Gear Best Clearo for Pure Gold?

Haywood

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The chargers I use all require you to wire up your own battery holders and I haven't investigated the more common "all in one" chargers like the Nitecore. If you're willing to wire up your own battery holders, the ones that are suitable range in price from $40 to $100.
 
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I'm going to totally shit on Nitecore and suggest folk buy Xtar or Pila.
 
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zebra

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back to the pure gold - I have some Bud Dex carts just came my way I will let you all know how these new carts work with the thick honey like gold. I also can't help but notice these are the same carts that Bhang is using for their new carts that are getting excellent reviews. maybe the tech finally caught up to E THC....
 
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Sure is cute, Why do you say "not a daily"?

So you either fill the cartridge or just fill the bottom? or both?

These type Joyetech atomizers were once popular in the eGo format for e-liquid, but they tended to leak, so they've repositioned them as micro e-cigs. How's it doing with the (thicker) oils? No leaks and no burning?
 
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I've had great results using Pure Gold with Joytec's eRoll. Stealthy, decent taste and HUGE clouds. Not a daily driver however this device has its place. Loading is a breeze with Tetra Lab's squeeze tubes. Want more flavor? Check out the spoiler.


That is interesting. Looks like a little bit more work than the BUD style carts where you just squeeze the oil in and that's it. Can you fit one full ampule of PG in or do you have to kind of keep it in a jar and scoop in smaller amounts daily? Part of what I love about the BUD style is the simplicity and ease of use...
 
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Hey @zebra, are those the red ones? Can you put up a link?

Exactly they seem to have a red band around them.... Trying to attach a picture... Will attach a link as well...
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Buddy-DEX-0...035?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item339d2450fb


if you read the info in the link, which of course COULD be snake oil bullshit, it does sound kind of like the dream cart we've been waiting for. but it could also be all spin and bullshit. I'll know in a couple of weeks when they arrive!
 
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Sure is cute, Why do you say "not a daily"?

So you either fill the cartridge or just fill the bottom? or both?

These type Joyetech atomizers were once popular in the eGo format for e-liquid, but they tended to leak, so they've repositioned them as micro e-cigs. How's it doing with the (thicker) oils? No leaks and no burning?

Not a daily for me because I get bored with the Pure Gold flavor and have several other vaporizers at my disposal. Its great for certain situations.

I usually just squeeze a Pure Gold ampule in the tank. No leak problems for me with these. Filling the actual atomizer is a flavor booster, thats it. "The Clear" concentrate has an amazing flavor (and strength!).

I've been using them ever since introduction a couple years ago. Sometimes you get the foul taste when the concentrate is not on the coil. Of course these were designed for ejuice so the viscous Pure Gold doesn't flow as fast. I just turn so that gravity introduces material on the coil for a nice draw. Doesn't happen much, get a reliable decent draw almost every use. Haven't had any burning problems either.

That is interesting. Looks like a little bit more work than the BUD style carts where you just squeeze the oil in and that's it. Can you fit one full ampule of PG in or do you have to kind of keep it in a jar and scoop in smaller amounts daily? Part of what I love about the BUD style is the simplicity and ease of use...

Not really much work, just squeeze a Pure Gold ampule in the tank, attach and thats it. BTW those Buddy Dex's look pretty good. I may have to try one.

The scooping of "The Clear" concentrate (from the jar) is only a flavor enhancement trick. Not necessary. Just thought I'd share a flavor secret, hence the spoiler.

You can get about 80% of the ampule in there without hassle, but I've managed to fill all of it in there before. Just fill what you can, attach, let it fill the atomizer, take off and top off the tank.
 
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fernand

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It's basically a Sapphire that can be taken apart. Got to be FAR better. The only thing is you have to dedicate both cart and atomizer to that particular oil. I like having several very different strains all ready to go. But I can appreciate this fer sure!
 
