Arizer Solo

Buzzbomb Almighty

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@Pappy when you got your stems did you give each empty stem a full cycle of heat to burn the oil off before trying to vape anything? If not, that might explain the misting.
2 of my 3 solos have damaged bases now so I covered it in time-honoured tradition, bright yellow duct tape.
 

Pappy

shmaporist
@Pappy when you got your stems did you give each empty stem a full cycle of heat to burn the oil off before trying to vape anything? If not, that might explain the misting.
2 of my 3 solos have damaged bases now so I covered it in time-honoured tradition, bright yellow duct tape.
No, hit them fresh out of box after 24 minute Solo II burnoff. I've owned a half dozen or more Solos, two Airs, plus dozens of PV stems. I never experience this before. Based on the blasé response to my post, I gather it's more common than I think and I've just been lucky up to now.
 

OF

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Based on the blasé response to my post, I gather it's more common than I think and I've just been lucky up to now.

Or didn't have the same conditions/techniques? I think it's pretty common and typically related to how clean the inner surface gets. At least that's my experience (and I think others as well).

To be honest I don't think it's fair to characterize the efforts that many of us made to work with you on this topic "blasé", it was, IMO a sincere effort to help out a fellow Forum Member.......... I'm sorry if it didn't involve a bunch of us joining some idea that suddenly quality on Arizer stems had crashed as you wished?

OF
 

Pappy

shmaporist
Or didn't have the same conditions/techniques? I think it's pretty common and typically related to how clean the inner surface gets. At least that's my experience (and I think others as well).

To be honest I don't think it's fair to characterize the efforts that many of us made to work with you on this topic "blasé", it was, IMO a sincere effort to help out a fellow Forum Member.......... I'm sorry if it didn't involve a bunch of us joining some idea that suddenly quality on Arizer stems had crashed as you wished?

OF
I appreciate your input but I think you're misreading this. I interpreted the forum's blasé response as a indication that "it's more common than I think and I've just been lucky up to now"; as I said. I found the blasé response to my issue enlightening. Nor did I select the word, blasé, for its insult value, I chose it because that's how I interpreted it. Lastly, I'm not interested in fomenting an uprising against Arizer. But out of dozens of Arizer stems and elbows I used, I do personally consider these two the most problematic. I haven't lost any sleep over it. But if it becomes prevalent -- a new Arizer norm -- I imagine others will really start bitching about it.
:peace:
 

eaglesgift

Active Member
I appreciate your input but I think you're misreading this. I interpreted the forum's blasé response as a indication that "it's more common than I think and I've just been lucky up to now"; as I said. I found the blasé response to my issue enlightening. Nor did I select the word, blasé, for its insult value, I chose it because that's how I interpreted it. Lastly, I'm not interested in fomenting an uprising against Arizer. But out of dozens of Arizer stems and elbows I used, I do personally consider these two the most problematic. I haven't lost any sleep over it. But if it becomes prevalent -- a new Arizer norm -- I imagine others will really start bitching about it.
:peace:
For whatever it's worth, my stems never clouded up like that until after I first cleaned them with PBW. Up till that time I always used an ISO soak and a hot water rinse.
 

OF

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For whatever it's worth, my stems never clouded up like that until after I first cleaned them with PBW. Up till that time I always used an ISO soak and a hot water rinse.

Interesting. Perhaps we're using different techniques since I see just the opposite? That is no clouding with PBW washing but do/did see it with ISO from time to time.

Interesting......but still it seems related to cleaning not any changes in the glass or QC?

OF
 

OF

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In the ironic way things sometimes work, I'd just finished enjoying my Solo II and one of Randy's 'WT Arizer stems" with some lovely top shelf I got the other day when I found a newbie struggling with just what this guy fixes. It occurs to me he's far from alone, so I'd encourage those interested in such things, or having trouble with 'harsh vapor' to wonder over there and look for amusment:
OF's PIU stem rant

There's a photo of a similar one with water in it and lots of rambling on why you should take a fifteen dollar flyer on this one. "Trust me", it really can make a difference for a very small price and very little trouble to use.

These guys work with the original Solo (this model), the Solo II and Air.....making them more useful still?

Regards to all on what looks to be a great day indeed.

OF
 

ataxian

PALE BLUE DOT
Interesting. Perhaps we're using different techniques since I see just the opposite? That is no clouding with PBW washing but do/did see it with ISO from time to time.

Interesting......but still it seems related to cleaning not any changes in the glass or QC?

OF
@OF You know more than most of us!
I use dish soap and simple green to clean all my glass?

