kewpcer
Active Member
I leave it in.
While I have noticed that there is some passive vaping that happens, it seems to slow to effect a normal sesh for me (30sec-5min between hits). My Zap seems to do the lion's share of its work in the first 2 pulls. The 2-3 that follow are wispy, and I tend to do the first 2 from every stem back to back. I imagine there's not much mojo left after those 2 to "bake away" in the intervening couple of minutes.
I'd say more than 5 mins, take it out.
While I have noticed that there is some passive vaping that happens, it seems to slow to effect a normal sesh for me (30sec-5min between hits). My Zap seems to do the lion's share of its work in the first 2 pulls. The 2-3 that follow are wispy, and I tend to do the first 2 from every stem back to back. I imagine there's not much mojo left after those 2 to "bake away" in the intervening couple of minutes.
I'd say more than 5 mins, take it out.
return2heaven
Well-Known Member
just wondering, do you guys polish your zaps while they're plugged in?
return2heaven
Well-Known Member
good thinking, thanks lwien
Vitolo
Vaporist
Mine is plugged in 24/7... and only unplugged during the polishing.
I unplug, and polish, so that the ZaPolish is soaking in, and I let the unit cool to rub it off and buff.
lwien's reason was a good one. I do same but for a different reason.
My reason is to let the stuff soak in, and then when it is cool, the waxes wont exude out during the buff since the unit is cool.
I unplug, and polish, so that the ZaPolish is soaking in, and I let the unit cool to rub it off and buff.
lwien's reason was a good one. I do same but for a different reason.
My reason is to let the stuff soak in, and then when it is cool, the waxes wont exude out during the buff since the unit is cool.
Vitolo
Vaporist
It is true that I use this technique. I did not learn it from any document, it was through observation during waxing. (yes.. I have gone through an entire can of polish already!)
It is because I notice a drier look and more polish physically coming off when I wipe it down when dry.
When I smoked a tobacco pipe in my youth I used the same technique, and only buffed when pipe was cooled.
If you find a very dry looking spot on your unit, try it out. if you rub polish on it it soaks right in... and you can add until it sits.... wipe it well, and wood will show its pores when you get close up.
do it again, but unplug after laying the wax on... and when cool buff off. you will notice a reduction, if not absence of visible pores.
It is because I notice a drier look and more polish physically coming off when I wipe it down when dry.
When I smoked a tobacco pipe in my youth I used the same technique, and only buffed when pipe was cooled.
If you find a very dry looking spot on your unit, try it out. if you rub polish on it it soaks right in... and you can add until it sits.... wipe it well, and wood will show its pores when you get close up.
do it again, but unplug after laying the wax on... and when cool buff off. you will notice a reduction, if not absence of visible pores.
kewpcer
Active Member
My initial thoughts on the "Power Adapter" question.
Well, I've had a few stems now through the Walnut Zap with the 13.5vdc 1000mA Jameco adapter. So far I've tried the 12v naked, 12v double layer koozie, and now the 13.5vdc. All of these were observed using the same homogenized herb source, as performance varies based on quality in my experience. These are my results with MY Zap. YMMV.
12vac naked: 2-3 hits with exhaled vapor, with the first being the richest by far in taste and texture. ABV is still noticeably green, but mostly light tan.
12vac koozie: 4-5 hits with exhaled vapor, the first 2 being the richest. ABV is uniformly medium tan.
13.5vdc: 3-4 hits with exhalant, with the first being very dense and rich. ABV is mixed brown/tan.
I need some more... ahem... trials, but I'm really liking the 13.5vdc. Not too worried about 24/7 with it, as the enemy of these things is heat, and they're left with koozies on 24/7 all the time. Mine would nearly burn your hand if you took the koozie off of it. If I lose this bet, I'm sure the resistor isn't all that expensive.
UPDATE:
Kind of hard to get a full rip on a fresh stem with the 13.5vdc. It starts tickling and I have to stop and wait a sec, or slow my pull even more. However, when I pull it off... Yeesh. The fog rolls out across my desk. Barely a second hit left after one of those. This thing is a beast! It'd be perfect for bongin'. It'd have no problem toasting the whole stem in 1 pull.
