Asperger's Syndrome & MMJ

[Tranquility]

I have OCD. If, like me before diagnosis, you use the phrase as short hand for actually meaning being ANAL or SPECIFIC about how you like things FUCKING STOP IT!

On the issue, let me add, it is the same with other mental illness claims as well. The wife I referred to earlier was reading one of the political threads some time ago and got lit up when the claims of "phobe" came out. She got angry that some would use a term like homophobe to express some disagreement on an issue that revolved around the first part of the compound word. "Phobias" she said, "are a serious mental illness of people with profound problems." While she understood the meaning of how the term was used, the disparity between the reality of a phobia and what is intended by calling someone phobic was so large that she got angry at the use. Gorgeously so.

 

[HellsWindStaff]

Since I got that cube, I've had to cut my nails.

Odd practice this nail cutting ritual!

Legit couldn't tell you last time I cut mine picking them, cigs (I know ugh), and fiddling with my lower lip are my biggest idle ticks.

I had a good childhood regarding my aspergers, really am quite mild and took me 22 years to get diagnosed but in hindsight made a lot of sense. I was a real shit to my family as a teenager though (aren't we all )

I was quiet, but even now it's funny I'm same way, I am bad at starting conversation. I am a great listener and IMO I feel that endeared me to lot of friends and stuff. Give me a topic you yourself are interested in, and I can talk for days. Very bad at figuring that topic my own lol, I hate small talk so my relationships with people are all very genuine. I saw someone say extroverted introvert and this is me. I like being with people I like but I still very much need my alone time to recharge.

I am also/was also very literal. Things are very black and white for me and while I can sympathize, I don't know if I truly can empathize (hard for me). Like I understand how they are feeling...but I myself am pretty emotionally stoic it takes a lot to piss me off and it also takes a lot to make me sad or happy or love etc. I don't view people who express their emotions as weak but I myself have a hard time dealing with emotionally driven people if that makes sense because their actions are driven by emotion and that is something I have a hard time wrapping my head around. My dad always would tell me to try and fuel anger into something constructive. (prove to whoever you are better than them) but I just don't get angry to that point i lack a competitive edge in a sense I guess. Been working on it though

Rambling a bit, had more to write but brains a bit foggy can't quite remember haha cheers!

 

[herbivore21]

To anyone who might read this...

I have OCD. If, like me before diagnosis, you use the phrase as short hand for actually meaning being ANAL or SPECIFIC about how you like things FUCKING STOP IT!

It doesnt particularly make me angry but that definition is in no way what OCD is and is disappointing every time I see it.

Whenever I tell ppl I have OCD they assume being anal, wanting everything in alphabetical order is an obvious part of it when its actually got fuck all to do with it.

So, its not a big deal really, but just remember, if you want to refer to OCD as being anal/a perfectionist/etc its complete and utter ignorance and perpetuating a falsehood. Next time you think about OCD, remember me telling you mine is more like my brain SHOUTING at me constantly, very often to kill myself. Thats not quite the same as you wanting your Abba cd's all next to each other on a shelf

/rant

EDIT: Hopefully me ranting about it in here will stop me from pounding down on someone inappropriately in a thread next time I see yet another post from someone claiming its OCD that makes them want to get rid of the combustion smell from a vape.

Yes! We can also look over at that addiction thread for what happens when people start to use medical language that is intended to describe clinically significant conditions to describe much milder, if not entirely unrelated every-day situations. This kind of equivocation then leads to things like people responding to people with depressive/anxiety/obsessive disorders by saying 'oh we all get depressed/anxious/obsessive sometimes'. This completely ignores the centrality of the severity of the depression/anxiety/obsessive symptoms in the individual.

When someone tells you that they have an anxiety disorder etc, they by definition experience these symptoms in a way that is clinically significant (READ: WARRANTS MEDICAL ATTENTION!).

