aero18
vaporist
Welcome to the family of Zappers!B. said:My MZ shipped yesterday
EDIT: How about some pr0nz?
My Zap is seriously not getting hot enough. I'm going to go drop by a couple of stores tomorrow and look for a 13.5 volt AC adaptor.
When vaping with three people, the temperature does not stay hot enough to get the material inside the tube to be fully browned.
Rick, any specific requirements beyond that?
AGBeer
Lost in Thought
Im tellin you - GET THE COOZIE! 
I thought the same thing initially, but that coozie made all of the difference. I now rarely if ever use my 13.5 anymore. I do plan on trying the 13.5 and a coozie one of these days, but with the 12 it makes all the difference.
(But that is some sick ass pr0n btw)
I thought the same thing initially, but that coozie made all of the difference. I now rarely if ever use my 13.5 anymore. I do plan on trying the 13.5 and a coozie one of these days, but with the 12 it makes all the difference.
(But that is some sick ass pr0n btw)
Rick
Zapman
aero18
You do know the Zap is not designed to be a big hitting party Vape? I also have some concern running it upside down. Heat always rises so you have the heat produced in the Zap migrating to the bottom chamber where it does no good. Then there is the factor of supporting the whole unit by a stem tip and heatport tube. I don't recommend that. I would rather see the Zap on a surface, as it was designed(for).
If you cannot find a 13.5, we do have them. As I recall, you wanted one at first with your order, then decided not to get one?
Nice pics for sure. Thanks for showing all your stuff.
You do know the Zap is not designed to be a big hitting party Vape? I also have some concern running it upside down. Heat always rises so you have the heat produced in the Zap migrating to the bottom chamber where it does no good. Then there is the factor of supporting the whole unit by a stem tip and heatport tube. I don't recommend that. I would rather see the Zap on a surface, as it was designed(for).
If you cannot find a 13.5, we do have them. As I recall, you wanted one at first with your order, then decided not to get one?
Nice pics for sure. Thanks for showing all your stuff.
AGBeer
Lost in Thought
So what would you suggest for those of us looking to possibly get some glass for our Zaps? Tubing running to the downstem of the glass? (My original thought) It did cross my mind a bit about using the Zap upside down, but I didnt figure that it would be too big of a deal. (Although longevity of my unit is keen)Rick said:
Thanx
Rick
Zapman
AGBeer
Yes, tubing, as short as possible, to the downstream of the glass. Seems like that setup would be easier to operate and reload also.
Another consideration is the glass itself as it is not designed to have over 1/2 pound hanging at a 45 from the inspout.
Could be Zaps and glass will last and last doing that. We will soon find out I suppose if there is a potential problem.
I do think, without any proof, that the Zap could make a bit cooler air when used upside down.
Yes, tubing, as short as possible, to the downstream of the glass. Seems like that setup would be easier to operate and reload also.
Another consideration is the glass itself as it is not designed to have over 1/2 pound hanging at a 45 from the inspout.
Could be Zaps and glass will last and last doing that. We will soon find out I suppose if there is a potential problem.
I do think, without any proof, that the Zap could make a bit cooler air when used upside down.
DevoTheStrange
Ia! Ia! Vapor Fthagn!
I don't think heat loss would be a major issue with what direction the MZ is pointing. I believe ambient temp of the room you are in would affect the MZ more than what direction it is pointing.
I was wondering if the following piece would be just as useful using a bong with the stems. I plan on getting this or something similar (maybe a GonG sherlock with a narrower mouthpiece) I kind of don't like the mouth piece, wish it were a smaller opening.
This is a Weedstar WS Connector sold at everyonedoesit.com
I plan on buying one too use with my vaporstar, figured it might work with stems as well.
I was wondering if the following piece would be just as useful using a bong with the stems. I plan on getting this or something similar (maybe a GonG sherlock with a narrower mouthpiece) I kind of don't like the mouth piece, wish it were a smaller opening.
