Ascent Vaporizer by DaVinci

Quetzalcoatl

DEADY GUERRERO/DIRT COBAIN/GEORGE KUSH
Thanks for the quick reply. Yes I know I can buy an adaptor for the water tool but because the Ascent has a glass path and better flavour, it's not going to need the Water tool as much as the Pinnacle does due to the plastic mouthpiece overly heating up. Its a good option to have though.
The mouthpiece issue has nothing to do with water filtration...

I think in an ideal world I would be taking a hit off the vaporizer, letting that settle in for a few minutes, then hitting again if need be until I reach satiety.

What I currently do though, for fear of wasting material, is take about one hit per minute, I'm sure sometimes more.
Yep, if you're not hitting it, it's still vaporizing. Conduction vaporization (transfer of heat via direct contact) is what Ascent uses most, as well as some IR. If you're not hitting it, the oven is still delivering heat to the flower which is still getting vaporized. If you want a "hit as you go" style vaporizer this one isn't quite it. Convection vaping (transfer of heat via air) doesn't vape while on because it has to heat the air first which then takes the heat to the flower.

If you're trying to conserve and don't want any wasted hits, you'd have to be hitting it, dumping the material out (to remove physical contact/conduction vaporization), then reloading it for the next hit. Not a very fun approach...
 

Smknbud

Well-Known Member
I'm sure many got the email with the new discount codes from DaVinci, but for those that did not, here they are:
Promo code BAV = 15% off customized Ascent
Promo code 15SKL = 15% off Limited Edition Ascent
Promo code 15ACC = 15% off accessories
Promo code PCH = Free pouch with Ascent purchase
 

nigel

And shepherds we shall be,for Accuracy & Discovery
I've bought and paid for the Ascent now, he'll post it tomorrow so should be with me day after.

I see... so we have already figured out the sex, but have you figured out the its name yet.....

:lmao::rofl:

I have no clue why as Solo has been regarded the best portable on every site.

It's a great product, with a known history. A lot of people do like it.


1) Bowl size being too big - Hopefully the glass flower method will work and solve this issue.
2) If it can get me as high or even close to what Pinnacle Pro did - I read Ascent doesn't hit as hard? How much more does it take compared to the Solo or PP to get the same result? If someone who's used both could weigh in on this?
3) The fear of getting a faulty unit, considering my unit is serial 1AA1(not that serials have a huge meaning but still worry me)

1. "Bowl size" is 'subjective', but, yeah, the flowers really work well.
2. Iit's all about approach. Their are different ways to hit this, depending on what you are trying to elicit. For example, temp points can elicit different reactions. Once you have your thermal mass in control, then stoke it. Slow and steady wins the race. :)
3. All new units being produced should be free of systemic issues. Of course, every now and again, a problem unit will sneak through, but you can say that about ANY product.


I just want to say a big thank you to everyone on this forum.... Hopefully tomorrow will be my last combustion session! This Ascent couldn't come any faster

Started this reply a few days ago, but got super busy. Hope unit is in your hands, and you have flipped off combustion as you kicked it out the door!
:)


Promo code PCH = Free pouch with Ascent purchase

Don't the units still come with the pouch, or was that just for the pre-orders. The pouch is not something I can see needing two of unless one looses one...


How often are you guys taking a hit when you use your vape?

I don't do "hits" per se, but almost continuously sip it for 10-30 min or more. I'll start at a low temp and go until I feel that temp is exhausted and then raise the temp the the next step, then repeat until I'm about up to 390°F. I know exactly ho much product to put in (dosage control on that end), and I find the slowly sipping it kinda "stokes the fire" (or more specifically, I'm not drawing in a lot of room temp air, so less thermal recovery. Many years ago, I used to smoke a (tobacco) pipe, so something a bit like that. I find I enjoy the whole process that way. Others just want to do 1 big hit, and be done with it.

Is anyone's Ascent too hot to handle after extended use (10+ minutes) - in some spots I can't handle my unit when running around 400F, there are a few spots which m IR Temp read between 150F and up to 170F

I think mine does get hot, but not too hot to hold. But then again, I don't usually go above 390°F.