 

[grokit]

It's not that uncommon for professional jargon terms to have their meaning changed when they enter the common lexicon, and it's not always equivocation; many times it's just the natural evolution, or the abuse, of language depending upon one's perception. As mentioned, diagnostic terms like phobia and ocd currently have multiple meanings, depending mostly upon whether they are used within a professional context.

It's not necessarily a dumbing down of the masses or even de-evolution, more of a natural dilution

 

[MyCollie]

I'd love to be neurotypical. I've developed a lot of coping strategies over the years though. Still, I can't make out faces and body language very well...not sure I will be able to. Another member here responded to one of my posts (and another person's - multi quote) on a now closed thread with just an animated gif of someone making a face of some sort and I have no clue what it meant. I guessed "exasperated" but I'm still not sure.

Edit: It was an animated gif of Ron Swanson from Parks and Recreation. There are a lot of them but in this one I think his face was saying "ok, you got me," or "I'm at my wits end with all of this stuff". Or something else.

 

[DDave]

I am bad at starting conversation.

For me, I can never end one once it's started. Always feeling there's something more to be said by either myself or the other participant. I wonder how often the other party has kept the conversation alive longer than needed because of this...

Give me a topic you yourself are interested in, and I can talk for days.

Oh man! Give me a topic I'm interested in and you'll be an expert in it when I'm done talking for days.

Still, I can't make out faces and body language very well...not sure I will be able to.

Don't give up. We are awesome at pattern recognition and noticing subtle things others do not. Use these two things, with a mix of your other qualities, to help guide you to face and body language.

Took me a couple decades to figure out my wife had a set of feelings all her own... That she saw things differently than I did... and of how much she put up with my unintentional crap. That opened the door for me to seeing that others didn't see things the exact same way I did... what a breakthrough that was... explained a lot!

 

[GetLeft]

multiple meanings, depending mostly upon ...

Right on. Beware signs. Hard to nail down what they mean precisely.

That being said, I have heard over the past six months, perhaps, the term 'ocd' used colloquially as kind of a cute positive characteristic for people who are 'driven.' Or at least that's how I've assumed it's been used. Maybe I'm wrong though. Maybe there are enough of us that have a legitimate knowledge of these conditions (via personal experience) that terms once considered to be under the jurisdiction of a minority are now owned by a plurality...

 

[grokit]

In the professional context, a given term like this might also have its diagnostic criteria changed; it follows that those in the field would know of the change, but the waters muddy even further for everyone else.

 

[Krazy]

OldNewbie, I think that autism speaks is actually a support org for the families, specifically parents, of the extremely autistic. Most of the aspies I know take exception to their stance on finding a genetic "cure" and preventing the birth of any and all future autistics.

In the professional context, a given term like this might also have its diagnostic criteria changed; it follows that those in the field would know of the change, but the waters muddy even further for everyone else.

That.

 

[Tranquility]

OldNewbie, I think that autism speaks is actually a support org for the families, specifically parents, of the extremely autistic. Most of the aspies I know take exception to their stance on finding a genetic "cure" and preventing the birth of any and all future autistics.
That.

I understand. I used the example I did to demonstrate the concept.

I think those who feel that way are wrong. I understand the spectrum only slightly. But, it is a wide spectrum. I am uncertain as to if "aspies" (Whom I assume we have a mental image of that is way, way, way to one side of the scale.) get to call those who give their lives trying to help those on the other end of the spectrum "haters" because they want to stop people from becoming autistic in the future.

I was not in the picture at the time, but I am told the doctors advised my wife to put my son in a medical facility where he could be controlled by staff and drugs for the rest of his life. Even though she chose a different path; a path of struggle, learning and sacrifice that led to a person on the other end.

True, that person is never going to hold a job or have an intimate relationship. No cancer is getting cured and it is unlikely he'll be President when he turns 35 in a few years. But, he is kind and earnest and wants little more than a steady supply of Gundam and Anime out of life. I got him to understand why pants are important when he leaves his room--so I got that working for me.