I tried most of the expensive stuff however it did not work as well?

I hate to waste $$$ to a fault so please ignore my rant?

I wasn't aware this site was still alive?
Just going to break out my SOLO #1 for a quick rip!
tl3U3QU.jpg

This GRAPE APE TASTE so amazing in a SOLO even if it's OLD!
Thanks @CarolKing for encouraging me to try it!
 
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OF

Well-Known Member
I use dish soap and simple green to clean all my glass?

I tried most of the expensive stuff however it did not work as well?

I hate to waste $$$ to a fault so please ignore my rant?

They work (obviously) for most cases that are 'in control, but a purpose built detergent will work better in 'problem cases'. PBW is an industrial cleaner formulated first for Coors to clean out brewing gear. Same sort of stuff (burnt on hydrocarbon junk) we have to deal with and like us they have access issues so mechanical scrubbing is out. It has to work 'on it's own' and in tough cases in isolated places (like inside a WT). And in sub standard water. And at a low cost. And it has to 'rinse clean'.

So they put buffers and agents to negate hard (it's great at cleaning the 'haze' out of the dishwasher, run a teaspoon full through and see what happens....) and 'off pH' water. And, since you can't scrub, the 'Oxyscrub action' you see on TV ads. It liberates Oxygen selectively at dirt/slime adhesions (like bubbles rising in a glass of beer from a flaw on the surface.

In a badly fouled bong you can watch the bubbles 'get in under' the ugly stuff and float it away. Remember, this is a detergent, not a solvent, it doesn't dissolve stuff to do it's job, it separates stuff off the glass surface at the atomic level. The condensate doesn't mix with the wash like with ISO you get tiny beads of concentrate and junk suspended in the wash water or stuck to the walls somewhere else.......

Hey, a ten dollar jar lasts years and does a great and simple job. Give it a go? When was the last time I lied to you and it cost you less than $20?

OF
 

ataxian

PALE BLUE DOT
They work (obviously) for most cases that are 'in control, but a purpose built detergent will work better in 'problem cases'. PBW is an industrial cleaner formulated first for Coors to clean out brewing gear. Same sort of stuff (burnt on hydrocarbon junk) we have to deal with and like us they have access issues so mechanical scrubbing is out. It has to work 'on it's own' and in tough cases in isolated places (like inside a WT). And in sub standard water. And at a low cost. And it has to 'rinse clean'.

So they put buffers and agents to negate hard (it's great at cleaning the 'haze' out of the dishwasher, run a teaspoon full through and see what happens....) and 'off pH' water. And, since you can't scrub, the 'Oxyscrub action' you see on TV ads. It liberates Oxygen selectively at dirt/slime adhesions (like bubbles rising in a glass of beer from a flaw on the surface.

In a badly fouled bong you can watch the bubbles 'get in under' the ugly stuff and float it away. Remember, this is a detergent, not a solvent, it doesn't dissolve stuff to do it's job, it separates stuff off the glass surface at the atomic level. The condensate doesn't mix with the wash like with ISO you get tiny beads of concentrate and junk suspended in the wash water or stuck to the walls somewhere else.......

Hey, a ten dollar jar lasts years and does a great and simple job. Give it a go? When was the last time I lied to you and it cost you less than $20?

OF
I have some PBW from 5 years ago I'll try.
My glass is cleaned after every session so maybe I don't get the same built up?

I have a weird clean freak problem!

Clean rip's taste better to me?

I like convenience as well!
 

VapeHeadz

Well-Known Member
Since I only use glass stems and no bubblers my glass is easy to clean. I have maybe 5 glass stems, 4 straight and 1 bent and I rotate them. When one gets a bit stained I put it in the dishwasher (with a full load of other things like plates and cutlery, i put the stem in one of the boxes designed for knives and forks but it's always in the one box by itself so it doesnt touch anything else) and the stem usually comes out pretty clean, if there is any residue still left in the stem after it going through the dishwasher I use one piece of paper towel and roll it up into a long tight piece like a pipe cleaner and slide it down into the stem to grab any remaining bits.

My two Solos my original black (with a replaced battery) and a later model silver unit are both still working perfectly so I have still not bothered to buy a Solo 2.

I was initially planning to buy a solo 2 and a NLE solo to make up the set but I couldn't justify spending the money when my 2 x Solo 1's do such a good job as it is.