2nd UPDATE:
Too many trials...
Well, I've had a few stems now through the Walnut Zap with the 13.5vdc 1000mA Jameco adapter. So far I've tried the 12v naked, 12v double layer koozie, and now the 13.5vdc. All of these were observed using the same homogenized herb source, as performance varies based on quality in my experience. These are my results with MY Zap. YMMV.
12vac naked: 2-3 hits with exhaled vapor, with the first being the richest by far in taste and texture. ABV is still noticeably green, but mostly light tan.
12vac koozie: 4-5 hits with exhaled vapor, the first 2 being the richest. ABV is uniformly medium tan.
13.5vdc: 3-4 hits with exhalant, with the first being very dense and rich. ABV is mixed brown/tan.
I need some more... ahem... trials, but I'm really liking the 13.5vdc. Not too worried about 24/7 with it, as the enemy of these things is heat, and they're left with koozies on 24/7 all the time. Mine would nearly burn your hand if you took the koozie off of it. If I lose this bet, I'm sure the resistor isn't all that expensive.
UPDATE:
Kind of hard to get a full rip on a fresh stem with the 13.5vdc. It starts tickling and I have to stop and wait a sec, or slow my pull even more. However, when I pull it off... Yeesh. The fog rolls out across my desk. Barely a second hit left after one of those. This thing is a beast! It'd be perfect for bongin'. It'd have no problem toasting the whole stem in 1 pull.
2nd UPDATE:
Too many trials...
Rick
Zapman
kewpcer, here's the deal, in my opinion anyway.
Most of the walnut wood falls within a close range of density. Most of it is right in there, producing high mid-range vapor. On occasion a block of wood will be slightly more or less dense than the 'normal' ones. This is very difficult to determine until the Zap has been on for several hours. The difference also is slight. That could be ONE REASON for your experience. Another could be your electrical grid. Could be you are a few volts lower than other grids.
We live in the Pacific Northwest with an abundance of relatively cheap power. Our grid is almost always "pumped up". I am looking at the meter right now and we are at 123 volts. Sometimes 124. So when we test Zaps before going out, we are at the high end of the electric grid. They always make good vapor, some make very good vapor. We have also been doing this for ten years so we can pull vapor with maximum efficiency so a not real hot runner will still give us good vapor at the test stage. We also only shoot for "good vapor", not massive thick clouds.
There is also the fact that many of all you folks want vapor right below smoke. Very thick. Our vape is not designed to produce vapor at the top end of the range. It can do it with a Koozy or 13.5 as shown above.
Anyway, just a few thoughts on wuz up or could be up with your Zap.
Vitolos Ravin is on the bench now and making vapor. Vapor production fair but not the way she should be. I have opened her up and given her a good exam. She looks fine but we see alot of solder on the plug center post. A bottom end exam will not tell us the entire picture though so we will have to go in from the top also. We will give her a little workover as Vitolo is correct in that she has a cold.
A few more Zaps out tomorrow for a Monday arrival. We are still a bit behind one week from order to ship but are gaining.
Most of the walnut wood falls within a close range of density. Most of it is right in there, producing high mid-range vapor. On occasion a block of wood will be slightly more or less dense than the 'normal' ones. This is very difficult to determine until the Zap has been on for several hours. The difference also is slight. That could be ONE REASON for your experience. Another could be your electrical grid. Could be you are a few volts lower than other grids.
We live in the Pacific Northwest with an abundance of relatively cheap power. Our grid is almost always "pumped up". I am looking at the meter right now and we are at 123 volts. Sometimes 124. So when we test Zaps before going out, we are at the high end of the electric grid. They always make good vapor, some make very good vapor. We have also been doing this for ten years so we can pull vapor with maximum efficiency so a not real hot runner will still give us good vapor at the test stage. We also only shoot for "good vapor", not massive thick clouds.
There is also the fact that many of all you folks want vapor right below smoke. Very thick. Our vape is not designed to produce vapor at the top end of the range. It can do it with a Koozy or 13.5 as shown above.
Anyway, just a few thoughts on wuz up or could be up with your Zap.
