Canada to legalize in Spring 2017!

howie105

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Once again some users peer to the north and wonder why not us? NY state (residence) may be one of the last going open market in the NE not because it has a shortage of users, but in part because they are looking for the most easily administered and profitable distribution model. Sadly, this means watching other states and possibly Canada shape the regional marketplace to a large degree, but in the end they will have a taxation and control model they want. The actual retailing of the product will probably resemble that of alcohol. with everything from high end niche markets through midrange mass reach retailers all the way down to gas stations/convenience store outlets. but the back end will be unique to the state. If only the whole nation had started working on a national market model years ago we could all be legal by now and not suffering from northern green envy.
 

Alex3oe

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fucking stupid people here on the streets and in the government, celebrating the Oktoberfest but for doing weed you got harshest treatment in whole Europe

sorry for the rant :(
 

howie105

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fucking stupid people here on the streets and in the government, celebrating the Oktoberfest but for doing weed you got harshest treatment in whole Europe

sorry for the rant :(

.......Your rant has driven me to drugs. Thanks :)
 
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macbill

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Canadian universities, colleges expand course offerings for careers in marijuana industry

From growing the perfect crop to marketing within restrictive rules, Canadian colleges and universities are cultivating courses for those wanting to work in the booming marijuana industry.

Kwantlen Polytechnic University started offering online courses in cannabis production, marketing and financing about three years ago after officials at the British Columbia school realized there was a need for training and education around medicinal marijuana, said David Purcell, the university's director of emerging business.
 

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LCBO opts for Shopify to run online marijuana sales

The Ontario government has inked a deal to use Shopify Inc.'s e-commerce platform for cannabis sales online and in stores as part of its plan to be the province's sole distributor of legal recreational marijuana.


And, in Ontario, they're going to use Shopify for mobile and online sales.

http://mjinews.com/ontario-shopify-online-cannabis-sales/
On Feb. 12, 2018, the Canadian Press revealed that Ontario is partnering with Shopify to run provincial mobile and online cannabis sales once the recreational cannabis market opens in July.

“We look forward to combining our expertise as a socially responsible retailer with Shopify’s world-class commerce solutions to deliver the safe, informed and reliable shopping experience that our new customers will expect,” said George Soleas, president and CEO of the Liquor Control Board of Ontario, as reported by the Canadian Press.​
 
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Canada postpones marijuana legalization

Canadians will have to wait until at least early August or later to legally purchase recreational marijuana.

As recently as last week, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's government was insisting it was on track for legalization in July. But given a new Senate timetable to pass the legislation, Health Minister Ginette Petitpas Taylor conceded Thursday it won't be done in July.
 
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Canada postpones marijuana legalization

Canadians will have to wait until at least early August or later to legally purchase recreational marijuana.

As recently as last week, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's government was insisting it was on track for legalization in July. But given a new Senate timetable to pass the legislation, Health Minister Ginette Petitpas Taylor conceded Thursday it won't be done in July.

Patience, peoplekind....
 
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Tranquility

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Good thing they're going legal as medical is going to be harder to get a prescription for.

Popular press.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/medical-cannabis-guidelines-alberta-1.4537039
A new medical marijuana guideline developed by Edmonton researchers warns physicians that the risks may outweigh the benefits for the vast majority of patients.

The guideline, published Thursday in the Canadian Family Physician journal, suggests the benefits of medical cannabis may be overstated, and research on its medicinal properties is sorely lacking.

Canadian doctors should think twice before prescribing the drug, said Mike Allan, who led the research team.

