Cannabis Hardware (formerly NewVape) FlowerPot Twax Vaporizer

[Baron23]

HI guys - I really, really like Edwyn and NewVape. My kind of 100% American manf company

So, I'm a bit interested in the Flower Pot for herb...not really for dabbing.

My question is, doesn't the flower chamber get too freakin hot to pick up to empty as it doesn't have a handle or any insulator, right?

Yeah, S&B dosing capsules and Evo ELBs get hot but they cool very quickly as there is so little metal. But the flower chamber is certainly more mass and I imagine that once heat soaked after a load that it stays hot for a good while.

For those who own a FP and use it for herb, is this an issue and if so how do you handle it or work around it?

 

[biohacker]

Can someone convince me that this is far superior to a Sublimator? Seems somewhat similar.

waiting for the worm

http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/twax-flowerpot-versus-sublimator.23654/

Didn't want to keep you waiting. My memory sucks!

Not really any useful comparison info though...

 

[paytonpenn]

Double Decker with the Quartz Dish

 

[invertedisdead]

Dear Flowerpot owners - does vaping flower and concentrate from the same vape/rig bother you/compromise flavor? My one concern about this one.

 

[PPN]

Dear Flowerpot owners - does vaping flower and concentrate from the same vape/rig bother you/compromise flavor? My one concern about this one.

Yes it compromises the flavor, it degrades both the flavor of flowers and CC...

Habitually when I do double decker (with my DIY Volute vape) I first vape flowers until most of terpènes are gone , 3-4 hits at 620 on the controller and I place a small dab of low quality(2nd butane wash)/ low terpènes profil (reclaim)/rosin from moroccan kief (taste like moroccan kief) to get a less mixed taste....although that's not ideal if you want to taste all the complexity of your high quality extract, that's why I don't "double decker" with my tastier shatter/rosin but vape them on my quartz enail or in my coiless vapepens. Without to mention I use a lower temp for exclusive dabbing (520-550)....this is gave me an idea: I never tried double decker at this temp maybe that's the gamble, a low temp dab hit mixed with an extra low temp flower hit, I have to try that tomorrow morning!

 

[Justpassedu]

The Flower Pot has bloomed at my house. Only about 15 minutes to get set up. This vape is a very high quality, straight forward, and elegant design. I can't see how any vape of this style could be designed to function more easy or any better. One of the things I really love about it is the surface area of the bowls is very large. In my opinion a large surface area enhances the flavor and power of the hit. Another thing I dig coming from the SSV world is the temperature control. As far as functionality it functions a lot like a silver surfer in that you can control everything with temperature and draw adjustments. I think this vape could handle about any task in the most exceptional way. In some ways you may never need to purchase another vape or enail again. I just had my first hit and I must say it was truly delicious and amazing. Not that it is a big deal but the accessories are fucking amazing. I am so glad I didn't go cheap here and purchased what they offered. I am even more impressed with NewVape than I was before.

The Flower Pot is an exceptional vape especially when considering it costs about $350 give or take. I would have to say the vapecritic's review nails it in every way. The Flower Pot is a top tier vape no doubt about it.

Back to some seriously enjoyable testing.

Amazing , glad you received your's and are enjoying it. So happy people are starting to take notice of how good this setup is. Like you stated - "In some ways you may never need to purchase another vape or enail again." I agree in many ways. It really is a do it all device. I just received a few new things for mine and cannot thank NewVape enough . The stubby 14mm bowl now makes my glass look great with perfect fitment , I'll have to snap a few pictures shortly and i got the Flowerpot Tray, base and lid , it works wonders for holding the nail when hot and storage and even cashing your bowl , the quality is amazing and also the fine grinder just screams quality , i have yet to try it yet but cant wait to compare the grind to my kannastor gr8tr with the vape plates , it is so thick and heavy i see it outlasting my lifetime here on earth. Truly loving this vape , i use it every night and feel bad that my other high end vapes have taken the backseat for the time being but they all hold a place in my rotation. Its just some cannot compete on the Flowerpots level of getting me where i need to be sometimes.