This is a Weedstar WS Connector sold at everyonedoesit.com
I plan on buying one too use with my vaporstar, figured it might work with stems as well.
lwien
Well-Known Member
I don't use any tubing whatsoever, just the stem in the bong. But...........I don't let the bong support the weight of the vape. I put a loaded stem into the bong and then hold the vape over the stem only when I'm hitting it, much like was done in vtac's vid with the Ehle. Has been working great.
DevoTheStrange
Ia! Ia! Vapor Fthagn!
I tend too use my bong without water, (this only works sans h2o) and hold the bong straight out, parallel too the ground almost, downstem pointing down back at my chest.
and hold my unit below it pointing up at a 45 degree, the same angle it would be if I were using it without a bong. The vaporizer actually rests on my chest as I hit it.
This way I can hold onto the vape as well as the stem, so when I am done with my hit I move the bong away too clear it, instead of moving the vape. This way all the pressure put on the stem is the weight of the bong, not the weight of the vape.
now if I use water I do the method described by lwien
and hold my unit below it pointing up at a 45 degree, the same angle it would be if I were using it without a bong. The vaporizer actually rests on my chest as I hit it.
This way I can hold onto the vape as well as the stem, so when I am done with my hit I move the bong away too clear it, instead of moving the vape. This way all the pressure put on the stem is the weight of the bong, not the weight of the vape.
now if I use water I do the method described by lwien
mnmlh
Well-Known Member
As soon as the EHLE gets here, I will have a tubed setup, but being that the tubing has a 1/2" ID, I am concerned that I won't be able to get a big enough adapter. I'd prefer not to use a rubber adapter, as it seems to defeat the purpose of the high temp silicon, but 1" piece of tube with a 1/2" OD and a thick wall should allow it to step down in size quite a bit. I'm not going to spend another $20 for just that part though.
As a note, the tube that fits over the MZ stems IS large and isn't really something you put your lips all the way around like I imagine some of the more standard whip tubing is like. More like a steamroller, or mini bong. The pressure you can create with something this large is almost too much, but is much easier on the diaphragm.
As a note, the tube that fits over the MZ stems IS large and isn't really something you put your lips all the way around like I imagine some of the more standard whip tubing is like. More like a steamroller, or mini bong. The pressure you can create with something this large is almost too much, but is much easier on the diaphragm.
aero18
vaporist
Rick, I was holding the 'Zap by the body in the picture I took. I never rest the MZ on the joint of the stem or by the vapor tube itself. Also, I set the MZ down after each hit.
Even though I know that this is not a 'party' vape, 2-3 people shouldn't be too bad if I use the 13.5 volt. Also, with the bong, I'd like to get the cannabinoids with higher melting points. The vapor running through the bong is very mild and so the higher temperature shouldn't concern me too much.
AGBeer: I've got a coozie, but the ABV is still not as dark as I'd like. I have noticed that the MZ is much hotter in my dorm room than in my house, even with the coozie. I think I'd only use the 13.5 volt at home and with other people.
Even though I know that this is not a 'party' vape, 2-3 people shouldn't be too bad if I use the 13.5 volt. Also, with the bong, I'd like to get the cannabinoids with higher melting points. The vapor running through the bong is very mild and so the higher temperature shouldn't concern me too much.
AGBeer: I've got a coozie, but the ABV is still not as dark as I'd like. I have noticed that the MZ is much hotter in my dorm room than in my house, even with the coozie. I think I'd only use the 13.5 volt at home and with other people.
Rick
Zapman
See what pictures do? I missed that you guys were supporting the Zap by hand when it is upside down in the glass. That would be fine and I agree with fear420 that the 13.5 would do better in that situation, might even keep three college guys pumping all night on it! For sure the less tubing the better.
Man, I guess we are going to have to try the glass/Zap combo. Looks like we have been missing something here in Zapville.
Man, I guess we are going to have to try the glass/Zap combo. Looks like we have been missing something here in Zapville.