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GuyLeDuche

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I have been using the red BUD DEX tanks for a month or so with mixed results tbh. If you like short little nips they may work fine for you, but when I try to take a bigger pull I get a nasty taste (with about a 50/50 bho-EJmix ratio). The last tank I filled was just a chunk of shatter(maybe .25g) with a few drops of EJ and it seemed to like the thicker mix so idk. Very nice quality parts though, seems like a thick sturdy tank with a good shaped mouthpiece. I got a 5-pack from ebay and 4 of them are still working, maybe 2-3 refills each, but that is with some nursing. The one not working I hit too hard and torched the wick lol, perma-burnt taste. So in short I do like them better than Sapphires, but not quite the final answer for me.
 
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I have been using the red BUD DEX tanks for a month or so with mixed results tbh. If you like short little nips they may work fine for you, but when I try to take a bigger pull I get a nasty taste (with about a 50/50 bho-EJmix ratio). The last tank I filled was just a chunk of shatter(maybe .25g) with a few drops of EJ and it seemed to like the thicker mix so idk. Very nice quality parts though, seems like a thick sturdy tank with a good shaped mouthpiece. I got a 5-pack from ebay and 4 of them are still working, maybe 2-3 refills each, but that is with some nursing. The one not working I hit too hard and torched the wick lol, perma-burnt taste. So in short I do like them better than Sapphires, but not quite the final answer for me.

cool thank you for info I will be sure and update as soon as I can. I was previously using the sapphire carts so I imagine this will be a straight upgrade for me, just looks like a better version of that cart. Only reason i got into the search is cause gotvapes ran out of sapphires months ago and has been kind of jerking me around so I wanted to find the next easy disposable cart that I can trust with my pricey concentrates and this looks like it!
 
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I'm a hard core vaper, I started with high nicotine amounts in flavored VG (glycerin) and PG (propylene glycol) four and a half years ago to quit cigarettes, and gradually lowered the nicotine. I sit at the computer now and chain vape zero-nicotine flavored VG like there's no tomorrow. But I know the gear inside out, I build my own, I mix my own liquids. And I can tell you that you cannot expect today's e-cig equipment to vaporize cannabinoids the way it vaporizes water-soluble glycerin-glycol-nicotine blends. It's apples and oranges, if you will. A lot of people are misled into buying gear that cannot work.

I see people here also talk about how well a rig vapes, how it makes "monster clouds". But thick vapor to the e-cig user is not significant as a nicotine carrier, it's a psychological replacement for smoke. Smokers get a mysterious pleasure out of puffing and blowing smoke (I do), and vaping is effective as a smoking cessation aid in part because of the "hand to mouth" ritual, and the billows of simulated smoke. The amount of nicotine is set in the liquid blend, not the thickness or amount of vapor. A liquid very high in nicotine and Propylene Glycol might make less vapor, and it's been noticed that today's higher power "monster cloud rebuildable atomizers" are used with weaker nicotine liquids. It's more complicated than it seems.

People who combust cannabis, associate more smoke with more cannabinoids. But in a vaporizer situation the cannabinoids can vaporize at different temperatures, and often with no visible vapor, because these oils are basically transparent. At high temperatures, decomposition starts to take place and that creates more opaque "smoke", but not more cannabinoids.

So what I'm saying, and forgive me repeating it, is that people will be much happier vaping cannabis by taking a really fresh approach, not applying older models. Chasing big clouds by heating the stuff harder is most likely to just waste material and create clouds of (actually) less psychoactive and less healthy (breakdown) products to inhale.

As to adapting e-cig gear, as a cannabis vaper you either have to come up with a different design, or live with some significant differences and compromises, like pre-heating the oil to give it half a chance at wicking, figuring out an ideal ratio of oil to thinners (like EJMix), and always giving the poor (misapplied) atomizer a chance by using low voltage and very slow drags to prevent burning.
 
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I'm a hard core vaper, I started with high nicotine amounts in flavored VG (glycerin) and PG (propylene glycol) four and a half years ago to quit cigarettes, and gradually lowered the nicotine. I sit at the computer now and chain vape zero-nicotine flavored VG like there's no tomorrow. But I know the gear inside out, I build my own, I mix my own liquids. And I can tell you that you cannot expect today's e-cig equipment to vaporize cannabinoids the way it vaporizes water-soluble glycerin-glycol-nicotine blends. It's apples and oranges, if you will. A lot of people are misled into buying gear that cannot work.