BTW: Because of the design (the unit is very tightly packed), there is actually LESS insulation between the bowl and the outside wall (This is across the narrowest part of the base) than there is between the bowl and the components inside the base (like the charging port), which are along the long axis (so of course there is a bit more room there. So the front and back sides to the base (centerish near the bowl) are the second hottest part of the device after the bowl itself.

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Conduction vaporization (transfer of heat via direct contact) is what Ascent uses most, as well as some IR.

*AND* some convection. All devices will exhibit some ratio of the three... it just depends on the device design as to what percentage of each is exhibited by the device. (IIRC, I think radiant is the least productive of the three for this discussion, so most people ignore it.) The only way to have 100% is to figure out how to vape in either a vacuum or in zero gravity, and I suspect you might have trouble inhaling in either case.
:p


Convection vaping (transfer of heat via air) doesn't vape while on because it has to heat the air first which then takes the heat to the flower.

That really depends on the design of the device and is not globally true. For example, my Herbalizer is mostly convection, but it works by keeping the bowl *PERFECTLY* at temp. This, of course translates into the bowl essentially always vaping while in use because the heat never changes.

IMHO, however, I feel the "loss" (typically "chimney effect") is negligible.


UNRELATED TO THREAD:
Oh, the new "Quote" option is awesome! I really like how you can queue up a bunch of items to reply to, but keep reading.

It would have saved me a bunch of work had I figured out how it works at sometime sooner than the *END* or writing this post.
:)
 

Smknbud

Well-Known Member
Don't the units still come with the pouch, or was that just for the pre-orders. The pouch is not something I can see needing two of unless one looses one...

I believe the pouch that is free is the Ryot PackRatz

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Delta3DStudios

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Accessory Maker
Hey everyone! Cleaning up my laboratory (workshop), and I came across a few dozen 50mL plastic vials (unused). They are working GREAT as an extraction/cleaning container for the inner and outer glass stems.

I use 1 full of Everclear (Grain) alcohol to extract, then a second one (pictured) soak in ISO for cleaning the corners of the glass screen. These vials are great, I can shake the crap out of it and not a leak escapes the lid. If anyone wants one, PM me, I seriously have more than I could ever use.

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At the end of a long session the bottom section of my ascent is hot as Lucifer's taint. I don't know the exact temp, but those temperatures you listed do not sound out of line to me. It isn't burning myself hot, just warmer than I want to hold onto. At that point, I just shift my grip up. This is only an issue for me when the bowl is a full one and I have turned the unit back on after the auto shutoff.


Yeah, that one spot gets up to 160-170F, but a simple shuffle of the hand and I have no problem handling the unit, but from reading other comments before I received my Ascent, I wasn't expecting it to be that hot. I can live with it, but wanted to be certain mine wasn't acting 'out of the ordinary'.



I see... so we have already figured out the sex, but have you figured out the its name yet.....

:lmao::rofl:



It's a great product, with a known history. A lot of people do like it.




1. "Bowl size" is 'subjective', but, yeah, the flowers really work well.
2. Iit's all about approach. Their are different ways to hit this, depending on what you are trying to elicit. For example, temp points can elicit different reactions. Once you have your thermal mass in control, then stoke it. Slow and steady wins the race. :)
3. All new units being produced should be free of systemic issues. Of course, every now and again, a problem unit will sneak through, but you can say that about ANY product.




Started this reply a few days ago, but got super busy. Hope unit is in your hands, and you have flipped off combustion as you kicked it out the door!
:)




Don't the units still come with the pouch, or was that just for the pre-orders. The pouch is not something I can see needing two of unless one looses one...




I don't do "hits" per se, but almost continuously sip it for 10-30 min or more. I'll start at a low temp and go until I feel that temp is exhausted and then raise the temp the the next step, then repeat until I'm about up to 390°F. I know exactly ho much product to put in (dosage control on that end), and I find the slowly sipping it kinda "stokes the fire" (or more specifically, I'm not drawing in a lot of room temp air, so less thermal recovery. Many years ago, I used to smoke a (tobacco) pipe, so something a bit like that. I find I enjoy the whole process that way. Others just want to do 1 big hit, and be done with it.



