Arizer Solo

Buzzbomb Almighty

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Think getting a pinnacle is a good idea? This is the D020-9 from Sunshine Store and it seems like a good companion piece but that would mean either buying a 14mm gong or using an adapter all the time. :\ no end to it
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OF

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Took off the o-ring...... think I like the air flow much better.

We've discussed this several times. Yes, air normally enters through the gap the ring sits in. If you're sipping it's usually no big deal at all. It can be a problem for those on the eternal quest for bigger clouds. This is how I modify the rings to eliminate this restriction:


Clamping the ring and then 'shaving' off the bump that sticks out with a razor blade gives gaps for the air to go through yet still grips the stem. The last couple I've done I put notches in the 'bottom' surface. The air still gets in just fine (over the top of the oven) but the ID of the ring remains complete so the grip on the stem doesn't change.

OF
 

HomeFree

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I never put an o-ring in mine. I have one somewhere, but never wanted to have the bottom start having stress cracks and it worked fine without one - but I may have got lucky with near perfect fitting stems. I may give mine to a friend, since he already took the damn thing apart and was asking about something to stop the stem from swiveling (it doesn't swivel all that much at all). I would give him my Ed's stem but it was costly and I want to learn to master it.

edit: that is a good idea OF. I forgot about that.
 

Alegre

Pobre payaso
We've discussed this several times. Yes, air normally enters through the gap the ring sits in. If you're sipping it's usually no big deal at all. It can be a problem for those on the eternal quest for bigger clouds. This is how I modify the rings to eliminate this restriction:


Clamping the ring and then 'shaving' off the bump that sticks out with a razor blade gives gaps for the air to go through yet still grips the stem. The last couple I've done I put notches in the 'bottom' surface. The air still gets in just fine (over the top of the oven) but the ID of the ring remains complete so the grip on the stem doesn't change.
OF


Aha! Very interesting.....I will try that tomorrow, thanks!
 

CarolKing

Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur
Think getting a pinnacle is a good idea? This is the D020-9 from Sunshine Store and it seems like a good companion piece but that would mean either buying a 14mm gong or using an adapter all the time. :\ no end to it
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Were you talking about a Pinnacle Pro vaporizer along with that water tool? I may have misunderstood. I would stay away from the Pinnacle Pro vaporizer. If you need any info PM me.
 

lookhigh

FC member
I don't think you can still get the pinnacle pro from reputable dealers. Maybe old stock on eBay and the likes, best avoided.
The pinnacle tube is nice but there are so many nicer and cheaper alternatives.
 
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Mr.Sifter

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I bought a used SOLO which should be one year old.
The battery is dieing leaving me only 2-3 12min sessions at level 5 or 6.

Do you think i can file a warranty claim to arizer?


Is there any chance to be sure how old a used 2nd hand unit really is and wether it is capable of pass through charging without having it on hand?


A used SOLO here in europe cand be had for about 80EUR = 90$

A new battery pack for the solo is 35€ = 40$

A used solo with a new battery (snd sooner or later you will need one) costs 130€.

For this price one can by a used arizer air which is 120-140€. (145$)

Is it still smart to invest in a solo?
 
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CarolKing

Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur
The Solo is a smart investment IMO. I have bought 3, one I gave to my brother its 2 years old and still going strong. I have one that is 3 years old with a battery that has about an hour of use between charges. My other 2 year old Solo has a battery that's a little over an hour of use.

I'm always suggesting the Solo when around others that use cannabis and smoke. I go to a farmers medical cannabis market and have brought a few vaporizers to show to a few of the farmers and customers.

Do what fits your budget. There are a lot of portables out there some good some not so much. It's a gamble when buying anything used.

A little over two years ago Arizer revised the Solo where now it can be used and charged at the same time. The older ones - pre revision Solos can't be used and charged at the same time. @Mr.Sifter that might narrow it down a little for you.
 
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Buzzbomb Almighty

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Were you talking about a Pinnacle Pro vaporizer along with that water tool? I may have misunderstood. I would stay away from the Pinnacle Pro vaporizer. If you need any info PM me.

Nooo a Pinnacle portable water tool pictured on the computer screen in the picture. I use an 18mm gong with my bubbler but the Pinnacle takes a 14mm. Think I'd have to get a new gong or will a shorty air stem w/tip work good enough? The med-short straight stems I have weren't really that great with the bubbler even using teflon tape to help seal, the short air stem w/tip was better, but the gong works best.
Edit: I'll try asking a different way. What have people's experiences been like using the shorty air stem w/tip between an Arizer Solo and a Pinnacle water tool? Should I go to the expense of ordering a 14mm gong at the same time to go with the Pinnacle even though it costs more than the water tool itself, or is the Pinnacle even worth the trouble?
 
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Buzzbomb Almighty,

just_the_flu

they say im crazy but i have a good time
... gifted one of my solo's to a life long friend...
i think we may have a converter!
this would be his first and only vape. he's used a couple of mine at my house before.
so far he says he likes it... "it's different" he says.
so far from the 4 or 5 days he's had it he told me he's only used his bong a couple times- for "old time sake"


... for me, i might end up with a silver solo after all!
 

