I was gathering parts to build just that, OF, but the cost was almost that of that fancy Anker unit. I don't have any other devices that use 18650's but I do have other devices that would use the 12V out. Assuming proper wiring/cabling, would you plug that 3-cell into your phone?
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WakeAndVape
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Glad to finally join the solo family...got one for $50 and I realize I would have paid full retail...i like this thing alot! Will be searching through this thread for best practices
got a new straight glass stem because the unit didn't come with one...wishing I would have joined sooner...aany shortcuts are appreciated
got a new straight glass stem because the unit didn't come with one...wishing I would have joined sooner...aany shortcuts are appreciated
Battery Holder $2.10
Decent Batteries (for this application) $13.62/ pr. $27.24 for 4
Total is $29.34 with free shipping.
Problem is batteries from Fasttech take well over a month to get. They ship batteries Hong Kong post and they get quarantined as part of the process. Gives time to get the connectors in order.
Nevertheless, under $30.
Get another holder and one more pack of batteries and you have two set ups for $45
Chargers can be had as well for under $20 to charge the 18650s.
Definitely a cheaper route. But we all have our ideas on best approach.
Good Luck
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Oh yeah, you would not plug this into your phone. It wants 5 volt. Would brick your phone in a heart beat.
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OF
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Not directly, mine wants five Volts. But I do feed the '12 Volts or so' into the circuit board from a USB auto charge adapter and use the USB port output to charge the phone. And my Air. And the ESV. And any number of vape pens.......
One like these guys:
http://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters®-2-Pack-Dual-USB-Charger/dp/B00MH3USBE/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1431225964&sr=8-6&keywords=usb+car+charger
Oh, yeah, I've charged my TW700 tablet that way, too.
Good run down. Bummer about extra delays with Fastech, IMO they don't need the PO or Customs helping out, they're slow enough on their own.
Another point if favor of 'the poor man's home made battery pack' is when one cell dies (one has to go first.....), all you do it replace that one and soldier on. Better than buying a whole new unit.
OF
Quetzalcoatl
DEADY GUERRERO/DIRT COBAIN/GEORGE KUSH
Please for the love of god pass on FastTech for batteries. There have been lots of reports on ecig forums regarding re-wrapped batteries. Sure that's usually only gonna matter for ecig/high amp situations but still... illumination supply is a company I like. http://www.illumn.com/ there are other retailers for 18650 batteries as well. It also helps if you already have a bunch of them around...
Wow, gonna give you a PM on more info about this. I've been getting my high current batts from fast tech for years. Panas, LG, Sony and Samsung only, but never had noticeable capacity problems. Sorry, getting off topic. Thanks for the heads up.Please for the love of god pass on FastTech for batteries. There have been lots of reports on ecig forums regarding re-wrapped batteries. Sure that's usually only gonna matter for ecig/high amp situations but still... illumination supply is a company I like. http://www.illumn.com/ there are other retailers for 18650 batteries as well. It also helps if you already have a bunch of them around...
WakeAndVape
VapeLife X
Also glad I came into this thread an during interesting topic...However I was reluctant to to interject because of my feeling of being extremely ignorant to the subject content....but here it goes...
... where can i start to get groundwork needed to make such chargers? I have limited soldering experience, an electronics for dummies book (lol) and some hours to spend researching and the capacity to learn
I dream of such things because I live in a world where a wall is too far away at most times and chargers(?) that can output as much power is highly desirable
*back to the solo...i have been using the solo ALL night and it's all love!
...so many vapes...so little time!
... where can i start to get groundwork needed to make such chargers? I have limited soldering experience, an electronics for dummies book (lol) and some hours to spend researching and the capacity to learn
I dream of such things because I live in a world where a wall is too far away at most times and chargers(?) that can output as much power is highly desirable
*back to the solo...i have been using the solo ALL night and it's all love!
...so many vapes...so little time!
WakeAndVape
VapeLife X
Send them to my house please!
ataxian
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I live in the beach cities of orange county!Hey, if you're in LA, i can refer youhaha
The prices keep falling!
1 oz will be $40 by next year!
Hey y'all, I'm new here, so I figured I should say hi.... so, hi!
I'm wondering if anybody here could help me with a problem I've been having with my Arizer Solo since Thursday?
