Cannabis Hardware (formerly NewVape) FlowerPot Twax Vaporizer

PandaLee

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Ah man I can't wait for my new parts! I hope they're hard at work, vaping only the strongest sativas, knocking these orders out this morning!! My Vrod assimilation is incomplete using the old bowl and lollipop cap...with no glass balls spinning around!

:rofl:I think I'll survive the wait! My first FP purchase over a couple years ago was right in the middle of a huge hurricane that was ravaging their area. They knocked it out of the park then, and they'll do so again! Looking forward to my improved flowerpot:rockon: Also told a couple of the better smoke shops in Vegas to get with NewVape. Everyone down here enamored with their Peak, even as a home rig. They don't know what they're missing!
 

thevapist

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I almost bought one. Think I'm going to wait to see if there are any revisions. So tempting.

Yea, I was very close to pulling the trigger as I am big into concentrates, but honestly I have the VROD dialed in pretty well. Not needing two coils/different PID/more stuff on counter outweighs the upgrade for me at the moment.

I got some other stuff for the VROD instead.
 

Coustu

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I think I'll survive the wait!
Me too! But it’s gonna be hard. Just ordered the VROD complete bundle and battery with chassis. First Newvape purchase! Gonna take at least 3 weeks to ship but given that I spent the last 6 months saving every penny I could, I’m surprisingly anxiety free waiting for its arrival. Hope I can stay that way! LOL!!! I wonder how many orders they got over the course of that 3 hour sale.
 

Jblizz

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Me too! But it’s gonna be hard. Just ordered the VROD complete bundle and battery with chassis. First Newvape purchase! Gonna take at least 3 weeks to ship but given that I spent the last 6 months saving every penny I could, I’m surprisingly anxiety free waiting for its arrival. Hope I can stay that way! LOL!!! I wonder how many orders they got over the course of that 3 hour sale.

420 sale? I believe it was for 27 hours. Congrats on VROD.
 

Vaporware

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If u buy the vrod or showerhead, there shouldnt be any more revisions down the line right ?

There’s no guarantee, but both have been stable for a while now (the ShowerHead for a long time) and I don’t see any signs that they might be updated any time soon so I wouldn’t worry about it. :)

I did wait a while for the VRod design to stabilize before buying too, but it did and I bought it like 6 months ago. I still might give the edge to the ShowerHead for flower only, but for concentrates almost everyone prefers the VRod.
 

mantis_871

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@Coustu
that sale went from 12:01am 4/20/19 to (i believe) 3:00am 4/21/19. The rep did mention that it was a 27-hour sale.
edit: Jealous of that battery/chassis setup, my dude. I think down the road that's gonna be my main upgrade for sure. i love how you can screw everything you need right into the chassis.

People seem a bit more reserved this time compared to previous sales observed, or at least that's what discussion would indicate. Anyone else snag some goodies this time around? This thread might be beyond its apex, I fear.
 
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WelshBrok

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I upgraded to the auber, upgraded the vrod cap to have angled holes, got some terp pearls, the top weedeater nut to turn my rev1 vrod into the occasional weedeater and got a quartz banger + cap for a 20mm coil as it was $25 prediscount and thought I’d try it out
@Coustu
that sale went from 12:01am 4/20/19 to (i believe) 3:00am 4/21/19. The rep did mention that it was a 27-hour sale.
edit: Jealous of that battery/chassis setup, my dude. I think down the road that's gonna be my main upgrade for sure. i love how you can screw everything you need right into the chassis.

People seem a bit more reserved this time compared to previous sales observed, or at least that's what discussion would indicate. Anyone else snag some goodies this time around? This thread might be beyond its apex, I fear.
 

thevapist

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I upgraded to the auber, upgraded the vrod cap to have angled holes, got some terp pearls, the top weedeater nut to turn my rev1 vrod into the occasional weedeater and got a quartz banger + cap for a 20mm coil as it was $25 prediscount and thought I’d try it out

Are you saying you can get part of the Weedeater head and it will work with the VROD head? I looked into something like that but couldn't nail down what pieces I needed.
 

