Aromazap/Myrtlezap/CeramicRockZap

[vap999]

I respectfully disagree. I would put my black locust CRZ up against any other log vape and expect to win. Thick white clouds trickling down into some wispy ones. Averaging a good 5-10 hits per stem. It is a beast. The PD I had couldn't compete. Even my "cooler" running one with the "bluish" vapor outperforms the PD.

The PD had a pretty good performance, My CRZ has out-fucking-standing performance. My opinion, of course.

I think comments about different similar log-style vaporizers being "better" than another are generally inappropriate or off base. In this and most cases, with "better" associated with vapor density (presumed related to dosage delivery), it simply means one model (or a specific vaporizer) inherently runs hotter and/or is slightly more efficient in its dynamic air heating ability. I presume that different model Eterra/PD/CRZ/etc.-class log vaporizers used with variable power supplies could each be set by users to comparable 'sweet spots' and would perform, do the job, including producing dense/visible vapor, the same as each other.

Can anyone propose any reasons why one log vaporizer would be "better" than another (for vapor production), other than inherent operating temperature and heat exchanger efficiency, both parameters that could be balanced (well enough, for all practical purposes) by customizing their power settings?

 

[OhTheAgony]

Wow! I was just looking over the thread and realizing again how nice it will be when we can say fluctuating log vape temps are a thing of the past. When she is too cold, crank up the dial. If she is too hot, crank down the dial. Then I passed the pink penis posts and flashed on some effects of aging. And then I thought........hmmmmm, could we...........make a..........????? Maybe a unisex model?????

And then......off to Alan with the idea....no wait......he only does wood, glass, electro, mechanical, airflows......turbo tubes.....and more ...and we'd better not get him sidetracked either.

Maybe Dave will be into it?
Isn't it neat to have the log vape world on FC a fun place, all the time?
Lots of memories since the beginning here on FC. Late May 2009...........hmmmm a three year anniversary coming up soon. Maybe we will have a party?

Haha, I just ran in to an old discussion between Tom and Alan in the PD thread about variable voltage vs the heating element used in these wooden vapes.

I'm so glad that stubborn-close-minded and grumpy old man is gone now, I still can't believe he got away with so much crap. He was downright insulting to Alan at times, without even getting a mod-note whatsoever. Good ridence I say, the current active log-vapes threads are such nicer places to be

But back to the penis:

Not sure how you picture this unisex model Rick, elaborate please?

 

[Rick]

vap999, My OPINION is the CRZ is the best, period. I can say that on this thread and will. Others can say that here too if they stay away from naming competitors. Not inappropriate or off base at all. Naming a competitor that is no longer in business, which was the only one mentioned in your quoted text, is totally appropriate too.

A VV Power supply will help any fixed temp log vape do better but I think all of us log vape makers thinks ours is the best and we have reasons for saying that. And we are all just as correct as the others. I did notice your quote from magic9 was from a few pages back.

Now lets end that discussion and anything derogatory about any past FC personality please.
My apologies for bringing up the past in any way. I was just trying to pass on how sweet it is now.
People can read all the old drama they want but that was yesterday.

Unisex model was for another invention, not a log vape.

 

[Alan]

He was opposed to selling me a PD so I had no other choice but to make my own.

The log-vape threads are very entertaining these days.

I will probably pass on the unisex model Rick. I'm trying to resist any more models to produce (just saw Ricks post - not a log vape - interesting).

Nice to hear you will be offering speedometers (voltage indication) and speed regulation (voltage control) for your heat engines Rick. Hope everyone keeps it under the speed limit.

 

[Rick]

Thanks for the words Alan
We will do our best to get the word out on top speeds when we get the VV out there.
The invention I was referring to would be something to help us old people get hotter by upping the dial. Cooler too as the female gender has to deal with hot flashes.
Actually it was something like Viagra for both sexes but not a pill. Just hold on to the device, crank up the knob and you are good to go, just like when young.

Y'all will find out. Aging is a challenge. We will just say that.

 

[kewpcer]

@rick

USPS says that they dropped my zap off to ya. You need me to email you so you can put a name with the zap?

 

[Magic9]

I think comments about different similar log-style vaporizers being "better" than another are generally inappropriate or off base. In this and most cases, with "better" associated with vapor density (presumed related to dosage delivery), it simply means one model (or a specific vaporizer) inherently runs hotter and/or is slightly more efficient in its dynamic air heating ability. I presume that different model Eterra/PD/CRZ/etc.-class log vaporizers used with variable power supplies could each be set by users to comparable 'sweet spots' and would perform, do the job, including producing dense/visible vapor, the same as each other.

