Arizer Solo

Kuroth1

Get your Freak on....
Because of the increase of airflow, I pack my bowl vary tight. This way when I place the stem in the bowl the Arizer stays right side up. Same way after the session the bowl stay packed and I pull strait up. Then with a small blow through the stem the abv is out. The disk stays in the bowl because of the O ring I placed under the cap. Stand by for pic’s:)



"The disk stays in the bowl because of the O ring I placed under the cap. Stand by for pic’s:)"

I dont follow what this means?? Is the O ring something I will have to get and do or is it something that comes built in with the disk?

Thanks!
 
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Stu

Maconheiro
Staff member
"The disk stays in the bowl because of the O ring I placed under the cap. Stand by for pic’s:)"

I dont follow what this means?? Is the O ring something I will have to get and do or is it something that comes built in with the disk?

Thanks!
I think he wedged an o-ring between the under the twist-off cap. It does not come with the disk, but that's not a bad idea, tintest.... hint hint.....

I'm looking forward to seeing a picture.

BTW, I just tried the "pack tight" method while using the tintest disk and it worked well. However my abv was lighter than usual (I'm used to always vaping on "4") with this method. So I cranked it up to 7 (they should make these with 11 settings just for the ability to say "this goes to 11") and got really, really high..... really really fast. :whoa:

Since my load doesn't make any contact with the floor of the bowl, there is no conduction occuring as it normally would with a full, unpacked load. This to me has a secondary benefit of improving the taste of the vapor considerably. I never liked the smoky flavor that can come from conduction, so this is a plus for me. My abv came out looking about the color of freeze-dried coffee (lighter than regular coffee), more of a medium brown color and consistent throughout.

:peace:
 
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jambandphan03

in flavor country
there are 2 versions of the aquavape a 5" and a 7" model. i have the 5" one. hitting the aquavape with my regular stem made my head hurt, hahahah
i was able to fully enjoy the aquavape once i did the stem mod.

Where did you find the 5" one, I did a google search and can only find the 7" I would like the smaller one for the solo, and can use the big one for my box vape.

**Never mind, after changing my search wording I eventually found one. :)

I have plenty of this clear hose/tubing that is a bit stiff, and a little small in diameter for the aquavape connections, I had to be pretty forceful to put it on there, any advice on the right hose that will not be so stiff? I like clear, but if that does not exist in the flexible kind, I'll settle for what I can get.
 
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tintest

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I think he wedged an o-ring between the under the twist-off cap. It does not come with the disk, but that's not a bad idea, tintest.... hint hint.....

I'm looking forward to seeing a picture.

BTW, I just tried the "pack tight" method while using the tintest disk and it worked well. However my abv was lighter than usual (I'm used to always vaping on "4") with this method. So I cranked it up to 7 (they should make these with 11 settings just for the ability to say "this goes to 11") and got really, really high..... really really fast. :whoa:

Since my load doesn't make any contact with the floor of the bowl, there is no conduction occuring as it normally would with a full, unpacked load. This to me has a secondary benefit of improving the taste of the vapor considerably. I never liked the smoky flavor that can come from conduction, so this is a plus for me. My abv came out looking about the color of freeze-dried coffee (lighter than regular coffee), more of a medium brown color and consistent throughout.

:peace:


To avoid confusion I use the tight pack method. To load and unload my unit but I also have an O ring on my unit.
I use the O ring to keep the stem in the bowl and ensure the only air entering my stem is coming from the 4 holes at the bottom of the SS bowl. (not the stem the bowl)
The O ring is slightly smaller then the stem it grips the stem tightly when in the stem is in the bowl holding it in place.
When the stem is removed the O ring contracts stopping the disk from falling out of the unit.