@Baron23 the bowl area does get warm but you are not really keeping the head on there too long to the point it would get so hot and it cools very quickly , i grab mine about 5 seconds after a hit from the very bottom and dump it. I have not found this a issue but it would be cool to have a handle , maybe i can mention it to Edwyn and he'd try making something up for us.

@invertedisdead using both will tarnish taste a bit but it has not bothered me much at all , i have multiple glass pieces to solve this issue if i want separate hits but those double decker's will really creep up on you. A extra bowl is also recommended. While i like taste i find the taste of a good concentrate and flower hit together amazing and i clean my glass often as seeing it dirty really gets to me .

 

[invertedisdead]

Thanks for the replies guys. I like the idea of selling my volcano and still having the ability to hit flower, though I'm really most interested in the enail bit, the option of hitting flower is pretty cool. Though if I start squishing I might not need the flower option. The D Nail Halo is still top on my list, but this is moving up there. Price isn't bad either.

 

[lazylathe]

Quick tip:

Remove screen and replace with basket screen!
Perfect for small doses and loads are evenly toasted without stirring.
Same great taste and same thick clouds.

 

[paytonpenn]

 

[invertedisdead]

How is the draw resistance hitting with the lollipop?

Do you guys know if the Tag SiC dish would fit this? https://www.thickassglass.com/products/tag-replacement-domeless-silicon-carbide-dish

Cause that would make this pretty tempting.

 

[paytonpenn]

How is the draw resistance hitting with the lollipop?

Doesn't really seem any different than having no carb cap. Especially if you have herb in there already.

 

[Justpassedu]

Very nice setup , good to see it all performing well in the lower temp range and i like that hydratube base you got there , is it a custom ? Looks like a nice alternate way to use the ht's. Crazy how colored your bottom of the nail got from heat. I have not been able to get mine like that and i have it on quite often.

How is the draw resistance hitting with the lollipop?

Do you guys know if the Tag SiC dish would fit this? https://www.thickassglass.com/products/tag-replacement-domeless-silicon-carbide-dish

Cause that would make this pretty tempting.

Draw resistance would be the same as any carb cap using the lollicap if you have ever used a nail and carb. It adds some resistance and once lifted is free flowing again. Great for heat retention. No telling if the Sic dish would fit , please test for us and come back with some results. I am sure if it does not fit and is unused the company would take it back.

 

[paytonpenn]

Very nice setup , good to see it all performing well in the lower temp range and i like that hydratube base you got there , is it a custom ? Looks like a nice alternate way to use the ht's.

The base is from the Versa Infinity,

Spoiler: Video if you're curious

You may want to stay for the water pipe usage

 

[invertedisdead]

Very nice setup , good to see it all performing well in the lower temp range and i like that hydratube base you got there , is it a custom ? Looks like a nice alternate way to use the ht's. Crazy how colored your bottom of the nail got from heat. I have not been able to get mine like that and i have it on quite often.


Draw resistance would be the same as any carb cap using the lollicap if you have ever used a nail and carb. It adds some resistance and once lifted is free flowing again. Great for heat retention. No telling if the Sic dish would fit , please test for us and come back with some results. I am sure if it does not fit and is unused the company would take it back.

