Arizer Solo

[steiner666]

Been having some odd solo LED behavior lately...

(some of my fav multicultural vape tunes, for your listening pleasure)

not a big deal, and still totally functional, just weird, especially towards end of video when I turn temp down.

Anyone else see this before?

 

[OF]

That adapter tip is in stock at my local RS, though, so at least I could get it going today. Is something like this what I would want to pair with?

http://www.radioshack.com/product/i...ce=CAT&znt_medium=RSCOM&znt_content=CT2032151

No. That's a simple line cord (and way too big). You need 12 VDC not 120 VAC. The local guy can help here, once you tell him you need "12 Volts and one Amp". This supply (with the correct adapter) should do yo fine:
http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3875403&filterName=Category#stuff-you-want

I know that one about finding lost gear by reordering. Over the years I've even experienced ordering replacements and putting the extra into stock......right next to the lost ones.....

Damn Janitors........

I just received my arizer solo, and it's charging as I type this. I'm getting really anxious to use it.

Cool. I hope you can find the strength/courage to overcharge it the first time (only). Doing so can extend battery life.

Regards, enjoy your Solo......

OF

 

[supercoolsteve]

No. That's a simple line cord (and way too big). You need 12 VDC not 120 VAC. The local guy can help here, once you tell him you need "12 Volts and one Amp". This supply (with the correct adapter) should do yo fine:
http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3875403&filterName=Category#stuff-you-want

I know that one about finding lost gear by reordering. Over the years I've even experienced ordering replacements and putting the extra into stock......right next to the lost ones.....

Damn Janitors........



Cool. I hope you can find the strength/courage to overcharge it the first time (only). Doing so can extend battery life.

Regards, enjoy your Solo......

OF

It's been charging since about 12pm est. Gonna give it about another hour before I use it.

 

[Boondocksaints]

Total Newb question here: (1,000 + pages in this thread is confusing)

I just bought this thing after much research... and loving it

I'm a bit confused with where to put the screens? I put one of the flat screens inside the stem that Puffit sent me complimentary.

Do I need a screen in the heating chamber as well to not fall through the holes?

And what is this about domed SS screens? Where do I put that?

And one more question: How much do I have to charge on the initial charge? Do I fully charge and discharge?

 

[OF]

Gentle Friends,

An update on my 'early cutoff charger controller thingie' project. It's going well I think, this is what the current prototypes are looking (more or less) like:

The Solo charger plugs in lower right. The Solo plugs into the cable leaving the terminal strip next to it. Then comes the transistor that does the switching with the adjustment screw upper left. The switch is opposite the input connector and the processor above that connector. The next version of PCBs will lay the transistor over which will make the screw the highest point with the switch shaft still long enough to poke through the top cover of a plastic box. Along the lines of this prototype:

I've got several out in Beta test right now, with good reports and suggestions coming back. I expect at least one more round of Beta testing to incorporate those suggestions (at least some of them....).

Aside from the hoped for longer battery life, another feature is finding favor: Faster recharge times. Since the 'slow part' of the charge curve (reduced current, therefore slower recharge) is what's cut off, depending on where you decide to recharge it takes about 1/2 to 2/3 the normal time. A very noticeable improvement.

Fun stuff. FWIW, I'm now tinkering around with the same general idea for Ascent.

Thanks for your kind attention.

OF

 

[Gray Area]

Total Newb question here: (1,000 + pages in this thread is confusing)

I just bought this thing after much research... and loving it

I'm a bit confused with where to put the screens? I put one of the flat screens inside the stem that Puffit sent me complimentary.

Do I need a screen in the heating chamber as well to not fall through the holes?

And what is this about domed SS screens? Where do I put that?

And one more question: How much do I have to charge on the initial charge? Do I fully charge and discharge?

Flat screen in the stem is fine, you don't need one in the oven...

The domed screen takes the place of the one you have, just it reduces the load size some (depending on how domed) and allows a more open airflow into the four holes, like this:

http://vaporpedia.com/w/images/e/e2/Solo_Domed_Screen.jpg

As for charging, charge fully first time only until the green light stops blinking, then leave it a bit longer (iirc 4 hrs was mentioned).
After that if you can charge it until all 7 led's are solid, but stop before the green light does, it'll help prolong your battery life...

Enjoy

 

[Boondocksaints]

Thanks for the info! This forum is super helpful.

 

[hd_rider]

I'm a bit confused with where to put the screens? Do I need a screen in the heating chamber as well to not fall through the holes?

