Cannabis Hardware (formerly NewVape) FlowerPot Twax Vaporizer

[Enialis]

Don't know anything about temperature gauges, but I would think this would be a great thread in Ask FC. You'll open up the conversation to the expertise of the entire membership, not just those who follow this thread. Would make for an interesting discussion, & the rest of us would learn something.

Yea just thought I'd throw that in while I was thinking about it ill definitely ask there about them.

Anyone else here using an auber thats dug into the settings at all? There should be a common PSL number for the vrods just like there are for dnails with some slight variation but I don't think newvape has done the math since there controllers don't have that setting.

Would be interested in adjusting some other settings once I've brought it up to temp if someone has any first hand experience doing that, right now I'm just digging through old posts but its hit or miss if it's relevant info

 

[Summer]

@Enialis , you might gain some insight from reading here forward ():

This was the discussion pre-release of the auber 300B model to it's release.

Auber Enail Discussion

I got it in November. So about 7 months. The oxidation is kinda uneven... Thanks for that, just curious how quickly a coil can go belly up. Debating picking up a backup.

fuckcombustion.com

Just realized @EmDeemo's account is inactive & he's been MIA since 9/2020. Anyone know what happened to him? He's missed.

 

[RustyOldNail]

@Enialis , you might gain some insight from reading here forward ():

This was the discussion pre-release of the auber 300B model to it's release.

Auber Enail Discussion

I got it in November. So about 7 months. The oxidation is kinda uneven... Thanks for that, just curious how quickly a coil can go belly up. Debating picking up a backup.

fuckcombustion.com

Just realized @EmDeemo's account is inactive & he's been MIA since 9/2020. Anyone know what happened to him? He's missed.

I guess Enials missed my post above with 2 links, if read from the first, and keep going, many are back and forth with EmDeemo. I communicated with him when he left. Decided to concentrate on his music endeavors. He is MISSED!

 

[Vapouristo]

hey guys, noticed something on my NV PID recently and I can't seem to fix it. Perhaps I accidently messed with the parameters? Or maybe someone can enlighten me....

I noticed my coil glows red hot when the PID is heating from a cold start. After the temp read-out passes 500, it starts to glow red, until it turns bright red around 680-700 before the glowing stops and the coil drops to the desired temp.

Any advice? Faulty parameters? Faulty coil? I never noticed the glow until recently when I was in the dark; it never used to glow.

Anyone else with glowing coils after starting the PID?

 

[damm]

Yea just thought I'd throw that in while I was thinking about it ill definitely ask there about them.

Anyone else here using an auber thats dug into the settings at all? There should be a common PSL number for the vrods just like there are for dnails with some slight variation but I don't think newvape has done the math since there controllers don't have that setting.

Would be interested in adjusting some other settings once I've brought it up to temp if someone has any first hand experience doing that, right now I'm just digging through old posts but its hit or miss if it's relevant info

If you need to calculate the PSL, you are going to need a few things.

1. Amprobe TMD-50 Thermocouple Thermometer K-type
2. K-Type Thermocouple PK-1000 Temperature Sensor Probe w. High Temperature Fiber Insulation 1832F or 1000C (Set of 2)

Once you have those, you can review Auber Manual for Setting PSL to calculate the PSL.

If you are using an Auber Branded Coil, review the manual I linked as it has PSL settings for you, removing the need to buy anything.

 

[Vapouristo]

Between the 3 of us we'll have a really good benchmark for future Canadian customers .

Hopefully it isn't too big a charge, so long as it's 70cdn or less I'll be okay

Order was presented to CSBA last night around 10:20 pm.

 

[Bad Dog]

Your order is at the California school board association?

Edit: talk about higher learning!

 

[Zangano Cruel]

More back to backs...
Started Wake & Vake Monday very early, at 00:00 actually, with some Sensi Star.
Stay vaped.
Mantente de la mente!!!

Second bowl is better...

 

[snackmaster]

Here's how the bowl's OD affects how the head sits hands-free - plusplus (larger OD) on top and CH on bottom:


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[cvs8floz]

Here's how the bowl's OD affects how the head sits hands-free - plusplus (larger OD) on top and CH on bottom:
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It's pretty obvious who the winner is, is plusplus the only place that can measure correctly?

 

[snackmaster]

@cvs8floz dunno, according to CH they've historically had a really high failure rate of something like 50% on glass bowls in terms of not fitting FP heads so I assume the smaller OD is an overcorrection. That feels like hyperbole, but in fairness I've only got the one plusplus bowl so maybe we'd see more issues in a larger sample? However, that's such an easy QC test that I don't see how a vendor could be that shitty.

