Cannabis Hardware (formerly NewVape) FlowerPot Twax Vaporizer

[Chris_CH]

No revs in the works.

But there is a major difference in weight. Not sure how it'll work with your rigs though.

Sorry for the sideways pics...

@NewVape710 what is the weight difference between the weed eater and Showerhead? On some of my small rigs the weight tends to pull the unit over if I don’t hold on. I’m wondering if the weed eater would solve for this?

Also, are there any weed eater revisions already in the works? I bought the VROD quickly and missed on some quick updates so am just wanting to double check. Thanks!!

 

[Gigsabits53]

I'm planning on getting a FlowerPot during the 4/20 sale. I have kept up with this thread and I've noticed very few complaints with this device. I'm already getting antsy waiting for a sale. I hope they have a 4/20 sale, guess I'm not sure that they do. If not, I can just buy now.

 

[muunch]

I'm planning on getting a FlowerPot during the 4/20 sale. I have kept up with this thread and I've noticed very few complaints with this device. I'm already getting antsy waiting for a sale. I hope they have a 4/20 sale, guess I'm not sure that they do. If not, I can just buy now.

Pretty sure they do a 4/20 and 710/Independence Day sale each year, but it isn't much of a difference between the sale discounts and the regular 'twaxvapor' coupon code

 

[TheFatBastard]

Need one of these cool scoops.... any idea where can I get one within Europe / UK so not having to overpay for shipping?

Anybody?

 

[Summer]

The decreased mass/profile is definitely noticeable and welcome.

I should really have said that I understand less mass & profile, but in what way/why, specifically, are the changes welcome & beneficial in this setup? FYI, I'm a newbie to this vape.
TIA.

 

[okc0mputer]

I'm planning on getting a FlowerPot during the 4/20 sale. I have kept up with this thread and I've noticed very few complaints with this device. I'm already getting antsy waiting for a sale. I hope they have a 4/20 sale, guess I'm not sure that they do. If not, I can just buy now.

I emailed and asked the same question. Edwyn replied and said there would most likely be a sale between 10-15%. I still bought yesterday though

Anybody?

https://vapefiend.co.uk/collections/newvape/products/newvape-titanium-shovel-tool-2560

 

[muunch]

I should really have said that I understand less mass & profile, but in what way/why, specifically, are the changes welcome & beneficial in this setup? FYI, I'm a newbie to this vape.
TIA.

Well it's smaller/shorter. Noticeably less heavy - it will NOT tip that small rig I pictured unless the handle+cord is in front of the bowl, further weighing it down. It's also less likely to tip that small circular stand pictured in my photo... although I got the stand at the same time as the weedeater so I cannot definitively say the vrod/showerhead would tip that stand.

I thought less mass may be an issue when I first got it and saw how small it was... my first thoughts were "fuck, I may have to go HIGHER than I did with the showerhead" but this is NOT the case.

I am just happy to have a smaller, lighter piece of gear that accomplishes the same thing I was accomplishing with my showerhead (2-3hit, full bowl extraction with wide open airflow and fast pulls).

It's more of an aesthetic change than anything. Right now, I don't notice any glaring performance differences between the Showerhead and the Weedeater... The main difference right now is the taste. This could just be the glass bowl, but I don't remember getting such an intense blast of terps during the first few seconds of the draw with the showerhead.

fwiw, I felt 735 was a bit too high for this drier flower I was using yesterday and I ended up roasting it a bit too much for my liking. It seems I'm gonna bounce between 720~ and 750~ based on load size and dryness of flower.

 

[chaos_theory]

I would think less mass also means it can more easily heat up and cool down?

In all honesty, I am in the camp and think that anything over 600 is way too high for flower. I actually mostly vape in the 550-585 range. This works to most effectively extract all the compounds rather than combust the herb.

I do dab at 600-640 though. This allows a small mix of vaporizing and combusting the material. Many articles agree with this approach on enails.

This is all preference with a bit of science though. There are a TON of variables here that we never weigh when giving our temps, things such as glass airflow, restriction, inhale speed, temperature of the room air and if you preheated the shower/vrod/weed head properly.

I have had my vrod for a solid 3 months now and I love it! I am always looks for ways to improve my game.

 

[YaMon]

In all honesty, I am in the camp and think that anything over 600 is way too high for flower.

