Arizer Solo

monkeyrider

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Thanks everyone - great info!

Hmm, hadn't heard of EpicVape E-Nano before cause I was in the Portables section so much.

I don't mind being plugged in as that's how I'm using my No2. I'm also interested in being able to vape concentrates quickly/mess free, etc... so I'm interested in this vape now too. Will read the Nano thread. The videos showing concentrate on cotton look sweet, and not having to crush every bud into mulch would be cool too. (hitting a nug instead of grind)

I like this ... "Because the bowl on the Nano is so small, and the unit is so effective at extracting vapor, and the extraction is almost instant (compared to a Solo anyway), it is relative easy to vape with little to no smell other than that of the weed itself and whatever you exhale."

Will look into Solo more as well. I know that the in its mature state (M107) it has a lot of bugs worked out.

Thx!
 

damnlukeman

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  1. Arizer Solo is UNBELIEVABLE!!!
  2. Just picked one up and the thing is just as amazing as the reviews, the draw resistance is there but not as bad as people say, I didn't pack it super tight either so that might have helped.

    I litterally put a one hitter size amount of herb in so just a pinch and it lasted for 15 minutes of straight smoking lol a good 20-25 pulls, started at 5 temp and climbed to 7 and the smoked just never stopped coming.

    Forget the big bulky ones, for 200 bux you can't beat this, nice and small like a red bull can. super easy to use and clean.

    Happy Vaping
 

CarolKing

Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur
  1. Arizer Solo is UNBELIEVABLE!!!
  2. Just picked one up and the thing is just as amazing as the reviews, the draw resistance is there but not as bad as people say, I didn't pack it super tight either so that might have helped.

    I litterally put a one hitter size amount of herb in so just a pinch and it lasted for 15 minutes of straight smoking lol a good 20-25 pulls, started at 5 temp and climbed to 7 and the smoked just never stopped coming.

    Forget the big bulky ones, for 200 bux you can't beat this, nice and small like a red bull can. super easy to use and clean.

    Happy Vaping
Did you get the newest model Solo, the one that you can use while plugged in?

I like how the Solo is easy on the herb. A little lasts a long time. Good investment.
 
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malelz

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When my new Solo arrives, I know it's recommended to fully charge it and do a burn off. How long do you burn it for? And I'm assuming at level 7? Is there anything else I should do before I use it?
 
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damnlukeman

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When my new Solo arrives, I know it's recommended to fully charge it and do a burn off. How long do you burn it for? And I'm assuming at level 7? Is there anything else I should do before I use it?

I read the instructions and it didn't say anything so i just used it right away lol ooops

I got it from a retail store so i assume its the newest model but i dont think it can be used while charging, in the instructions is says there is an adaptor sold separately, i checked their website and its 50 bux and doesn't actually charge just bypasses the battery so kinda pricey for a simple thing that should have been done to begin with lol
 

CarolKing

Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur
When my new Solo arrives, I know it's recommended to fully charge it and do a burn off. How long do you burn it for? And I'm assuming at level 7? Is there anything else I should do before I use it?
Clean the inside with alcohol (iso). Burn off for 2 or 3 cycles. Enjoy!

I guess the newest models won't be at the retail mom and pop stores for another couple months.

I have the Solo adapter so I can use while plugged in, I have the older model Solo. It won't charge the Solo.

It's a very dependable and a sturdy unit. You will never be sorry with your purchase (not many faulty unit these days I hope).
 
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clouded vision

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be careful putting anything liquid into your solo. I just did 2 cycles at 7 for a burn in. if you choose to clean the heater with iso, that's fine but make sure you only use a damp cloth. if any iso gets under the heater (through the 4 small holes) be absolutely certain it had completely evaporated before turning the solo on. If not the iso will boil and can cause the connection between the wires and heater to come undone rendering your new solo useless. I strongly recommend against using iso in the heater unless absolutely necessary. I would however clean the glass stems with iso.
 

malelz

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I read the instructions and it didn't say anything so i just used it right away lol ooops

I got it from a retail store so i assume its the newest model

The newest model should charge while using. You might've gotten an older unit. Maybe it was sitting on the shelf for awhile?

Clean the inside with alcohol (iso). Burn off for 2 or 3 cycles. Enjoy!

Thanks! Can't wait! C'mon USPS!
 
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spoutti

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be careful putting anything liquid into your solo. I just did 2 cycles at 7 for a burn in. if you choose to clean the heater with iso, that's fine but make sure you only use a damp cloth. if any iso gets under the heater (through the 4 small holes) be absolutely certain it had completely evaporated before turning the solo on. If not the iso will boil and can cause the connection between the wires and heater to come undone rendering your new solo useless. I strongly recommend against using iso in the heater unless absolutely necessary. I would however clean the glass stems with iso.

I just want to add if iso is used, squeeze well your cotton swab and do it upside down to help prevent any iso inside the solo. Not confortable, but safer for the solo.
 

CarolKing

Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur
That's right to be careful with the liquids inside.

I've been really happy with the PVHES stems. For some the draw is a little tight with the original mouthpieces, the PVHES mouthpieces sold through Planet Vape works great.
 
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Snappo

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Should I not use the ISO? I'm feeling the hesitation.
Feel free to use ISO. It is the standard cleaner for all things vape. I personally just dowse the tip of a Q-tip and then squeeze out the excess so that it's damp...then clean out my heater bowl with confidence. It works wonders for me! Enjoy without the worry - that's what Solo means for me;-)
 
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OF

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i checked their website and its 50 bux and doesn't actually charge just bypasses the battery so kinda pricey for a simple thing that should have been done to begin with lol

So you're suggesting they should have increased the price of every Solo sold, even for those who don't want the feature? Out of curiosity, how much do you estimate this would increase the cost? I suggest $15 or $20 is a savings many go to great lengths to get (by going to more questionable sources).