I see people here also talk about how well a rig vapes, how it makes "monster clouds". But thick vapor to the e-cig user is not significant as a nicotine carrier, it's a psychological replacement for smoke. Smokers get a mysterious pleasure out of puffing and blowing smoke (I do), and vaping is effective as a smoking cessation aid in part because of the "hand to mouth" ritual, and the billows of simulated smoke. The amount of nicotine is set in the liquid blend, not the thickness or amount of vapor. A liquid very high in nicotine and Propylene Glycol might make less vapor, and it's been noticed that today's higher power "monster cloud rebuildable atomizers" are used with weaker nicotine liquids. It's more complicated than it seems.

People who combust cannabis, associate more smoke with more cannabinoids. But in a vaporizer situation the cannabinoids can vaporize at different temperatures, and often with no visible vapor, because these oils are basically transparent. At high temperatures, decomposition starts to take place and that creates more opaque "smoke", but not more cannabinoids.

So what I'm saying, and forgive me repeating it, is that people will be much happier vaping cannabis by taking a really fresh approach, not applying older models. Chasing big clouds by heating the stuff harder is most likely to just waste material and create clouds of (actually) less psychoactive and less healthy (breakdown) products to inhale.

As to adapting e-cig gear, as a cannabis vaper you either have to come up with a different design, or live with some significant differences and compromises, like pre-heating the oil to give it half a chance at wicking, figuring out an ideal ratio of oil to thinners (like EJMix), and always giving the poor (misapplied) atomizer a chance by using low voltage and very slow drags to prevent burning.

I think we all understand that, but we still come here to chase the best possible e-THC rig available to us at our desired level of convenience, price, and ease of use. I know I am not chasing after "big clouds" or anything like that, just a reliable, easy to use device that gets the job done. Not looking for perfection here...

Totally agree that nearly all this stuff is basically retrofitted e-cig gear, but guys like myself are here looking for the BEST retrofitted e-cig gear for THC vaping, since we have neither the time money nor inclination to start building mods from scratch. Particularly, I am constantly looking for the best e-cig carts/clearos for pure gold (hence the name of the thread), which does happen to be one of the easier-to-vape-in-a-discreet-pen concentrates out there today.
 

GuyLeDuche

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I would just love a tank that tasted good for more than a day lol. I'm too cheap to throw out a MPT3 atty every morning and all the disposables I've tried only seem to like co2 based mix. They usually work with shatter or wax mixed with ejmix, but they have minimal vapor and no flavor before the first fill is gone. At this point I've just compromised and started using a Seego Vhit type B. It comes with 3 heads that are threaded to take a cap (supposedly keeps the splash off the pyrex), and I have a few spare caps, so I just load 3-4 hits in all 3 heads and cap them off. If that won't get me thru what I'm doing then I need a bug-out kit lol. Far from ideal for my needs, but until I find a better path....
 
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Sure, loading up the Vhhit ceramic rods with wax works. I'm managing best by babying the mini ProTank2s. I keep a different 100% dark oil in each one (plus a PureGold one). I'll pulse one to get the erl thinned and wicking, then take 3 gradual slow hits while being very attentive to what's happening. Never rush, never expect too much. If it's necessary, warm it and suction just a bit to pull erl into the tabernacle.

Haven't needed it with these, but I'd drip a drop or two of EJMix down the barrel if it even vaguely looked like a dry hit was coming.

I dripped EJMix on the wicks before assembling the mPT2s, so the oil had some compatible (lipophillic) substance to start wicking with. It wouldn't wick very well at all starting on dry silica.

The little Sapphire types, granted they are different in that they carry a less viscous 30% EJMix blend, start out well, but end up seeping, and also just go to hell taste-wise. In other words they clog, stop wicking well, and start burning. You can see the seeping and the familiar kleenex love-nest, while the mPT2s show no signs of leaking. But it takes treating the whole process kind of like that Humphrey Bogart movie where they're driving a truck full o'nitro in the mountains. If anyone comes up with a setup that can be used like an automatic transmission on the highway, I'd love to hear about it.