"For most things we shouldn't be recommending it, because we don't have enough research to say if the benefits of the therapy outweigh the risks of the therapy," said Allan, director of evidence-based medicine at the University of Alberta.
The study.
http://www.cfp.ca/content/64/2/111
Recommendations summary
General recommendation

We recommend against use of medical cannabinoids for most medical conditions owing to lack of evidence of benefit and known harms (strong recommendation)

-Potential exceptions are reviewed below: some types of pain, CINV, and spasticity due to MS or SCI

Management of pain

Acute pain: We strongly recommend against use of medical cannabinoids for acute pain management owing to evidence of no benefit and known harms (strong recommendation)

Headache: We recommend against use of medical cannabinoids for headache owing to lack of evidence and known harms (strong recommendation)

Rheumatologic pain: We recommend against use of medical cannabinoids for pain associated with rheumatologic conditions (including osteoarthritis and back pain) owing to lack of evidence and known harms (strong recommendation)

Neuropathic pain: We recommend against medical cannabinoids as first- or second-line therapy in neuropathic pain owing to limited benefits and high risk of harms (strong recommendation)

-Clinicians could consider medical cannabinoids for refractory neuropathic pain, with the following considerations (weak recommendation):

— a discussion has taken place with patients regarding the benefits and risks of medical cannabinoids for pain

— patients have had a reasonable therapeutic trial* of ≥ 3 prescribed analgesics† and have persistent problematic pain despite optimized analgesic therapy

— medical cannabinoids are adjuncts to other prescribed analgesics

Palliative (end-of-life) cancer pain: We recommend against use of medical cannabinoids as first- or second-line therapy for palliative cancer pain owing to limited benefits and high risk of harms (strong recommendation)

-Clinicians could consider medical cannabinoids for refractory pain in palliative cancer patients, with the following considerations (weak recommendation):

— a discussion has taken place with patients regarding the risks and benefits of medical cannabinoids for pain

— patients have had a reasonable therapeutic trial* of ≥ 2 prescribed analgesics and have persistent problematic pain despite optimized analgesic therapy

— medical cannabinoids are adjuncts to other prescribed analgesics

Types of medical cannabinoids for pain:

-If considering medical cannabinoids, we recommend a pharmaceutically developed product (nabilone or nabiximols) as the initial agent (strong recommendation)

— Nabilone is off-label for pain and has limited evidence of benefit. However, it is less expensive than nabiximols and dosing is more consistent than for smoked cannabis

— Nabiximols is expensive and, in some provinces, only available through specialist prescribing or special authorization. However, nabiximols has better evidence than nabilone does

-If considering medical cannabinoids, we recommend against medical marijuana (particularly smoked) as the initial product (strong recommendation)

— Evidence for smoked cannabis has a very high risk of bias, and long-term consequences are unknown

— Products available can have far higher concentrations of THC and CBD than those researched

Management of nausea and vomiting

General: We recommend against use of medical cannabinoids for general nausea and vomiting owing to the lack of evidence and known harms (strong recommendation)

-We strongly recommend against medical cannabinoids for nausea and vomiting in pregnancy or hyperemesis gravidarum owing to the lack of evidence, known harms, and unknown harms (strong recommendation)

CINV: We recommend against use of medical cannabinoids as first- or second-line therapy for CINV owing to limited comparisons with first-line agents and known harms (strong recommendation)

-Clinicians could consider medical cannabinoids for treatment of refractory CINV, with the following considerations (weak recommendation):

— a discussion has taken place with patients regarding the risks and benefits of medical cannabinoids for CINV

— patients have had a reasonable therapeutic trial of standard therapies‡ and have persistent CINV

— medical cannabinoids are adjuncts to other prescribed therapies

Types of medical cannabinoids for CINV:

-If considering medical cannabinoids, we recommend nabilone (strong recommendation)

— We recommend against nabiximols and medical marijuana (smoked, oils, or edibles), as it is inadequately studied (strong recommendation)

— While dronabinol has been studied, it is no longer available in Canada

Management of spasticity

General: We recommend against use of medical cannabinoids for general spasticity owing to lack of evidence and known harms (strong recommendation)

Spasticity in MS or SCI: We recommend against use of medical cannabinoids as first- or second-line therapy for spasticity in MS or SCI owing to limited evidence and known harms (strong recommendation)

-Clinicians could consider medical cannabinoids for refractory spasticity in MS and SCI, with the following considerations (weak recommendation):

— a discussion has taken place with patients regarding the benefits and risks of medical cannabinoids for spasticity

— patients have had a reasonable therapeutic trial of standard therapies (including nonpharmaceutical measures)§ and have persistent spasticity

Types of medical cannabinoids for spasticity:

-If considering medical cannabinoids, we recommend nabiximols (strong recommendation)

— We recommend against medical marijuana (smoked, oils, or edibles), as it is inadequately studied (strong recommendation)

— Clinicians could consider nabilone owing to its lower cost; however, it is off-label and lacks evidence for this use (weak recommendation)

CBD—cannabidiol, CINV—chemotherapy-induced nausea and vomiting, MS—multiple sclerosis, SCI—spinal cord injury, THC—tetrahydrocannabinol.