Maybe one day I'll get a solo 2.. :)
 

ataxian

PALE BLUE DOT
Since I only use glass stems and no bubblers my glass is easy to clean. I have maybe 5 glass stems, 4 straight and 1 bent and I rotate them. When one gets a bit stained I put it in the dishwasher (with a full load of other things like plates and cutlery, i put the stem in one of the boxes designed for knives and forks but it's always in the one box by itself so it doesnt touch anything else) and the stem usually comes out pretty clean, if there is any residue still left in the stem after it going through the dishwasher I use one piece of paper towel and roll it up into a long tight piece like a pipe cleaner and slide it down into the stem to grab any remaining bits.

My two Solos my original black (with a replaced battery) and a later model silver unit are both still working perfectly so I have still not bothered to buy a Solo 2.

I was initially planning to buy a solo 2 and a NLE solo to make up the set but I couldn't justify spending the money when my 2 x Solo 1's do such a good job as it is.

Maybe one day I'll get a solo 2.. :)
Very well said!

I love the look of the NL model.
However I like to paint stuff for entertainment.

My pink SOLO rocks on (one of the first ones with a battery pack replacement)

I will buy a new SUV (black wheels and a white paint job) I love the STORM TROPER look!

Now the SOLO I love because it work's, taste OK.
Portables are not my thing however the SOLO is dependable for my needs!

Like you @VapeHeadz I use it dry these dayz!
 

Andreaerdna

If God is the answer, then the question is wrong
My three yrs old solo seems just has died

It starts heating and when it reaches second temperature dot it turns off

Already tryied changing battery but problem persists, fuck, hoped it will last a decade

Anyone has suggestions?
 
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OF

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My three yrs old solo seems just has died

It starts heating and when it reaches second temperature dot it turns off

Already tryied changing battery but problem persists, fuck, hoped it will last a decade

Anyone has suggestions?

Bummer. Sounds like the battery has given up. How was the battery life lately? Less sessions per charge?

3 YO? That's about the time 'use while charging' versions came out so that means you can't plug the charger in and heat at the same time? If you can ('use while charging') you might be able to limp along that way for a while, otherwise (if it never did this) you can shift to PA use and keep on?

Otherwise, I suspect you're in the market for a new battery.......

OF
 

Quetzalcoatl

DEADY GUERRERO/DIRT COBAIN/GEORGE KUSH
Bummer. Sounds like the battery has given up. How was the battery life lately? Less sessions per charge?

3 YO? That's about the time 'use while charging' versions came out so that means you can't plug the charger in and heat at the same time? If you can ('use while charging') you might be able to limp along that way for a while, otherwise (if it never did this) you can shift to PA use and keep on?

Otherwise, I suspect you're in the market for a new battery.......

OF
Consider the following

Already tryied changing battery but problem persists

Maybe two bad batteries in a row?
 

OF

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Consider the following

Already tryied changing battery but problem persists

Maybe two bad batteries in a row?

I don't read it as having tried a second battery (could be wrong, of course). I read it as the battery holds just enough charge to get started heating, but 30 or seconds into the heat it drops out?

Such failures are seldom sudden as electronic failures typically are. Normally the weaker of the two cells dies fairly quickly but I'd expect dropping from say 8 sessions to a couple to not even a full session over at least a dozen recharge cycles......that is the owner should see the pack get weaker and weaker. This should be coupled with unrealistically short recharge times. That is it no longer takes a couple hours to replace the small charge used, more like 15 minutes or so?

OF
 

Andreaerdna

If God is the answer, then the question is wrong
I tryied a second battery already and got same problem

I unmounted everything, on the back of the electronic board there was some reclaim (it was looking like rust but while cleaning it was gunky like reclaim)


Cleaned everything but now it is worst... idle led blinks as if there was a bad contact... me think it Time to accept its death :(
Tried reset and using while plugged but the problem persists...
 

Quetzalcoatl

DEADY GUERRERO/DIRT COBAIN/GEORGE KUSH
I tryied a second battery already and got same problem

I unmounted everything, on the back of the electronic board there was some reclaim (it was looking like rust but while cleaning it was gunky like reclaim)


Cleaned everything but now it is worst... idle led blinks as if there was a bad contact... me think it Time to accept its death :(
Tried reset and using while plugged but the problem persists...
Very sad news. Did you happen to snap any pictures of it by chance? I'd be curious to see where and what happened. That's a rough one :(
 
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SloJimFizz

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:rip: @Andreaerdna 's Solo.