I'm pretty interested, was messing around on the new vape site and have a pretty nice little cart going for under $250 with the power supply. That's pretty damn affordable for the versatility of this device. I don't wanna spend any money on vape stuff though without purging the old, I wanna sell my Volcano to fund a new vape purchase. Like I mentioned I was thinking d nail halo, but this is super interesting if the sic dish fits. I'm gonna email new vape, maybe the owner has some insight. Here's the thing - the concept is cool as fuck with this, I just don't want to be making a compromise with my dab surface just to have something versatile. Jack of all trades master of none type of thing because I really want an incredible concentrate device first, and flower second; and I kind of get the vibe this unit, the sub, the herborizer ti; are all flower centric with dab capabilities. That's what interests me in the d nail lotus, sometimes purpose built devices just perform better; but obviously it comes at a price as this flower pot is very affordable. I do dab on Quartz currently and enjoy it, but I'm definitely interested in next gen dab surfaces. I noticed many members who own the flower pot or are considering it already have a liger or d nail so it makes me curious of the concentrate potential with the FP. The surface area of the Quartz dish does concern me somewhat, I saw @paytonpenn double decker video, and the dab looked pretty modest yet kind of difficult to launch in the dish, seems a bit narrow, compared to dabbing off an XXL banger. Thanks for the draw resistance info, I'm absolutely familiar with using a carb cap, but never with flower so I wasn't sure if that affected the draw in some other way.

 

[Doktor Dub]

What a nice Timer, so much more refined than the shutoff Timer build in Vapes. Would like to see something like this as standard part of a Vape.

@steama Nice find!

 

[invertedisdead]

One thing I don't understand about this device - is it supposed to rest on the stand when not in use or can I leave it on and connected to my water pipe like your typical e nail? Wouldn't the metal stand just get as hot as the rig would with the FP resting on it?

 

[Doktor Dub]

One thing I don't understand about this device - is it supposed to rest on the stand when not in use or can I leave it on and connected to my water pipe like your typical e nail? Wouldn't the metal stand just get as hot as the rig would with the FP resting on it?

The Flower pot consist of two Parts: Head and Base. The Head has the Coil on it and acts as Heater. The Base is to put your Flowers in, like the Sublimator Atomizer or a Slide. The Stand is just for the hot Head.

I think the original Idea is to leave it on the Stand and just put it on the Rig if you want to take a draw. This way it is more or less all Convection.
If you let it sit on the Base until it reaches Thermal Equilibrium, it will be more of a Mix between Convection and Conduction (like the Sublimator).
If you want to put new Flower in your Base, you need a Place to put your Head, that is what the Stand is for.

I hope this is understandable in my English.....

 

[invertedisdead]

The Flower pot consist of two Parts: Head and Base. The Head has the Coil on it and acts as Heater. The Base is to put your Flowers in, like the Sublimator Atomizer or a Slide. The Stand is just for the hot Head.

I think the original Idea is to leave it on the Stand and just put it on the Rig if you want to take a draw. This way it is more or less all Convection.
If you let it sit on the Base until it reaches Thermal Equilibrium, it will be more of a Mix between Convection and Conduction (like the Sublimator).
If you want to put new Flower in your Base, you need a Place to put your Head, that is what the Stand is for.

I hope this is understandable in my English.....

Hey Dubmaster, thanks! I understand your English very well! I think I didn't make my question clear enough though. If I'm using it for concentrates, can I leave the head and base on my rig at temp and ready to dab like a regular e nail? I realize the base is for changing herb but my question is about concentrates where a load change isn't necessary. I would only hit flower if I was out of concentrate, but perhaps this device is more flower centric than I need. May just go with the SiC Halo again. Wish I could try a dab off it to see!

 

[mrbonsai420]

This is very interesting!! We were designing something very similar for the CCA Liger line about a year back but it got put on the back burner. I would love to try one of these out, I may have to pick one up!

I would use this for double deckers and take a dab while I vape my flower!

 

[Doktor Dub]

@invertedisdead You can for sure use it like a regular eNail, but i don t know if it makes so much sense for this Scenario.

No SiC Option for the Flowerpot, and i would fear more waste because of Condensation in the Base...

If you Dab mainly i would search the Best Option for this, then think about Flowers. If you already have an ENail, the Flowerpot Head and Base and eventually a second Coil don t cost too much.

 

[Justpassedu]

The Flower pot consist of two Parts: Head and Base. The Head has the Coil on it and acts as Heater. The Base is to put your Flowers in, like the Sublimator Atomizer or a Slide. The Stand is just for the hot Head.

