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killick

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@ChippyMalone i feel your pain. We had a similar encounter, several times, with our neighbors sons dog. After a couple of eeks of trying to be the good neighbor i went over and told them that it was nothing personal, but next time the 1 (of 4 dogs on their 60 acre ranch) was aggressive to anyone on the road (joggers - a neighbor was going to .3030 it after it chased his wife) or on my property that it would be dealt with and they would have to carry it home. There was never another issue. Just let them know what their worst case scenario is. And if you have to do it, do it quick. Don't be wishy-washy about it, - bad dogs are a reflection of their owners.

Edit - i vape 8 or more times per day. Wanna go sharesies on the thread? I'm not totally vaped now, but just filled an 05 cap with 75% higher thc and 25% high cbd. Cover me, in goin in :)
 
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killick

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We worked quite hard to make sure that Logan, our 'double doodle' is not aggressive and is a good player, with people, kids, dogs and cats. He chases bunnies and squirrels but that's ok. I have no issues with him going off leash anywhere quiet, and all the neighbors know him by sight, and know to call if he's doing anything untoward.
 
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ChippyMalone

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@killick I'd love to share the thread with you. Its a fun place to share my adventures with people I can relate to.

And you are 100% right that its not a dog that is being a poor citizen. That's why I'm going out of my way to not execute the dogs. Yelling and throwing rocks and doing bluff charges at it have always kept it 10 feet away since the last actual bite. But I'm losing patience.

But I assure you, I'm not the least bit afraid. But if I was my neighbor, I'd probably be googling something like:

How do I wash a quart of bear pepper spray off of my dog without sending myself to the emergency room from secondary exposure to a substance that violates the Geneva Convention?

Or

Do I really have to shave my entire dog to find and dig out all the embedded bird shot?

Or

Does it make any sense to pay for liability insurance against dog bites if there is a mountain of legal documents and formal compkaints that would void my policy if I tried to make a claim?
 
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killick

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Have you tried sharing that list of 'things you should likely google soon' with your neighbor? Just tape it to their door, and see what happens./ I'd suspect she will call you names under her breath, and keep her dog under control, at least for awhile. If you know someone with a Taurus 4510 you can carry 5 rounds of 410 shotshell and one .45LC. If you aren't too far from Oroville I might be able to lend you one!

Back from walkies, and suitably floaty, so *bumpity bump* on the thread ;)

Edit - didn't mean to imply you were afraid. I know you have poochies best interests at heart, just don't let poochie get too close as he doesn't know that.
 
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ChippyMalone

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@killick I'm an educator, so I understand that everyone has different learning styles and motivations for doing things they don't want to do.

Some people can accept a logical argument the first time and adjust their behavior accordingly.

Others will consider changing their behavior if an authority figure threatens to punish them.

Others might be motivated by their desire not to be embarrassed/humiliated by their actions.

However, my neighbor is none of those, as I do believe she understands the county law, has not been bothered by fines and reprimands from the sheriff or animal control officers, and the fact that everyone on the street thinks she's a total %$#@ doesn't seem to embarrass her one bit. Hell, I actually heard the sheriff tell her "This redneck from Alabama is not kidding around. He is going to shoot your dog and if you call me to complain about it, I am going to find a reason to arrest you."

So with my best personality/learning style assessment, I believe her to be what we like to call an "experiential learner". It may not be today, it may not be tomorrow, but one day she is going to have a highly motivating educational experience.:nod::nod::nod:

To be honest, I used to be quite the adventurer: cave explorer, extreme rappeller, etc. So having a life or death adventure every time I go to the mailbox is actually a bit of a thrill. I really don't believe these dogs will actually kill me, and I can stop them before they harm me in any way.

I do appreciate your understanding and support.
 
grokit

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My situation isn't as dramatic. I'm also rural, on ~50 acres and have some relatively new neighbors. I like them. They have a young dog that I also like, a real sweetheart up close, but the fucking BITCH never shuts up from any distance. She just doesn't seem to be able to differentiate between serious threats and the guy next door walking around outside his house (me), much less giving me any peace roaming out in the woods or especially around the lake. I used to say/yell hi back, but now I usually cuss (bark) back because frankly it's unpleasant. The one thing that seems to really set her off is a lack of acknowledgement so I feel compelled to react somehow, it also lets the owners know my displeasure.