Can anyone propose any reasons why one log vaporizer would be "better" than another (for vapor production), other than inherent operating temperature and heat exchanger efficiency, both parameters that could be balanced (well enough, for all practical purposes) by customizing their power settings?

You made my point better than I did. The CRZ should not be overlooked as a "hard/heavy hitter". With the current generation of logs, it pretty much comes down to personal preference. Rick, Dave and Alan are masters at their craft and I look forward to what the future may bring. We log vape owners are in very good hands.

One point in your post that sticks out, is I never said "better". We at FC, know that "better" is subjective. Your use of quotation marks (after quoting my post) makes it seem like I was trying to say one was "better" than the other. What I had found, was "outperformed". I will say the last generation of logs (Eterra/PD), are outperformed by the new-gen (CRZ,UD,HI). I hope that is not too off base.

 

[Rick]

@kewpcer- fuck dude, do you really think I do not know what name goes with that Zap????! Actually it looks pretty damn good from the outside and the rattle is not so bad. I'll get to it tomorrow and possibly use it to show off the CRZ durability here on FC. I am not sure what I will do with it but I do think she has much more life. Thanks for getting it here, especially as the higher voltage issue is coming up. Nice timing. WTF do those 13.5s run at with a load anyway? I'll get with you tomorrow sometime. Yes, I still have some of your Myrtle......somewhere, but cut too short for a Zap. Maybe a bubbler holder?
Magic9, you are right on base.

 

[kewpcer]

@rick

14.3 vdc. It had over 60 days of total time on that transformer.

And that Myrtle was a sweet piece, but I don't know if I need a bubbler holder, as I can't really spare the change for a bubbler and a rework of my Zap into better wood. I've been liking some of the ambrosia maple stuff lately. We'll figure something out.

 

[THCMuscle]

I am making this post to mainly to inform future zap owners of the awesome customer service thst they will be buying along with their Zap.

Ever since I got my Sumo zap it seemed that it ran a bit cooler than my other two. I still continued to use it as my daily driver, but after about a 2 months I decided to ask Rick if he could make it run any hotter. He said send it in, after recieving it he ran it though his check and even though it seemed to function correctly to him, he took out the heater for a test. It was over Ohms, so he decided to replace it with a brand new core! Not only that, he sanded it a bit and gave it one of his new super-ridiculous shines. My zap was returned to me essentially brand new, and in my opinion much improved due to its amazing appearance. Thank you so much Rick!!,

Here is a photo of it before :

Here it is now:

 

[Willuminati]

that is a beautiful piece and agreed, thank you rick and my lungs do too.

 

[momofthegoons]

THCMuscle, that is a beautiful CRZ. So glad you were able to get it back even nicer than before and are happy with it.

I think my next purchase will be one of Rick's VV's. It will be a fun way to "play" with my Zaps.

 

[Jeppy]

Dear THC,,,,I love your Zap,,,but mine is better.

 

[lwien]

Bee-A-U-Ti-Full !!!!

 

[Rick]

THCs Sumo was some careful fun. As soon as we unpacked it(it was sent in a round hard cardboard tube, the perfect size. Very slick) I knew I was going to give her the treatment if possible. She was made before I had my three wheel buffing mandrel for my old lathe. That meant a re-sanding but first the old surface needed to be planed off on the lathe for a good sanding job. I also thought the bottom was a little fat, something I normally enjoy but not on my Zaps. So glad you like it THC. I thought you might.
THCs unit also had a 22 ohm resistor when it arrived. I replaced it with one right at 20 ohms that read 21 ohms the next day, hot or cold.
I do like to shine them up if they come back for any work. I am thinking kewpcers may get the same treatment only I will take it down just a little and make it look different. A new girl look for the old girl. Tomorrow for that one. I'll do a before and after shot.
A few new CRZs done today and up tonight or early AM.

 

[DannyVi]

THCs Sumo was some careful fun. As soon as we unpacked it(it was sent in a round hard cardboard tube, the perfect size. Very slick) I knew I was going to give her the treatment if possible. She was made before I had my three wheel buffing mandrel for my old lathe. That meant a re-sanding but first the old surface needed to be planed off on the lathe for a good sanding job. I also thought the bottom was a little fat, something I normally enjoy but not on my Zaps. So glad you like it THC. I thought you might.
THCs unit also had a 22 ohm resistor when it arrived. I replaced it with one right at 20 ohms that read 21 ohms the next day, hot or cold.
I do like to shine them up if they come back for any work. I am thinking kewpcers may get the same treatment only I will take it down just a little and make it look different. A new girl look for the old girl. Tomorrow for that one. I'll do a before and after shot.
A few new CRZs done today and up tonight or early AM.