To choose between him and not him, the choice is clear even with the difficulties. To choose between him and "neurotypical" him is not clear only because neurotypical him implies "him" is no longer around.

Give a parent a choice of autism or no and they would have to be idiots to choose autism. I would put myself in the category of trying to find a cure. I put some time towards it and I put some wealth towards it. I understand that if the question is framed as "preventing the birth of any and all future autistics." how some might think those haters. It implies getting rid of people already here in our lives. "Preventing autism in those who are born." might be a better goal.

Autism is not a super power. Finding a cure would be a good thing.

 

[Krazy]

I am uncertain as to if "aspies" (Whom I assume we have a mental image of that is way, way, way to one side of the scale.) get to call those who give their lives trying to help those on the other end of the spectrum "haters" because they want to stop people from becoming autistic in the future.

Autism is not a super power. Finding a cure would be a good thing.

That is the problem I have with the current DSM rather than with your views on the far end of the spectrum.

If we are going to lump folks much less happy and functional than your step son into the same category as bright, high function, tech savvy aspies? I plenty of people in the second category that would pass on neuropypical if it were offered. And as long as AS claims to speak for ALL autistics in wanting to "cure" it? Aspies won't be loving them, lol.

I would like to not have some of my aspie traits while keeping some of the ones that do seem like minor superpowers to neurotypicals (I don't like that term either but some other day, lol.). But I would NOT trade being as I am for being generically "normal".

Just for the record I have dime views of NAMI as well. Not the theory but the practice I have encountered.

 

[Enchantre]

I'm pretty certain that my aspie-tendencies is due to the brain damage when I was a toddler.
The dual processing system developed, and I have a side that is VERY "aspie" - face recognition issues, unbridled emotional outbursts, cannot stop talking, no eye contact, etc., etc., etc.
The other side, which cannabis has been building bridges to, is the intellectual side, who used to just throw answers "out there" so "I" could get through school, work, etc., but who is now coming more into focus.

It's like a superpower, but it bites back a lot. Intellect me, let's call me "Sam", can bring up emotive me, let's call that "Rae", and invoke all the warm and fuzzies, and conversational gushing skills, but when "Rae" is in the driver's seat, there is no access to "Sam". Rae practically needs a keeper, to be honest. Sweet, but a little bit dumb in just a few key areas.

I love the neuro-regenerative properties of cannabis, I really do.

 

[GetLeft]

Fascinating discussion folks. Thanks for letting me soak it in.

I had reason to do a lot of research related to tourette's syndrome some years ago and it was a fascinating learning experience. Especially when I realized after several experiences with medical professionals that they did not understand the syndrome. They had a few bullet points of knowledge and connected that very limited knowledge directly to meds (none of which were created to treat TS and all of which had significant side effects but let's not let that bother our good doctors...). That kind of protocol has been generally promoted by the Tourette's Association of America. There exists significant disagreement between experienced proponents of effective non-pharmaceutical ts treatment and the TSA, which embraces the use of pharmaceuticals. I know nothing about AS but my experience with TSA (whose positions on treatment I disagree with) has led me to recognize that doing one's own research thoroughly and taking the recommendations of official organizations (which are political and most commonly are funded by folks with financial interests) with a grain of salt is the smartest way to deal.

@Enchantre I'm digging your neuro-regenerative focus on cannabis. I took a decades-long t break (from around age 28 until age 54 with only a few transgressions in between) and now after a couple years back at it as grandly as ever (btw vaping is what made it possible for me to re-enter cannabislandia) I am more myself than I have been in a long long time. For whatever reason, cannabis allows me to make connections with those things that I find most true about myself. Ok enough gobbledygook. Have a great day y'all.

 

[HellsWindStaff]

Autism is not a super power. Finding a cure would be a good thing.

Ok William Stryker (just teasing a comic reference, he's the guy who wants to cure mutants)

Always feeling there's something more to be said by either myself or the other participant. I wonder how often the other party has kept the conversation alive longer than needed because of this...