Keep in mind the temperature indicated on the PID is accurate at the thermocouple in your coil, it is not the temperature of the heated air as it makes contact with your herbs. For most varieties I have run through my ShowerHead 747 is my preferred temp. For those fairly new to the thread the ShowerHead tends to run a slightly smaller delta in temperature difference between the coil and the air as it contacts your herbs. In other words if I am running 747 on the ShowerHead, it may only take 650 degrees on the VRod to achieve the same results for flower. I am not saying the delta is 100 degrees, just trying to illustrate a point. It will be interesting to see how the Weedeater compares.

 

[chaos_theory]

Keep in mind the temperature indicated on the PID is accurate at the thermocouple in your coil, it is not the temperature of the heated air as it makes contact with your herbs.

For sure, this is what I was trying to say in the end - the air thats hitting is not what the temperature you set your unit to is and all of these variables effect this.

Has anyone been able to get actual temp data comparing this? Just think it would be interesting to see.

 

[fatbiker]

I would think less mass also means it can more easily heat up and cool down?

In all honesty, I am in the camp and think that anything over 600 is way too high for flower. I actually mostly vape in the 550-585 range. This works to most effectively extract all the compounds rather than combust the herb.

I do dab at 600-640 though. This allows a small mix of vaporizing and combusting the material. Many articles agree with this approach on enails.

This is all preference with a bit of science though. There are a TON of variables here that we never weigh when giving our temps, things such as glass airflow, restriction, inhale speed, temperature of the room air and if you preheated the shower/vrod/weed head properly.

I have had my vrod for a solid 3 months now and I love it! I am always looks for ways to improve my game.

I also have a VRod. Do you use a carb cap? I have been experimenting with the temps too. I think 635+ is too hot. I have been staying around 610. I may try to go down to 565-585 and see how it is.

I have not used a carb cap for flower but I do not get a dark ring with the carb cap. If I take it off I most certainly get a dark ring.

 

[EmDeemo]

For sure, this is what I was trying to say in the end - the air thats hitting is not what the temperature you set your unit to is and all of these variables effect this.

Has anyone been able to get actual temp data comparing this? Just think it would be interesting to see.

I had a temp probe in below the bowl to try and figure out what was going on. As inaccurate as it was, and prone to so many variables (speed of inhale, type of glass, amount of water etc), it was what led me down the road of a six hole carb cap for my showerhead.

I think @Stu had some actual graphs n stuff from readings he took, rather than the rambling posts I kept making (tho I did find the six hole carbcap to be VERY successful in achieving lower temps, full extraction and no noticeable added draw restriction).

 

[Baron23]

I also have a VRod. Do you use a carb cap? I have been experimenting with the temps too. I think 635+ is too hot. I have been staying around 610. I may try to go down to 565-585 and see how it is.

I have not used a carb cap for flower but I do not get a dark ring with the carb cap. If I take it off I most certainly get a dark ring.

I cap always for two reasons; 1) basic reason for a carb cap is still applicable...lower pressure equals lower boiling points and; 2) prevents blow back from shooting AVB out of my bowl.

Cheers

 

[EmDeemo]

I cap always for two reasons; 1) basic reason for a carb cap is still applicable...lower pressure equals lower boiling points and; 2) prevents blow back from shooting AVB out of my bowl.

Cheers

Yup. For flower, I always carbed. Lower temps, full extraction.

 

[chaos_theory]

@fatbiker I do flower at 585 with no carb cap.

I do get the dark ring but, I take my time with my sesh and keep toasting it, after a bit it evens out and its "done" to me. I then save the ABV for my butter extractions.

Tried carbed but it restricts my airflow quite a bit. I'll experiment a bit more with and without at my temps and see.

One thing I do know, if I truly twax at 640 the flower gets down right crispy.

 

[muunch]

I don't like the increased draw resistance of capped, though I understand the appeal for folks wanting to stay on the lower side, temp wise.

I feel like I can handle a lot more vapor when I breathe in fast, and without risk of coughing. I take a draw just like I am taking a deep, hard breath in order to catch my lungs and feel like that helps to maximize lung space+absorption... I mean aren't deep breaths done to get more oxygen...? As always I could be full of shit - I am not a pulmonologist. But this is just my preference. I liked my tubo, where I could just rip on it full speed for this exact reason.

I also don't like huffing on the thing forever. I understand wanting to savor a session, but shit, I feel like I get full session experience in 30 seconds with 2 hits

 

[abcd5432]

Do you guys ever replace the screen? (joke! )

Seriously, what are my options? It's been 15 months of daily use, I don't think it was meant for this .
We've been through some good times, but you're falling apart now .

