Cannabis Hardware (formerly NewVape) FlowerPot Twax Vaporizer
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Chicken No Name
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I really like the plusplus glass bowls. Don't have a shovelhead anymore.
I don't use a screen as I find I can taste metal but only if in contact with the herb. Using the b1 titanium as a heat source doesn't seem to effect taste. So for me all glass from the herb onwards is preferably.
Drop down helps to capture most of the herb that gets through the bowl. I fortunately bought 3 when they were available so clean everyday in rotation.
I find the pp perfect size / depth. Half to two thirds full for a 2 or 3 hit clearance.
I have the PID set to 575. Really liking coarse ground with BCG.
Would be great to have a variety of glass bowls with different depths so avoiding any metal in contact with the herb. For now I must be careful with the ones I have.
I don't use a screen as I find I can taste metal but only if in contact with the herb. Using the b1 titanium as a heat source doesn't seem to effect taste. So for me all glass from the herb onwards is preferably.
Drop down helps to capture most of the herb that gets through the bowl. I fortunately bought 3 when they were available so clean everyday in rotation.
I find the pp perfect size / depth. Half to two thirds full for a 2 or 3 hit clearance.
I have the PID set to 575. Really liking coarse ground with BCG.
Would be great to have a variety of glass bowls with different depths so avoiding any metal in contact with the herb. For now I must be careful with the ones I have.
Tuck
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I saw how far the heater was from the screen on the elev8 bowl and that deterred me from installing my injector. Maybe I'll play with it. How big a screen did you use in the 18mm joint?
Bad Dog
Yeah I pissed on the rug...... so what
I have 3 glass bowls, 1 OG new vape, 1 ZZGlass, 1 small plus plus glass. The plus plus is my favourite by a wide margin. Though the zzglass and a rbt metal rimmed basket screen is very nice.
I shared this idea in the cloud connoisseur glass thread but no one seemed interested so I thought I’d see what you guys think about it. This idea was for injector style bowls but could also be adapted to a redesigned flowerpot bowl. What is the biggest problem with convection vaping???? What touches the walls of the bowl never vapes as well as the rest. So my solution is this, a 2 ply basket screen for the bowl??? What do I mean by 2 ply??? Just a regular basket screen but welded to the bottom a few single strands of wire evenly spaced out all going the same direction. What do I think this will do?? It will lift the basket off the glass and allow air flow around the outside of the bowl and thought the entire basket screen, fully vaping the bowl without stirring. The trick is to find the sweet spot of the right amount of air flow with the thickness if the welded wires so not to much heat goes around the outside and not through the middle of the bowl. It’s just a theory but I think it would work.
I shared this idea in the cloud connoisseur glass thread but no one seemed interested so I thought I’d see what you guys think about it. This idea was for injector style bowls but could also be adapted to a redesigned flowerpot bowl. What is the biggest problem with convection vaping???? What touches the walls of the bowl never vapes as well as the rest. So my solution is this, a 2 ply basket screen for the bowl??? What do I mean by 2 ply??? Just a regular basket screen but welded to the bottom a few single strands of wire evenly spaced out all going the same direction. What do I think this will do?? It will lift the basket off the glass and allow air flow around the outside of the bowl and thought the entire basket screen, fully vaping the bowl without stirring. The trick is to find the sweet spot of the right amount of air flow with the thickness if the welded wires so not to much heat goes around the outside and not through the middle of the bowl. It’s just a theory but I think it would work.
SquirrelMaster
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Me too. The other glass bowls work well enough, though I find you have to hold the head level if your glass bowl isn't as wide or it sits crooked and doesn't pull all the air through the heater. The plusplus is nice and wide and just works so damn good. I really wish they would restock or someone else would make something as good.
I like the theory, it's worth a try if the screen can be made easily.
David Root
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For the screen in the bottom of a glass bowl, I form the screen in a dome with the edges lifted from the bottom. Right now I am using one of the bowls that come with the Ispire Wand and I have one other glass, but it has a single hole with no screen. It works OK, but draw is limited.
Still thinking about shovel head on one side of the Flower Pot and Injector on the other.
I did it with a B1 and WeedEater.
B1 bottom nut al most full of balls.
WeedEater top nut.
NOW Cut the post out of the WeedEater Bottom nut and screw it into the top of the top Weedeater nut so its sticking out the top. this will hold the balls in.
Male on the top, female on the bottom.