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Do you find the taste of the Pure Gold tank holds up longer that the darker stuff? I had some light leaks with the MPT3, but the main reason I gave up on them was the taste degraded so quickly. My understanding was that the waxes and other impurities were junking up the attys, so I can see how PG users have had better luck.
 
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With nicotine liquids, the standard procedure is to rinse and dry burn atomizers. Every few days if you like a clean taste. Of course you dump excess liquid. With precious oils, that's not very practical.

So if one could sync things so you consume the oil by the time it's time to do a deep cleaning, or invert the device to pool all the recoverable oil, replace the coil/wick with a fresh one wetted with EJMix, and turn it back the other way, let the oil wick into the wick, add some more.

But my first question is what exactly is causing the bad taste?
 
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GuyLeDuche

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May have been user error tbh, but for me I wouldn't even call it bad taste, just that a fresh tank/atty tasted close to a LayG but as I used it up the flavor faded til the last half was pretty flat. To be fair I never got the newer attys, just the old 1 hole and 2 hole. Not sure they ever fed enough juice and maybe I was burning up the attys by not using good draw tek...
 
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zebra

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I am back on the hunt. Not thrilled with the Bud Dex from GotVapes at all. If anything it seems like a big step down from the v4 sapphire as it doesn't hold quite as much (though Gotvapes couldn't be bothered to update the product page to reflect this), tastes awful, and replaced a beloved item then had no business being retired. Nicer mouthpiece so that's something, though, I guess?

The most frustrating part is that this v5 cart was supposedly "Designed for thicker oils"! If this thing couldn't really wick pure gold that well I can't even imagine the horrid taste a user would receive when trying to vape thicker stuff. It's so annoying to have to "test" this stuff with pricey concentrates too, that now I have to "suffer" through until the cart is empty. Happy to be medicated but the taste is really terrible. Like tire fire terrible.

Very disappointed in GotVapes for both getting rid of the old v4 and half assedly reintroducing this POS as some sort of "upgrade". Now I will have to look for the older style BUD510 carts on ebay and just hope that whomever I buy from has done the type of testing that Gotvapes does (well, previously did) to ensure I dont get a misfire on a pricey ampule of Pure Gold.

There's an old saying, if it ain't broke don't fix it. Wise words.
 
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I am back on the hunt. Not thrilled with the Bud Dex from GotVapes at all. If anything it seems like a big step down from the v4 sapphire as it doesn't hold quite as much (though Gotvapes couldn't be bothered to update the product page to reflect this), tastes awful, and replaced a beloved item then had no business being retired. Nicer mouthpiece so that's something, though, I guess?

The most frustrating part is that this v5 cart was supposedly "Designed for thicker oils"! If this thing couldn't really wick pure gold that well I can't even imagine the horrid taste a user would receive when trying to vape thicker stuff. It's so annoying to have to "test" this stuff with pricey concentrates too, that now I have to "suffer" through until the cart is empty. Happy to be medicated but the taste is really terrible. Like tire fire terrible.

Very disappointed in GotVapes for both getting rid of the old v4 and half assedly reintroducing this POS as some sort of "upgrade". Now I will have to look for the older style BUD510 carts on ebay and just hope that whomever I buy from has done the type of testing that Gotvapes does (well, previously did) to ensure I dont get a misfire on a pricey ampule of Pure Gold.

There's an old saying, if it ain't broke don't fix it. Wise words.
I'm sorry, but I just cannot believe so many people are still messing around with these little plastic carts, the sapphires or kisses or whatever. Maybe it's just a location/availability thing... The kanger evod2 glass tank works excellently for oils, it's Pyrex and metal and the wicks and coils are replaceable. I've used the little plastic things y'all are referring to, o-pens, most of the aspire and kanger tanks and different mods, different pre-loaded carts from dispensaries, the evod tank works best and actually looks normal on a battery! I know function is important, I just find it hard to believe no one has lost their mind over the way those sapphire carts look on a battery. I mean, come on! And they're almost entirely plastic...I'm a little surprised, I guess, that such an aesthetically displeasing design is still being tolerated. I know they work, but so do 4 or 5 other carts that look entirely normal on a battery.