Stu, You noticed. I too hate that burnt taste. Not a problem any longer!
Great idea! I will include a O ring in each disk order just for safety.:nod:

Convection Baby! Yea!:smug:
Glad to see your enjoying the Disk!:tup:
 
tintest,

Silver420Surfer

Downward spiral
To avoid confusion I use the tight pack method. To load and unload my unit but I also have an O ring on my unit.
I use the O ring to keep the stem in the bowl and ensure the only air entering my stem is coming from the 4 holes at the bottom of the SS bowl. (not the stem the bowl)
The O ring is slightly smaller then the stem it grips the stem tightly when in the stem is in the bowl holding it in place.
When the stem is removed the O ring contracts stopping the disk from falling out of the unit.

Stu, You noticed. I too hate that burnt taste. Not a problem any longer!
Great idea! I will include a O ring in each disk order just for safety.:nod:

Convection Baby! Yea!:smug:
Glad to see your enjoying the Disk!:tup:

Tintest, what is that o-ring made of? And is the correct size 9/16?

Thanks
S420S
 
Silver420Surfer,

ru_frothi

Portable Vaporist
Yes, for a little while they were coexisting the models and they have had SS and Ceramic models out for quite a while. The M103 run was ceramic, my friend has an M103 and his uses a ceramic element so I know what your saying.

I'm going to have to update the vaporpedia entry because it claims all models below M104 use a ceramic element. However, let me assure you that my unit is a M102 and most defiantly has a steel bowl, because the inside of the bowl has started to get worn and I can clearly see metal instead of ceramic.

IMG_20120318_234113.jpg


I hate to rain on a parade, but I would hate for anyone to buy one of those thinking it would charge the solo, because it just dosen't output enough. I had to go and buy a replacement charger and the only ones that would work with my solo were the ones that could put out over an amp in power. That guy is nowhere near that.

That looks like a chipped ceramic bowl to me. Certainly doesn't look like the stainless bowl models. I have an M104 chipped as do others that looks just like that. I will email Steve at Arizer and ask him for clarification. Please contribute to the wiki if you have time, I could use some help. Anyone wanting to edit the wiki needs to PM VTAC for an account. The bowl in the early ones were mild steel and not stainless according to manufacturer. Its clear as you have seen that there are changes being made throughout.

So is the residue glue or acid? looks more like acid residue than glue and that would explain the sticking. notice how its only on the battery side and its uneven.
 
ru_frothi,

WatTyler

Revolting Peasant
Very Interesting. I have taken apart 4 solos now all M104 and later and now glue. I will add this to the wiki article.
Isn't that jumping the gun a bit? we really don't know what it is, maybe just a faulty battery? Tis a shame Arizer themselves can't chip in.

Def looks to me like worn ceramic in the pic above that :2c:
 
WatTyler,

ru_frothi

Portable Vaporist
Isn't that jumping the gun a bit? we really don't know what it is, maybe just a faulty battery? Tis a shame Arizer themselves can't chip in.

Def looks to me like worn ceramic in the pic above that :2c:

I will add the pic and I already emailed it to steve at arizer for his take. It doesn't seem to be glue but the end user should be able to determine easily if its glue or battery acid residue. If its acid it can show what it looks like....
 
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sessnet

Noob Saibot
Guys, what do you think about these kind of bubblers?

http://www.everyonedoesit.com/onlin...bler_Pipe__Candy_Reversal.cfm?iProductID=4800

Can the Solo be used with these? I can't seem to find any small thick glass bubblers in the under 50 euros range except this kind...

I know this would be picky (me being picky) but I would opt for clear glass (so you can see stuff), and a glass-on-glass connection.

Check this thread if you haven't already:
CHEAP HIGH QUALITY BUBBLER
 
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lordprats

Member
Hi All,

Have been using a Solo for the last month or so. black 106 series that arrived in Jan. Ordered from Vaposhop and after some issues with the glass stems things are fine now....except...

I cannot seem to understand how everyone here talks of grinding the herb and not have it fall onto the metal plate while vaping. The only way to avoid the herb touching the plate is to hold the vape horizontal or upside down which I have noticed reduces the vapur. The literature with the vape states clearly that herb on plate is not an ideal scenario. So whats the deal here? A screen between the plate and herb is a solution but I am then worried about what the screen is made of and how heating it might release some other stuff which I am not aware of.

