Arizer Solo

[vape4life]

It's ALL there...everything. The problem is that any time someone new comes to the thread they ask the same questions even though there were already discussed. I know it can be a pain to go through the entire thread, but if you're really that interested, you will put in the time.

SS= stainless steel, and if you read all the posts you will feel VERY VERRRRRRRY informed about this product. I strongly encourage you to read the entire thread if you are planning to buy a solo. Even though i'm a pretty content solo owner, its recent issues and way of business has turned me off the company.

Thanks Vape4Life, your post is the opposite of why why I love this forum so much. I always thought the main dudes on here want their vape users to get the right information. Whether or not your response is prick-ish is a topic unto itself, I am simply hoping someone can chime in with an educated and brief anser to SOME of my questions. There is 93 pages here and I'm a little late to the party with the solo. I am trying my hardest to read through all of them and my post was just getting everything off the top of my head hoping someone had a quick answer. No big deal, thanks for your comment V4L...

I have read many posts about the solo and I can't find the exact one that explains what "ss" means. I can't recall seeing what the weight difference and feel of the ceramic versus the newer model. I don;t recall seeing a post about ebay cheap models versus authorized retailers...


D

 

[vaplexus]

From what I can see, the crucible is very thin and i would expect the same to be true for the SS model. even if its twice as thick, the heat increase noticed in a previous thread would not likely be because of the materials used. Rather its probably a tweak in the circuit design. however, these companies usually do a bunch of R&D and testing and then a massive run of boards on an automated line. and then that's that. i see no pots (no pun intended) to adjust the temp curve. so either its a fluke or they perhaps have re-programmed the temp curve in later models. maybe to compensate for the lower heat conductivity of SS. i am going to assume (correction?) that the non-SS model uses an aluminum crucible which has better heat conductivity and would likely be cheaper to manufacture. just guesses at this point.

Re the recent posts about questions and answers. frankly, and this is just my take, these long threads are arduous at best to get through. many people including myself do not have the time to sit and read through so many posts. i frankly don't like the way this forum is organized: i think for the individual products in this section (the vaporizers) they should be set up as separate sub-forums. then we can post smaller threads and it will be easier to search. i am fine with people asking questions after they have TRIED to find the answers in the forum like the previous poster did. i don't think they/he should be reprimanded for not going through so many pages of a poorly organized forum. finally, if someone does want to bitch at someone else about that, do it in PM not in the thread.

 

[ru_frothi]

Hey everyone,

I researched the FC forum extensively when purchasing my extreme Q last year and it was VERY helpful, so thank you for all your input to this site. I am truly loyal to FC for all my vaporizer questions and research. YOU ARE THE BEST.

I am now interested in the solo because I do like Arizer's customer service, warranties and quality products. Now, I say quality because I am happy with my Q and I expect the same with the solo. I have a few concerns and questions based on your feedback over the past few months.

1.) Some of you mention a ceramic solo compared to a different material, what is the difference? Is one of the materials an older model? When purchasing, how will I know if I'm getting the ceramic or not?

2.) I see some of you refer to your replacement solos as "SS", what does that mean?

3.) I notice the solo is available on vape sites for $250 and can be found on ebay/amazon for $150, In regards to the headaches, chipping and smells, have people who purchased these cheaper models notice a difference to ones who purchase through authorized retailers at $200+? Has anyone had a bad experience purchasing or replacing a vape at a cheaper price on sites like amazon or ebay?

4.) People refer to a 4 hole stem compared to a 2 hole, is this referring to a newer solo model?

5.) I plan on emailing Arizer to see if there is a Solo 2.0 coming out soon. If i'm gonna buy, I'd be willing to wait for the newer model. When I bought my extreme 4.0, the Q came out less than a month later. I emailed my retailer and they actually sympathized with me and worked out a deal to give me the Q at wholesale price if I can sell my extreme. Basically, I got to swap out for the Q and a friend bought my 4.0.

6.) Does anyone own a Q and a solo? If so, are they similar? Does the Q blow the solo out of the water in terms of taste, clouds and overall durability of the bud?

Thanks everyone!!!! I look forward to hearing your feedback. Sorry for the laundry list of questions!!!!!!

D

1. Current models are pretty much all ceramic. The new ones are SS (Stainless Steel). not really in the pipeline yet. too new. not a 2.0 but a bug fix.

2. see 1

3. arizer has now stated that they will honor warrantys regardless of where it was purchased. They ask to deal with your resller first otherwise you will be shipping your unit to canada for repair. I have not seen a report of anyone having issue with ebay or amazon but FC has a great special on the SS solo right now.