Another aside from the evod is the ipuff. It's an elliptical battery, and the 3-in1 do flower oil and wax, but it has a refillable cart that is made specifically for oil, and it works very very well. I bought the battery for $15 and a cart loaded with a gram of 78+%thc oil for $40, lasts me about a week, I pick up oil and refill the cart. The oil is thick but the cart does a good job of warming it up, it's made specifically for oil, work great. On ebay I found a 4-in1 by Dry Vapes for about $20.

For wax and shatter, please stop liquefying them or tearing your pro tanks apart to expose the coils. The atomizer to buy is the seego vhit type b atomizer, get the one with DUAL COILS. It comes with a metal dual coil cup that has a cap, the cap catches all splatter and returns to the coils. You can get these on eBay for about 15 bucks. You could also buy what is called an "un breakable tube" on eBay, to replace the glass piece, and you would be set. I've had one working for about 2 years now, I just order replacement cups every once in a while. Looks like a normal ecig, I use it everywhere without attention. The seego vhit "rise" atomizer is a nice one too, but I prefer the vhit type b personally. They work fine with oil too, you just have to load it up a couple hits at a time.

Look, I know those sapphire carts have lots of supporters...I guess because they usually work. Just wanted to offer an alternative, something that always works and actually looks good, too. And no reason to liquidize your concentrates to put in tank and use with a pen. I guess that's why people are taking perfectly good concentrates and liquefying them, I have done it...but in my case it was for vacation and convenience...but generally, I use my tiny vaporizer atty on my ecig battery, it works great for everything. From someone who has used the sapphire carts too, just sayin, there ARE other! better options.
 
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I'm sorry, but I just cannot believe so many people are still messing around with these little plastic carts, the sapphires or kisses or whatever. Maybe it's just a location/availability thing... The kanger evod2 glass tank works excellently for oils, it's Pyrex and metal and the wicks and coils are replaceable. I've used the little plastic things y'all are referring to, o-pens, most of the aspire and kanger tanks and different mods, different pre-loaded carts from dispensaries, the evod tank works best and actually looks normal on a battery! I know function is important, I just find it hard to believe no one has lost their mind over the way those sapphire carts look on a battery. I mean, come on! And they're almost entirely plastic...I'm a little surprised, I guess, that such an aesthetically displeasing design is still being tolerated. I know they work, but so do 4 or 5 other carts that look entirely normal on a battery.

Another aside from the evod is the ipuff. It's an elliptical battery, and the 3-in1 do flower oil and wax, but it has a refillable cart that is made specifically for oil, and it works very very well. I bought the battery for $15 and a cart loaded with a gram of 78+%thc oil for $40, lasts me about a week, I pick up oil and refill the cart. The oil is thick but the cart does a good job of warming it up, it's made specifically for oil, work great. On ebay I found a 4-in1 by Dry Vapes for about $20.

For wax and shatter, please stop liquefying them or tearing your pro tanks apart to expose the coils. The atomizer to buy is the seego vhit type b atomizer, get the one with DUAL COILS. It comes with a metal dual coil cup that has a cap, the cap catches all splatter and returns to the coils. You can get these on eBay for about 15 bucks. You could also buy what is called an "un breakable tube" on eBay, to replace the glass piece, and you would be set. I've had one working for about 2 years now, I just order replacement cups every once in a while. Looks like a normal ecig, I use it everywhere without attention. The seego vhit "rise" atomizer is a nice one too, but I prefer the vhit type b personally. They work fine with oil too, you just have to load it up a couple hits at a time.

Look, I know those sapphire carts have lots of supporters...I guess because they usually work. Just wanted to offer an alternative, something that always works and actually looks good, too. And no reason to liquidize your concentrates to put in tank and use with a pen. I guess that's why people are taking perfectly good concentrates and liquefying them, I have done it...but in my case it was for vacation and convenience...but generally, I use my tiny vaporizer atty on my ecig battery, it works great for everything. From someone who has used the sapphire carts too, just sayin, there ARE other! better options.