Some folks like to put screens in the base of the heating chamber inside the Solo, the idea being to prevent your medicine from contacting the oven, resulting in vaporization via conduction (instead of convection, which is what we want). But if you don't overload the stem, and keep the level of your medicine below the level of the stem bowl, you will be fine and won't need the additional screen.

And what is this about domed SS screens? Where do I put that?

If you're using the stock Solo stems, you'll note that there are four holes at the bottom of the bowl acting as a glass "screen." Putting a domed screen in the bottom of the stem serves two purposes. First, it reduces the capacity of the stem so you don't have to use so much medicine in one sitting. Second, a domed screen sits above the glass screen without making contact, allowing good airflow.

Check out my method for making my own domed screens for use in the stems: Clicky

 

[Boondocksaints]

Some folks like to put screens in the base of the heating chamber inside the Solo, the idea being to prevent your medicine from contacting the oven, resulting in vaporization via conduction (instead of convection, which is what we want). But if you don't overload the stem, and keep the level of your medicine below the level of the stem bowl, you will be fine and won't need the additional screen.



If you're using the stock Solo stems, you'll note that there are four holes at the bottom of the bowl acting as a glass "screen." Putting a domed screen in the bottom of the stem serves two purposes. First, it reduces the capacity of the stem so you don't have to use so much medicine in one sitting. Second, a domed screen sits above the glass screen without making contact, allowing good airflow.

Check out my method for making my own domed screens for use in the stems: Clicky

Awesome! Thanks.

 

[OF]

Thanks for the info! This forum is super helpful.

Ain't that the truth?

GA is spot on, and fast with the good advice.....again. I know it's hard to resist, but I think there's a real advantage to going 'overnight' on the first charge (at least 4 hours after the charge light goes solid). You get the batteries (hopefully) never having been fully charged. That first cycle determines where 'the top' of the charge will be, it will set the usable capacity of the battery and will only degrade from there on. They will never again be as strong as that initial charge.

Ideally the two batteries are balanced, but that can't be exact of course. The Solo uses the total voltage from the two, the weaker one will automatically get worked harder and therefore degrade faster. Every cycle will make the weaker one weaker faster than the stronger one until it can only do a few sessions.

Cutting the routine charges off earlier is not intuitive but does very much increase battery lifetime. Cutting 10% off the charge doubles the number of times you can recharge before replacement. Double. Cut another 10% (20% total, say one session) again doubles it. From say 300 cycles to 1200? Worth considering, unless you're looking forward to buying another battery......

Check out the stuff here around Table 4:
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries

BTW, this (shutting down 'early') is what's behind the gadget I posted photos of a few posts up. I'm trying to automate that part.......

OF

 

[Pappy]

Cool. I hope you can find the strength/courage to overcharge it the first time (only). Doing so can extend battery life.

Regards, enjoy your Solo......

OF

I try following your battery extension regimen but wind up charging overnight and getting a full charge by morning.

 

[Boondocksaints]

Ain't that the truth?

GA is spot on, and fast with the good advice.....again. I know it's hard to resist, but I think there's a real advantage to going 'overnight' on the first charge (at least 4 hours after the charge light goes solid). You get the batteries (hopefully) never having been fully charged. That first cycle determines where 'the top' of the charge will be, it will set the usable capacity of the battery and will only degrade from there on. They will never again be as strong as that initial charge.

Ideally the two batteries are balanced, but that can't be exact of course. The Solo uses the total voltage from the two, the weaker one will automatically get worked harder and therefore degrade faster. Every cycle will make the weaker one weaker faster than the stronger one until it can only do a few sessions.

Cutting the routine charges off earlier is not intuitive but does very much increase battery lifetime. Cutting 10% off the charge doubles the number of times you can recharge before replacement. Double. Cut another 10% (20% total, say one session) again doubles it. From say 300 cycles to 1200? Worth considering, unless you're looking forward to buying another battery......

Check out the stuff here around Table 4:
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries

BTW, this (shutting down 'early') is what's behind the gadget I posted photos of a few posts up. I'm trying to automate that part.......

OF

According to my usage, I'm gonna have one problem with this.

I only smoke on the weekends. The rest of the week, I have to keep charging it even if I'm not using?

 

[al bundy]

^^^^^^^
Not at all just charge it when it the level is at 1.
With the one light left you can even vape a stem if you'd like then charge it.

 

[OF]

I try following your battery extension regimen but wind up charging overnight and getting a full charge by morning.