I had a couple of older labs when they first got here that helped buffer the situation, but they died off and now it's just the cat. And the cat has actually chased this dog off, she's no actual threat at all just noisy; it's almost as funny as it is annoying. I have an old greenhouse on the 'eastern front' that I have put a bb gun in, I shoot close enough to her to scare her which really shuts her up, but this has only worked a couple of times because I have to take her by surprise -- if she hears me pumping the gun she scurrys off. And continues to bark at me incessantly at all other times, basically whenever she can get away with it.

The owners do seem to be trying to correct her/reel her in, but she's stubborn and it's like a game to her I think. I got on a research tangent, there's a ton of sonic deterrents/training aids. Basically electronic squawk boxes and whistles emitting extremely high frequencies. And most of the products are are shit, according to the reviews. But wading through them one product seems to stand out, it's a whistle that is:
  • non-adjustable
  • inaudible to humans
  • excellent over long distances
This is the only one that met all three of the above criteria, and coincidentally got way better reviews than the rest of these products. Without going into why these 3 features matter, here's a picture and a link:

81DQ9agCGcL._SL1500_.jpg

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00PXYRC5Y/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

It might be worth trying a whistle, before deploying the chemical or gun-powdered weapons yes?

It will probably be at least a week before I get to try it, but I have high hopes :tup:
 
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Tuesday evening watching Breaking Bad reruns. Fuck
comcast for charging me $17.99 per season. Working
on season 3.

@ChippyMalone been reading through your
posts. I love walking through nature trails when I can.
Love discovering new beautiful places. Some folks don't
respects the rights of others though unfortunately.
 
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ChippyMalone

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@grokit I ordered that whistle for the simple fact that I really do not enjoy ever yelling, and this will let me yell at those dogs without the owner knowing it or neighborhood kids possibly hearing my potty mouth.

@CarolKing love the vintage pinup. I opened an antique book the other day and two risqué postcards from Paris in the early 1900's fell out. Partially nude ladies with normal looking bodies. Truly the most charming and innocent smut I've ever seen.
 
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Havelock Vetenari

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Being a dog lover i too feel for the animals themselves as they are completely at the mercy of their owners(the neighbour sounds like one of truly the bad ones that ruin it for responsible dogowners) and would like to make a heartfelt plea for other non-lethal ways of deterring them should the need arise.
A can of mace or pepperspray should be more than sufficient to stop most any dog(trained attackdogs and rabies sufferers etc. excluded) and would not leave an innocent animal possibly mortally wounded or maimed.:ugh:

Whatever happens,i do hope you will be free to go about your neighbourhood unhindered as you of course should be absolutely able to!

On another note regarding your own pet,did you see http://www.thundershirt.com/
this link before?
 
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ChippyMalone

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Havelock Vetenari said:
Being a dog lover i too feel for the animals themselves as they are completely at the mercy of their owners(the neighbour sounds like one of truly the bad ones that ruin it for responsible dogowners) and would like to make a heartfelt plea for other non-lethal ways of deterring them should the need arise.
A can of mace or pepperspray should be more than sufficient to stop most any dog(trained attackdogs and rabies sufferers etc. excluded) and would not leave an innocent animal possibly mortally wounded or maimed.:ugh:

Whatever happens,i do hope you will be free to go about your neighbourhood unhindered as you of course should be absolutely able to!

On another note regarding your own pet,did you see http://www.thundershirt.com/
this link before?
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The thundershirts are great for storm phobic animals. We've done dog/cat rescue work for 20 years now, and a bunch of our Saint Bernard rescue friends swear by them.

I'm right there with you when it comes to doing the least harm to the innocent animal unfortunate to have a crappy owner. I could show you a portfolio of photographs of animals we rehabilitated in Alabama that would turn your stomach until you saw the "after" photos.

But there's 250 pounds of dogs (and possibly another neighbor dog who is nice but is known to join in the attacks) coming at me that has bitten people or pets on at least six occasions since September. The time for these animals to be destroyed was months ago.

But now that I've ordered @grokit whistle, I've got a pretty good range of increasingly serious responses:
1) Body language: standing my ground, waving my arms, and doing bluff charges at them
2) Whistle
3) Bear spray
4) pistol rounds that would be almost impossible to kill anything larger than a squirrel at more than 15 feet.
5) lethal pistol rounds.

