Boundless CF / CFX / CF-Hybrid

[RelaxedNow]

I can finally post!

So I have the cfx and I love it but....there's no overheating protection. If you hold power to end session you will see your real current temp. If I set device to 380, I can be vaping anywhere from 382 to 390. If I set it to 430, I've seen as high as 467.

I don't use much inside, so I don't think I combusted anything, but this is very damaging to my throat.

If you try the higher temps, check half way or 3/4 through your session and check your temperature. Is it happening with you guys too?

Personally, my throat can't handle ANY vape at 430. I really think the trick is to find the best temp for the device of choice. Just turn it down until you find a comfortable spot. With the CFX, I like 365, never going over 380.

IMO, it makes no difference what the screen says, as long as it is consistent from one use to the next. The CFX passes this test. Besides, how can one be sure it isn't just giving an incorrect reading when putting it into sleep mode? I don't know the answer to that, but it matters not to me.

 

[mikee336]

Quick question, anyone else have similar coat peeling to this? Or am I the lucky one?

 

[BurtBigMacklin]

@mikee336 do you clean your cf/x with ISO? Someone mentioned that if you get ISO on that part, it can start to peel. Our at least it happened to that users unit.

 

[Highnite]

Is it only jumping after going to sleep, or is it really operating at the higher temperature the entire time, but we don't see the real temp until putting it to sleep?

This is what I'm thinking. Holding power to put it to sleep, it doesn't just jump up, it goes down from the higher temperature like its been operating at the higher temperature the entire time.

I wouldn't mind a few degrees off but I am consistently seeing 10-20°F higher then my actual temperature setting.


PS The base of my mouthpiece gets really hot too, even with only a single session. Try checking to see if the temperature going over is a problem with your device too.

 

[mikee336]

@mikee336 do you clean your cf/x with ISO? Someone mentioned that if you get ISO on that part, it can start to peel. Our at least it happened to that users unit.

Ah, that must be it. I did use an iso cloth to clean out the bowl and some of it probably touched that matte black plastic.

 

[Milkytime]

It is known that because of the way the CF (X) heats the air through a SS heat exchanger if you are hitting it back to back it definitely ramps up in temperature. The ceramic walls hold the heat very well im not suprized its climbing in temperature. I wouldn't say the unit is malfunctioning, but maybe the heat sensor dosent update till you turn it off. Maybe a slight oversight on the sensor?

 

[RelaxedNow]

Is it only jumping after going to sleep, or is it really operating at the higher temperature the entire time, but we don't see the real temp until putting it to sleep?

This is at least the second time this issue has been raised in this thread. Just my opinion, but I seriously doubt that you'll find an answer here.

Admittedly, I'm curious too, and would love to see this resolved. However, it's not really causing me any trouble, so I got over it a while back.

I'll also admit to being somewhat of a fan, as its my favorite portable of the five I've purchased thus far (along with Elevape Smart, OG Firefly, OG Glass VapCap, and Ti Woody VapCap). Not knocking the others, as all have their strengths, but it's the CFX that I use regularly. I actually like it well enough that it may have cured my mild case of VAS.

 

[Vapor_Eyes]

I vape with the philosophy that I can never trust a vape temp because draw speed, airflow, and length of draw always effect what the temperature the actual material is, compared to the temperature the heater is putting out.

I think the big thing with the CFX is there is truly convection going on, along with conduction and radiant heat. When I take long draws with the CFX the temperature of the vapor definitely increases, and that is normal with a convection vape. It's actually a nice feature as you can leave your temp a little lower and still get those big hits when you want without manually adjusting the heat.

I agree with @RelaxedNow that what the screen says is not as important as long as it is consistent from one use to the next.

The CFX temps seem accurate enough to me, and even when testing at 430F, I haven't come close to combusting.

 

[YungLeaner]

I vape with the philosophy that I can never trust a vape temp because draw speed, airflow, and length of draw always effect what the temperature the actual material is, compared to the temperature the heater is putting out.