Sorry to not be clear enough. The overnight charge is a 'first charge only' thing. After the first discharge from full charge it no longer matters. After that first charge you should not constantly recharge. In fact, it's not good for them to sit idle above about 70% charge, so on average you want to stay under that.

I recommend using it normally. Check the battery level each start up (to see what's left) and keep enjoying it until there are no 'battery lights' flashed at all. You still have plenty of reserve for one more session (but don't cheat and go for a second one, that gets onto thin ice) then recharge. In battery terms that's a "cycle". Charge through discharge back to charge. You should get about 300 such cycles letting it cut off (at 100%). Stop it at step 7, but with the light still flashing, and you might make that 1000 cycles instead.

So looked at another way, avoid the charge light going solid, except the first time. That one time run it solid another 4 hours?

According to my usage, I'm gonna have one problem with this.

I only smoke on the weekends. The rest of the week, I have to keep charging it even if I'm not using?

Same problem as above? In your case you'll probably run all weekend 'on batteries' and charge once a week or so I bet. Again, the best possible schedule would leave the battery on say step 5 or below through the week, but even I think that's getting a tiny bit obsessive......maybe.

BTW, around here we vape, don't smoke (any more). Note the Forum name. Some of these guys can get mighty huffy if you accuse them of smoking......

Regards to all. Sorry for the confusion. I hope it's a bit clearer now?

OF

 

[HappyTraveler]

Greetings fellow vapor lovers. it's been a long but short 9 months with this wonderful peice of technology called the arizer solo. I've put in alot of time with it as well, that's what arouses my question today. Do any of you that partake in "the green" not tend to develop a high tolerance? It sounds like a crazy question, I agree. When i combusted I definitely developed a high tolerance. This is not the case with vaporizing. Odd or no?

 

[Ano]

Check the battery level each start up (to see what's left) and keep enjoying it until there are no 'battery lights' flashed at all. You still have plenty of reserve for one more session (but don't cheat and go for a second one, that gets onto thin ice) then recharge.

I always see you mention this as a fact, but I can't get that result with my Solo.

When my Solo is showing one light on start-up I can do a full session, but if I turn it back on after that, at the point where no light is showing up, if I try to do another session it will shutdown mid-session and the red charge light will start blinking.

Is my Solo (May 2014) the issue or is your comment for older models ?


Also on an unrelated note, while charging, I noticed a few times my Solo only showing the blinking green charge light with no other battery level lights.
This happens after some time spent on the charger, it always shows the battery level lights at the beginning of the charge.
Is this something I should be worry about ?
I usually just unplug the charger then plug it back in to get the lights back.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Probably not all that big a secret before, but now that you've gone and shot your mouth off (again) I guess it's no secret any more at all.........

All we've got left is this empty bag and a memory of the cat?

OF

We have a cat?!

Greetings fellow vapor lovers. it's been a long but short 9 months with this wonderful peice of technology called the arizer solo. I've put in alot of time with it as well, that's what arouses my question today. Do any of you that partake in "the green" not tend to develop a high tolerance? It sounds like a crazy question, I agree. When i combusted I definitely developed a high tolerance. This is not the case with vaporizing. Odd or no?

I feel like maybe you're vaping less and getting longer effects from it which translates to less sessions. Less sessions = lower tolerance. I don't know about you but I could run through a few grams in a day if I wanted to, though 2g has been giving me about 5 days of medication (weekends off now I guess lol) lately. I've vaped ounces through mine since Feb (I think?) and my tolerance has definitely gone up and down depending on how many times a day I'm vaping/how much per session. I wish my tolerance didn't go up and I could still get rocked off .1g. I don't get very high anymore but still get the medical benefits of it which is why I vape so much.

 

[Ansel]

Greetings fellow vapor lovers. it's been a long but short 9 months with this wonderful peice of technology called the arizer solo. I've put in alot of time with it as well, that's what arouses my question today. Do any of you that partake in "the green" not tend to develop a high tolerance? It sounds like a crazy question, I agree. When i combusted I definitely developed a high tolerance. This is not the case with vaporizing. Odd or no?

i wake and vape with my solo and then vape here and there all day. It's not until late evening that i have 1 joint with no tobacco. (i get my tobacco from snus) i never vape with a snus in!

edit: yes i do it this way otherwise vaping all the time just becomes too normal for me.

 

[RUDE BOY]

When my Solo is showing one light on start-up I can do a full session, but if I turn it back on after that, at the point where no light is showing up, if I try to do another session it will shutdown mid-session and the red charge light will start blinking.