 

[Vapouristo]

Your order is at the California school board association?

Edit: talk about higher learning!

CBSA***

 

[Circa1999]

My WeedEater shows up in 2 days, do you guys recommend following the official instructions that comes with the thing or is there a better source?

 

[Bad Dog]

Don’t worry it’s not rocket science, just pick a starting temperature like 666 then go up or down by 10 until you find your sweet spot..... unless you find you like 666

 

[Enialis]

TRUE, or the search feature. There certainly are many posts about PID settings.
What I do, when searching, is I’ll set the search for “thread” first, then “forum”, then “everywhere”, this helps narrow it down. I’ve seen some PID setting posts in both DCup & TCup threads.

Hmmm, I found a place to start:

T-Bucket Banger System by NewVape

Any interest in just making your own dabs instead? Thats ultimately the direction I went in as I have next to no access to concentrates at all. Can you get legal cbd concentrates? I find (and i have no idea how psychosomatic this is) that a little pure cbd mixed into the dab makes it easier to...

fuckcombustion.com

And....

T-Bucket Banger System by NewVape

T-bucket arrived last weekend and it's pretty amazing. The sapphire dish really does bring the flavor out and it is a substantial upgrade over Vrod dabbing. My t-bucket doesn't seem to be effective under 600F though. It could be the shatter I'm using but it didn't even melt at 450-515F. I'll...

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Yes thats exactly what I've been doing, but it's nice to have a conversation with somebody about it to clarify things im finding in old posts.

I'm not quite sure why your linking me to threads of completely different

I guess Enials missed my post above with 2 links, if read from the first, and keep going, many are back and forth with EmDeemo. I communicated with him when he left. Decided to concentrate on his music endeavors. He is MISSED!

Sorry didn't mean to ignore you. You actually posted that post while I was still writing the one after it and I'm only just now seeing. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction.

If you need to calculate the PSL, you are going to need a few things.

1. Amprobe TMD-50 Thermocouple Thermometer K-type
2. K-Type Thermocouple PK-1000 Temperature Sensor Probe w. High Temperature Fiber Insulation 1832F or 1000C (Set of 2)

Once you have those, you can review Auber Manual for Setting PSL to calculate the PSL.

If you are using an Auber Branded Coil, review the manual I linked as it has PSL settings for you, removing the need to buy anything.

How suitable is that thermometer for other purposes?

I was balking at the price compared to some of the cheaper options or looking at purpose built gadgets at that price but then I realized I'm probably going to need one at some point after I get my 3d printer set up for my next project.

I don't have anything specific in mind i just saw it on a list of tools at a makerspace and haven't been able to follow up on that yet.

 

[Bad Dog]

My dishes for my VRod hit customs today!!!!! Now when will my VRod ship?!?

 

[Grampyhash]

Maybe they won't nail you too bad, fingers crossed. Your order hasn't shipped out yet though right? If I was you and you get it before I do you'll have to post lots of pics to make me jealous .

Between the 3 of us we'll have a really good benchmark for future Canadian customers .

Another Canadian here. DHL came very fast but it’s cost me 30 some bucks for their fees. Total BS but no choice but to pay it.

 

[RiskyRaccoon]

@RiskyRaccoon, how about cutting a silicone baking mat or potholder to size & wrapping it around the handle? And how about seeing a dermatologist for a diagnosis & treatment?

I'll definitely see a dermatologist once I'm vaccinated. That is a good idea though. I used a thermocouple to measure the temp of the handle, and it is a steady 82 F which combined w/ the wick is enough to make my hands sting from the micro cuts that have ensued. I still don't think it's a product I can recommend "as is" to people who might suffer from this (which honestly could be anyone), and I hope they improve the design.

 

[SquirrelMaster]

Another Canadian here. DHL came very fast but it’s cost me 30 some bucks for their fees. Total BS but no choice but to pay it.

I'd pay $30 to have my VROD right now haha.

 

[Socks And Sandals]

Hey fellas, it's been a while since I posted last (had to move out of California and still adjusting) but I had some pressing questions I kinda needed answered. I notice a whole lot of you guys use temps much higher than I do.. so I'm hoping someone can give me a temp recommendation for that new glass bowl. I normally start my sessions at 600F on average with flower (sometimes rarely even 580F) and end them about 620 or 630 and pretty much the same with the glass bowl. I can't fathom using this without the carb cap because I've tried, with many different strains and it's just too damn airy IMO. I usually have my first 2 hits with the carb cap about 1/4 of the way open and just play with that.. 3rd or 4th hit (if there is a 4th hit) are always fully carbed. I understand that since most of you guys use these higher temps, I'm kinda afraid to ask what temp I should be using the glass bowl with the Vrod with but I will.... What temp?