Roth

Pining for the Mountains
You have the 18 hole diffuser correct? I wonder the advantage or disadvantages using the 19 hole in the VROD?

I actually have one of the first version Vrod diffusers, so I have a 19 hole diffuser base. I just have one of NV's pins plugging up my middle hole turning it into the standard 18 hole version.

The Vrod had more issues with the darker outer ring in the bowl with the 19 hole version, hence the redesign to the 18 hole version.

So the Vrod definitely performs better with the 18 hole version, but I'm unsure how 18/19 compares with the Weedeater. I thought about picking one up during 420, but held off since I also have a SH.

I would hazard a guess that their isn't as much difference in performance in the WE as there is with the Vrod, but that's a total guess.
 

Manity

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@Roth Thank you very much

Just became a Showerhead owner during 420 sale this year. I've mastered the parts list on NV just needed clarification for my next order from them... Probably black Friday lol I'll upgrade to a VROD with 19 hole diffuser, a weed eater nut. Already have the diffuser plugs incoming with my setup.
 

Summer

Long Island, NY
Anyone else snag some goodies this time around?

Well, in 1-3 weeks I'll have my FP. I went with 14 & 18mm glass bowls, the NV PID, coil with handle, the safety stand with debowler, carb cap, reg. screens pack & the ss loading tool. $300 + ship, not bad.

I'm partial to glass, so went with the g. bowls, & it didn't hurt that they are @Baron23 approved.

Since this was not a financially prudent purchase at this time, I forgoed (no such word, but there should be. ;)) the 14 & 18mm ti joints &.shovelhead for $56 & didn't even research the Auber PID & coil upgrade.

I think I'm gonna love it, but as a microdoser, don't know if it will be overkill, especially since I have 7 other vapes. Like how many does a microdoser really need to accomplish the deed. :p But this vape has had me intrigued, then :drool: for a while. So here I am.

I do have 4 questions in case I want to make a change before shipping:
  1. I never used screens in my fixed glass stems, but I see some do in the g. bowls. Are they using the NV standard ti screens or some other? And if NV, do the screens have to be cut to fit?
  2. Being a microdoser who inhales for 10 - 15 sec. at best, I'm not sure that a carb cap is nec. And, to date, I've never dabbed, & when I do, it will only be rosin on occasion. supershredderdan got his initial setup 2nd-hand w/o a cap & his 4 flower hits went fine. With my short draws, it seems like as soon as I put it on I'll be removing it. This all said, can I get away with the basic $8 carb csp on the site for my needs instead of the $40 FP cap?
  3. Apart from auto shutoff, what benefit, if any, would the Auber provide over the NV for my usage stlye?
  4. I've looked all over the site & can't find the warranty length for either controller. And is the warranty transferable should this not work out?
Thank you in advance. Now I'm gonna start reading through the thread before delivery.
 

Vaporware

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@Summer Welcome to the club! I think you’ll be happy, and I’ll try to answer your questions. :)

1. I haven’t used my glass bowl with flower yet so I can’t tell you what works best, but I know some people use them bare or with a bit of degummed hemp fiber or cotton on or under the glass screen, so that is an option. I think the inner diameter is smaller than on the Ti bowls, so if you do use a screen you’ll probably have to bend or cut it.

2. If you said which head you got (VRod, ShowerHead, WeedEater) I missed it, and the WE doesn’t have a carb cap, but if you want a carb cap for the VRod you should get the VRod carb cap and for the ShowerHead you should get the Shower Cap.

I wouldn’t buy anything else without verifying that it fit, and I think those are the only two caps NewVape makes that fit right.

I think the cap is completely optional for flower though, so if you don’t want to dab any time soon you can skip it for now.

3. The Auber’s other main advantage is for someone who wants to change temperature settings frequently.

Auber uses a knob (press, turn, press to set) which I prefer to the little arrow buttons on the other controller. If you want to set it and forget it though, you shouldn’t notice much difference.