Yes, I have searched the 230 pages using the search function. I even tried reading the first 100 or so pages but have given up since. If you feel the answer is there somewhere please do post the search string and I'll use it. If not, comments appreciated.

Thanks in advance and Cheers.

Prats
 
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Wrongo

Member
Just got a Solo (M107) from Vapornation about 10 days ago, and I'm pretty sure the battery is already dead. It appears to charge completely, but I can only get about 60 secs at 4 before both the heat and charge lights start flashing, and the unit drops to 1. Otherwise, I'm happy with the unit.I've contacted VN and they told me to send it back.
 
Wrongo,

natural farmer

Well-Known Member
I know this would be picky (me being picky) but I would opt for clear glass (so you can see stuff), and a glass-on-glass connection.

Check this thread if you haven't already:
CHEAP HIGH QUALITY BUBBLER

I t seems like these bubblers have a 18,8mm input but I need someone to confirm this. Then an adapter from 18,8 to 14,4 might be used?

I am following that thread too but most of the stuff there is pretty expensive.
 
natural farmer,

natural farmer

Well-Known Member
Hi All,

Have been using a Solo for the last month or so. black 106 series that arrived in Jan. Ordered from Vaposhop and after some issues with the glass stems things are fine now....except...

I cannot seem to understand how everyone here talks of grinding the herb and not have it fall onto the metal plate while vaping. The only way to avoid the herb touching the plate is to hold the vape horizontal or upside down which I have noticed reduces the vapur. The literature with the vape states clearly that herb on plate is not an ideal scenario. So whats the deal here? A screen between the plate and herb is a solution but I am then worried about what the screen is made of and how heating it might release some other stuff which I am not aware of.

Yes, I have searched the 230 pages using the search function. I even tried reading the first 100 or so pages but have given up since. If you feel the answer is there somewhere please do post the search string and I'll use it. If not, comments appreciated.

Thanks in advance and Cheers.

Prats

I usually begin drawing with the solo upside down and immediately hold it straight again. Towards the end of the drawing I turn it upside down again and then I lay it on it's side. If you don't stir after the first hit, the pieces in the bowl usually stick together. Maybe a couple of pieces drop on the hot plate but it doesn't affect the taste much.
 
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sessnet

Noob Saibot
I t seems like these bubblers have a 18,8mm input but I need someone to confirm this. Then an adapter from 18,8 to 14,4 might be used?

I am following that thread too but most of the stuff there is pretty expensive.

You mean the one you posted? That does not look like it has a glass-on-glass connector. However, almost all of the ones on that other thread, do. It is a little more expensive but there were a few in the $50 price range (like the one you posted).

The main reason I guess you might not want to use the one you posted is - the bowl is attached, and has a small hole. Imagine pulling on the Solo through an even smaller hole than the stem, it will be pretty rough!
 
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lordprats

Member
I usually begin drawing with the solo upside down and immediately hold it straight again. Towards the end of the drawing I turn it upside down again and then I lay it on it's side. If you don't stir after the first hit, the pieces in the bowl usually stick together. Maybe a couple of pieces drop on the hot plate but it doesn't affect the taste much.

Thanks for the reply Ili. I am pretty happy with the taste to be honest. I do also stir the herb every once in a while. My concern is that when you (and I) stand the vape straight, I cannot see how the ground herb does not end up touching the plate. Which in my opinion makes this closer to combustion than induction. I want to be as far away from any direct contact between the two and there does not seem to be anyway to really achieve that :(

The other thing is that with hash there is just no way to keep it 'wedged in' into the glass bowl since melting makes it drip into the hot plate eventually. My work around is to never hold the vape straight up with hash no matter what - wither sideways or upside down - which reduces the vapor in my case for sure.

I was just wondering if people worry about this here, or is it me just being paranoid?