Same, I am bad at ending a conversation naturally or a topic naturally and get the same feeling during that "silence" (I don't mind awkward silence really if brief), I rely on either branching from that topic to something else or some other sort of external stimuli to turn conversation toward (sports, tv, people, music, etc).

I can ramble days and days on a topic I myself am interested in, but I also very much fall under the intense understanding of niche topics thats common among Aspergers, so I tend to not unless I know they are also interested.

I have also found human interaction/thought to be very interesting, psychology, sociology, stuff like that. I have always found it interesting in how/why a person thinks/feels/acts the way they do. Maybe because of my Aspergers and my knowledge that my beat drums differently than the majority? Idk, but was something I was thinking about recently.

Eye Contact is weird for me. Is it something neurotypicals (I also dislike this phrase) actively think about? I do look people in the eyes, but I don't really maintain eye contact throughout an entirety of a conversation? No one has ever mentioned a lack of eye contact from me so idk?

@Krazy I agree with most everything you said. I was diagnosed as having "high functioning Autism/Mild Aspergers" I am honestly not sure what or if there is even a distinction between HF autism and Aspergers. My friends acknowledge my quirks but I do think they would be shocked to know I am actually diagnosed and I do think most people would say I am NT at first impression.

I am relatively ignorant regarding the rest of the Spectrum, there is no curing me and the best cure imo is an understanding that you have it, because with that understanding you can work on making behavior changes and IMO behavior changes are more effective than medication (for most mental issues). I'm not saying that there aren't people who really need meds to function properly, but consider my brain is already different as an Aspeger and without diagnosis who really knows whats going on? Before I was diagnosed I took different SSRI's and other anti depressants as I was genuinely depressed, but it was because of a lack of understanding of myself. I know it's not a one shoe fits all but the knowledge I gained from my diagnosis led to me being able to actively try and change behaviors that were hindering me.

This really resonated with me and kind of establishes how I feel:

To choose between him and not him, the choice is clear even with the difficulties. To choose between him and "neurotypical" him is not clear only because neurotypical him implies "him" is no longer around.

Give a parent a choice of autism or no and they would have to be idiots to choose autism. I would put myself in the category of trying to find a cure.

I think a "cure" for some aspects of it, would be a good thing (I'm specifically talking about people with limited motor function) But I don't know how you could ever truly "cure" it.

If you give the parents a choice, do I want my newborn baby to be autistic or not, they would choose non autistic. If you have to choose between a child with autism, or no child at all, and you want children obviously, most would choose a child with autism. I agree the choices are clear here.

I also think it is clear in your other example as well. And maybe this is my Asperger literalness too But on one hand, you have your stepson who you love, and with that stepson comes his autism. If he was NT, would he be the same person? I reckon some aspects would be different and some would be the same. Would he be the same core of a person though? I guess I kind of equate choosing between him and not him as the same as choosing between Autistic Him and NT Him, because NT Him is not him. Does that make sense? Good post very thought provoking.

I love the neuro-regenerative properties of cannabis, I really do.

I agree, and since I've started vaporizing cannabis I've noticed a general improvement in all my relationships. Smoking would bog me down. I can vape a little and it will tune me more into Neurotypicals train of thought idk lol, it's like I'm not even intoxicated or anything just easier to converse with people and find interest in things.

 

[Tranquility]

Ok William Stryker (just teasing a comic reference, he's the guy who wants to cure mutants)

Same, I am bad at ending a conversation naturally or a topic naturally and get the same feeling during that "silence" (I don't mind awkward silence really if brief), I rely on either branching from that topic to something else or some other sort of external stimuli to turn conversation toward (sports, tv, people, music, etc).