*Reasonable therapeutic trial is defined as 6 wk of therapy with an appropriate dose, dose titration, and monitoring (eg, function, quality of life).

†Other prescribed therapies for neuropathic pain management include, but are not limited to (in no particular order), tricyclic antidepressants (eg, amitriptyline, nortriptyline), gabapentinoids (gabapentin, pregabalin), or selective norepinephrine reuptake inhibitor antidepressants (duloxetine, venlafaxine). The committee believed that ≥ 3 medications should be trialed before considering cannabinoids or opioids.

‡Other prescribed therapies for CINV include, but are not limited to (in no particular order), serotonin antagonists (eg, ondansetron), neurokinin-1 receptor antagonists (aprepitant, fosaprepitant), corticosteroids (dexamethasone), and dopamine antagonists (prochlorperazine, metoclopramide).

§Other therapies for spasticity in MS include, but are not limited to (in no particular order), daily stretching, range-of-movement exercises, baclofen, gabapentin, tizanidine, dantrolene, benzodiazepine, or botulinum toxin.​
 

Alexis

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Good thing they're going legal as medical is going to be harder to get a prescription for.

Popular press.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/medical-cannabis-guidelines-alberta-1.4537039
A new medical marijuana guideline developed by Edmonton researchers warns physicians that the risks may outweigh the benefits for the vast majority of patients.

The guideline, published Thursday in the Canadian Family Physician journal, suggests the benefits of medical cannabis may be overstated, and research on its medicinal properties is sorely lacking.

Canadian doctors should think twice before prescribing the drug, said Mike Allan, who led the research team.

"For most things we shouldn't be recommending it, because we don't have enough research to say if the benefits of the therapy outweigh the risks of the therapy," said Allan, director of evidence-based medicine at the University of Alberta.
The study.
http://www.cfp.ca/content/64/2/111
Recommendations summary
General recommendation

We recommend against use of medical cannabinoids for most medical conditions owing to lack of evidence of benefit and known harms (strong recommendation)

-Potential exceptions are reviewed below: some types of pain, CINV, and spasticity due to MS or SCI

Management of pain

Acute pain: We strongly recommend against use of medical cannabinoids for acute pain management owing to evidence of no benefit and known harms (strong recommendation)

Headache: We recommend against use of medical cannabinoids for headache owing to lack of evidence and known harms (strong recommendation)

Rheumatologic pain: We recommend against use of medical cannabinoids for pain associated with rheumatologic conditions (including osteoarthritis and back pain) owing to lack of evidence and known harms (strong recommendation)

Neuropathic pain: We recommend against medical cannabinoids as first- or second-line therapy in neuropathic pain owing to limited benefits and high risk of harms (strong recommendation)

-Clinicians could consider medical cannabinoids for refractory neuropathic pain, with the following considerations (weak recommendation):

— a discussion has taken place with patients regarding the benefits and risks of medical cannabinoids for pain

— patients have had a reasonable therapeutic trial* of ≥ 3 prescribed analgesics† and have persistent problematic pain despite optimized analgesic therapy

— medical cannabinoids are adjuncts to other prescribed analgesics

Palliative (end-of-life) cancer pain: We recommend against use of medical cannabinoids as first- or second-line therapy for palliative cancer pain owing to limited benefits and high risk of harms (strong recommendation)

-Clinicians could consider medical cannabinoids for refractory pain in palliative cancer patients, with the following considerations (weak recommendation):

— a discussion has taken place with patients regarding the risks and benefits of medical cannabinoids for pain