This argument is akin to saying " why do people buy cars, I like trucks" imo. LayGs like Vhit and Rise do not fill the same role as tanks. You said yourself you buy preloaded and use it for a week, that's why we want a tank not a seego. Personally, I find disposable "sapphire" types to be about the same economically as replacing coils in a kanger so I don't see the logic in a larger, heavier tank with more parts to break/fail.
I use the Seego type B too, it's ok for a few stealthy semi-combustion hits, but anything more than 2 hits in a bowl is so rank :( What sets the Evod apart from every other bottom coil wicked atty?
 
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I'm sorry, but I just cannot believe so many people are still messing around with these little plastic carts, the sapphires or kisses or whatever. Maybe it's just a location/availability thing... The kanger evod2 glass tank works excellently for oils, it's Pyrex and metal and the wicks and coils are replaceable. I've used the little plastic things y'all are referring to, o-pens, most of the aspire and kanger tanks and different mods, different pre-loaded carts from dispensaries, the evod tank works best and actually looks normal on a battery! I know function is important, I just find it hard to believe no one has lost their mind over the way those sapphire carts look on a battery. I mean, come on! And they're almost entirely plastic...I'm a little surprised, I guess, that such an aesthetically displeasing design is still being tolerated. I know they work, but so do 4 or 5 other carts that look entirely normal on a battery.

Another aside from the evod is the ipuff. It's an elliptical battery, and the 3-in1 do flower oil and wax, but it has a refillable cart that is made specifically for oil, and it works very very well. I bought the battery for $15 and a cart loaded with a gram of 78+%thc oil for $40, lasts me about a week, I pick up oil and refill the cart. The oil is thick but the cart does a good job of warming it up, it's made specifically for oil, work great. On ebay I found a 4-in1 by Dry Vapes for about $20.

For wax and shatter, please stop liquefying them or tearing your pro tanks apart to expose the coils. The atomizer to buy is the seego vhit type b atomizer, get the one with DUAL COILS. It comes with a metal dual coil cup that has a cap, the cap catches all splatter and returns to the coils. You can get these on eBay for about 15 bucks. You could also buy what is called an "un breakable tube" on eBay, to replace the glass piece, and you would be set. I've had one working for about 2 years now, I just order replacement cups every once in a while. Looks like a normal ecig, I use it everywhere without attention. The seego vhit "rise" atomizer is a nice one too, but I prefer the vhit type b personally. They work fine with oil too, you just have to load it up a couple hits at a time.

Look, I know those sapphire carts have lots of supporters...I guess because they usually work. Just wanted to offer an alternative, something that always works and actually looks good, too. And no reason to liquidize your concentrates to put in tank and use with a pen. I guess that's why people are taking perfectly good concentrates and liquefying them, I have done it...but in my case it was for vacation and convenience...but generally, I use my tiny vaporizer atty on my ecig battery, it works great for everything. From someone who has used the sapphire carts too, just sayin, there ARE other! better options.


I understand there are better rebuildable, more complicated things out there but I could honestly give a shit about visual aesthetics when it comes to the pen I am using to get medicated. I just want it to WORK! Also I have no desire to get my engineers degree in rebuilding atomizer and replacing coils, I'd rather just buy a new cart! EASE OF USE if what makes the (old) sapphires so great. You fill them, you vape them, when they are empty, you throw them out and fill a new one, since they were like 3 dollars a pop. The old ones worked that way anyway. These new version sapphires, if you don't really baby them, SUCK. I JUST WANT THE OLD SAPPHIRES BACK IS THAT TOO MUCH TO ASK!

I kid, I do appreciate you putting all that down for us, but it's just not quite what I'm looking for. Also keep in mind im on east coast so experimentation and shit get expensive very quickly when it comes to concentrates (don't even ask what the prices for shit in NYC are, you don't even want to know). After much experimentation I finally found those sapphire carts thanks to some of the good people here. I tried one thinking it wasn't much of a risk since they literally had like 100% positive reviews, and VOILA! I found my cart. Then Gotvapes stopped stocking them for like 5 months and replaced the item with a far inferior product, so here I am searching again. It is infuriating.
 

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Thanks GLD! Do you happen to know if he is using pure gold successfully in them? It's all I have access to out here in NYC... Also it's my concentrate of choice. Any leakage, burning taste, or waste issues? I will let you know if I find any success as well brother!
 
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