4. The controller has a 1 year warranty, the coil has 30 days (I checked my email from Edwyn to make sure). I don’t know about the Auber, but I’d be surprised if it wasn’t as good.

If you don’t do anything crazy with the coil like turning it up as high as it goes and leaving it there for hours you shouldn’t have any problems with those parts for a long time anyway.

I hope that helps. Enjoy! :rockon:
 

Summer

Long Island, NY
Thank you for your answers @VaporWare.

I get along witb degummed hemp as well as I get along with scotch tape. :rolleyes: But it is an option. Although I will probably go @Baron23's route & go screenless. But as I'd like to have the screen option, I need to know if the ti are the screens to buy or if there are others that are preferable.

You're right. I said FP, but didn't specify SH. I just assumed you'd know. :) I will find out from @NewVape710 if the basic carb cap will fit the SH well enough for light, infrequent dabbing. If not, I'll stick with the dedicated cap.

I won't be changing temps frequently, but if during all of my 4 hits :rolleyes:, the FP lends itself to stepping up I might possiby change the temp 2-3 times during those hits. :shrug:yet. I don't even know yet if you can turn the controller down like the enano & let it run over 4 hours or better to turn it off & on again 2 hours later. I want whatever controller is better to work with & has a lesser failure rate.

@NewVape710, how long is the Auber warranty? And are controller warranties transferrable?

Since this thread started 11/16, any suggestions as to what point I should jump in & starting reading this thread?

f you don’t do anything crazy with the coil like turning it up as high as it goes and leaving it there for hours you shouldn’t have any problems with those parts for a long time anyway.

We microdosers never do anything crazy. :lol:
 
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Coustu

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Huh? It was a 24-hour sale, just like always. I imagine that a 3 hour affair would melt their website servers.
Ha! Yeah I read that wrong. You’re right! Matter of fact, I was thinking, “is the site even gonna work?” I was straight lunchin’. LOL!!!
 

mantis_871

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@Summer
Awesome, that's a lot of goodies! :nod: I think you'll love it for microdosing, many people use the FP specifically for that, and it absolutely kills! Let us know what you think of the glass bowls when you get it. I went with the SH as well. I'm not certain which carb cap you mean, I didn't realize there was an $8 option, which probably would've caught my attention (maybe it's better I missed it and got the showercap :lol:). As for the auber controller, my memory insists that it's a 1 year warranty on the controller. Coils don't usually come with a warranty (newvape coils do for 30 days but that's only enough time to reveal manufacturing defects), although their website page for the RDK-300 says that in cases of overheated/burnt-out coils, they offer a discount. https://www.auberins.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=45&products_id=484
I doubt controller warranty's are transferable but perhaps someone more knowledgeable will step in and correct me!

I recommend having a look at around pg 250-280, which should skip over some unfortunate history (best left buried). If you start at page 300 and work your way to here, that ought to keep you busy until your package arrives and should cover most of the relevant info. I'm going back from the start and am trying to find where the SH was first released/announced. It's crazy seeing everyone show off their wraparounds w/ exposed coils, oblivious to the new product lines that we've all come to love. Just makes you realize that even when the FP was in its infancy, it was still a kick-ass piece of kit :)

@stinkytofus
As I understand it, the biggest killers would be either: set temp ridiculously high and leave it there for an extended period of time (people leave them at normal-use temps for multiple days at a time or most of the day, and don't seem to have problems), or: rapid power-cycling, letting the coil heat up then shut it off, let it cool, then heat it up again. Generally, electronics hate this and consider this a breach of contract whereupon they will cease doing their jobs and refuse to enter into negotiations. All jokes aside, this is a fantastic way to kill your coils. If you've ever used old school audio equipment, or even a desktop computer or a lightbulb, this is probably not a foreign concept to you. From what I gather, coils will last awhile if you turn them on, leave them on for a little while while they're used, and leave them alone for a good while after you turn them off. It's not gonna kill them if you shut it off, realize you wanna get higher and turn it back on in 15 minutes, but it would be better for longevity if you just left it on during that time and shut it off when you're done.