I'm most interested in setting off this giant can of bear mace because I'm pretty sure that the process of returning her dog to pettable condition will finally get my point across.

But now have a pretty much fool proof comprehensive plan for maintaining my safety, I'm confident to walk to my mailbox. But I still cannot bring my own little dog, and my St. Bernard who could protect me is too big for me to safely walk on a leash anymore. The #1 consideration is preventing an injury that could leave me paralyzed due to my urgent need for additional spinal fusion surgery.

So let's move on, get vaped, and switch subjects. Anybody here like petting various types of moses, lichens, and ferns? Because I do!
 
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Enchantre

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ChippyMalone said:
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So let's move on, get vaped, and switch subjects. Anybody here like petting various types of moses, lichens, and ferns? Because I do!
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One day when you and I and our spouses all feel great, we should road trip together to the Quinault Rain Forest... we love those trails, and there is a wonderful one, called the Maple Leaf Trail (google that), with smooth, mostly even ground, no barriers, and lovely moss, lichens, mushrooms, and ELK! :)

It's a 2-hour drive from Tumwater, unfortunately... so, it's been awhile since we've been there.
 
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grokit said:
My situation isn't as dramatic. I'm also rural, on ~50 acres and have some relatively new neighbors. I like them. They have a young dog that I also like, a real sweetheart up close, but the fucking BITCH never shuts up from any distance. She just doesn't seem to be able to differentiate between serious threats and the guy next door walking around outside his house (me), much less giving me any peace roaming out in the woods or especially around the lake. I used to say/yell hi back, but now I usually cuss (bark) back because frankly it's unpleasant. The one thing that seems to really set her off is a lack of acknowledgement so I feel compelled to react somehow, it also lets the owners know my displeasure.

I had a couple of older labs when they first got here that helped buffer the situation, but they died off and now it's just the cat. And the cat has actually chased this dog off, she's no actual threat at all just noisy; it's almost as funny as it is annoying. I have an old greenhouse on the 'eastern front' that I have put a bb gun in, I shoot close enough to her to scare her which really shuts her up, but this has only worked a couple of times because I have to take her by surprise -- if she hears me pumping the gun she scurrys off. And continues to bark at me incessantly at all other times, basically whenever she can get away with it.

The owners do seem to be trying to correct her/reel her in, but she's stubborn and it's like a game to her I think. I got on a research tangent, there's a ton of sonic deterrents/training aids. Basically electronic squawk boxes and whistles emitting extremely high frequencies. And most of the products are are shit, according to the reviews. But wading through them one product seems to stand out, it's a whistle that is:
  • non-adjustable
  • inaudible to humans
  • excellent over long distances
This is the only one that met all three of the above criteria, and coincidentally got way better reviews than the rest of these products. Without going into why these 3 features matter, here's a picture and a link:

81DQ9agCGcL._SL1500_.jpg

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00PXYRC5Y/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

It might be worth trying a whistle, before deploying the chemical or gun-powdered weapons yes?

It will probably be at least a week before I get to try it, but I have high hopes :tup:
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The dog whistle is a great training aid!!
Used for a very long time by dog trainers.

All you have to do is when she starts to bark, blast the whistle for a good 10 seconds.
Stop and see her reaction.
It will most likely take a few days to weeks to train her but it will work!

Good luck!
 
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killick

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So my cousin is a combat vet with severe ptsd. He hasn't got his license yet, but comes and visits every so often for a 'herb visit'. We went for brekkie this morning and I gave him a demo of a vape as he's never used one before. I've never demo'd one before so it was good for us both. We finished 2 loads of the Inhalater, went to a local 420 shop he knew about, and bought hisself a wee vape that heats with a torch. It goes well with his Christmas present, which had a medical wrapper...

So, needless to say... Bump...

:)
 
clukx

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i might have to check out the dog whistle for my dog, he doesnt bark or bite just a little crazy and hyper, i think he got my adhd??
 
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killick

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@ChippyMalone thanks! We are both in the same boat, but different conflicts. I managed to get through it in better shape than him, but getting together and just chatting about when we were kids and really close (we lost touch for a bunch of years) does us both good.
 
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