Most are socially awkward until they practice. It is a set of skills. As importantly, it seems the brain develops in spurts and there are critical times for certain tasks to be accomplished or mastery will never occur. (See, "Why Michael Couldn't Hit, and other Tales of the Neurology of Sports".) Because one of the diagnostic criteria for the spectrum has to do with the age when signs developed, social interaction may be something never mastered. There can, however, always be a lot of improvement. (Think of dogs. If they are not socialized by being exposed to new things, animals and people between the ages of 4-12 weeks [Some stretch it to 4 months], they may never feel comfortable with strangers or strange things.)

Pro tip: practice active listening.

Rather than trying to think of the next topic or thing to say, listen. If there is a lull in the conversation and you feel the need to do something, restate what you think the other person just said and ask if that's right. I'm sure there are tons of sites out there describing the technique. Even just mechanically following the rules can be miraculous. A South Park was just on re-runs that demonstrates the concept. In Erection Day, Cartman is the Cyrano of Jimmy's attempt to relieve himself. http://southpark.wikia.com/wiki/Erection_Day/Script

Waiter: Welcome to Buca de Fagghecini for the authentico experience Italiano. My name is Roma. Can I start you out with some lotsa pasta macaroni minis?
Jimmy: Uh, I think we're gonna try your authentic pizzareli casserona poppers.
Waiter: Right away. [walks away]
Shawna: You know that girl Sally Rauman at our school? I can't stand her.
Cartman: [at a nearby booth] Jimmy! Jimmy! Jimmy, even though what she's saying now isn't interesting at all, you say, "Wow, that is very interesting. Please tell me more."
Jimmy: Wow, that is very interesting. Please tell me more.
Shawna: Really? Well, Kelligan bought the same purse and I was like, "No WAY do I want it now!" because who wants a purse that both their best friends have, right? And so-
Cartman: [Roma sets some plates of food on his table] All right, when she stops yappin' again, say "Wow, I've never thought of it that way before, but you're right."
Shawna: I guess that's why I figured, "Who needs friends like THAT?"
Jimmy: Wow, I've never thought of it that way before, but you're right.
Shawna: It's like I told Debbie: "If you're gonna go out with my friends-"
Cartman: All right Jimmy, when she finally shuts her trap again, I want you to repeat whatever she said, and then follow it with "Wow, how insightful."
Shawna: "And so if you're gonna be that way, I don't need to be your friend."
Jimmy: "If you're gonna be that way, I don't need to be your friend." Wow, how insightful.
Shawna: You know, Jimmy, you are a great listener.
Jimmy: Really?
Shawna: Yeah. I mean, no other boys really communicate like you do.
Jimmy: Oh, I'm so glad you think so, Shawna, because I really wanna stick my penis in your vagina.
Cartman: Yes, nice, Jimmy, very nice.
Shawna: [stunned] ...What??? [crosses her arms and glares] I'm not doing that!
Jimmy: But the talent show is tomorrow night!
Shawna: Creep! [throws her glass of water at him and walks out. The water shorts out his headphones, and Cartman takes his off from the feedback]
Cartman: Aaagh!​

Eye Contact is weird for me. Is it something neurotypicals (I also dislike this phrase) actively think about? I do look people in the eyes, but I don't really maintain eye contact throughout an entirety of a conversation? No one has ever mentioned a lack of eye contact from me so idk?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/eye-contact-psychology-brain_us_585aabb7e4b0eb586484c17f

If eye contact has always felt a bit overwhelming for you, it’s not all in your head.

Maintaining direct eye contact really is strenuous for the brain, according to new research, and it uses up scarce cognitive resources that we need for things like reasoning and verbal processing.​

I am relatively ignorant regarding the rest of the Spectrum, there is no curing me and the best cure imo is an understanding that you have it, because with that understanding you can work on making behavior changes and IMO behavior changes are more effective than medication (for most mental issues). I'm not saying that there aren't people who really need meds to function properly, but consider my brain is already different as an Aspeger and without diagnosis who really knows whats going on? Before I was diagnosed I took different SSRI's and other anti depressants as I was genuinely depressed, but it was because of a lack of understanding of myself. I know it's not a one shoe fits all but the knowledge I gained from my diagnosis led to me being able to actively try and change behaviors that were hindering me.