It's ~14 months old, hasn't acted up until just the past few days, and it just won't turn on now.
I tried every outlet in my house and two different chargers. They give off weird patterns when plugged in.
https://streamable.com/mpg6 -
shows the charging pattern it is giving, it's not turning on at all, the reset method did nothing and I'm not quite sure what to make of it.
After a while, the charge light becomes red and flashes like it's charging.
https://streamable.com/ssbr -
shows what happens with a charger from my friend. Different pattern, turned the sound back on the Arizer for this one.
Any help/advice is appreciated! Thanks.
I'm wondering if anybody here could help me with a problem I've been having with my Arizer Solo since Thursday?
It's ~14 months old, hasn't acted up until just the past few days, and it just won't turn on now.
I tried every outlet in my house and two different chargers. They give off weird patterns when plugged in.
https://streamable.com/mpg6 -
shows the charging pattern it is giving, it's not turning on at all, the reset method did nothing and I'm not quite sure what to make of it.
After a while, the charge light becomes red and flashes like it's charging.
https://streamable.com/ssbr -
shows what happens with a charger from my friend. Different pattern, turned the sound back on the Arizer for this one.
Any help/advice is appreciated! Thanks.
DreamHaze
Psychonaughty
I sure hope so
OF
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I'm sorry, I got kinda lost, lots of ideas flying around and all. If you're asking 'how do I make such a battery pack of 18650s to charge my Solo?' I think we can deal with that easily enough if you can solder and strip a few wires. It's really not all that hard, six solder connections total. Either Pipes or I can walk you through it by PM if you want. Perhaps through some conspiracy set up a 'how to' thread/tutorial if there's enough interest.
Anyway, if you want to try making one (and IMO it should be easy enough if you're not afraid of soldering......which you should not be, a lot of guys with not much going for them do a bang up job of it everyday) give us a PM?
Howdy, sorry to meet you under a dark cloud. I'm afraid this sounds like the battery has failed. How was the charging/sessions per charge doing just before it went out? Newer model Solos need a battery with at least partial charge to run, the charger is just that, it charges only. It doesn't have the power needed to actually run Solo (only about half). Trying to make it on a lame battery produces the kind of conditions you describe, or can at least. Given the age and performance I'll put my money of battery?
How was the charging and sessions per charge before this?
With you there, Bro. While there's the usual junk available I think the premium batteries are genuine. I too don't trust 'off brand' batteries that cost less and claim better performance than the known name brands. Come on, capacities past the best Panasonic and Sony are offering?
I too have bought lots of the popular top end batteries from them at considerable savings over Orbitronics and Lighthound (where I've also bought them). Yes they take their own sweet time getting here. I've actually tested the capacities of several of them (built a special tester just for it which I've posted details of here 'bouts). Within reasonable limits the (mostly Panasonic) cells I've tested are right up to spec. Out of well over a dozen cells (from maybe half that number of buys?) I have yet to have a failure to perform as I expected.
I too have no problem recommending them based on personal experience. I'd avoid the '4000 mAh wonder cells' at any price from any source.
OF
Quetzalcoatl
DEADY GUERRERO/DIRT COBAIN/GEORGE KUSH
To touch quickly on this I saw some testing that showed some batteries labeled at 30a only give 10a. Like I said it may not be a huge deal here in this situation but it is when I want to pull 80% of those supposed 30 amps. @Pipes I'll see if I can dig the stuff up later, the guy that ran the testing had a super nice battery testing setup on a table.
OF
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I'd be very suspicious of 'doesn't deliver all the Amps they claim' claims unless I knew for sure the guy making the claim could deal with 30 Amp circuits. It takes very little in the way of stray resistance to cause that, much less than most guys can measure with the gear they own (even if they know how to use it). As single marginal connection or a short piece of too small a wire can put you out of the money toot sweet.
That is testing of this sort not trivial, considerable skill/experience is needed IMO. Lower currents are much easier to do well/reliably. 30 Amps is serious business.
I ran my tests at about four Amps IIRC, Cera levels. Here we need a fraction of that. Based on those tests, those batteries (really cells.....) from that source have done just fine for me. IMO good folks should not fear to tread......this time Pipes is right. Who could have guessed that one?