I think the big thing with the CFX is there is truly convection going on, along with conduction and radiant heat. When I take long draws with the CFX the temperature of the vapor definitely increases, and that is normal with a convection vape. It's actually a nice feature as you can leave your temp a little lower and still get those big hits when you want without manually adjusting the heat.

I agree with @RelaxedNow that what the screen says is not as important as long as it is consistent from one use to the next.

The CFX temps seem accurate enough to me, and even when testing at 430F, I haven't come close to combusting.

I certainly agree. Every vape has a different "working" temperature. 12 on the cloud Evo is supposedly around 375 but it gave clouds and vapor like it was much higher. Meanwhile on the Herbalizer I find no temp below 420 to be useful for what I want and it stays at 445 24/7. It's a distinction mostly based on heat sink, I like high temp hits. The CFX ceramic bowl offers a very large heat sink and radiative heat that makes for thicker clouds on lower temps and as others have said, temp increased with draw. Back to back seasons at 430 will make everything hot...ever touched an oven grill set at 430, just the temp of the air alone will burn you. Vaporizers manage to pass heated air over herbs at specific temps low enough to avoid burning while offering you the opportunity to tune in on your desired terpene / cannabinoid extraction...we're dealing with magic here! Sometimes there's side effects. However for Firefly fans and people who prefer tasty, less cloudy hits the Boundless vapes are not a good buy. I like huge hits, and have found nothing anecdotal or scientific to suggest I'm wrong in thinking that cloudier hits get me higher.

 

[Vapor_Eyes]

I decided to do an experiment after I finished a bowl in my CFX. I left the herb in the chamber, and let it cool down. Then I started another session at 385F, my usual nighttime temp. I let it sit there and didn't hit it at all. When I put it to sleep at 250 seconds into the session, it read 383. During the previous session I managed to get it to 401 after ripping the shit out of it.

I would have to repeat this many times to be truly scientific but I am way too high for that. In any case, I feel my experiment showed that the temps on the CFX are relatively accurate. It didn't "run hot" when left alone, it either was running ever so slightly cool or it was in the middle of a heating cycle.

I personally have no issues with the heater design of the CFX, in fact I think it is this very design that leads to effortless clouds and makes it a great vape for groups. If in actual practice you find yourself reaching higher temperatures than desired simply take shorter draws or lower the temperature.

 

[lomein07]

With my CF I'm rarely grinding and more lazily just stuff hand broken nugs into it. I still get good production and the herb comes out very evenly browned.

I find this ease of use rather amazing and am curious: how many other portable vapes out there can you stuff whole nugs into and get even extraction with no stirring?

 

[YungLeaner]

With my CF I'm rarely grinding and more lazily just stuff hand broken nugs into it. I still get good production and the herb comes out very evenly browned.

I find this ease of use rather amazing and am curious: how many other portable vapes out there can you stuff whole nugs into and get even extraction with no stirring?

I also think it's super impressive. I don't really know of any other portables like that. Maybe the mighty? Not sure

 

[blackbur]

Looking forward to picking up a CF..possibly a cfx soon. I let my friend borrow my og ceramic arizr solo and they attempted to vaporize oil through it..infused cooking oil. i got it back it busted smelling like a big piece of fried chicken..smh.

this vape looks really stellar with a wpa and vxe elbows

 

[YungLeaner]

Looking forward to picking up a CF..possibly a cfx soon. I let my friend borrow my og ceramic arizr solo and they attempted to vaporize oil through it..infused cooking oil. i got it back it busted smelling like a big piece of fried chicken..smh.

this vape looks really stellar with a wpa and vxe elbows

If you liked the solo you'll love the CFX. Better at everything pretty much and less breakable parts. Can totally believe your friend did that lol...I know someone who tried to smoke an infused brownie through a bong once LOL

 

[Daily]

Really looking forward for the next batch of Cf's. I want to try it out..! ( Should be soon right? )
Wondering if the Wpa is sold in Europe, vaposhop doesn't have it yet :/.