I think mine does get hot, but not too hot to hold. But then again, I don't usually go above 390°F.

BTW: Because of the design (the unit is very tightly packed), there is actually LESS insulation between the bowl and the outside wall (This is across the narrowest part of the base) than there is between the bowl and the components inside the base (like the charging port), which are along the long axis (so of course there is a bit more room there. So the front and back sides to the base (centerish near the bowl) are the second hottest part of the device after the bowl itself.

theMoreYouKnow.jpg




*AND* some convection. All devices will exhibit some ratio of the three... it just depends on the device design as to what percentage of each is exhibited by the device. (IIRC, I think radiant is the least productive of the three for this discussion, so most people ignore it.) The only way to have 100% is to figure out how to vape in either a vacuum or in zero gravity, and I suspect you might have trouble inhaling in either case.
:p




That really depends on the design of the device and is not globally true. For example, my Herbalizer is mostly convection, but it works by keeping the bowl *PERFECTLY* at temp. This, of course translates into the bowl essentially always vaping while in use because the heat never changes.

IMHO, however, I feel the "loss" (typically "chimney effect") is negligible.


UNRELATED TO THREAD:
Oh, the new "Quote" option is awesome! I really like how you can queue up a bunch of items to reply to, but keep reading.

It would have saved me a bunch of work had I figured out how it works at sometime sooner than the *END* or writing this post.
:)


Wow! And I thought I could write some long posts! Hahaha :rofl:

Yes, I figured it was simply a lack of space for insulation, and those two spots in particular where the oven is close to the outer skin is obviously the warmest. I was moreso concerned that my unit was operating normally, it's quite a noisy bugger if I'm in a quiet room.

Very interesting, this is the first time I've read any mention of 'stoking' on this thread - great idea, I can see how that would affect vapor production. Further analysis is needed...:cool:

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Edit, Today is a sad day my friends. My Ascent has suffered from the infamous heating element failure! Used it less than 3 hours ago with no problem! Tried to fire up a fresh load just now, and no luck! The unit will not heat up!

Luckily I was able to catch Davinci before they left for the day, so I was able to open an RMA right away, but this sucks! I'll be without a portable vape for at least a week! And I have a D020 coming next week.... hmmm, maybe I should consider a Lotus as a backup PV - no batteries to tinker with, no wires to break....
 
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°k

The sound of vapor
I believe the pouch that is free is the Ryot PackRatz

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This reminds me I was meant to get back here after trying my ascent with this one:
http://www.witzsportcases.com/electronics-cases/dps-locker.html

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Fit:
So yeah it fits rather well, the padding at the bottom and the top is a bit compressed, enough to prevent the Ascent from moving in the case unless you shake it well. That padding can be removed and replaced by some custom foam of yours if you want to make sure it doesn't move at all.
There is some room to add a bag or some Q-tips or whatever you fancy. I'd say it's about 1 cm between the inside of the case to the Ascent (when against the other side) so that a pinky can fit in.

Smell:
It is smell proof to me (and I think I have a pretty sensitive nose but I always wonder about that kind of smell) and is meant to be waterproof (I haven't tried that but I believe it, I know... there's no respect for Science any more!).
Once done vaping I basically just switch the Ascent off, take a couple more draws to cool it down a bit faster and then just put it in the case, close it and shove it in a pocket of my jacket which is on my seat at work... so it better be smell-proof! :p

Protection/durability:
It looks quite solid/resistant to me, but the padding is only on both ends of it and is not that thick, also there's just a thin lining inside the case to prevent scratches but it won't absorb any shock. It'll definitely protect the Ascent from scratches and small shocks but a heavy fall might/would still put the glass inside the Ascent at risk imo.

Design/look:
The black version obviously goes well with the stealth Ascent.
It's rather easy to open or close but I don't think it'd open by itself unless it's in a bag which would experience some severe shuffling. It could be thinner, more roundish but it's not designed especially for the Ascent unfortunately; that said even if it makes thing a bit bulkier it's still very portable.


