Athlete Vaporists?

[His_Highness]

@lwien R-SAS..LOL!!!!! Would make a great bookend to my recent V-ASS (Vaporizor accessory selection syndrome)

Sometimes I need something new to jack up my running from a mental standpoint. New music for the MP3 or........new shoes. What version of the Enigmas would you suggest? I don't always buy the new version of a shoe. For example - The Adrenalines just came out with the 15s but I'll buy a few pairs of the 14's instead. I completely passed on the 12's a few years back because I didn't like the change that year. Saves a couple bucks and still allows me to sample.

I also agree on the 'wear-em-in' before running them hard but I do some of that before even running them. I'll wear them for just walking around a week or more before running them so they form/cup my feet better before pounding the pavement with them.

 

[MinnBobber]

Sock wise, I'm wearing Feetures and they last forever. Have had the same socks for over 8 years and they are as good as new. Comes with a lifetime warranty too. Super comfortable and they stay dry. Have a few Balega's too which are a bit softer but I don't think they'll wear as well.

thanks, I need to check out Feetures as I blow thru socks like they're made of paper.
Even if they are expensive, the lifetime warranty would be great!!

 

[lwien]

What version of the Enigmas would you suggest? I don't always buy the new version of a shoe.

Yeah, I never get the most recent ones either mainly because of cost. The Enigma's are a $140 dollar shoe but if I wait till the new models are released, I can get the previous model for around 60 bucks.

The new Enigma 5's are coming out in July so I'd shop around for the Enigma 3 and 4's. They only changed the uppers a bit on the 4's (less overlays and a little lower profile) as compared to the 3's. Currently I'm in the 3's and like them a lot. I also ran in the 2's. Also a good shoe but a bit stiffer and a bit more durable.

Even if they are expensive, the lifetime warranty would be great!!

Yeah, but they're so damn durable, I've never had to use the warranty, but if you go through socks like crazy, it's good to have.

 

[Chill Dude]

@lwien R-SAS..LOL!!!!! Would make a great bookend to my recent V-ASS (Vaporizor accessory selection syndrome)

I for sure have both of those ailments...

As far as shoes are concerned I rotate between three pairs depending on the type of run I'm doing. For speed work like intervals, tempo runs and 5k and 10k races I go with light shoe with minimal cushioning the saucony Kinvara 7 at 7.3 oz. For mid distance runs of 6 to 10 miles or a half marathon race I go with the Saucony Ride 7 at 9.2 oz.( my favorite shoe). For long distance runs of say 10 plus miles or a Marathon race I go with the Brooks Glycerine 12 at 10.6 oz. all of my shoes are in the neutral category and due to my extremely high arches I go to a running specialty store for custom orthotics.

If I didn't compete and was running just for general fitness, I would defiantly go with a heavier shoe with an abundance of cushioning. However, for raceing you need a lighter more responsive shoe to hit your best times...

I use a Garmin 210 GPS watch which I highly recommend.

My best advice is to forget about color/looks, brand name or what your friends wear! Go to a specialty running store and find a shoe that fits your foot the best and is the right match for your fitness level, age and weight. The more you weigh the more cushioning you need to prevent injury. I race and weigh 158 pounds so I can get away with running with minimals for short to moderate distances. However, if I weighed 200 pounds and wore those I would be much more likely to get injured. Additionally, when it comes to running shoes size does matter. I wear 10.5 in my street shoes, but all my running shoes are 12's. I like a big roomy toe box so as to minimize black toe nails,bruising and bleeding. As @Your Highness mentioned, I also use a glide stick to lubricate my toes and prevent excessive rubbing.

 

[lwien]

Gotta add one more thing. This whole idea that one should get a new pair of running shoes at 500 miles is total bullshit. It's perpetuated by the shoe industry to get you to buy shoes more often.

The fact is, is that there are way too many variables to make a suggestion like that. Variables like, running surface, your gait, your weight, how your feet strike the ground, type of shoe (racing flat or heavy motion control shoe), etc etc....

There are some that can only get a few hundred miles from a pair of shoes yet others can get close to a thousand, and............everywhere in between.

 

[His_Highness]

@lwien - I also don't adhere to the 500 mile guideline. I just keep an eye on the shoe for wear and tear. I usually purchase the new shoe a few weeks before needing them once I see the bottom start to wear in the usual places.