 

[chaos_theory]

All the time! Well I think I do more so than others. I just clean them with iso until they get uncleanable or falling a part.

I usually stock up on some when they have sales. It’s like $5 for a five pack, so with a sale and shipping it’s decent.

There is also their glass bowl which works great and of course doesn’t require a screen. I like to do a course grind or just hand breakup of the flower for this.

I’m one of those that likes to keep my rig and parts pretty clean, so probably way overkill on my screens, maybe not, I’m interested to hear from others now.

Edit: link to newvape screen, https://www.newvape.com/titanium-screen-woven

Seems they might be out of the five packs? I only get titanium not the brass.

 

[Vaporware]

I should really have said that I understand less mass & profile, but in what way/why, specifically, are the changes welcome & beneficial in this setup? FYI, I'm a newbie to this vape.
TIA.

It’s just user preference...really, more mass is generally preferred with this type of heater, so while the WeedEater head seems to have enough mass to deliver, it may require a bit higher temp to get comparable results.

The weight of the VRod or ShowerHead on the coil is noticeable, but not at all heavy in my opinion. If you compare it to holding another desktop or even a lot of portables, it’s pretty light.

My current recommendations would be:

VRod if you use (or ever plan to use) concentrates much.

WeedEater if you’re only interested in flower *and* don’t mind being on the “bleeding edge” where you might see small problems or revisions come up. I don’t expect anything right now, but the VRod did go through several revisions early on.

ShowerHead (or VRod) if you’re only interested in flower and you want something with a solid track record and little chance of imminent revisions.

The only small drawback I see with the VRod is that at some temps with some draw speeds I can get a little bit of a dark ring on the flower which I never got with the ShowerHead. Even that’s not a huge deal unless you really hate stirring.

Do you guys ever replace the screen? (joke! )

Seriously, what are my options? It's been 15 months of daily use, I don't think it was meant for this .
We've been through some good times, but you're falling apart now .

No. (Not a joke! )

Seriously, I’ve been using the same double weave Ti screens for almost 15 months of (light) daily use and they’re still in good shape!

I did get some extras though, so maybe I’ll swap them out some day...

 

[zor]

Hey guys! I have a ton to catch up on this thread, looks like a bunch of activity in the past month, I've missed this place so much.

I am in the process of assembling a small smell-proof travel bag for my flowerpot and I'm seeking your suggestions for a small glass piece ....something portable would be around 6" in height and not too intricate. The most important factor, for me, is that it be very stable supporting the weight of the flowerpot arm so that it doesn't top over easily. I don't really care to fill it with water, fwiw. Any suggestions from you guys?

 

[invertedisdead]

Hey guys! I have a ton to catch up on this thread, looks like a bunch of activity in the past month, I've missed this place so much.

I am in the process of assembling a small smell-proof travel bag for my flowerpot and I'm seeking your suggestions for a small glass piece ....something portable would be around 6" in height and not too intricate. The most important factor, for me, is that it be very stable supporting the weight of the flowerpot arm so that it doesn't top over easily. I don't really care to fill it with water, fwiw. Any suggestions from you guys?

I like something with a flared bottom for stability. I got a piece recently from a LHS about 6" tall, 5 slit showerhead perc, 14mm joint. Sorry for the horrible picture. It's pretty stable though!

 

[okc0mputer]

Hey guys! I have a ton to catch up on this thread, looks like a bunch of activity in the past month, I've missed this place so much.

I am in the process of assembling a small smell-proof travel bag for my flowerpot and I'm seeking your suggestions for a small glass piece ....something portable would be around 6" in height and not too intricate. The most important factor, for me, is that it be very stable supporting the weight of the flowerpot arm so that it doesn't top over easily. I don't really care to fill it with water, fwiw. Any suggestions from you guys?

It's about 3.5 inches tall, maybe 6 with the mouthpiece. Really sturdy, thick glass, and great with no water.

 

[EmDeemo]

I don't like the increased draw resistance of capped, though I understand the appeal for folks wanting to stay on the lower side, temp wise.

More holes equals no draw resistance, just as fast extraction, lower temps.

Hey @NewVape710 , wasnt there talk of something new coming this week? Is that still happening?

 

[muunch]

Hey @NewVape710 , wasnt there talk of something new coming this week? Is that still happening?

Sure seems so!

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bu7A0FQgxmW/

 

[EmDeemo]

Sure seems so!

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bu7A0FQgxmW/

Oooh, new shiny things!

I wonder if I'll want this one...