All that aside, it's fairly likely that you'll need a new coil every few years; they seem to last a year or two at best, depending on use. Some people have had their coils last much longer. Electronics are funny. I suggest you find a good coil that fits your auber that costs ~$25-50 (shouldn't be hard, after all that's why we went with the auber over the NV controller, right? at least for me that was the selling point), and buy a few, just like you would with any other replaceable item such as downstems, glass bowls, screens, etc. I'm curious if 710coils offers any options that fit the SH. They seem to have two likely candidates - a four-wrap and a six-wrap, both 20mm and rated for 150w. For some reason the 6-wrap is cheaper, but I think it's too tall for this use case.

@WelshBrok
Nice! That sounds awesome. In retrospect, I almost wish I had gone with the VROD, I bet the reverse head would have fit the auber coil and I think it's awesome that you can swap out the coil nut for the weedeater and have the best of both worlds. Those terp pearls look pretty awesome as well. Dabs come around my area about as often as lightning strikes the same spot twice, but I definitely appreciate the versatility of the VROD. I also like how much tighter the tolerances are, it seems like a very refined and efficient unit. Sounds like you'll be all set for whatever comes your way, haha.
 

Baron23

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Thank you for your answers @VaporWare.

I get along witb degummed hemp as well as I get along with scotch tape. :rolleyes: But it is an option. Although I will probably go @Baron23's route & go screenless. But as I'd like to have the screen option, I need to know if the ti are the screens to buy or if there are others that are preferable.

You're right. I said FP, but didn't specify SH. I just assumed you'd know. :) I will find out from @NewVape710 if the basic carb cap will fit the SH well enough for light, infrequent dabbing. If not, I'll stick with the dedicated cap.

I won't be changing temps frequently, but if during all of my 4 hits :rolleyes:, the FP lends itself to stepping up I might possiby change the temp 2-3 times during those hits. :shrug:yet. I don't even know yet if you can turn the controller down like the enano & let it run over 4 hours or better to turn it off & on again 2 hours later. I want whatever controller is better to work with & has a lesser failure rate.

@NewVape710, how long is the Auber warranty? And are controller warranties transferrable?

Since this thread started 11/16, any suggestions as to what point I should jump in & starting reading this thread?



We microdosers never do anything crazy. :lol:
I'm a big fan of the carb caps...for flower. The basics of physics, specifically boiling point depression with lower temps, is still in effect.

As for the glass bowls...yes, I liked them and have a couple but have gone back to the Ti adjustabowl. I am NOT a microdoser and really look to knock myself out in the evening/night for pain and sedation. The glass bowls worked well....had to crank the temp up just a bit I believe....but they are nice if glass in the path is important to you. They do let more scooby snacks into your rig then the Ti bowls with a screen, but the things need to be cleaned anyway, right?

I have never put a screen in my glass bowls...seemed counter productive to go to glass and then add metal. I'm sure it will work fine and once you get your bowls, measure the inside diameter and there are tons of screens out there for little to more (think Ti double weave) money.

I do not do fancy things with PID controllers. I just want steady stable temp...that's its main purpose and if a PID does that, I'm happy. So, in this case no...I don't think the Auber will get you anything functionally over the NV controller (which is really now the Dabpress controller that they are reselling). TBH, one of the best controllers I have seen is an Omron E5CC based box. You get the Omron sub-assembly, a solid state relay, a power interface and power button, and that's about it for the guts of it. @710Coils helped me fix up a chinese box that had this great Omron assembly and then they screwed everything else up (I have no idea how Greenlight could mess it up this way).

So, go with either, IMO. NV stuff is fine with me....as long as it uses the semi-de facto standard full size XLR and pin outs on the box and the coil....which I believe that they do now.
 
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