— patients have had a reasonable therapeutic trial* of ≥ 2 prescribed analgesics and have persistent problematic pain despite optimized analgesic therapy

— medical cannabinoids are adjuncts to other prescribed analgesics

Types of medical cannabinoids for pain:

-If considering medical cannabinoids, we recommend a pharmaceutically developed product (nabilone or nabiximols) as the initial agent (strong recommendation)

— Nabilone is off-label for pain and has limited evidence of benefit. However, it is less expensive than nabiximols and dosing is more consistent than for smoked cannabis

— Nabiximols is expensive and, in some provinces, only available through specialist prescribing or special authorization. However, nabiximols has better evidence than nabilone does

-If considering medical cannabinoids, we recommend against medical marijuana (particularly smoked) as the initial product (strong recommendation)

— Evidence for smoked cannabis has a very high risk of bias, and long-term consequences are unknown

— Products available can have far higher concentrations of THC and CBD than those researched

Management of nausea and vomiting

General: We recommend against use of medical cannabinoids for general nausea and vomiting owing to the lack of evidence and known harms (strong recommendation)

-We strongly recommend against medical cannabinoids for nausea and vomiting in pregnancy or hyperemesis gravidarum owing to the lack of evidence, known harms, and unknown harms (strong recommendation)

CINV: We recommend against use of medical cannabinoids as first- or second-line therapy for CINV owing to limited comparisons with first-line agents and known harms (strong recommendation)

-Clinicians could consider medical cannabinoids for treatment of refractory CINV, with the following considerations (weak recommendation):

— a discussion has taken place with patients regarding the risks and benefits of medical cannabinoids for CINV

— patients have had a reasonable therapeutic trial of standard therapies‡ and have persistent CINV

— medical cannabinoids are adjuncts to other prescribed therapies

Types of medical cannabinoids for CINV:

-If considering medical cannabinoids, we recommend nabilone (strong recommendation)

— We recommend against nabiximols and medical marijuana (smoked, oils, or edibles), as it is inadequately studied (strong recommendation)

— While dronabinol has been studied, it is no longer available in Canada

Management of spasticity

General: We recommend against use of medical cannabinoids for general spasticity owing to lack of evidence and known harms (strong recommendation)

Spasticity in MS or SCI: We recommend against use of medical cannabinoids as first- or second-line therapy for spasticity in MS or SCI owing to limited evidence and known harms (strong recommendation)

-Clinicians could consider medical cannabinoids for refractory spasticity in MS and SCI, with the following considerations (weak recommendation):

— a discussion has taken place with patients regarding the benefits and risks of medical cannabinoids for spasticity

— patients have had a reasonable therapeutic trial of standard therapies (including nonpharmaceutical measures)§ and have persistent spasticity

Types of medical cannabinoids for spasticity:

-If considering medical cannabinoids, we recommend nabiximols (strong recommendation)

— We recommend against medical marijuana (smoked, oils, or edibles), as it is inadequately studied (strong recommendation)

— Clinicians could consider nabilone owing to its lower cost; however, it is off-label and lacks evidence for this use (weak recommendation)

CBD—cannabidiol, CINV—chemotherapy-induced nausea and vomiting, MS—multiple sclerosis, SCI—spinal cord injury, THC—tetrahydrocannabinol.

*Reasonable therapeutic trial is defined as 6 wk of therapy with an appropriate dose, dose titration, and monitoring (eg, function, quality of life).

†Other prescribed therapies for neuropathic pain management include, but are not limited to (in no particular order), tricyclic antidepressants (eg, amitriptyline, nortriptyline), gabapentinoids (gabapentin, pregabalin), or selective norepinephrine reuptake inhibitor antidepressants (duloxetine, venlafaxine). The committee believed that ≥ 3 medications should be trialed before considering cannabinoids or opioids.

‡Other prescribed therapies for CINV include, but are not limited to (in no particular order), serotonin antagonists (eg, ondansetron), neurokinin-1 receptor antagonists (aprepitant, fosaprepitant), corticosteroids (dexamethasone), and dopamine antagonists (prochlorperazine, metoclopramide).