4. new SS models seem to have a 4 hole stem

5. thats not a question

6. I own both. They are for different purposes. THe solo stretches the herb farther IMO and the taste hasn't quite caught up to the EQ yet. I still have a little odor left.

 

[davebart]

Vapelexus - Thanks for the response. That is exactly my problem, although I am trying my hardest to read through each post, I simply don't have enough time in the day to get through it all. I agree with you that the sub forums would be great to pin-point specific areas of interest for each product. Maybe we'll see that one day. Your input on the ceramic vs SS is a very interesting and informative response, thanks!


Rufrothy - Thanks for hitting each of my questions and sorry for number 5, I must have gotten on a tangent there... I will make sure that where I buy, I get the SS model with the 4 hole. Good to hear the ebay/amazon cheaper priced models are not bogus products and warranties are honored. Makes me a lot more comfortable to purchase one from there.


Thanks again everyone for the answers to my questions. I will continue reading and chime back in when I have mine. I feel a purchase is on the horizon!!!

D

 

[vape4life]

I respectfully disagree that this is a "poorly organized forum", I like its simplicity and look, and think the mods do an amazing job. The problem is that these threads get to 100+ pages and become a nightmare to read because there is so much duplication of effort and information and the same questions over and over again. The EQ thread is another example of this. It just bugs me when people don't put the time in, and want all their questions answered and never contribute.

From what I can see, the crucible is very thin and i would expect the same to be true for the SS model. even if its twice as thick, the heat increase noticed in a previous thread would not likely be because of the materials used. Rather its probably a tweak in the circuit design. however, these companies usually do a bunch of R&D and testing and then a massive run of boards on an automated line. and then that's that. i see no pots (no pun intended) to adjust the temp curve. so either its a fluke or they perhaps have re-programmed the temp curve in later models. maybe to compensate for the lower heat conductivity of SS. i am going to assume (correction?) that the non-SS model uses an aluminum crucible which has better heat conductivity and would likely be cheaper to manufacture. just guesses at this point.

Re the recent posts about questions and answers. frankly, and this is just my take, these long threads are arduous at best to get through. many people including myself do not have the time to sit and read through so many posts. i frankly don't like the way this forum is organized: i think for the individual products in this section (the vaporizers) they should be set up as separate sub-forums. then we can post smaller threads and it will be easier to search. i am fine with people asking questions after they have TRIED to find the answers in the forum like the previous poster did. i don't think they/he should be reprimanded for not going through so many pages of a poorly organized forum. finally, if someone does want to bitch at someone else about that, do it in PM not in the thread.

 

[VapeNStone]

Thanks Vape4Life, your post is the opposite of why why I love this forum so much. I always thought the main dudes on here want their vape users to get the right information. Whether or not your response is prick-ish is a topic unto itself, I am simply hoping someone can chime in with an educated and brief anser to SOME of my questions. There is 93 pages here and I'm a little late to the party with the solo. I am trying my hardest to read through all of them and my post was just getting everything off the top of my head hoping someone had a quick answer. No big deal, thanks for your comment V4L...

I have read many posts about the solo and I can't find the exact one that explains what "ss" means. I can't recall seeing what the weight difference and feel of the ceramic versus the newer model. I don;t recall seeing a post about ebay cheap models versus authorized retailers...


D

lol. he answered ALL of your questions. He just didn't tell you the answer, just told you were to get your lazy up and look. lol

 

[VapeNStone]

From what I can see, the crucible is very thin and i would expect the same to be true for the SS model. even if its twice as thick, the heat increase noticed in a previous thread would not likely be because of the materials used. Rather its probably a tweak in the circuit design. however, these companies usually do a bunch of R&D and testing and then a massive run of boards on an automated line. and then that's that. i see no pots (no pun intended) to adjust the temp curve. so either its a fluke or they perhaps have re-programmed the temp curve in later models. maybe to compensate for the lower heat conductivity of SS. i am going to assume (correction?) that the non-SS model uses an aluminum crucible which has better heat conductivity and would likely be cheaper to manufacture. just guesses at this point.

Re the recent posts about questions and answers. frankly, and this is just my take, these long threads are arduous at best to get through. many people including myself do not have the time to sit and read through so many posts. i frankly don't like the way this forum is organized: i think for the individual products in this section (the vaporizers) they should be set up as separate sub-forums. then we can post smaller threads and it will be easier to search. i am fine with people asking questions after they have TRIED to find the answers in the forum like the previous poster did. i don't think they/he should be reprimanded for not going through so many pages of a poorly organized forum. finally, if someone does want to bitch at someone else about that, do it in PM not in the thread.