Vitolos Ravin is on the bench now and making vapor. Vapor production fair but not the way she should be. I have opened her up and given her a good exam. She looks fine but we see alot of solder on the plug center post. A bottom end exam will not tell us the entire picture though so we will have to go in from the top also. We will give her a little workover as Vitolo is correct in that she has a cold.
A few more Zaps out tomorrow for a Monday arrival. We are still a bit behind one week from order to ship but are gaining.
kewpcer
Active Member
I never really thought there was anything wrong with my Zap. After a few days it burned in and I got used to hitting it, and it started working as advertised. Satisfying hits of lower temp vapor that produce a very clear energetic high.
As you say, I tend to like a thicker high-temp hit at night that pulls more of the higher temp sedatives and analgesic compounds, and 4-layer terpene rings and whatever. I like to get roasted and go to bed, lol. That's not really what I'd consider the range of a log vape, so I adapted mine. I don't cook with my ABV so I'm not really worried about keeping it nice anyway.
Different strokes.
Love my Zap though. Just posted my observations all together to try and add some concision to the topic.
As you say, I tend to like a thicker high-temp hit at night that pulls more of the higher temp sedatives and analgesic compounds, and 4-layer terpene rings and whatever. I like to get roasted and go to bed, lol. That's not really what I'd consider the range of a log vape, so I adapted mine. I don't cook with my ABV so I'm not really worried about keeping it nice anyway.
Different strokes.
Love my Zap though. Just posted my observations all together to try and add some concision to the topic.
sharkvszombie299
Well-Known Member
thanks for the input on the stems guys. i tend to leave mine on as i finish the stem pretty quick (although some times ill space out lol) if im gonna be vaping for a long time i also tend to rotate the three stems i have. Vitolo im praying for you zap!
momofthegoons
vapor accessory addict
Vito, you've done it again. I literally choked on my coffee out when I saw your post. Don't worry....Ravin is in capable hands. If anyone can fix her, the Zapman can!
kewpcer
Active Member
Time for an afternoon tube! Zap up!
Got to use the zap as a social vape today and it worked great. No whips to get pulled out. No long winded monologs on how to hit it just right. Just "Here. Like it's a milkshake but not so hard." and off to the races, we all got nice vapor. The cord on the PA is long enough that it gets around my "cozy" accommodations. And, I get the "Wow. What kind of wood is this. It's shimmering."
"It's bespoke intensely figured walnut. Hand turned to order."
Just pleased as punch with my IntenseZap. AromaZap and PD definitely constitute the Savile Row of vaporizers.
Got to use the zap as a social vape today and it worked great. No whips to get pulled out. No long winded monologs on how to hit it just right. Just "Here. Like it's a milkshake but not so hard." and off to the races, we all got nice vapor. The cord on the PA is long enough that it gets around my "cozy" accommodations. And, I get the "Wow. What kind of wood is this. It's shimmering."
"It's bespoke intensely figured walnut. Hand turned to order."
Just pleased as punch with my IntenseZap. AromaZap and PD definitely constitute the Savile Row of vaporizers.
gettin lifted
psychonaut
so i unplugged my zap because i havent been up to vaping lately after my huge tolerance break and im giving myself even more time off. got too much going on right now and getting baked for 6 hours off a few hits on a stem can't be done right now. look at me complaining about something most people would find awesome lol.
my zap and the heating element rattles and moves when i shake the unit. it never did this before when cold or hot. i remember reading somewhere about a fix for this but i don't remember what it was.
will it go back to being firm in there when its heated up again or do i need to do something to help it out?
my zap and the heating element rattles and moves when i shake the unit. it never did this before when cold or hot. i remember reading somewhere about a fix for this but i don't remember what it was.
will it go back to being firm in there when its heated up again or do i need to do something to help it out?
lwien
Well-Known Member
gettin lifted said:
It's been my experience that it will firm up again when heated. You can use a flat head screwdriver that you tap with a hammer on top of the ring that sits on top of the heat exchanger to reset the ring but heating it up again usually does the trick for me. What you don't want to do is to leave it loose banging around in there for too long 'cause that can cause even more damage. Another ring on top of the original is another way to rectify this problem.