§Other therapies for spasticity in MS include, but are not limited to (in no particular order), daily stretching, range-of-movement exercises, baclofen, gabapentin, tizanidine, dantrolene, benzodiazepine, or botulinum toxin.​
Well isn't that just typical of the bastards up top to fight back pettily, unjustly through every intricate little cranny they can, to block and ruin every good thing possible. EVEN when it looks like the ship has sailed they come up with their cunning, evil, bullshit blueprint masterpiece that looks, on the surface, like a very nice considerate, rational, fair and just plan to try and help and protect us all in a purely, unbiassed professional manner! Well done to them :clap::argh:

Sorry, I feel real passion on this and the way these tyrants dominate our rights and freedom on earth. Of course a huge part of this, if not the biggest (I don't think it is so clear cut) is selling more drugs, and controlling health freedom, keeping people sick and dependant.

They are however, desperately scrambling around exploring all possible cohert measures to prolong the inevitable, eventual awakening of dumbed down humanity.
 
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CheeseSandwich

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I would imagine they will try to abolish the ACMPR once legalization kicks in, whenever it does. They don't seem interested in even exempting it from taxation. Try to herd us like cattle into their BS stores... :horse: I guess
 

unsorted

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Well isn't that just typical of the bastards up top to fight back pettily, unjustly through every intricate little cranny they can, to block and ruin every good thing possible. EVEN when it looks like the ship has sailed they come up with their cunning, evil, bullshit blueprint masterpiece that looks, on the surface, like a very nice considerate, rational, fair and just plan to try and help and protect us all in a purely, unbiassed professional manner! Well done to them :clap::argh:

Sorry, I feel real passion on this and the way these tyrants dominate our rights and freedom on earth. Of course a huge part of this, if not the biggest (I don't think it is so clear cut) is selling more drugs, and controlling health freedom, keeping people sick and dependant.

They are however, desperately scrambling around exploring all possible cohert measures to prolong the inevitable, eventual awakening of dumbed down humanity.

The motherfuckers just won't die
 

Alexis

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The motherfuckers just won't die
On the contrary, the "real", as in, ACTUAL motherfuckers are so friggin sick, twisted, deluded and deranged- they belive they can achieve immortality with their "illuminated" secrets of the globe and beyond, which they guard to their graves (which they don't think they will ever need.) They just want us off the earth first (keeping a lucky 500,000,000 workforce.)

We have been teetering on the verge of a revolution for so long, and it is really hotting up. The elite are desperately working to keep the lid on, dumb us down as much as possible, poison us to the extreme from every avenue they can create (and believe me they can create quite a few) while they continue to manipukate and control the majority of slumbering, unconscious biolgical automatic robot humans.

Im telling you man, we are seeing the most hideous, insane and blatant chemtrailing ever here in the UK. And 95% of the public DO NOT EVEN NOTICE IT! Or have the foggiest notion of what a chemtrail is. Unable to believe that the governments would ever do anything against our best interests.

We have far too many people in the tight grip of hypnotic mind control.
But there is also a gradually increasing, soon to be exponential, rising of consciousness and awakening of very many people.
Some have officially said that the main purpose of the chemtrailing nowadays is related to the changing frequencies of light coming from our evolving sun. The sun is heating up the entire solar system which is claimed to be a natural part of the evolution process or "ascension" as they call it.

And that it is the changing frequencies of light which is crucial in driving this evolution of consciousness on planet Earth. The elite believe that they can slow down the inevitable Awakening of humanity to keep control as long as possible by filling the upper atmosphere with various substances such as aluminium to reflect specific frequencies of sunlight.

An interesting theory which is not too far fetched for myself although I expect it is for many. I'm also certain that there are at least a dozen other Prime purposes and benefits (to "them") to the chemtrailing involving numerous branches and departments of the militarial industrial complex.
 