I don't do pictures here, but I did screw it together and use it last night. I have not Cut the post from the bottom WeedEater nut yet. Probably Monday when I have access to machine shop at work. It did work as an assemblely. I needed about 25 * f more than I had.
I think the total bottom nut from the WeedEater is sinking some heat out. Once the post is cut off, it will be smaller and less heat sinking. It will add mass.
I think it will heat the extra Ti because in the stand, the "injector" is on top of the balls and heat rises.
When I used it last night, it did not matter which side I used. Performance was the same. I allow more time for warm up.
David
Still thinking about shovel head on one side of the Flower Pot and Injector on the other.
I did it with a B1 and WeedEater.
B1 bottom nut al most full of balls.
WeedEater top nut.
NOW Cut the post out of the WeedEater Bottom nut and screw it into the top of the top Weedeater nut so its sticking out the top. this will hold the balls in.
Male on the top, female on the bottom.
I don't do pictures here, but I did screw it together and use it last night. I have not Cut the post from the bottom WeedEater nut yet. Probably Monday when I have access to machine shop at work. It did work as an assemblely. I needed about 25 * f more than I had.
I think the total bottom nut from the WeedEater is sinking some heat out. Once the post is cut off, it will be smaller and less heat sinking. It will add mass.
I think it will heat the extra Ti because in the stand, the "injector" is on top of the balls and heat rises.
When I used it last night, it did not matter which side I used. Performance was the same. I allow more time for warm up.
David
Bad Dog
Yeah I pissed on the rug...... so what
I recommend taking it apart and going over the threads on both halves with a pointy pick too to see if you feel and burrs or imperfections. did you stretch your coil before assembly ? and maybe its a little too big now. both haves of the head will take a wrench, sorry I don't remember what sizes, and you can try and close the gap that way but if its to tight I wouldn't force it and contact cannabis hardware
androponic
vaped.
you can rule out the threads being an issue, does it tighten closed easily without the coil inside?
cvs8floz
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My setup is very similar to yours, I use the plusplus bowl with a dropdown at 575-590 except that I use fine grind and fill the bowl to the top so the bottom screen of the B1 is right on top of the material. Almost instant dense vapor if you preheat 10-15 seconds. I don't see the point of getting the injector, it sits almost an inch away from the material depending on the bowl you are using, I have both the ELEV8 and the Qaroma and you need at least 150 degrees more heat and the hits still aren't as satisfying. Btw, tbe GRAV 19mm glass bowl with 1-2 scoops works fairly well with the injectors distance-wise but it is out of stock.
David Root
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YES
androponic
vaped.
you can try this yourself, just grind using the grinder upside down a bit and this will make a finer grind for you to test.
SquirrelMaster
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A fine grind does allow for bigger hits but I wouldn't say it's a requirement. My OG HerbRipper XL medium is more of a medium/fine grind which I use daily in addition to a BCG medium (regular and large), and both grinds produce a lot of vapor. I run my B1 at 300°C/572°F and I like to give it a few minutes to heat soak once it hits temp.
Do you get hot spots in the shovelhead bowl?
SquirrelMaster
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I don't get any hotspots, the only uneven cooking of the herb will be the top layer on a deeply packed bowl or the edges if I'm drawing to fast (tunelling). I compulsively stir after each hit unless I pack a smaller bowl which will be vaped in one long massive draw.
snackmaster
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Still a fan of this idea...
...but also tend to agree with this. That grav bowl is great, but I also like Ed's injector bowl because it holds a screen well enough that you can set it where you want.
I think for @David Root's idea to really work the injector length and bowl depth have to be "tuned" to roughly match B1/B2 performance. A flippable head just isn't as appealing if each side requires a different temp.
I've had a V rod since they came out. Just bought a B1. Seems great but a few of my ruby pearls we're busted. I emailed cannabis hardware. Does anyone know a good source for more pearls?, CH only has ruby in stock and I'd like to try another material and another supplier of Ruby pearls as well. TIA
Thanks for those, what are people's preference and which are less likely to chip etc.?
RustyOldNail
SEARCH for the treasure...
Titanium won’t “chip”, though I haven’t had any of my ruby, quartz balls ever chip or break, not sure how one could achieve that....
Unfortunately some of mine came broken. I've emailed cannabis hardware.
I'm very interested in Ddave's titanium balls, I can only see them in his terp torch mod kit I, 've emailed him to ask if he sells separately. Thanks for the info