I'm ADHD but was not diagnosed until a few years ago. While I was given drugs, I have a lifetime of coping strategies I developed that had me feel they were not needed. You are the one who has the most control over your life. It's awesome you understand that.

I think a "cure" for some aspects of it, would be a good thing (I'm specifically talking about people with limited motor function) But I don't know how you could ever truly "cure" it.

I may or may not agree with the thought of Autism being cured in an adult. It seems likely there are epigenetic problems in brain development in some people that will be diagnosed on the spectrum. How can basic brain structure be "cured"? But, some studies point to a single protein that is deficient in the brain. If we can find a way to bring up the 50% nSR100 protein people up to 100%, could some be "cured"? It's like cancer. I used to think it could never be cured. Cancer is not cancer is not cancer. There are so many different types and different cells within a type, I could see no path to killing it all. Today? It seems like cures, or management, is within our grasps. Broad strategies can affect multiple problems cancer produces and paths it takes to destroy. The issues are far different. But, such thoughts give hope.

If you give the parents a choice, do I want my newborn baby to be autistic or not, they would choose non autistic. If you have to choose between a child with autism, or no child at all, and you want children obviously, most would choose a child with autism. I agree the choices are clear here.

You left out the "choice" some might make if there is ever a prenatal test developed. I suspect this is the fear groups have who don't want to talk about a cure. There is probably going to be a test available before a cure is available. (Even though the spectrum does not seem geared to a "test"-type answer at this time. It takes time to diagnose.) There will be a certain percentage who will terminate rather than parent.

I also think it is clear in your other example as well. And maybe this is my Asperger literalness too But on one hand, you have your stepson who you love, and with that stepson comes his autism. If he was NT, would he be the same person? I reckon some aspects would be different and some would be the same. Would he be the same core of a person though? I guess I kind of equate choosing between him and not him as the same as choosing between Autistic Him and NT Him, because NT Him is not him. Does that make sense? Good post very thought provoking.

I think such questions are hard and why time travel is not usually done that well in literature. Cloning questions go here too. What is a person? Does a person have a soul?

 

[DDave]

Eye Contact is weird for me. Is it something neurotypicals (I also dislike this phrase) actively think about? I do look people in the eyes, but I don't really maintain eye contact throughout an entirety of a conversation? No one has ever mentioned a lack of eye contact from me so idk?

Exactly as I would have stated it! I can make eye contact, but if I keep it, my thoughts go from the topic at hand to an internal review of either myself or the person to whom I'm speaking... then I get lost to the topic at hand and have to take a few steps back... breaking that eye contact and asking "hey, where were we?".

the best cure imo is an understanding that you have it, because with that understanding you can work on making behavior changes

Spot on! Identifying I had Aspergers was a milestone in my existance! Next came the realization that others thought and saw things differently than I did. I am driven by logic and facts. Most NTs, not so much, though I didn't realize this till I realized I was different. Before I identified that I had Aspergers, I thought I was in the "norm" and thereby why wasn't everyone's thought process similar to my own?

But I don't know how you could ever truly "cure" it.

If I was cured of Aspergers, would I still be me?
Would the things that come so easily to me, still be so easy to grasp?

 

[MyCollie]

I agree, and since I've started vaporizing cannabis I've noticed a general improvement in all my relationships. Smoking would bog me down. I can vape a little and it will tune me more into Neurotypicals train of thought idk lol, it's like I'm not even intoxicated or anything just easier to converse with people and find interest in things.

I'm not using now but was vaping following my (relatively huge) cancer related surgery and just about everyone seemed to think I was more "chilled out" than ever before - even when I wasn't high. I think I took more in stride while using a couple times a week.

 

[clukx]

To anyone who might read this...

I have OCD. If, like me before diagnosis, you use the phrase as short hand for actually meaning being ANAL or SPECIFIC about how you like things FUCKING STOP IT!