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Tranquility

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The chemtrails have not affected all. There is a rider for Sunlife some members may be interested in.

http://www.sunlife.ca/static/canada/Sponsor/About Group Benefits/Focus Update/2018/747/747_Focus.pdf?WT.dcsvid=MTE3NjM5MDQ5NTUyS0&WT.mc_id

Since pot does not have a DIN, it can't be covered under drug coverage. At Sunlife, with the optional coverage, pot can now be "Medical services and equipment".
 
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chris 71

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Seriously though , they just better not renag on there promice to legalize it .

Not sure what to make of there guide lines seems to be written by the usually egghead types lol

The part that gets me most is there recomendation to not even give to patients in pallitive care . there dieing anyways . i cant imagine what idiot would tell a dying person no you can have cannabis to ease your pain we arent sure it might have negitive effects on your health what a joke . i doubt that any doctors would actully do that but ya rediculas lol
 

just_the_flu

they say im crazy but i have a good time
Seriously though , they just better not renag on there promice to legalize it


...kinda how i see it is its fine as is now, when legal there will be nothing but regulation... it would not hurt my feeling if they renag as i'm getting my stuff now probably easier than if regulated, also i'm getting it way cheaper than proposed prices...


...legalization will be cool, don't get me wrong, it's as if its legal now though, you just cant advertise it in public... i also understand if your in the city you can buy in a 'store' with no medical license...




...i guess im old school and dont see legalization any better than it is today...
 

chris 71

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I want to legally grow my own thats all i care about . i dont want to buy off anybody legal or black market . just cant be trusted pesticide crap in like three quarters of the despencey grey market crap and pesticides in the lp stuff even if they are so called legal pesticides . i had my licence had a few grows before the new med regs came out . never once used any thing not even neem oil and never had a problem . 4 plants is plenty for me thats all i want
 

Winegums

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I want to legally grow my own thats all i care about . i dont want to buy off anybody legal or black market . just cant be trusted pesticide crap in like three quarters of the despencey grey market crap and pesticides in the lp stuff even if they are so called legal pesticides . i had my licence had a few grows before the new med regs came out . never once used any thing not even neem oil and never had a problem . 4 plants is plenty for me thats all i want
I too have a green thumb that seems to work on anything I touch. I'd love to grow my own, if nothing for the joy of it and experience. I'm patiently awaiting legalization.
 

macbill

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Doctors' group wants to scrap Canada's medical cannabis program
A few weeks ago, at a medical conference for the Canadian Consortium for the Investigation of Cannabinoids in Toronto, things got heated. And that's putting it nicely.

In attendance were scientists who study cannabis, physicians, pharmacists, and nurses. They were all there to discuss what should happen with medical cannabis policy, when the drug becomes legal for anyone to use.

When the Canadian Medical Association started to explain their position, things got ugly. That position in a nutshell? The powerful medical body wants to wash their hands of the medical cannabis program, once the drug is legal.
 
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Canada poised to approve legal marijuana sales; pot shops could be open by late summer

Canada’s government is poised to approve sweeping cannabis legalization as soon as this week and could launch marijuana sales by late summer.

The Canadian Senate, the members of which are appointed rather than elected, is likely to OK a legalization measure Thursday after years of quiet study and discussion. After House approval, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s government expects to launch legal sales as soon as 10 to 12 weeks from now.
 

macbill

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Marijuana bill inches closer to passage with House vote

The Liberal government's bill to legalize recreational marijuana has cleared another vote in the House of Commons — but it still has to get a final stamp of approval from an unpredictable Senate before it can become law.

The Senate had proposed 46 amendments to The Cannabis Act but the Liberal government rejected several major ones last week — including one provision that would have affirmed the provinces' right to ban home cultivation of marijuana.
 

lazylathe

Almost there...
Marijuana bill inches closer to passage with House vote

The Liberal government's bill to legalize recreational marijuana has cleared another vote in the House of Commons — but it still has to get a final stamp of approval from an unpredictable Senate before it can become law.

The Senate had proposed 46 amendments to The Cannabis Act but the Liberal government rejected several major ones last week — including one provision that would have affirmed the provinces' right to ban home cultivation of marijuana.

They are sitting as I type this!
History could be made tonight but I will wait till morning before getting excited.
 

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