as well? If you were experiencing the same thing being described above, your example would suggest that they may be going about trying to understand this malady all wrong. Your data point would suggest that it probably isn't THC causing the issues, but potentially fertilizers or pesticides or even specific strains.
Somehow I suspect that the sample size of people effected by this may not be large enough to get the attention of researchers. But I think a person who experiences this with some cannabis and not others would be a useful source of research data, as well as a good test subject...
I think you are probably right that Sessions is not stupid even if he is ignorant. More importantly I think he is likely a moralist who believes that only his moral positions are correct and everyone else who feels differently are evil and should be punished. What better job than one that can force his moral views on others by trying to use the force of law to make others conform.
To me, that makes him the worst personality type one could possibly have for his job. Other than someone more like Donald Trump.
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nickdanger
Collector of Functional Art
There's a thread about this in Medical Discussions --
http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/cannabinoid-hyperemesis-syndrome.21048/page-16#post-1239275
There is some thought that it could be a compound in Neem that might be causing the reaction.
http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/cannabinoid-hyperemesis-syndrome.21048/page-16#post-1239275
There is some thought that it could be a compound in Neem that might be causing the reaction.
florduh
Well-Known Member
I've never heard of a single person in real life with Cannabis Hormesis Syndrome. Given an increasing number of medical users with heavy usage, I'd think I would've if this is a widespread problem. If an ER is getting thousands of cases of "marijuana poisoning", every local news show in the country would be harping on this.
I'm a simple person. If someone says one or two idiotic things, I'll give them a pass. If they continue to say idiotic things, I judge them to be an idiot. Jeff has said many idiotic things about cannabis. I do grant that he has to have a somewhat functioning brain to be an attorney, Senator, and now AG. But not being an idiot isn't a requirement for public office in America.
Jeff is heavily funded by the Private Prison industry. I do find it curious that he supports policies that would increase America's already embarrassing prison population. Personally, I think we should move towards publicly funding elections. Some will scoff at the cost, but I think ensuring our politicians work for the People, and not their corporate benefactors is worth the price.
If Jeff's dirty money dries up, maybe he'll chill and let us free the weed.
I'm a simple person. If someone says one or two idiotic things, I'll give them a pass. If they continue to say idiotic things, I judge them to be an idiot. Jeff has said many idiotic things about cannabis. I do grant that he has to have a somewhat functioning brain to be an attorney, Senator, and now AG. But not being an idiot isn't a requirement for public office in America.
Jeff is heavily funded by the Private Prison industry. I do find it curious that he supports policies that would increase America's already embarrassing prison population. Personally, I think we should move towards publicly funding elections. Some will scoff at the cost, but I think ensuring our politicians work for the People, and not their corporate benefactors is worth the price.
If Jeff's dirty money dries up, maybe he'll chill and let us free the weed.
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Adobewan
Well-Known Member
Vaping only. Hadn't smoked for years before my first instance.
looney2nz
Research Geek, Mad Scientist
flower or concentrate more favored?
Adobewan
Well-Known Member
At the time, Flower 75%, Concentrate 25%.
Tranquility
Well-Known Member
Not according to campaign reports.
https://www.opensecrets.org/members-of-congress/summary?cid=N00003062
Adobewan
Well-Known Member
Former House Speaker John Boehner joins cannabis board - CNNPolitics
https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/11/politics/boehner-cannabis-company-board/index.html
As long as the green(the root of all evil "green", not God's gift of "green") in it for them, they'll spin whichever way the $s lead them.
Is this the angriest emoji we have?
https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/11/politics/boehner-cannabis-company-board/index.html
As long as the green(the root of all evil "green", not God's gift of "green") in it for them, they'll spin whichever way the $s lead them.
Is this the angriest emoji we have?
Tranquility
Well-Known Member
Former House Speaker John Boehner joins cannabis board - CNNPolitics
https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/11/politics/boehner-cannabis-company-board/index.html
As long as the green(the root of all evil "green", not God's gift of "green") in it for them, they'll spin whichever way the $s lead them.
Is this the angriest emoji we have?
Sigh. We win one who was on the other side not too long ago and we're supposed to be angry?
It's like my first wife.
W: "My goodness this room is filthy!" she'd say.
ON: "Would you like me to clean it up?" I'd reply.
W: "Look at it, what do you think?"
ON: (Looking at it and not really seeing the problem.) "Should I get the vacuum?"
W: "Nooooooo!"
ON: "I'll start cleaning."
W: (Angrily) "I don't want you to clean it because I want you to, I want you to want to clean it."
Personally? I just want to win. We're now one step closer to winning. (Actually, because he will bring in money, lots more steps closer.)
His_Highness
In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king
Former House Speaker John Boehner joins cannabis board - CNNPolitics
https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/11/politics/boehner-cannabis-company-board/index.html
As long as the green(the root of all evil "green", not God's gift of "green") in it for them, they'll spin whichever way the $s lead them.
Is this the angriest emoji we have?
@OldNewbie - I'd be angry depending on the reason for the turn-around but I damn sure wouldn't turn away the help.
I mentioned the following in another thread where I saw the same info....