I used that method with my Zap and it works perfectly with the 12 v standard, for me. I exhale mucho vapor so I can't imagine anyone wanting to exhale more. Maybe if you want it hotter to release the cannabanoids(?) or whatever?FEAR420 said:Thats EXACTLY what I do & it works perfect so far. Also,when Im using this method,Im STRICTLY using the 13.5V plug since heat does rise and you do lose some to the upside down flip....B. said:
But since Rick said supporting the Zap that way might cause damage, I decided to go with the bong-to-tube-to-stem-to-Zap set up. I just ordered some 1/2 inch ID blue silicon tubing (see earlier post here) and will connect that to the Stem on one end and the glass on the other. Can't wait to try it, it should work great.
Rick, I don't see why the tube should be "as short as possible"? I am using 2 feet with success. I think if you make it too long, especially maybe with the 1/2" diameter tubing, it might require too much breath? Not sure on that...
(My present set up involves a GonG adapter that fits to vinyl tubing then a rubber adaptor to the stem. If anyone wants to see that, I have pictures, but it's for using with a much thinner vinyl tubing, and god knows where you can get a rubber adaptor like I found at an old-school head shop!) :/
lwien
Well-Known Member
It may 'cause damage if you are letting the weight of the Zap rest on the stem, but I believe what we are talking about here is just holding the Zap to the stem when you're hitting it, but not allowing any weight to be distributed to the stem or the bong. That's what I do and I can't see how any damage could result from doing it this way. One advantage of not using a whip is that there is just one less thing to lose THC due to condensation on. Enough is being lost in the bong, the way I see it. No need to add anything that would cause more.MoeOnTheMoon said:
AGBeer
Lost in Thought
(I hate to say this again) but you might want to try your LHBS. I know one that I have here has stoppers of all sizes, drilled and not drilled (at all different diameters)MoeOnTheMoon said:
Or you can possibly find them online. I would be inclined to believe this wouldnt be too difficult to make happen
I might have a mission ahead of me in the not so distant future..
Rick
Zapman
lwien
I love your new avatar or whatever they are called. Is that a Malamute being cuddled by the Polar Bear? We love Malamutes and have a handful or so. Matter of fact, old Papa(Glacier) is heading back home tonight. He is about 13 which is old for a big(150 lbs or so) Malamute. He has been going down for quite awhile so it is all expected and easy for him so far. At least that is what he tells us. But then dogs are like that. Tough on Zaplady though.
Again, if y'all are supporting the Zap with your hand when using it in the glass, that should be just fine. It was the pic of the unsupported one that got me.
I love your new avatar or whatever they are called. Is that a Malamute being cuddled by the Polar Bear? We love Malamutes and have a handful or so. Matter of fact, old Papa(Glacier) is heading back home tonight. He is about 13 which is old for a big(150 lbs or so) Malamute. He has been going down for quite awhile so it is all expected and easy for him so far. At least that is what he tells us. But then dogs are like that. Tough on Zaplady though.
Again, if y'all are supporting the Zap with your hand when using it in the glass, that should be just fine. It was the pic of the unsupported one that got me.
lwien
Well-Known Member
Check this out Rick. http://www.bestweekever.tv/2008-2-13/nicebreaker-hot-polar-bear-and-dog-cuddling-action/Rick said:
But yeah, 13 is old for a big dog. It's soooooo sad when they go 'cause they bring us so much joy and comfort when they're here. I love Mutes too, which reminds me. I run at this high school track and there was this girl there who had the most interesting mix that I have ever seen and it was sooo obvious what the mix was. It was part Malamute and part Newfoundland.
. What a great looking dog. Just made me smile. I love Newfies too.
IAmKrazy2
Darth Vapor
Really never tried the glass to Zap Rick? Using your wood as a lighter is the key. I usually hold the wood there for a few seconds before I start hitting. I usually lightly spin the wood back and forth on the stem while hitting, seems to help heat distributing on an angel maybe? For hits with my Zap I would use my 13v plug for sure.