Cheers,
P
 
lordprats,

natural farmer

Well-Known Member
Thanks for the reply Ili. I am pretty happy with the taste to be honest. I do also stir the herb every once in a while. My concern is that when you (and I) stand the vape straight, I cannot see how the ground herb does not end up touching the plate. Which in my opinion makes this closer to combustion than induction. I want to be as far away from any direct contact between the two and there does not seem to be anyway to really achieve that :(

The other thing is that with hash there is just no way to keep it 'wedged in' into the glass bowl since melting makes it drip into the hot plate eventually. My work around is to never hold the vape straight up with hash no matter what - wither sideways or upside down - which reduces the vapor in my case for sure.

I was just wondering if people worry about this here, or is it me just being paranoid?

Cheers,
P

To avoid the touching of the herb you can under-fill the bowl. Leave a little gap between the plate and the herbs. To avoid even a couple of swirling particles touching the plate, you can use a second screen on top of your herbs...
 
natural farmer,

ilovebOObs

can i stick my male joint in there?
i've been vaping full melt with my herb a lot lately and found no problems at all. i just put the wax in first then pack herb on top of it. herb contacting the metal bowl does not bother me.
 
ilovebOObs,

sessnet

Noob Saibot
I was just wondering if people worry about this here, or is it me just being paranoid?
Cheers,
P

I think getting herb in there cannot be avoided. When you pack your stems - if you press it in a little, it won't stick out. Also, I notice when I am done with the load - somehow the herb shrinks into the stem, meaning I probably don't pack it tight, and the air being pulled through the stem compacts the herb more.

You can put one more screen on top of the herb...but that won't stop tiny particles.

You can try to use larger grind..but if it is dry, it may still crumble a bit.

My Solo is sort of dirty with ABV everywhere, even in the smallest cracks. Sometimes when I turn it on - I smell a burnt herb smell, so I know it gets in there more than I would like.

I would love to keep the bowl pristine clean, but not sure how :/

My Solo is up for a good cleaning. Tintest suggested using compressed air to blow everything out/in.

I understand your concern with the herb burning/combusting, but if you don't see smoke, I don't think it's really burning.
 
sessnet,

natural farmer

Well-Known Member
You mean the one you posted? That does not look like it has a glass-on-glass connector. However, almost all of the ones on that other thread, do. It is a little more expensive but there were a few in the $50 price range (like the one you posted).

The main reason I guess you might not want to use the one you posted is - the bowl is attached, and has a small hole. Imagine pulling on the Solo through an even smaller hole than the stem, it will be pretty rough!

Hey man, I believe that small hole is the carb, the input is from the top. Usually the herb goes in there with a screen, but if someone has used one of these bubblers maybe he can tell us if the Solo stem can go in there...

http://www.grasscity.com/eu_en/smok...g-glass/bubblers?dir=asc&limit=60&order=price
 
natural farmer,

ilovebOObs

can i stick my male joint in there?
you can prolly use some tubing to form a seal good enough to hit from that bubbler.
 
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sessnet

Noob Saibot
Hey man, I believe that small hole is the carb, the input is from the top. Usually the herb goes in there with a screen, but if someone has used one of these bubblers maybe he can tell us if the Solo stem can go in there...

http://www.grasscity.com/eu_en/smok...g-glass/bubblers?dir=asc&limit=60&order=price

I think we were talking about this one:
http://www.everyonedoesit.com/onlin...bler_Pipe__Candy_Reversal.cfm?iProductID=4800

I think the hole in those type of bowls would most likely be tiny and will make pulling on the Solo nearly impossible.

As for the bong-type ones in the link you provided, that would work, but you would need to buy a glass-on-glass downstem, because those downstems look like they already have a bowl attached, and the holes in those are usually tiny.
 
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jambandphan03

in flavor country
I use a 1/2" stainless steel screen to "cap" my loose herb and keep in the bowl. Stainless is safe, it is what the heat chamber is made of. I just shape it like a bowl, so it slips in and out easily. I know it was not long ago that there were photos posted about how to do this, if you need pictures. I don't have time to sit and wade through posts to find it right now. I don't like herb touching the heat element as it gives that toasted popcorn taste to a fresh load.
 
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