I also recently discovered that I still like to combust once in a while as it kinda reminds me of why I vape and the health benefits. I bought the FC-200 v2 from discount enails for that reason.. and since this was the rig that CH originally used to ship the flowerpot bundles, I thought it was a sound choice. I just have 2 questions. 1. Do you guys think that's too much percolation for the FP? and 2. Do you guys use the same glass you have put smoke through with vapor? My CH 9.5 bent neck slitted diffuser has never seen smoke. I guess I always thought it would taint it somehow LOL.. I know ridiculous right?

Also my NV PID has been acting strange lately.. always overshooting drastically and many times dropping 8 degrees of the simple movement of me removing the vrod from the stand and placing it on the glass or TI bowl.. It doesn't really affect much as I need time to recover for the next hit anyway but it didn't use to do that. I've already done the Auto Tune that Zancru and a few others told me about. Not sure if it's helping much.

 

[damm]

How suitable is that thermometer for other purposes?

I was balking at the price compared to some of the cheaper options or looking at purpose built gadgets at that price but then I realized I'm probably going to need one at some point after I get my 3d printer set up for my next project.

I don't have anything specific in mind i just saw it on a list of tools at a makerspace and haven't been able to follow up on that yet.

The probes I linked would be considered industrial use—lots of uses, including knowing the temp of your dish so you can have that perfect dab.

 

[710yota]

Hey fellas, it's been a while since I posted last (had to move out of California and still adjusting) but I had some pressing questions I kinda needed answered. I notice a whole lot of you guys use temps much higher than I do.. so I'm hoping someone can give me a temp recommendation for that new glass bowl. I normally start my sessions at 600F on average with flower (sometimes rarely even 580F) and end them about 620 or 630 and pretty much the same with the glass bowl. I can't fathom using this without the carb cap because I've tried, with many different strains and it's just too damn airy IMO. I usually have my first 2 hits with the carb cap about 1/4 of the way open and just play with that.. 3rd or 4th hit (if there is a 4th hit) are always fully carbed. I understand that since most of you guys use these higher temps, I'm kinda afraid to ask what temp I should be using the glass bowl with the Vrod with but I will.... What temp?

I also recently discovered that I still like to combust once in a while as it kinda reminds me of why I vape and the health benefits. I bought the FC-200 v2 from discount enails for that reason.. and since this was the rig that CH originally used to ship the flowerpot bundles, I thought it was a sound choice. I just have 2 questions. 1. Do you guys think that's too much percolation for the FP? and 2. Do you guys use the same glass you have put smoke through with vapor? My CH 9.5 bent neck slitted diffuser has never seen smoke. I guess I always thought it would taint it somehow LOL.. I know ridiculous right?

Also my NV PID has been acting strange lately.. always overshooting drastically and many times dropping 8 degrees of the simple movement of me removing the vrod from the stand and placing it on the glass or TI bowl.. It doesn't really affect much as I need time to recover for the next hit anyway but it didn't use to do that. I've already done the Auto Tune that Zancru and a few others told me about. Not sure if it's helping much.

I don't use a drastically different temp when using my glass bowl vs my ti one, I might go down a little due to the material being a bit closer to the heater. I'd start with whatever works for you with your shovel head and just go from there.

That glass does look like its more perc then I'd normally go for with a vapor rig but it's not like its not going to work. I don't use the same glass to combust as I do to vape, I've noticed when I accidentally combust I can taste it until I clean my glass. Some people make a point to say never combusted in when selling glass, but its not like you can't just clean it all out. I still prefer to keep my combustion and vapor pieces separate though even though I'm not tied up in the world of fancy pants elite glass sales.

 

[invertedisdead]

many times dropping 8 degrees of the simple movement of me removing the vrod from the stand and placing it on the glass or TI bowl..

That's normal. The head has to lose some heat to warm the bowl, that's why it's called heat transfer.

 

[Grampyhash]

I'd pay $30 to have my VROD right now haha.

I’ll admit it was worth it from the first hit. .

 

[delta hotel]

I'm kinda excited for the flood of new first hit posts. I'm even excited for the questions, as it means we get to set someone on the path properly as was done for me!