Wow, i'm glad my post bumped up this thread - This is more my passion than vaping! (Bodybuilding, health, fitness, diet, etc). I know it's the Athlete Vaporist thread, and i'm still one, but i've been taking a nice break lately and i'm REALLY starting to rediscover this passion. I haven't workout out in a medicated state for a while, and my tolerance was so sky high before that I really didn't see much effect to doing it. I'm almost afraid to go back to it, and especially in the gym, because i'm quite sure my eyes would go super red and i've experienced negative effects to lifting while medicated in the past, in certain ways anyway - just like a physical lack of coordination....hamster wheel definitely a no-no for me.
@Deja Vu - couldn't agree with you more....i've said it before, but the focus and ability to go through the pain train and especially those last few reps and mind/body connection is awesome. This is truely the first year (i'm 39, started lifting semi-seriously at around 21-22) that i'm all about body weight exercises, since it's so much easier when you drop alot of body fat. I've been as heavy as 220 (mostly due to body fat), and as skinny as 165lbs in high school at a height of 6'2 1/2. I'm presently 175lbs at about 7-8% BF, and this is just recent due to a 5-7lbs drop in water due to my tolerance break which begin 3 weeks ago. Vaping makes me retain water big time! I typically hovered around 180-185 while binging on the vape, and now i'm finding 175-180 is where I like to be. I have found diet to be the biggest factor in staying lean and cut, and occasionally encorporating intermittent fasting, in the first part of the day. It's going to be a trip when I start vaping a bit again and hit the gym! But I don't want to gain a bunch of water weight again so have to keep an eye on the dose/frequency. Nothing like vaping and zoning out in nature on a hike too!
@BuzzDanklin - I know exactly what you mean. Again, individual tolerance plays a huge roll here, as do the snow conditions! lol When I lived at Big White Ski Resort for a season, those powder days you could do anything you wanted essentially and not get hurt, as long as you stayed away from the tree line. Man those were the days!
@vapien - hahaha, yep, you're right...best to take a portable and do a small sesh in the parking lot, i've missed so many workouts for that very reason! I also have a sweet ass home setup of a rack, bench, olympic bar/weights and dumbells so prefer to do those medicated sessions in the comfort of my own home, but it's happened more than once that I never got to the workout either due to getting over medicated, or lazy, or both!
Wow, never heard of Zyzz! Which blows me away....i'm on a huge bodybuilding binge now, and downloaded a shit tonne of movies/docu's... did he compete at all? I can assure you that his physique is completely attainable naturally though, he's really not that huge, and yeah arnold was on alot of steroids. I guess i'll have to start posting some selfies! Getting shredded as fuck is all about diet and being fat adapted. I'm LOVING Kiefer's Carb Backloading program and have been maintaining single digit body fat levels without any real effort. I love telling people that I don't do ANY direct ab work when they ask how I have visible abs, and that they are created in the kitchen. So I assume that Zyzz had a heart attack in the Sauna? I'll havta look that up.
If anyone is interested in Kiefer's Carb Nite or Carb Backloading programs, check out their respective websites, but for some reason the pdf's can be found for free by a quick google search. Body I/O is now officially my favourite podcast, this physicist knows his shit!!
I'm stoked to be around like minded people in this thread....after some head scratching posts i've been reading in some other threads I was almost ready to check out of this forum in general, save for a few vape specific threads.
Stay strong and lift on!
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Wow, just read up on Zyzz on Wiki, and I take back what I first said on attaining that body naturally. He didn't look that huge to me in those pics, but at 6'2, 1/2" and 220lbs he's obviously bigger than I perceived, and although it stated he had a congenital heart defect, surely the roids had something to do with it. Sad, at such a young age!!! I don't judge because at his age I started to experiment with several anabolics, same thing - I was a skinny shit and a virgin and wanted to do anything to get big and get girls. Fortunately I did very short cycles and only a very few. Fuck my life that was a long time ago, but i'm hoping that some of the younger members reading here will take serious note. I would never fuck with my body chemistry ever again like that, but can see why it's so damn addicting. Sadly I can point out the juicers in my gym, and many are my age or even older, and I suppose just don't give a fuck about their health. I used to fake n' bake like crazy too, but would never consider that again either. I wish I had the knowledge I have now when I was 20! But appreciate what I know now, and what i've been through in the past to get here.
Gonna start watching some of Zyzz's youtube videos and look up his book. Trippy that his dad worked in Cardiology. Sounds like Zyzz lived for the day and had quite a good life, albeit short, at least he got to mack chicks especially by being a stripper! lol RIP brother, you are still being looked up to.
