Ascent Vaporizer - The Ordering, Shipping, & Other Nonsense thread
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nigel
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Wow.
Just wow.
Not even an FC Member -- Only just made a post today. Claims an FC advantage of early order, although the only contribution to FC is to announce they can't even wait their turn, even though it means one extra day.
I can't believe some people.
Everybody else that isn't self-centered:
Wait your turn. You WILL get one. The DV staff has their hands full. All you would be doing trying to jump line is A) making them work harder to filter out the people who feel that the universe revolves around them and "fuck everybody else!" and B) getting in the way of people whose turn it is LEGITIMATELY, possibly even causing delays.
craizen
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Could someone care to elaborate how this ordering process is going to work? If everyone who is anyone can actually order the Ascent at 5pm Pacific time today, then how is DV going to filter out the hundreds (or maybe thousands?) of orders being filled. I know DV stated above that:
But seeing as there has already been posts about this on their FB page and on this forum is there really going to be anyone who will be waiting? It seems like mostly everyone is going to pile in to try to get their order fulfilled. What's stopping them from not ordering ASAP once 5pm hits? ... I'm not trying to sound pessimistic, but I don't understand how this is going to work.
But seeing as there has already been posts about this on their FB page and on this forum is there really going to be anyone who will be waiting? It seems like mostly everyone is going to pile in to try to get their order fulfilled. What's stopping them from not ordering ASAP once 5pm hits? ... I'm not trying to sound pessimistic, but I don't understand how this is going to work.
Jab
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craizen said:
Their IT guy will most likely take the email addies used in pre-registrations and use them as a whitelist in the order form's validation phase. At least, he should. Meaning that you can't even properly submit the order form if you don't use a pre-regged email.
Honestly, I could care less what you think. I may not have a huge post count, but I am on FC daily, only recently have I decided to register after a couple years of browsing. Your post attacking me as being self centered is based on the assumption that every single person in the first 100 WILL purchase an ascent tonight. You and I both know that that will not be the case, there is even someone in this thread from the first 100 that has already said they will not be taking advantage of the DaVinci pre sale as they have ordered from another outlet. I plan to take advantage unclaimed units and get my Ascent 1 day sooner than I would have otherwise (if all goes well). I've been waiting just as painstakingly long as everyone else has. Shoot me.
OF
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That would be a neat trick indeed, wouldn't it? Ship to you before they (or anyone else but a few direct end users who pre registered) get them? Hey, it got you to buy though.....IMO not exactly an honest way to treat prospective customers, but not uncommon.
If I read it right it goes further, DV does not intend to ship to eZvape at all? Ever, as of now. EZvape will have to buy theirs from Gotvape to sell it to you......wanna guess which customers GV is going to take care of first?
Eventually the supply lines will fill and stock will happen, but right now it seems like guys getting 'great deals' from EZV and others are third tier in terms of shipping (after preorders and GV)?
Perhaps end of next month is more realistic?
OF
I hope the dot.coms like EZVAPES will get enough in their initial shipment to satisfy all of their pre orders. I'm thinking that if the croc model is favored 3-to-1 pre order, they might not have enough to satisfy just those orders, and we'll have to wait for them to get another shipment
. If all this goes smoothly, I'll be very surprised. Good luck to all.
. If all this goes smoothly, I'll be very surprised. Good luck to all.Might Gotvapes and Toronto be the distributors mentioned?
Medical Mark
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Hey OF
So you think GV and TV will receive there pre-orders before mid August ? Or there shipped to them mid August ?
Either way doesn't matter but I know got vape has taken money for there pre -orders and says there receiving them by months end and then they'll start shipping so they say, quote end quote.
So who knows right they are 1 of 2 actual distributers for DV.
Time will tell I guess.
Medical mark
So you think GV and TV will receive there pre-orders before mid August ? Or there shipped to them mid August ?
Either way doesn't matter but I know got vape has taken money for there pre -orders and says there receiving them by months end and then they'll start shipping so they say, quote end quote.
So who knows right they are 1 of 2 actual distributers for DV.
Time will tell I guess.
Medical mark
brewer
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it's just a vaporizer... And DV created the mess by offering the early registration...
They get lots marketing by doing so, which is good for them... but flaming each other is a little out of line.....
DV can sell to whomever and whenever and in whatever order they want; no enforceable contract was formed between DV and anyone who registered early to get a unit before anyone else because (among other reasons) there was no consideration paid by registrants.
Stated another way, DV made an unenforceable promise to people who registered early to promote its product; early registration is a marketing gimmick, and no one is entitled or has any right to get a unit before anyone else.
If you want to blame anyone--->blame DV. Personally, I just can't wait to see the first reviews of people who get them first!
They get lots marketing by doing so, which is good for them... but flaming each other is a little out of line.....
DV can sell to whomever and whenever and in whatever order they want; no enforceable contract was formed between DV and anyone who registered early to get a unit before anyone else because (among other reasons) there was no consideration paid by registrants.
Stated another way, DV made an unenforceable promise to people who registered early to promote its product; early registration is a marketing gimmick, and no one is entitled or has any right to get a unit before anyone else.
If you want to blame anyone--->blame DV. Personally, I just can't wait to see the first reviews of people who get them first!