I think the original Idea is to leave it on the Stand and just put it on the Rig if you want to take a draw. This way it is more or less all Convection.
If you let it sit on the Base until it reaches Thermal Equilibrium, it will be more of a Mix between Convection and Conduction (like the Sublimator).
If you want to put new Flower in your Base, you need a Place to put your Head, that is what the Stand is for.

I hope this is understandable in my English.....

You hit the nail on the head man , I would think English is your 1st language .

Hey Dubmaster, thanks! I understand your English very well! I think I didn't make my question clear enough though. If I'm using it for concentrates, can I leave the head and base on my rig at temp and ready to dab like a regular e nail? I realize the base is for changing herb but my question is about concentrates where a load change isn't necessary. I would only hit flower if I was out of concentrate, but perhaps this device is more flower centric than I need. May just go with the SiC Halo again. Wish I could try a dab off it to see!

You can leave the head of the unit on the base if you'd like , like a regular Enail , no worries . Like @Doktor Dub stated though you'd be heating the base up and will get some covection/conduction going as the base will remain hot , you also may have some trouble unloading from the base due to the heat if you decided you wanted to have multiple flower sessions , concentrate you'd be fine though. I believe NewVape is working on a method to fix this though with some sort of handle incorporated into the bowl portion to make things allot easier for us. That is a great thing like a company like this , they are always trying to evolve the product instead of just putting something out the way it is. Also you may be able to drop a sic dish on the head as it seems to be a universal fitting , i'll try and pick a sic dish up if they are not to expensive in the near future for testing. I wouldn't say the flower pot is more flower centric , its a good mix of both and does both just as well if not better than having separate units to do so imo .

@mrbonsai420 glad to see you spotted this great vape , with all your nice glass i think you'd love some double deckers ...

 

[invertedisdead]

Great responses from all of you, really! Awesome info!

@Justpassedu The TAG SiC dish is like $12 compared to the D Nail @ $88! I've never actually hit sic so I'm just going off the words of others with that one, but I like the idea of its thermal properties.

 

[Justpassedu]

Great responses from all of you, really! Awesome info!

@Justpassedu The TAG SiC dish is like $12 compared to the D Nail @ $88! I've never actually hit sic so I'm just going off the words of others with that one, but I like the idea of its thermal properties.

I see the Tag , maybe i will grab one today to test for you although newvape will make one if everyone wants it no problem at all . I personally like the quartz and prefer it over the Sic , i don't like dabbing off something black in color as i like to see my concentrate and know when i need a deep cleaning but i do see many like the Sic over quartz & i have heard the few benefits it has over quartz.

 

[Vapodudule]

Does a fellow can measure the central rod outer diameter of the hydrid head FP? In Millimeters please.
If yes, can you produce the size of the NV quartz dish (inner hole, outer size).

Just To pronounce about the ability to use an Halo on the hydrib FP or any other dish.

 

[Doktor Dub]

Posts are getting more clueless on the Flower Pot by the minute - sheesh.

It makes perfect sense to use it as an enail. The Flower Pot option is always available. Just leave the bowl on the rig it is up to you if you want to put flower in the bowl or not. If not you have an enail that works like any other enail >>> always ready for a dab just like any other enail in this way.

I don t think i m clueless, for sure the FP will just work as eNail (like i said) but imho it is not the best Formfactor for only useing it as a Nail. Alone the Screen in the Bowl/Base should make for some unneccesary waste. That said, i am happy to be proven wrong on this

I know this is going to sound corny but for me the Flower Pot is 'VAPE FREEDOM'. I can do anything cannabis with one piece of equipment, concentrates, flowers, hash, and kief equally well with no changes. I can use different parts from different companies if I choose. The design is so simple there is nothing to break down. I have used many vapes (most vapes) that make it so if there is trouble I have to deal with the same company that made the vape to fix things. It just feels good I finally have a vape that fits my cord cutter personality.

That sounds really good and not corny, i can totaly relate to this Opinion. Everything about the FP seems to let the user be in Controll. Alone the possibility to order all Parts seperate.
Good Points!