That's an awesome deal, thanks @sickmanfraud .
Took me a minute to find it here in the super saver area. Now the trick is for me how not to pull the trigger cause I'm only a month or so into this Solo I have. May be awhile before another would see the light of day for me.
Although those multiple Solos firing off on a candelabra bubbler adaptor has always intrigued me. I'm looking at you @Buzzbomb Almighty . ;)
 

Andreaerdna

If God is the answer, then the question is wrong
Dead vape working

Back home from job and found idle led is off (not blinking crazy)
i turned it on: it stays on and rise up until full heat
Was soo happy :) :)


Tryied second time with a loaded stem and yet again it turns itself off

Fuuck

Thank you for link to great deal, will pm PVape right now :)

Edit @Quetzalcoatl not a picture but on main electric soldering point (from battery to board and from board to heater) and in a less measure random elsewhere there was a rust like deposit of reclaim (do not know if you are familiar with the image of a steel nail rusting on a clean surface, with rust spreading in radial lines, from center to outside, as if there was some kind of attraction)

I used it a lot on a orbiter and never bother to lift up to clear if not at the last hit..
 
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Quetzalcoatl

DEADY GUERRERO/DIRT COBAIN/GEORGE KUSH
Dead vape working

Back home from job and found idle led is off (not blinking crazy)
i turned it on: it stays on and rise up until full heat
Was soo happy :) :)


Tryied second time with a loaded stem and yet again it turns itself off

Fuuck

Thank you for link to great deal, will pm PVape right now :)

Edit @Quetzalcoatl not a picture but on main electric soldering point (from battery to board and from board to heater) and in a less measure random elsewhere there was a rust like deposit of reclaim (do not know if you are familiar with the image of a steel nail rusting on a clean surface, with rust spreading in radial lines, from center to outside, as if there was some kind of attraction)

I used it a lot on a orbiter and never bother to lift up to clear if not at the last hit..
Yeah I know what you mean now. Damn, I would have never thought about that either. I pull mine off to clear but usually left it sitting on top after. Sorry to hear about your Solo :rip:
 

TheWhisper

Well-Known Member
Apologies if this has been discussed extensively up-thread, but what's the consensus on the Solo 2? How does it compare to the Solo 1 in terms of: vapor production, battery life, repairability, durability, and all the other qualities that make the Solo 1 a beast?
 
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Dr. Soxhlet

SOLO Vaporized Cannabis is my Best Medicine
They work (obviously) for most cases that are 'in control, but a purpose built detergent will work better in 'problem cases'. PBW is an industrial cleaner formulated first for Coors to clean out brewing gear. Same sort of stuff (burnt on hydrocarbon junk) we have to deal with and like us they have access issues so mechanical scrubbing is out. It has to work 'on it's own' and in tough cases in isolated places (like inside a WT). And in sub standard water. And at a low cost. And it has to 'rinse clean'.

So they put buffers and agents to negate hard (it's great at cleaning the 'haze' out of the dishwasher, run a teaspoon full through and see what happens....) and 'off pH' water. And, since you can't scrub, the 'Oxyscrub action' you see on TV ads. It liberates Oxygen selectively at dirt/slime adhesions (like bubbles rising in a glass of beer from a flaw on the surface.

In a badly fouled bong you can watch the bubbles 'get in under' the ugly stuff and float it away. Remember, this is a detergent, not a solvent, it doesn't dissolve stuff to do it's job, it separates stuff off the glass surface at the atomic level. The condensate doesn't mix with the wash like with ISO you get tiny beads of concentrate and junk suspended in the wash water or stuck to the walls somewhere else.......

Hey, a ten dollar jar lasts years and does a great and simple job. Give it a go? When was the last time I lied to you and it cost you less than $20?

OF
Yes, this stuff works amazing. I use it to clean my beer brewing equipment as well.

Since I only use glass stems and no bubblers my glass is easy to clean. I have maybe 5 glass stems, 4 straight and 1 bent and I rotate them. When one gets a bit stained I put it in the dishwasher (with a full load of other things like plates and cutlery, i put the stem in one of the boxes designed for knives and forks but it's always in the one box by itself so it doesnt touch anything else) and the stem usually comes out pretty clean, if there is any residue still left in the stem after it going through the dishwasher I use one piece of paper towel and roll it up into a long tight piece like a pipe cleaner and slide it down into the stem to grab any remaining bits.

My two Solos my original black (with a replaced battery) and a later model silver unit are both still working perfectly so I have still not bothered to buy a Solo 2.

I was initially planning to buy a solo 2 and a NLE solo to make up the set but I couldn't justify spending the money when my 2 x Solo 1's do such a good job as it is.

Maybe one day I'll get a solo 2.. :)
Presently trying to sell one of my 2 Solos to a friend, so I can justify spending money on the new model.
 
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