I know it sucks that others may get it before some of us, but can't we all just be happy that these things are finally rolling out the door?!?! The roller coaster is finally coming down the last stretch!
Medical Mark
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It would be funny if you could see all the people a there computers in about 3 hours from now, all intensely focused on there screens and Visa cards trying to be first, there all going to have bad backs and red eye lol after 5 everyone will need to medicate just to relieve the stress and pain of trying so hard. Lol
Medical mark
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Dreamerr
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I won't have that issue Mark cause if I end up getting one it will be way in the future for a discounted price after full reviews. If I do get an email you can have my spot. I signed up before it was posted and still must be way down the list but guess what. I have a full lineup of vapes, some I love and some I don't but I am well taken care of. I don't do well with hype as I hate the let down.
OF
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I could be wrong, of course, but I still read it the same way. After preorders the next shipments go to GV and Toronto, eZvapes is not on the list at all. They will have to get them from someone who is, and none of them will get them in time to make the end of the month. For them to make good their 'ship by the end of the month' promise they'll need a time machine.....and lots of quarters. Unsure, but surely not before folks in line already? No chance by the end of the month. End of next month is not even 'in the bag' IMO.
I have no problem with discounts, in fact quite the opposite. I think you'll find I'm a strong capitalist if you look into it. We should definitely support makers and vendors that support us. Reward them as it were. But I'm also big on being honest, and I see no evidence of that here.
It's entirely possible they were mislead, but don't you think if they now know they (innocently?) passed on that bad information they should now contact folks, inform them, and offer a refund? I think we can take the maker's word at face value.
The discount part had to do with the fellows who abandoned their place in line to get the discounts they believed didn't involve delays.....that does not seem to be the case? Each guy gets to decide if the delay is worth the extra money to him, but that decision needs solid data to work well. That too is a strong point of capitalism.
OF
I just got off the phone with EZVAPES and it is apparent that they don't have a clue as to what's going on. He told me that they would be shipping at the end of the month (July). When I argued that DV isn't even going to ship to their distributors by then he just apologized for any delay and said I could cancel the order. Either DV and/or their distributors are not communicating with resellers who still don't know any better, or I/we just took the worm right off the hook. All I want is an accurate & honest answer about a due date. I'll wait...just be accurate and honest!
Jab
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OF said:
"So timing is unsure for them". Not the fact that they'll be supplied. And afaik EZVapes never "promised" anyone a shipping date. Some guys asked, they said they were looking to ship by the end of the month. Like other vendors told us as well. It wasn't even a selling point for me, by the way -- I only asked them after I ordered as an fyi.
Medical Mark
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Dreamer I feel ya, but I'm good to go and taken care of with no worries.
I did pre-order as well and don't like hype either, aft the whole cera disappointment.
I also have a line up of vapes solo, pinnacle, cera LL,EO, Pax, vapexhale, ssv, extreme q, iolite, plenty, davinci, vb 2.0, gpen, bully, and soon the ascent.
Same thing some are great some aren't but with the try, medically I'm allways looking for the next best thing.
I guess I'm addicted to feeling better for medical reasons through vaping and I can't guess ow things work so I have to purchase.
I'm isolated and don't hangout with people that I would be able to try certain vapes I'm interested I so I just dive in and hope for the best. lol
Not safe but no choice if I want to know how they work, my personal opinion and experience is more valid then those around me I guess, I trust myself and I know my needs so that's why I buy dreamer.
I know your also have a disabilty that limits things and effectiveness and efficiency are key right.
Your awesome dreamer and I totally understand
Cheers, medical mark
Just emailed EZVAPES with my displeasure at being told a few minutes ago that my order will ship at the end of this month. BS!!! Copy/pasted DaVinci's post for them so they know, and hopefully stop with their misleading sales relations, whether it be intentional or not.
Vapnoob
Nubile Vaporist
Wow people are chomping at the bit and eachother for this huh? It's sad there are douche's who have no problem jumping the line. That being said I do have a few things to say about how I think this will all go. DV's track record with things hasnt been spotless, so if this pre-sale is going to be the same it's going to be a flustercuck. I think implementing a whitelist from email addresses will be tough, since people may use different emails. And in my life when a corporation says "we will do our best" it usually means "expect to be disappointed". Ive been pre-registered since april and still have not recieved any email. I pre-ordered with one of the listed suppliers, I feel bad for those that hung on DV's word. All that being said I can't wait to get one. I wish those standing in line good luck, and a big FU to line jumpers!
Thank you for clearing that up. I just spoke to ezvape for the second time today after restating what the first rep said and being corrected by me that the units will not be arriving This month the representative changed his answer.I then informed them that I want a complete refund and will no longer be doing business with them. If you have ordered it from ezv I would like it arrive promptly on time I suggest you do the same. I have no problem if a company get screwed over or is unable to give me information you're not allowed to lie to get my business.
Vapnoob
Nubile Vaporist
I would have issued a code, told those with said code not to share. With the code DV (without changing anything on their side) could give a discount to the ascent, and make the item be ASCENT Presale at 0.00. then could invoice all those with the valid offers for the actual price of the ascent. This way every ascent would go to the the proper position in the queue. Just my 2p and probably the wrong thread too.
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