Complete sell out on the site get them UP lol. I knew that would happen they all looked like primos...

 

[Vitolo]

Had a great visit with Rick on the phone tonight.
Two old farts catching up on stuff.
We talked about many things, ....among them was the CRZ Bubbler.
I love that little fucker! "Uncle Vito swore!!!"

I have been holding back here in my local Patient Community from showcasing the CRZ Bubblers...
because I know that when my visitors see me using them in person, we are going to have Zapville hopping!
I am planning to start demoing it as a regular part of the vape show, now that summer approaches!

 

[DannyVi]

Had a great visit with Rick on the phone tonight.
Two old farts catching up on stuff.
We talked about many things, ....among them was the CRZ Bubbler.
I love that little fucker! "Uncle Vito swore!!!"

I have been holding back here in my local Patient Community from showcasing the CRZ Bubblers...
because I know that when my visitors see me using them in person, we are going to have Zapville hopping!
I am planning to start demoing it as a regular part of the vape show, now that summer approaches!

So if there's a sell out we know whose fault it was....

 

[Vitolo]

Ahhh you misunderstood....
I have patiently waited, and will continue to do so.. to give Zapville time to stock up and for you guys to score before summer!
" now that summer approaches!"

 

[DannyVi]

Ahhh you misunderstood....
I have patiently waited, and will continue to do so.. to give Zapville time to stock up and for you guys to score before summer!
" now that summer approaches!"

Ah haha I was just kidding. I got mine first go around, couldn't be happier.

 

[Jeppy]

Aging is a challenge. We will just say that.

You got that right and all I can say is,,,and I quote "Getting old aint for sissy's"!

 

[megan5marie]

Hi all. Many thanks for all the great information here; helped me understand my zap much more quickly than blind trial and error. I haven't posted here before; just got mine a couple months ago, and didn't see the point in wasting anybody's time posting before I understood it.

I love it. Thank you very much, Rick. This thing tastes so, so much better than an ashy, burnt-tasting pipe. I feel like I'm sucking on a Christmas tree now; the weed tastes almost minty to me now, regardless of the strain. I love it. Also, I definitely do go through less weed, now that I've learned to use the zap efficiently. (The most helpful tip I read here is to let outside air come in through the corners of your mouth; don't exclusively suck in the air from the stem, or you'll be too light-headed to enjoy your hit--which will also be weaker, in that case.)

I think I'm doing pretty well using it. I haven't had super-milky hits, but from what I understand that's the norm, and I'm good with that. I'm happy with the hits I'm getting; they don't look like rivers, but they're cloudy, and they're hard. Here's what's been working for me:

* Loose pack. I usually just suck it up, and if it's full I'll tap it with my finger a bit, but I never pack it.
* Very dry weed, ground fine.
* A couple big puffs, then long, slow draws (pulling in air from outside the stem, too).

I've been keeping a coozie around it. (It's actually a pretty sweet little thing; I wish I weren't too lazy to take pictures. It's the thick, old-fashioned kind, with the-hole in the closed end. Near that end I cut another hole, for the port, and on the open end I cut a notch for the port. Now I can put the coozie on in either direction--without the cord being in the way--depending on how hot I want it. I'm high right now, so this seems like an incredible feat of engineering to me...)

The only question I have so far is: Is it okay to keep the coozie on it all the time? I just want to make sure I'm not being too hard on it keeping it that hot. I know it's made to withstand being hot 24/7, but since it's not made to be quite THAT hot, I've been worrying.

Thanks, everybody, for the info here and for any answers to my coozie questions you can give. And thanks for the awesome vape, Rick.

Megan

PS: Here she is:
http://s1051.photobucket.com/albums/s429/megan5marie/?action=view&current=4-28021.jpg

 

[J.R.R.Tokin']

Welcome. She's a beauty megan

As to the coozie it isn't recommended to leave on 24/7. Usually people just put it on 5-10 mins before they want to use it and then take it off if the Zap isn't going to be used for a while or over night.

 

[megan5marie]

Thanks! I'll be sure to remove it no matter how sleepy I am now...

 

[Nycdeisel]

Shes a pretty one you got there.

I dont recommend that you even tap down a very full stem. It seems to work best when its just less then full. like this
just load it up loosely and start with the zap tilted up a little for the first hit