It doesnt particularly make me angry but that definition is in no way what OCD is and is disappointing every time I see it.

Whenever I tell ppl I have OCD they assume being anal, wanting everything in alphabetical order is an obvious part of it when its actually got fuck all to do with it.

So, its not a big deal really, but just remember, if you want to refer to OCD as being anal/a perfectionist/etc its complete and utter ignorance and perpetuating a falsehood. Next time you think about OCD, remember me telling you mine is more like my brain SHOUTING at me constantly, very often to kill myself. Thats not quite the same as you wanting your Abba cd's all next to each other on a shelf

/rant

EDIT: Hopefully me ranting about it in here will stop me from pounding down on someone inappropriately in a thread next time I see yet another post from someone claiming its OCD that makes them want to get rid of the combustion smell from a vape.

when i think OCD i think of someone who for example would have to touch a doorknob 12 times before opening it or having to drink a cup of tea before bed every night or something like that?

 

[EmDeemo]

when i think OCD i think of someone who for example would have to touch a doorknob 12 times before opening it or having to drink a cup of tea before bed every night or something like that?

 

[GetLeft]

Thanks man. Good introduction.

I wonder about the serotonin deal and would read into things more carefully if I needed. My knee-jerk reaction to that though is that big pharma wants a reason to sell its drugs (no not opioids this time, but rather ssri) to everyone for everything. So I end up wondering things like "to what extent does the function of serotonin in ocd brains differ from the function of serotonin in non-ocd brains? Are the cited studies reliable? Are they good science? It's not automatic that always are, ya know?"

"Could something in a person's environment be causing the neurological malfunction? Some, let's say, toxic chemical? Something in a person's diet perhaps?"

I've had to ask these questions for different reasons. It's always good to see if there's anything outside the box.

Kudos for the vid. Hope it makes curious folks look into it further.

 

[muunch]

the thing that sucks is that serotonin is not a catch-all neurotransmitter for mental disorder (nor is dopamine for that matter...) but I couldn't get MAOIs over SSRIs when I asked...

 

[jimfish4130]

Just ordered myself a black and red one, it should be here by the start of march at the latest

It came in the post today... I'm using it now but one of the 5 buttons doesn't press in and it's really irritating. Aside from that it's great, probably gonna get my little sister one soon

 

[DDave]

It came in the post today... I'm using it now but one of the 5 buttons doesn't press in and it's really irritating. Aside from that it's great, probably gonna get my little sister one soon

Make the "silent" button part of a different routine? You know how the buttons slightly click.... use the silent one in places where the click would be unacceptable.

Hold it upside down, tap on the non-clicking button, i'm betting it would fall due to gravity. They tapping it would allow it to work, while still being relatively quiet.

Also, on the 5 button side, you can hold the device and draw some pretty alien shaped figure 8's between the buttons. Complicate that move by rotating the cube after a certain number of drawn figure 8's.

Yeah, you can tell I like this little thing!!!

 

[jimfish4130]

Make the "silent" button part of a different routine? You know how the buttons slightly click.... use the silent one in places where the click would be unacceptable.

Hold it upside down, tap on the non-clicking button, i'm betting it would fall due to gravity. They tapping it would allow it to work, while still being relatively quiet.

Also, on the 5 button side, you can hold the device and draw some pretty alien shaped figure 8's between the buttons. Complicate that move by rotating the cube after a certain number of drawn figure 8's.

Yeah, you can tell I like this little thing!!!

The button isn't loose it barely presses down, I want to roll my thumb over the buttons in a certain pattern but because of that one it just doesn't feel right

 

[DDave]

The button isn't loose it barely presses down, I want to roll my thumb over the buttons in a certain pattern but because of that one it just doesn't feel right

Ah, got it! I have some set patterns I can repeat without thinking about it. Maybe your sister won't need all buttons? When you get hers, I'd discuss and see if she'd take yours?