 

[Chill Dude]

For me I replace my shoes fairly frequently 300 to 500 miles. I want to error on the side of caution,because with a worn out shoe your risk of injury goes way up. However, I understand that budget conscious runners may want to run them into the ground. I just feel comfortable replacing shoes frequently and donate my old shoes to a charity in Mexico sponsored by my running store..

 

[lwien]

For me, I go by feel. It's pretty easy for me to feel when the shoe begins to exhibit that "dead" feeling when the midsole gets a bit too compressed.

 

[Euphoria]

I think this article will be of interest to anyone who follows this thread!

https://www.onnit.com/academy/the-e...se-is-marijuana-a-performance-enhancing-drug/

I tend to vape for lighter & longer duration activity like a cycle to keep things interesting. I can vape before a heavy strength workout or 85% intensity running to great success sometimes but it's beneficial effects are sporadic.
Sometimes, I'll get a rush of adrenaline which will help me lift more aggressively whilst clearly giving a better mind-muscle link. I really feel which exact muscle groups are being used.
I went on a short but intense night run when I used to live in the city pretty vaped and found that I could just hold that high pace for longer with less effort. It was comparable to tapping into the runners high a lot quicker.

However that's not always the case, more often than not my legs feel heavier like there's a larger build up of lactic acid / it's not being buffered as efficiently. The mind-muscle link still remains though. I've yet to figure out what variables are at play here, I suspect it's quite complicated because my reaction to the same weed - exercise excluded - can also be sporadic.
I'd love to figure it out as if I could consistently acquire the first case advantages through vaping it would make training a lot easier and more fun too.

 

[His_Highness]

I think this article will be of interest to anyone who follows this thread!

https://www.onnit.com/academy/the-e...se-is-marijuana-a-performance-enhancing-drug/

Great article! I now have a slightly better understanding of the how and why behind my use in terms of strength and cardio training.

Peak blood concentrations of cannabinoids occur about 3-8 minutes after you inhale, with neural effects beginning after 20 minutes and maximizing within a range of 2-4 hours: I've always felt that getting baked before my long runs (Over an hour and less then 2.5 hours these days) enhances my buzz. But I've often wondered why the major affect seems to be upwards of the 1 hour mark. I can feel the runner's high kick in around the 20 to 30 minute mark when I'm not buzzed and up till now wondered why the 30 minute mark wasn't the top of the high if the runner's high had kicked in along with the buzz. After the first 20 to 30 minutes of the run are done...I go completely introspective if I'm buzzed enough. There are times I complete several miles as if I were in a dream/fog, especially at night when the external inputs are muted. I'll come out of it after thinking of everything, except running. It's like that movie where you can hire someone to inhabit your body and do exercises for you so you aren't feeling the burn. I seek this state for every long run. As the article implies - repetitive, mind numbing exercise may benefit from MJ use.

An endurance athlete may benefit from the pain-numbing and bronchodilatory effects of marijuana to get through a tough training session, and a UFC fighter who is using THC in moderated doses could actually be able to experience a combination of pain-killing, creativity and focus. But including marijuana in high amounts – and especially meeting or exceeding doses of 100 mg THC – into a routine requiring complicated movements, an element of danger and teamwork, such as a Spartan Race or Tough Mudder, could be a recipe for disaster: I've trained in 3 styles during my 56 years and I always trained high at least half the time because I felt I needed the mind/body connection to tie to the environment for proper execution. In other words...I thought I'd need to be in the same frame of mind I'd need to protect myself in. Got caught once by a very old, traditional instructor who asked me to stop coming to the training that way (he could smell it on me and my breath). I will admit that the complex techniques/forms/katas seemed harder to learn buzzed but the strictly repetitive techniques (100 kicks each side kind of thing) felt easier and flowed better because the mind/body/exertion felt more relaxed....at least that's how it felt.

For example, biohacking bodybuilders (or others desiring a post-workout anabolic state) can increase post-workout protein intake for mass and muscle building by consuming THC (in a higher-than-usual dose) before big workouts, while those pursuing fat loss and appetite control may actually suppress nighttime cravings by using smaller doses of THC on a more frequent basis. Not so sure about this one though...I use before and after strength training and have since I was 16 but I still don't look like a bulky body builder....maybe I gotta use more

 

[Chill Dude]

Running the San Diego Rock N Roll Half Marathon tomorrow.. Already set my alarm for 3:30 yikes!! I Always get a little amped up before a race I'll probably Vape a couple bowls of strong indica around 9:00 and try to get to sleep by 10:00... I'd like to PR tomorrow. Looking to break 1:33!! We will see..