 

[lomein07]

Has anyone worked out an alternative mouthpiece for the CF/CFX?

My CF mouthpiece gets too hot for my lips sometimes after two sessions, and I'm not entirely comfortable soaking these plastics in ISO and saving the reclaim. Would rather collect reclaim from glass or metal.

The WPA is all stainless steel right? Perhaps there's a curved glass tube that can attach to the WPA and be used as a direct mouthpiece instead of using a bubbler?

 

[waxdab23]

Has anyone worked out an alternative mouthpiece for the CF/CFX?

My CF mouthpiece gets too hot to touch sometimes after two sessions, and I'm not entirely comfortable soaking these plastics in ISO and saving the reclaim. Would rather collect reclaim from glass or metal.

The WPA is all stainless steel right? Perhaps there's a curved glass tube that can attach to the WPA and be used as a direct mouthpiece instead of using a bubbler?

I was wondering if there might be a mouthpiece that would even screw into that threading in the WPA.

 

[ataxian]

Ya know, I see all the comments about vaping concentrates with cotton, and I can't help wondering how healthy, or unhealthy, it is. Honestly, I tried it once, and it tasted like I'd smoked toxic material. Was I getting it way too hot (I was using a VapCap, so maybe so)?

I use FINN"S organic cotton or Cotton from a supplement bottle.

Tiny Cotton piece in relation to your concentrate.
Cotton is acting as a filter.

Are you really going to live forever?

 

[Grepper]

WOW. Just tried a buddy's CFX for first time. Verry impressive especially at that price point. Unreal rips with the WPA. What a monster of a bowl. Must be 3x bigger compared to my solo. Excited to pick one up ASAP.

 

[Meach]

Haven't grabbed one of these yet but those who have the wpa..would hooking up a jhook be awkward due to the angle of the wpa and glass? I imagine the wpa w a glass jhook would provide yummy cool rips and be more efficient than pulling through a bubbler/bong

 

[stickstones]

Like so?

http://i.imgur.com/ccoZJGE.jpg

 

[Meach]

Yup..that looks like my future home set up..lol

 

[lomein07]

Haven't grabbed one of these yet but those who have the wpa..would hooking up a jhook be awkward due to the angle of the wpa and glass? I imagine the wpa w a glass jhook would provide yummy cool rips and be more efficient than pulling through a bubbler/bong

Like so?

http://i.imgur.com/ccoZJGE.jpg

You guys both answered my question from earlier: whether the WPA can be used with a glass piece as a replacement mouthpiece. This is great. I'm going to look for a small, compact jhook. Thanks!

 

[just_the_flu]

...wholly heat-up-time batman!
I'm digging the CFX for the purpose i bought it for...
I have been using mine with ELB's,
mainly to keep the chamber clean for the interim...

... question for those who use VXH ELB's...
do you use the lid/cap on the ELB?

the only way i can get the ELB's to fit with the lid is if i remove the metal screen from the bottom of the CFX mouth piece.
... the only problem with that is when i twist the CFX lid back on it makes an awful grinding sound - think my ocd is keeping me from using it this way.
The nice thing about having the ELB lid pressed into the CFX lid is the ELB comes out with the lid! and the ELB is fucken hot as hell after!
...I've been removing my ELB (with no lid) by the metal screen on the CFX lid, if pulled up on a slight angle.

 

[Milkytime]

You might have to crush the sides of yhe ELB a tiny bit. I bought a 4 pack 3 fit fine 1 i had to crush the sides a lil. And yes i remove the stock screen and use the hat as you describe to remove the whole bowl, i like to do partial sessions to let myself recover from this cloud machine. This method makes it easy to remove the load mid session, and it's hot as you mentioned.