Mr.Sifter

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A little over two years ago Arizer revised the Solo where now it can be used and charged at the same time. The older ones - pre revision Solos can't be used and charged at the same time. @Mr.Sifter that might narrow it down a little for you.


Is there a way to identify one of those "new" arizer solos?
How does an old unit behave when it is plugged in?
Does it refuse to heat up?

Any chance the serial number might help.


I have been very picky when it comes to vaping.
Small price meant small quality for me.
But the solo and a d020 bubbler might be all i need.
A second ine would be nice.


I have a mighty waiting in the mail for me.
And i begin to have buyers remorse. Got it "cheap" in mighty worlds.
240$ including gong and hydrotube.

I want to try it but in the ither hand i want to kerp it simple and stupid and not so device complicated.

A bigger vape investments means this expensive machine wants to be used. But i want to be independant.
Omg, when the mighty brakes.

Sry for my english
 
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unsorted

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Nooo a Pinnacle portable water tool pictured on the computer screen in the picture. I use an 18mm gong with my bubbler but the Pinnacle takes a 14mm. Think I'd have to get a new gong or will a shorty air stem w/tip work good enough? The med-short straight stems I have weren't really that great with the bubbler even using teflon tape to help seal, the short air stem w/tip was better, but the gong works best.

Arizer should really provide an additional screw-on tip for the Air stems with the tiparillo tip. Something like this:

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The big end of the Air tip is already the perfect diameter for a 14mm gong. We just need the taper to be correct so that it doesn't wobble. No reason it couldn't be made both ways. JMO
 

OF

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Is there a way to identify one of those "new" arizer solos?

Any chance the serial number might help.

Yes, stated above. If it will charge (light flashing) and heat (different light flashing) at the same time it's 'new version'.

An old style will not 'turn on' if charging and if running (heating) and you plug the CHARGER in the unit beeps, stops heating automatically, and goes into charging mode. Old style, when you plug in the PA, could continue to heat (but not charge) that way.

No, serial numbers are not useful 'clue' here. The maker has said so and we have 'seen' examples new and old styles with 'the same S/N range'. The definitive answer comes from 'can I charge and heat at the same time?'.

But there's another clue here, as CK said the change over is over two years back, no way a one YO unit can be old version? A year is a very short time to kill a battery (which is why they can warranty them?). IMO this means abuse. Probably 'left plugged in' (and therefore 100% charged '24/7'). Normally you should get at lease 300 'cycles' recharging to the top when you discharged it. That's what, 8 sessions a day, every day, for that year?

Or you could kill it in short order using 'use while charging' if you did as some guys do (take the dead unit out of the drawer, run a session and put it back without ever reallly recharging). Since this is not really a 'passthrough' or 'Power Adapter' mode (it's just a charger that tries to recharge the battery between heating cycles), you can 'hammer' the weak battery into an early grave. This got so bad with ESV that the maker took the 'use while charging' feature out again. Use it or charge it, but never the same if you love your battery is my advice.

OF
 

OF

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That is Interesting.
The solo batterY can only handle 300 charges?

That seems very low.

NO! That's not what I said. Even though I can't spell right sometimes I said "Normally you should get at lease 300 'cycles' recharging to the top when you discharged it." At least, it's common to get more. Please keep it in context, I was saying 'it's strange someone could wear one out in a year of normal use'. That is the point?

Threat it better, it lasts longer. We've been through this a LOT here. How long does a laptop or cell phone ( same type of batter last? "It depends". But you should not have one die in a year?

Check out this stuff:
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries

Lots effects cycle life. Notice the stuff around table 4 on how reducing the 'full charge' level 10% doubles the cycle life? From 300 to 600 say? That's a serious advantage IMO. It led to the development of my charge control 'Gadget' to automatically stop the charge early:
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The charger plugs in upper left, when the button (LR) is pressed the transistor (UR) turns on allowing charging until the processor (LL) senses the change in the charge current profile (as it gets near full charged) and stops the charge before the Solo does, beeping the beeper between the processor and switch. It also cuts about 20 minutes off every recharge. What was one hour is now 40 minutes......and twice or more cycles.

I sent out some prototypes and Beta units (like above) to Members, some of which 'self identified' some not. A week or two back Ataxian posted a photo of the early unit he's still using in this thread.

BTW, since the idea is based on the battery type, not the model of vape, the idea of dropping charge when the charge current tapers off means it can work other places. For instance here the lower board reduces the 12VDC to the 9VDC needed for Ascent and the big Flower Mates (fortunately they use the same connector/cable):
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This one uses a prototype "Gadget" board, it was from before the first Beta boards were ordered. I 'recycled it'.

A similar version does the USB port charging vapes like Air, the smaller FMs Summit, ESV, all these 'e-cig modes' I've got spread around with my current Divine Tribe experiments (great product, IMO, if you're in the market......), and a bunch of others I can't call to mind right now. Basically anything with a Li-ion that can recharge by USB port (including battery chargers....) is a candidate. There have been a couple of 'wild cases' that do weird stuff like stop charging and check that caused some software changes ('go back and check a few times before calling it a day') to pass over these momentary changes but the current program seems to 'take all comers' with the current scheme of '3 retests in a row spaced one second apart'.