I didn't see anywhere that he "TRIED". It said that he did a shitton of research on his Extreme? Because it took for freaking ever to do that for the Extreme so he figured why not take the lazy route and just ask? Before searching the thread shit my lazy ass would have tried too lol. But alas people on the internet don't allow you to be lazy anymore lol. I had to read through 70+ pages when I got my solo. Then I bought and not even a few weeks later I hear about this new SS solo like WTF? lol

Oh and the other day when I was frisbee golfing I smelt this dreading smelly solo that everyone is talking about. I have actually smelt it before but I have some pretty stinky herbs and I just thought I was smelling that lol. Oh well, I emailed Kevin and we'll see what happens.

 

[King Lou]

94+ pages of info are a lot of pages to dredge through. I wish the OP would update with all the INFO we know to date so that going forward we would could just discuss rather than rehash. Or even update with links to informational posts in the thread. There has been a lot of ground covered to date!

 

[darkrom]

94+ pages of info are a lot of pages to dredge through. I wish the OP would update with all the INFO we know to date so that going forward we would could just discuss rather than rehash. Or even update with links to informational posts in the thread. There has been a lot of ground covered to date!

Lots of info is inconsistent. Manufacturer has provided us with less info than member vaplexus's excellent tear down. How many holes are in the stems 2-4 right now. Whats the bowl? Ceramic or SS. Does it smell? For some but not others, same with taste and headaches. What is each piece made of? Who knows they sure won't get in here.

I want full disclosure on a vape and I don't think that is unreasonable. If it is used to put chemicals into my body I want to have full knowledge over which ones are being created by the vape vs the organic material...and I'm not talking about organic ceramic either!

 

[max]

94+ pages of info are a lot of pages to dredge through. I wish the OP would update with all the INFO we know to date so that going forward we would could just discuss rather than rehash. Or even update with links to informational posts in the thread. There has been a lot of ground covered to date!

The OP is a reseller. Not only does he have to take care of his business, probably putting in a lot more hours per week than most of us, but we'd rather not have resellers involved in these threads very much, since it gets into self serving posting to some degree, and conflicts with our rules.

What's interesting is that the same people who complain about the long threads are often the ones most responsible for them being long, since they ask the questions that have been previously answered. We also have an answer to your suggestion of updating "all the INFO we know to date". It's here- Vaporpedia The fact that it's not being used much says that people would rather complain about long threads than pull the info together themselves. This forum isn't a service for which you pay $ and expect to have your needs met. We who run it do it in our spare time, for free. The forum is a collection of individuals. Whether the info here is well organized and meaty, or full of fatty chat and rehashed info, is up to you, the members.

And now, back to the Solo.

 

[darkrom]

Poor vaporpedia gets NO love. I'll do an entry for the underdog soon. Just noticed it doesn't even have one :/

 

[pakalolo]

Thanks, max. I've just updated the Solo Vaporpedia entry in fact. Among other things, I added a section covering the various controversies. If anyone thinks the entry is wrong or misleading, I invite you to get a Vaporpedia login (email vtac) and rectify things. You can also tell me, but I'd like to see more people actually helping.


mod note:

 

[ru_frothi]

Thanks, max. I've just updated the Solo Vaporpedia entry in fact. Among other things, I added a section covering the various controversies. If anyone thinks the entry is wrong or misleading, I invite you to get a Vaporpedia login (email vtac) and rectify things. You can also tell me, but I'd like to see more people actually helping.

Good Stuff ....

I've been meaning to get an account to add some info on the solo and omicron. thanks for leading the way.

 

[King Lou]

Thanks, max. I've just updated the Solo Vaporpedia entry in fact. Among other things, I added a section covering the various controversies. If anyone thinks the entry is wrong or misleading, I invite you to get a Vaporpedia login (email vtac) and rectify things. You can also tell me, but I'd like to see more people actually helping.

Thank you kindly! Thats what I was talking about. I knew the OP was a reseller but I was hoping he might step back in to update. Cool beans!

 

[Stu]

Thanks, max. I've just updated the Solo Vaporpedia entry in fact. Among other things, I added a section covering the various controversies. If anyone thinks the entry is wrong or misleading, I invite you to get a Vaporpedia login (email vtac) and rectify things. You can also tell me, but I'd like to see more people actually helping.

Good job, Pak. Nicely done.

Is there a way to put a link to the Solo VP entry from the main page under "model specific articles"?