Vape on athletes!!

 

[GetLeft]

I ride a mt bike when the weather's nice and I'm behaving well. The relatively infrequent confluence of those two things keeps me rather less fit than I should be. It's taken me a while this season to get my lazy butt started. No worries. I blame that on my newly discovered vaping pleasure : ) But really, I blame it mostly on age and laziness. Either way, man I need me some serious exercise so a bike riding I will be going.

Took my second ride of the season today (all scoffing acknowledged and tolerated) and while riding I thought about the impact of potentially rwh (riding while high). My lungs have felt no adverse effects from vaping, while combusting on the one hitter was a definite detriment. So I wondered about how I might handle a ride on a vape buzz. Lung wise, probably ok. But I know I won't risk it. There's too much quick reflex movement involved in handling the silly bike. On a road bike ride (which I moved away from) I can see how being buzzed (via vaping with little to no respiratory compromises) would help with the whole mind over matter issue. But I don't ride a mt bike for endurance but rather because of the pretty constant focus and attentiveness it requires of me. If I slow down a little too much at the wrong time I go kaboom. If I hit the front wheel on the wrong side of a root while leaning the opposite way? Kaboom, crack, etc. … No time to worry about paying the bills or that jerk at work under those conditions . It's exercise, yes (not endurance the way I do it), but it's also a real freeing break from the mundane. And yes, without the vape.

 

[Bravesst]

Avid exerciser, retired NYC firefighter, current trainer. Honestly, I didn't switch to vaping to relieve lung symptoms. Ironically, I never had lung issues (survived 911), as many of my peers have. I currently train with kettlebells, performing timed sets of up to 10 to 20 minutes, a true cardio-respiratory challenge. I do like the cleanliness of vaping, and can only imagine it will improve my overall health. I know it sure get's me high as hell.... . I've smoked through my entire journey as a firefighter, trainer, lifter, and it never seemed to slow me down (albeit daily use). Smoking, along with exercise also curbed anxiety, something vaping (and exercise) still does today.

 

[GetLeft]

Thanks for the tip. Just checked out a kettlebell video. I think I'll look into them. I need to get lots fitter than I am and don't have the motivation for free weights. And I have an elbow with tendinitis that has been limiting me with some exercises (pull ups and curls cause pain).

 

[MinnBobber]

Thanks for the tip. Just checked out a kettlebell video. I think I'll look into them.....

Just be very careful with kettlebells as proper technique is CRITICAL. Most recommend a personal trainer session(s) for proper use before doing on your own.

I bought a couple and then consulted my physical therapist and chiropractor. With a lower back protruding disc issue and shoulder tendon issue, they both said it would NOT be a good routine for me.

I currently get about 4 hours exercise each day and am in very good condition BUT kettlebell doesn't match up to my needs. For some it is excellent idea

 

[Bravesst]

I'm actually a fitness author (The Firefighter's Workout Book Harper Collins 2000), master kb instructor (give kb certification classes). My coach, a Russian champion, is about pure technique, and so am I.
http://kbgym.com
Thank You...

 

[Vapinghole]

Welcome, @Bravesst!

A retired NYC firefighter? Thank you so much for your service. And thank you for contributing to the thread. I'm honored to have you here.

My racing season so far has been a good one and I'm holding up well despite some challenging courses. Keeping my distance to half marathon and less this year and sticking to the trails--mostly. Did a crazy-ass mountain 10k run yesterday. Not really a trail run as the course didn't include trails. It's a run up and down hills through the bush and rocks and rivers other shit like that on the mountain. Not a tough mudder or any other engineered course. A true adventure routed through the mountain's natural obstacles and at an average of 5,000 ft elevation. 'Twas a humdinger.

 

[Bravesst]

Nice work VH. Elevation is tough!!!
I've done a couple of warrior dashes and the like (a bit too manufactured for me, but admire anyone who can complete these), but right now I'm sticking to my kettlebell sport workouts. Knees don't take too well to running, but my timed sets (up to 20 minutes without the bell hitting the floor), are just what the doctor ordered for me right now.