Were Boehner and Weld just holding the party line before and now that they no longer feel obligated can express their true beliefs OR were they offered enough money to change their views (and become pseudo lobbyists) OR did they really have an epiphany? I'm guessing it's the money.
If they were just holding to the party line then fuck em.
If they're doing it for money then fuck em.
If they had an epiphany then ... welcome aboard!
Adobewan
Well-Known Member
Good point @OldNewbie I should have prefaced with, "Good news but..."Sigh. We win one who was on the other side not too long ago and we're supposed to be angry?
It's like my first wife.
W: "My goodness this room is filthy!" she'd say.
ON: "Would you like me to clean it up?" I'd reply.
W: "Look at it, what do you think?"
ON: (Looking at it and not really seeing the problem.) "Should I get the vacuum?"
W: "Nooooooo!"
ON: "I'll start cleaning."
W: (Angrily) "I don't want you to clean it because I want you to, I want you to want to clean it."
Personally? I just want to win. We're now one step closer to winning. (Actually, because he will bring in money, lots more steps closer.)
@His_Highness expressed my sentiment more comprehensively.
I, too, want to win, but while I haven't really suffered due to prohibition, so many have that might not have, had politicians led with science rather than profit.
I think there's some room for anger there.
Tranquility
Well-Known Member
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/11/us/politics/boehner-cannabis-marijuana.html
While the announcement might be viewed as a sign that cannabis is becoming a big business that can afford to ally with prominent names from the world of politics, Mr. Boehner cast it as a genuine change of heart.
In a statement, he and William F. Weld, the former Massachusetts governor, who also joined the Acreage Holdings board, said “the time has come for serious consideration of a shift in federal marijuana policy.”
“I’m convinced de-scheduling the drug is needed so we can do research, help our veterans, and reverse the opioid epidemic ravaging our communities,” Mr. Boehner wrote on Twitter, referring to how the federal government classifies marijuana....
In a statement, he and William F. Weld, the former Massachusetts governor, who also joined the Acreage Holdings board, said “the time has come for serious consideration of a shift in federal marijuana policy.”
“I’m convinced de-scheduling the drug is needed so we can do research, help our veterans, and reverse the opioid epidemic ravaging our communities,” Mr. Boehner wrote on Twitter, referring to how the federal government classifies marijuana....
Silver420Surfer
Downward spiral
Sigh. We win one who was on the other side not too long ago and we're supposed to be angry?
It's like my first wife.
W: "My goodness this room is filthy!" she'd say.
ON: "Would you like me to clean it up?" I'd reply.
W: "Look at it, what do you think?"
ON: (Looking at it and not really seeing the problem.) "Should I get the vacuum?"
W: "Nooooooo!"
ON: "I'll start cleaning."
W: (Angrily) "I don't want you to clean it because I want you to, I want you to want to clean it."
Personally? I just want to win. We're now one step closer to winning. (Actually, because he will bring in money, lots more steps closer.)
I agree with you "a win is a win" here.
What I largely disagree with though is that company Acreage which holds 35 licenses for cannabis businesses in the U.S. THAT is bullshit and THAT is what everyone should be more concerned about. Those who have fought with blood, sweat, and tears, maybe even their freedom, will all be shut out from the Green Rush because what small biz can compete with giants like that. The barriers to opening a grow/processing/dispensary are to in favor of big money. But we should all rest assured knowing that Big Money always has the little guys interests at heart. /s
Good and bad news I guess.
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Tranquility
Well-Known Member
I know there are purists still out there who want cannabis to be grown by hand by friends down the street with no pesticides and known genetics and then handled with care by expert trimmers with some bubble hash of fine quality cleanly screened of part and the rest properly stored for sale. I want that too. Except that lots of people want that and the capacity is not there now; nor will it ever be--if every single other product in society is any guide.
Boehner is going to bring in money, respectability and political influence/access to "the movement". He reaches the half of society that is not in the cannabis car and knows how to make things happen. Anyone who does not like the fact he is coming on board is either a purist or who is not looking to have cannabis realistically available to the population.
I agree that whatever regulatory state control that results will not have the little guys interests at heart. That's going to be true no matter how much "big money" comes in. Classical liberals, such as myself, would prefer no regulation. True cannabis legalization. We know that's not going to happen because the left wants all that sweet, sweet cash for their permission and the right is coming around to understanding regulation reduces the harm of drug war policies AND the harm from the drug itself by using that sweet, sweet cash for mitigation.
Even if the big money comes in, I suspect there will be a niche market for the small farm, special care cannabis the purists want. It's just that they will have to pay for it. Mass production is going to make the price/quality more to the liking of the majority of the market. The luxury/connoisseur/no-additive market will still be there for the rest.
Adobewan
Well-Known Member
I didn't express my complete thoughts in my initial post. I applaud any shift in the right direction and a prominent opponent like Boehner is a score. My anger is ignited when these drug warriors shift only when it serves their financial interests. He fought against it when he could have been an instrument of change, bennifitting the many, but now that he's going to profit from it, it's time for a shift.
Pass the Tumms @cybrguy