Overall I don't regret getting it, especially for about $10, I can just throw it in my bag and I don't have to worry about the smell or my Ascent getting scratched, switched on or anything bad that could happen to it which is basically all I was asking for. :tup:

Edit: thinking about it, with a custom foam sleeve added inside to hold the Ascent in place and absorb shocks from all sides, this could be the ultimate protection for it. Add a "hole" in that sleeve for a set of glass stems and this would turn into an amazing case!
 
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CarolKing

Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur
I received my Ed's wooden stem for the Ascent. It's working very well. Ed did a good job pairing it up with the unit. It looks as if it should come that way it fits and works so well and looks so delicate. I still get amazing vapor with a nice rich flavor. It is black wood so it looks really wonderful with my Stealth Ascent.

It gives it a nice feel when you take a draw. Also the right resistance when you adjust the stem up or down. Ed is a fine craftsman and an artist. His pieces look beautiful, I have the Granadillo for the Solo it really is a piece of art.
Ed shipped it out Monday and I received it today. A nice addition to my vape assessories.

I think it's well worth the $38.89, I'm very pleased with my purchase.
 
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°k

The sound of vapor
Out of curiosity, is it recommended to clean wood with iso? If not what do you plan on using? I know my glass tubes can get pretty dirty depending on what I put in the Ascent.

Also, sorry if it has already been shown but I'm curious about how that stem looks like, especially with a stealth ascent, is there any chance you could upload a pic or two for us please?
 
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nigel

And shepherds we shall be,for Accuracy & Discovery
Wow! And I thought I could write some long posts! Hahaha :rofl:

Hi! I'm Nigel. Welcome to this thread.
:rofl:


Very interesting, this is the first time I've read any mention of 'stoking' on this thread - great idea, I can see how that would affect vapor production.

You know how one puffs on an unlit-cigarrette whilst holding the ember of a lit one to it (BTW: ALL- What's the name your friends give to this process? I've heard a few.)? Well kinda like that but slower. :) I get really long sessions from hundreds of tiny puffs.


Edit, Today is a sad day my friends. My Ascent has suffered from the infamous heating element failure!

All of mine haven't seen issues like that. The one I keep as a loaner to friends came back with a "It doesn't charge anymore", so I figured it finally succumbed the the loose solder problem. But I tried plugging it in another time a day later, came back and it was charged!

I know. Weird, right?


and is meant to be waterproof (I haven't tried that but I believe it, I know... there's no respect for Science any more!).

Fill it full of flour. Zip it up. Toss it in pool.
:p

I received my Ed's wooden stem for the Ascent. I still get amazing vapor with a nice rich flavor.

Pix of it didn't happen!

I'm thinking about picking up some. Any affect on taste/performance/etc? Better? Worse? None?
Thanks!
 

°k

The sound of vapor
I use the neighbor's hot tub for that sort of thing. Tie a string on it so I can pull it back.

Part of it is I don't have a pool, the other part is this way he gets to deal with the flour if it leaks out......prolly drive him nuts too. Which is also OK with me.

OF
Alright let me get a neighbour with a hot tub then, but it's really only because it's you OF!
 

CarolKing

Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur
Hi! I'm Nigel. Welcome to this thread.
:rofl:




You know how one puffs on an unlit-cigarrette whilst holding the ember of a lit one to it (BTW: ALL- What's the name your friends give to this process? I've heard a few.)? Well kinda like that but slower. :) I get really long sessions from hundreds of tiny puffs.




All of mine haven't seen issues like that. The one I keep as a loaner to friends came back with a "It doesn't charge anymore", so I figured it finally succumbed the the loose solder problem. But I tried plugging it in another time a day later, came back and it was charged!

I know. Weird, right?




Fill it full of flour. Zip it up. Toss it in pool.
:p



Pix of it didn't happen!

I'm thinking about picking up some. Any affect on taste/performance/etc? Better? Worse? None?
Thanks!
The Eds Ascent stem in my opinion the flavor is similier to the glass but just a bit different. I've used it just once so far, so further testing will be needed.