 

[Battleweis]

I'm a boxer. After having stopped working out for about 9 months (during which I started combusting 2-3 joints a week) I recently started working out again 3 months ago. I have to say.. my endurance is better now than it had been. But I don't automatically attribute this to weed, I also changed my diet (now a pescetarian and avoid dairy). One thing is for sure, it hasn't had a negative impact on my workouts. I'm even expecting to see an increase in performance now that I just got my first vaporizer (Mighty) and completely plan to stop combusting. After the boxing workouts I used to be dead tired and happy to go home. But now I usually do an extra 30 minutes of bag training and jumping rope before I call it a night.

 

[phooka]

I have been using cannabis daily for 10 years now. My lung capacity is phenomenal. I can run faster than most of my friends can bike. I find that the higher I am the better my endurance, I think it helps with that mind over matter factor when exercising.. which could be dangerous. You need to know your limits. I also had heart surgery about 7 years ago to correct my SVT (supra ventricular tachycardia) and still have PVC's (premature ventricular contractions), but it's only when I'm idle.
As soon as I start running my heart doesn't miss a beat and is stronger than a horse

 

[Bravesst]

I have been using cannabis daily for 10 years now. My lung capacity is phenomenal. I can run faster than most of my friends can bike. I find that the higher I am the better my endurance, I think it helps with that mind over matter factor when exercising.. which could be dangerous. You need to know your limits. I also had heart surgery about 7 years ago to correct my SVT (supra ventricular tachycardia) and still have PVC's (premature ventricular contractions), but it's only when I'm idle.
As soon as I start running my heart doesn't miss a beat and is stronger than a horse

PVC - yeah, they suck. For me it's only when I'm idle, perfectly healthy. It's more about anxiety and adrenalin that somehow only rears its ugly head (as my doc put it) in "quiet time". Still get it on occasion, vaping at high temps works great for me for that reason.

 

[phooka]

PVC - yeah, they suck. For me it's only when I'm idle, perfectly healthy. It's more about anxiety and adrenalin that somehow only rears its ugly head (as my doc put it) in "quiet time". Still get it on occasion, vaping at high temps works great for me for that reason.

YUP anxiety and adrenaline that's why I'm prescribed Xanax and propranolol. Xanax helps with the psychological anxiety and propranolol helps with the physical side effects of it and inhibits adrenaline metabolization
That's interesting about vaping on high I'm going to fire up the PAX on high tonight

 

[Vapinghole]

High everyone!

Hope you're all having a great summer and staying fit.

Been training for a hilly half marathon that takes place tomorrow. It's about an hour away, giving me the perfect vaping opportunity prior to the race.

Anyone else have races coming up? Running or otherwise? Do you vape beforehand as well?

Cheers!

 

[His_Highness]

High everyone!

Hope you're all having a great summer and staying fit.

Been training for a hilly half marathon that takes place tomorrow. It's about an hour away, giving me the perfect vaping opportunity prior to the race.

Anyone else have races coming up? Running or otherwise? Do you vape beforehand as well?

Cheers!

Nope - no races on the schedule. I have been doing 'heat based' conditioning runs on the weekend which I have been told is f'n crazy if not downright stupid..... but I've done this every year since moving to Florida. It works like this...As soon as the heat climbs into the 90's as a norm I do hour length runs in the sun, heat and humidity. I freeze a hand held water bottle and run a course that takes me past my development every 20 minutes in case I want/need to cut it short. During the week days I run at night after work.

It's an additional way to test myself and improve beyond what is understood to be typical. Conditioning for heat stress like this is an example. Running this way is not at all about the cardio because I run garbage miles when running for heat conditioning. Some folks think I've lost my mind running in the heat this way but when it comes to working or playing in the Florida sun I have trained for it and I'm careful to monitor myself during those runs. If I get a cold flash, or start to lose my cognitive thought during a heat conditioning run it's time to go home. I don't recommend anyone do this but if you do start really slowly.

Anyone else exercise/train for conditioning versus the more typical running for cardio type of exercise?

 

[thevapedcrusader]

High everybody!? 50k xc Mtb marathon coming up on Sunday...I'll vape on the way there, then a good warm up and one quick blast on the solo just before we roll out ! Yeeeeefuckinghaaaaa!
Good luck to you all in your blazed sporting endeavors, keep the rubber side down and the smiling side up. Happy trails