 

[vaplexus]

To answer the question about why there was AVB in my solo - unsure. this was before i did that mod with the ring. so i have no idea how AVB could have gotten into it, but it did. no big deal. just an observation.

 

[pakalolo]

Thanks, max. I've just updated the Solo Vaporpedia entry in fact. Among other things, I added a section covering the various controversies. If anyone thinks the entry is wrong or misleading, I invite you to get a Vaporpedia login (email vtac) and rectify things. You can also tell me, but I'd like to see more people actually helping.

Good job, Pak. Nicely done.

Is there a way to put a link to the Solo VP entry from the main page under "model specific articles"?

Thanks Stu. My answer would be off-topic for here. There's a thread about Vaporpedia where I'll respond, if anyone wants to discuss this further.

 

[ronix]

Hey, new poster, been lurking for a while.
I ordered a solo yesterday, should be here tomorrow, i can't wait

Any quick tips on unboxing? Should I let it charge first?
Should I go through some "burn off" cycles like i've read many of you have done?
And also, my friend has an HA which is extremely efficient. Any users here who have both that give me a quick efficiency estimate for both?

Thanks guys, I look forward to joining the arizer family

 

[vaplexus]

Hey, new poster, been lurking for a while.
I ordered a solo yesterday, should be here tomorrow, i can't wait

Any quick tips on unboxing? Should I let it charge first?
Should I go through some "burn off" cycles like i've read many of you have done?
And also, my friend has an HA which is extremely efficient. Any users here who have both that give me a quick efficiency estimate for both?

Thanks guys, I look forward to joining the arizer family

Hi there. you can use it with whatever charge is in it if you want, or charge it to full, depending on if you can wait and want longer use out of it. you should be able to do a session with the initial charge though.

First thing to do it turn it on and set it to 7. wait for it to reach 7 and then smell it. if the smell is too strong for you, then don't use it. run a cycles through it until the smell gets to where you are ok. some people are more sensitive than others. i used it right away and the smell was a little in the taste. so then i decided to run it for about 3 cycles on full. that made it better. it gets less and less until there is no smell but that can takes weeks.

I have both HA and Solo (and MFLB). In terms of which extracts more goodness, i think they are pretty equal. the HA is very efficient and so is the solo. they have very similar crucible and air path designs ultimately. for whip use, i am finding the solo to be a faster extractor than the HA in that I can larger clouds but for less time than the HA. net effect seems to be the same.

 

[OhTheAgony]

........maybe to compensate for the lower heat conductivity of SS. i am going to assume (correction?) that the non-SS model uses an aluminum crucible which has better heat conductivity and would likely be cheaper to manufacture. just guesses at this point.

In the letter where he shares his motivation to coat the bowl the Arizer guy (I keep forgetting his name, is it Steve?) stated it is the same SS bowl, the new one is just not coated.

 

[vape4life]

Anyone with a SS and ceramic solo, have you tried to compare the warm up times? Just wondering if there really was a change to the circuitry too or if mine is a fluke. Want to hear from you guys before I email arizer to inquire.

 

[Lefthook]

Hey Vape4life

I have both and the to me the heat up time on my old ceramic is a little quicker but nothing to really take note off, i would say i can see a difference in temp holding as the ceramic tends to keeps the heat longer also but that could be due to the increased airflow in the SS version. Hope this helps

 

[max]

Just wondering if there really was a change to the circuitry too or if mine is a fluke.

If the flaking problem was solved by simply leaving off the ceramic coating, which seems to be the case, it's extremely unlikely that any other changes were made. OTOH, it's possible that some change was made, at some point, to speed up the heating process, and your new unit got the upgrade. A change like this wouldn't be likely to be advertised by Arizer, since new buyers wouldn't know the difference, and those who own an older model wouldn't be happy to hear about an improvement they don't have. You could certainly email them and ask about it.

 

[Hippie Dickie]

@vape4life -- the state of battery charge can affect how quickly the units heat up. And newer batteries will be somewhat more charge-able -- depending on number of charge cycles on your older unit.

 

[King Lou]

I have seen mention of replacement stems and the new 3 or 4 hole stems but in scanning back over the past ten pages and looked at the SOLO vaporpedia entry but I can't seem to find where people are getting them. I did a search but the result was basically this whole thread.

I haven't had to send my Solo back or had any of the other issues but I would like to have an easier draw. I did a search for SOLO Stem and the results don't say if they are the new 4 hole stems or someone selling older stems. Any recommended vendors?

Thank you in advance.