Anyway, sorry to ramble, but the idea is you should expect at least 300 cycles (say 2400 sessions) minimum, kind of hard to do in only a year for most guys. Many of us have many more than that, either by proper battery discipline by habit or Gadget. How sure are you it's that old? Remember the S/N is no use, and if you had a receipt it would be known. Keep them cool, avoid 100% charges and don't deep discharge (any habitual with some users) and they last a very long time. Like the breaks or clutch in your car?

If you can't get more details, given your poor access to resources like our own CentiZen, I'd pass, and I seldom suggest that with Solo.

OF
 

poonman

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Any chance the serial number might help.

Yes it may , If the Solo was originally purchased from a
reputable authorized vendor . The transaction should have been
forwarded to Arizer to notify ' which ' unit was bought .

No two serial ID # are Exactly the same . Each Solo
has it's own serial # . Contact Arizer and maybe they can provide
you the info you need , like date of purchase .

I think this was suggested to you earlier ...
see below .


I am sorry to hear you have experienced an issue with one of our products. I will assist you with some troubleshooting and then I can determine the best way for you to resolve this issue quickly. Please provide me with the following information:

  • the serial number on the bottom of your unit
  • a detailed description of what happens when you try to charge the Solo unit
  • a detailed description of what happens when you try to use the Solo unit
Once I receive this information I can advise you further.

Best Regards,
Kevin
Arizer Tech
Service@arizer.com
 

ataxian

PALE BLUE DOT
Yes it may , If the Solo was originally purchased from a
reputable authorized vendor . The transaction should have been
forwarded to Arizer to notify ' which ' unit was bought .

No two serial ID # are Exactly the same . Each Solo
has it's own serial # . Contact Arizer and maybe they can provide
you the info you need , like date of purchase .

I think this was suggested to you earlier ...
see below .


I am sorry to hear you have experienced an issue with one of our products. I will assist you with some troubleshooting and then I can determine the best way for you to resolve this issue quickly. Please provide me with the following information:

  • the serial number on the bottom of your unit
  • a detailed description of what happens when you try to charge the Solo unit
  • a detailed description of what happens when you try to use the Solo unit
Once I receive this information I can advise you further.

Best Regards,
Kevin
Arizer Tech
Service@arizer.com
Sad the vaporizer business!
I have one stock 14mm GonG left and a stock bent stem.
Why don't they make a unbreakable GonG and STEM?
Now I have to go to a machine shop and make some accessories!

2016? GLASS?
 

Buzzbomb Almighty

Well-Known Member
I ordered the Pinnacle water tool from Sunshinestore without knowing how an air stem will work, thinking if an air stem was almost good, but unstable on a D020 it should be better with the lighter and smaller volume Pinnacle (because the solo is on the bottom in this combination). If anyone has experience with this combination and found fault with it please let me know because i can probably get a 14mm gong from England before my water tool gets here. After a little deliberation I decided to order another D020 as well, (standard cheaper version this time) so I wouldn't have to carry one back and forth to the summer place.
@unsorted, I wish there were tips like that available, looks like a good idea.
@Mr.Sifter There is a conversation on here some pages back about wiring battery packs, If you know any computer techs they may be able to help you since the cells are the same ones in standard laptop batteries.
 
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ataxian

PALE BLUE DOT
I'm in LOVE with my new stem tip!

Thank you so much ataxian!! I owe you one.... or two!

Happy Happy!

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That is "CIVILIZED" 20 minutes until 420?
Hey wait I'm so medicated already!

OK you inspired me?

420 I will respect!
My SOLO is BLACK!
My next one will be SILVER!
The SOLO is all you need around the garden!
Or wherever your spot is?

Don't feel guilty about VAPING!
It's safer than SODA?
Bars are legal?
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In HAWAII this is what we rode in the 70's.
I made this board before I got ill!
 
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zeebudz

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Just wanted to chime in: I purchased a Solo back in November 2011. It's been getting moderate use for 4-1/2 years and is still going strong. Battery life isn't what it used to be, but neither am I. Certainly acceptable enough that I don't feel the need to replace them. Silver finish looks as good as new. A lot of bang for the buck (cost me $160 on Amazon, probably not an "authorized seller"). It has really been an outstanding value over the years.
 

ataxian

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Just wanted to chime in: I purchased a Solo back in November 2011. It's been getting moderate use for 4-1/2 years and is still going strong. Battery life isn't what it used to be, but neither am I. Certainly acceptable enough that I don't feel the need to replace them. Silver finish looks as good as new. A lot of bang for the buck (cost me $160 on Amazon, probably not an "authorized seller"). It has really been an outstanding value over the years.
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Their so basic and functional!

@poonman are you the guy that burned me a few years back?
Never buy a SOLO on line. (amazon or ebay)
randy at puff it up or planet vapes might be a safer bet!
 
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