I'm not getting the earthy taste that I get from the Granadillo stem that I have been using with my Solo. Don't get me wrong, I like the earthy taste, but after time it will go away. The piece is smaller and a different type of wood so that's probably why too.

The draw speed and resistance is similar to the glass gong that's made for the Ascent. The inner wood stem will fall out if you turn the unit up side down, the outer wood stem stays in place.

I'm using cotton on top, so herb doesn't get into the stem. Ed included some pipe cleaners and screens. I think the screens were to put on top of the herb. I don't see how it would fit in the stem.

It's small and delicate but yet sturdy for added portability.

Edit: Thought I would try out the Ascent with the Ed stem before bed. There is a bit of a difference than the glass with the vapor taste, but not in a bad way just a little different. I saw on Ed TNT thread that the screen is put in above the oven in the upper area where the glass stem with the holes would go.

Also the stem stays cool, the vapor is cool too. I vaped the herb until there wasn't any vapor left and the herb continued to have a pretty good flavor. I was impressed by that.

I really like this mouthpiece and I think others will like it too.
 
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Smokedeye

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Totally different subject here:
Have you guys ever made homemade oil with abv to vape in the ascent?
I'm interested in trying out those oil jars and i want to make a good concentrate to vape in the Ascent....
Any suggestions?
 
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OF

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Totally different subject here:
Have you guys ever made homemade oil with abv to vape in the ascent?
I'm interested in trying out those oil jars and i want to make a good concentrate to vape in the Ascent....
Any suggestions?

I suggest you not waste the effort if you can get even regs to run instead. Most of the THC is gone in ABV, so the ratio of junk to good stuff will be bad.

Guys that have done it report mediocre or worse.....mostly worse....results. IMO if you're going to the expense and trouble, do it right?

OF
 
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Smokedeye

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Not even making abv oil with dank weed+stems? I've simmered all of it in some coconut oil for edibles and that worked pretty well but i'm looking for something more concentrated so i can vape it in the ascent. Can i just use less oil and the same amount of weed/abv? Or any other recipes out there? Can i possibly make something out of honey for the taste? So many questions.....
 
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Quetzalcoatl

DEADY GUERRERO/DIRT COBAIN/GEORGE KUSH
Not even making abv oil with dank weed+stems? I've simmered all of it in some coconut oil for edibles and that worked pretty well but i'm looking for something more concentrated so i can vape it in the ascent. Can i just use less oil and the same amount of weed/abv? Or any other recipes out there? Can i possibly make something out of honey for the taste? So many questions.....
I've made ABV oil. Tastes funny, works depending on how vaped your material is.
 
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Quetzalcoatl

DEADY GUERRERO/DIRT COBAIN/GEORGE KUSH
No, I haven't used an Ascent, but ABV oil still works. I like washing it with alcohol instead of doing a butane run.
 
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Norcalsun

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Google QWISO. Quick wash isopropyl . Freeze your ABV and your 99%- 91% iso. Put ABV in jar and pour enough iso to cover it. Then swirl it for 20 sec. and pour it through a filter to separate ABV. Then pour that iso through 2or3 paper coffee filters onto a large Pyrex or glass dish. Evaporate with a fan blowing on it for about 24hrs or until its completely evaporated. Then scrape with a razor blade. Don't do this indoors, iso is very flammable. Definitely read up on it. I only gave a brief how to guide. GL
 

Delta3DStudios

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Accessory Maker
Google QWISO. Quick wash isopropyl . Freeze your ABV and your 99%- 91% iso. Put ABV in jar and pour enough iso to cover it. Then swirl it for 20 sec. and pour it through a filter to separate ABV. Then pour that iso through 2or3 paper coffee filters onto a large Pyrex or glass dish. Evaporate with a fan blowing on it for about 24hrs or until its completely evaporated. Then scrape with a razor blade. Don't do this indoors, iso is very flammable. Definitely read up on it. I only gave a brief how to guide. GL

Ew, I prefer Grain Alcohol (190 proof) to extract from ABV and reclaim from my glass Ascent stems.
I only use ISO to clean, never if I intend to ingest
 
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