This mirrors my experience, only tried it once. My solo is around the same age also.

 

[OF]

I always see you mention this as a fact, but I can't get that result with my Solo.

Is my Solo (May 2014) the issue or is your comment for older models ?

Actually I put that out as advice (not fact), a very big difference? IMO you should be able to do it. Of course I guess you could be using a lot of battery per session. How many sessions are you getting between 7 and 1?

Yes, it's the same on the new model, at least it was on the one I own. It's one of the things I got it for specifically to check (along with power usage).

Unfortunately you could be looking at a marginal battery pack going South. There are basically two types of undercharge protection. The Solo itself works on total battery voltage, IIRC the bottom light is something like 7.2 Volts. 7 is 8.0 and above and they're .1 Volt apart. It cuts off .4 or so below that (3.6 and 3.4 Volts per for cutoff). Plenty safe if it's balanced. But that same 6.8 Volt cutoff could be 3.8 and 3.0 Volts as well.....still OK but on the road to failure as the weak one gets weaker cycle after cycle. Soon it'll be 3.9 and 2.9 and so on. Again, you'll see fairly normal sessions per charge.

However, there's also a backup protection on the PCB inside the battery pack. It shuts down the battery (which of course stops the Solo) at something like 2.5 Volts on either cell. If this second safety is what's happening, the battery is on it's last legs.

So it could be battery, more than normal discharge per session or just bad advice on my part. Just because I measured and tested it and found it to work well is no guarantee it's good for all. Thus far you're the only one to report this problem, I suggest you no longer go for 'the hidden session' and keep an eye on your battery. Again, please, how many normal sessions are you getting per charge? When you do do 'open top, step 7 runs back to back do you get 8 before you run out of lights?

TIA

We have a cat?!

Not any more. Some blame fool let it out of the bag.........

We still got the bag, though.

OF

 

[ataxian]

. Man I wish the government over here in Fraggle Rock would legalise this wonderful plant. Oil,shatter ,concentrates dabs etc are just not available. Only time I get good solids is with my bubble bags. Street weed is variable. This thread and the other thread I follow make me wanna sell up and move over the pond. Anyway back on topic. I'm wanting to use my solo through water and wand a D020. But there seems to be many variations of it. I'm gonna use dhgate and the shop is sunshine store. What would be best for solo( and eNano) use? Any one able to post a link? My laptop broke and I'm usin an antiquated phone so I can't post any links. Sorry. And thank you in advance.

D022 first choice
D020 2nd choice
They both have a 18mm female fitting

I use them with the SOLO
D022 I use for the NANO
Either one works great and their pretty cheap!

 

[Lets_Vape]

Hey guys, I couldn't find any mentions of a battery pack for the Solo and I stumbled on an old battery pack yesterday which works brilliantly, I still need to test how many charges I can get out of it though.

This battery pack is branded Pineapple Juice 6800 as it was used for the Wifi Pineapple, they are however available on dx.com now for $22.75 (You will need an adapter for the DC plug, I got a bunch with the battery pack, not sure whether they are included here)
http://www.dx.com/p/portable-6800mah-emergency-rechargeable-battery-pack-eu-plug-135958#.U_CWNViRFUQ

 

[Ano]

Actually I put that out as advice (not fact), a very big difference?

Again, please, how many normal sessions are you getting per charge? When you do do 'open top, step 7 runs back to back do you get 8 before you run out of lights?

Yeah, sorry about the advice/fact part.

I don't have my Solo with me right now, I'll do the test in a day or two.

Also about the Solo not showing any light except the blinking green charge light while charging, is this anything I should be worry about ?

 

[Gray Area]

Also about the Solo not showing any light except the blinking green charge light while charging, is this anything I should be worry about ?

Dunno about the worry part, but it's not the way it normally charges... It should display the yellow LED's to the level that the battery is charged... eg, if mine gets to one light and I decide to charge it, when I plug it in it'll show that one light + the green flashing charge light. As the battery reaches level 2, 3 etc the yellow light will follow until level 7, the green flashing all the way.

 

[Ano]

Yes, it usually do that with mine too, but sometimes it stops showing the charge level after a few moments on the charger.

I posted about it there :

Also on an unrelated note, while charging, I noticed a few times my Solo only showing the blinking green charge light with no other battery level lights.
This happens after some time spent on the charger, it always shows the battery level lights at the beginning of the charge.
Is this something I should be worry about ?
I usually just unplug the charger then plug it back in to get the lights back.