I think this is not an easy issue (what should be included in the package). Our experience with Cera tells us that idea (not including a charger or battery since many would have them and would rather have lower package cost) is not universally popular either. Marketing well isn't easy.

One of those 'pleasing all people all the time' things?

OF
 

clouded vision

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iso is fine to use and does an excellent job cleaning manufacturing grease as well as any vapor condensation. It is commonly used to clean electronics because it won't damage them and evaporates quickly. in fact, if you ever drop your cell phone in water, you can actually remove the battery then fully submerge the phone in iso to push the water out, then let it fully dry, works like putting the phone in rice.

The only problem with using iso in the solo heater is, you can easily get a little bit under the heater. Once you do it will evaporate slower so the heater may look dry even though underneath it isn't. The wires for the heater aren't the strongest connection (but they shouldn't be messed with ti start with so no need for anything stronger) so the boiling iso under the heater can actually break down the connection.
 

Pipes

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The newest model should charge while using. You might've gotten an older unit. Maybe it was sitting on the shelf for awhile?
I keep seeing folks making a big deal over this new "feature". I really don't see the improvement of letting the charge cord get in the way while using it. It is not really doing much in terms of charging as it drops it's charge down to 3 volts per cell while in operation mode.
This should not be confused with using in PA operation which actually saves the battery power.
I think many are getting the modes mixed up.
Just my :2c:
 

Pipes

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Hopefully Arizer will continue selling both models.
I would doubt it. No real need to as it seems as for the ability to use the charger while in operation is really up to the operator. Can still use like the old model as well.
Now makes you wonder why they decided to change that now. Or a better question might be, why did they NOT do it before? Possibly an additional safeguard to insure the battery makes it beyond warranty?
Now they have a few years of data over warranty returns and numbers of bad batteries? Just poking some guesses out there.
The different air flow is another story altogether and the complete facts haven't hit home yet.
 

zymos

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I keep seeing folks making a big deal over this new "feature". I really don't see the improvement of letting the charge cord get in the way while using it. It is not really doing much in terms of charging as it drops it's charge down to 3 volts per cell while in operation mode.
This should not be confused with using in PA operation which actually saves the battery power.
I think many are getting the modes mixed up.
Just my :2c:
So the other night, while I was using my Solo, my battery got so low that the HEAT light went off.
I plugged it in with the standard charger, and the HEAT and CHARGE lights both lit up. It heated back up and I continued using it. So the charger functions the same as a PA. I realize that, while heating, there might not be much juice going to charge the batteries, but who cares?
 

Snappo

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So the other night, while I was using my Solo, my battery got so low that the HEAT light went off.
I plugged it in with the standard charger, and the HEAT and CHARGE lights both lit up. It heated back up and I continued using it. So the charger functions the same as a PA. I realize that, while heating, there might not be much juice going to charge the batteries, but who cares?
Perhaps the added trickle charge while PA/Charging provides a little extra insurance against the battery going completely dead which might make it more difficult to revive, IDK?
 

Pipes

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So the other night, while I was using my Solo, my battery got so low that the HEAT light went off.
I plugged it in with the standard charger, and the HEAT and CHARGE lights both lit up. It heated back up and I continued using it. So the charger functions the same as a PA. I realize that, while heating, there might not be much juice going to charge the batteries, but who cares?
I agree with Snappo. Interesting though. Did you get more then one more session before you hit the charger full time?

Here is a letter from a Arizer tech on the subject. Remember when he says power adapter, he is not saying the charger.
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zymos

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No, I just finished up in a couple of minutes, then powered off and let it finish charging. I'm not sure what is going on behind the scenes in the circuitry, but to the user, wouldn't this have worked out to be the same as if I'd had an actual PA?
I'm not clear about the relevance of Arizer's letter. If they are specifically talking about the PA and not the charger, then they are talking about something else. Is the point being made that the PA does not charge?
All I know is that with my Solo, the charger seems to give me the option of charging, or of using the Solo plugged in.
So the only benefit of the PA is being able to bypass the batteries completely, thus making them last longer-is that correct?
 
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OF

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So the charger functions the same as a PA. I realize that, while heating, there might not be much juice going to charge the batteries, but who cares?

No, that's not the way it works.

The charger can only provide half the needed power (about one Amp of the two needed when the 'heat light' is flashing). When heating at most half the needed power comes from the charger (one of two Amps), the other Amp has to come from the battery. This charge is replaced 15 or so seconds later when the heat cycle shuts down again, but it's again taken right after that. This means the battery is constantly being discharged or charged at one Amp. That's why you should care.

You never charge because you're discharging almost as fast. Not good for battery life.

The PA mode, OTOH, provides the full two Amps (actually 2.5 when cold). This is the reason it calls for a more powerful supply. In that scheme the battery draw is very low, so low in fact the Solo will run without a battery at all in that mode. Not so with the new scheme.

As Pipes points out, Arizer went to a lot of extra trouble to implement the PA the way they did. It would have been cheaper and easier to use this scheme from the start you'd think. It is, after all, the common scheme with cell phones and so on.

IMO there's sound reason to think it might not be as great a change as some assume. Time will tell as our experience with it grows, but I would not be surprised to find batteries in 2 YO Solos to become a problem where as today that is not the case.

OF
 

Dreamerr

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I think so far the best bet with the new solo's is to get a PA anyhow. Although we wouldn't mind people that don't as that will give us lots of info. We are still, as pipes alluded to, waiting on reports of airflow on the new ones verse the older ones.
 

zymos

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If I want to use a vape plugged into the wall on a regular basis I have an Underdog for that. But it's handy to know that if the batteries on my Solo go dead during a session, I can plug it in to the wall and continue.
 
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