BTW, I just ordered a few of the battery boxes he recommended, they appear a better call than the ones I use (from Digikey) as they already have the internal connections made. All we need to do is solder a connector on, or splice on a short cable like I did (two connections only in either case). If fact, if you're brave (and careful) enough you can even get by without soldering (twisting and tape should carry the day). I'll have them in a few weeks, those wishing to have a lash at this are encouraged to order a couple (both as a spare/additional pack and as backup in case there's an accident with the first one, two bucks is cheap insurance IMO).
"Come on in, the water's fine".
OF
OF
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Some guys just heat the stem with a lighter until vapor forms. Others collect it on cotton (or cigarette papers) and vape that. Others dissolve the 'reclaim' in ISO then evaporate the ISO off on a dinner plate or similar. Others simply simmer their stem in milk/hot chocolate and enjoy it that way.
Each group has it's fans, and groups that think their way is better. I suggest you try them all and see what works best for you. One note of caution, if you go the 'happy coco way' you need serious milk fat. No skim milk, in fact a shot or two of cream makes it work IMO. Be careful with the drinking coco idea, it's easy to take more than you really should.....
OF
Detonator
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And well you should be. That's no doubt the total current capacity of all the 18650s or whatever are inside. At 3.6 Volts. Getting that to 12 will probably cost you something over 300%, that is one Ah will cost you 4 Ah of battery. If they're honest.
Another way to do it is to put 3 in series for 15 Volts total. The 'five volt only' ones are cheaper and probably more efficient at that single voltage (variable voltages are more of a compromise to cover the range).
OTOH my solution to this is sitting in front of my 'Solo warbag'.
3 protected 18650s in series, works great, simple. Normally it lives in a side pocket in the camera case. I made up several, AFAIK they all found happy homes. Somebody with ambition, modest soldering skills, some free time and a sense of adventure should make some?
OF
OK I want to know more.... Are you going to be making a 3 cell lipo to charge and use at the same time or is it just ment for back woods charging?
I run RC cars and I have 3 cell 3300 mah lipos like this ( but they also make bigger ones one maybe 6000 mah ) - http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__11949__Turnigy_nano_tech_3300mah_3S_35_70C_Lipo_Pack.html
Could these be used to port-ably charge my Solo?
Hey, thanks so much for getting back to me!
I didn't have a set routine with the Arizer, but I would never charge it for longer than two hours. Charging was always done on outlets where I was sitting with my laptop so I would know when charging was complete.
Sessions per? During this term, I stuck to using the Solo on weekends so it didn't interfere with school. So I would use it ~4-6 times in the span of two weeks then charge it when the battery was around 3 or lower.
A $50 battery to fix my solo isn't a major concern to me, I'll probably get another charger as well just to be safe.
Thank you again!
tdriver
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lol.... when I read the word "lipo" I knew........I fly RC Helis and planes btw...
...on topic,
3 cells are 11.1Volts, charger is 12v but you could get away with it and charge it, but calculate the amps you need.
you need as much amps as the batteries are rated for each charge + a bit more for the loss of power due to heat.
I can't remember the actual battery specs but if they are say 2000mah you would need a 11.1V 4000+mah pack to charge it twice.
I'm afraid it's worse than that. LiPo batteries are 3/3.2 volts compared to LIon at 3.6/3.7. Full charge is LiPo 3.7 v compared to Ion 4.2 v.
You have to remember that there is no regulator involved here so the batteries voltage is it.
Therefore, even using the ion cells are not likely using the full battery capacity from the donor battery. As they should be useful down to 3 volts or so before needed a charge. But to satisfy the receiving batteries charge circuit, that is too low.
So we want to make as much use of the discharge curve as possible.
Maybe 4 LiPos would be a better fit...?
OF can and likely will explain a bit clearer.
BTW, Yahoo, holidays and off to an Europe excursion for 10 days....Woot!!!!
Need the dry out as well.....
You have to remember that there is no regulator involved here so the batteries voltage is it.
Therefore, even using the ion cells are not likely using the full battery capacity from the donor battery. As they should be useful down to 3 volts or so before needed a charge. But to satisfy the receiving batteries charge circuit, that is too low.
So we want to make as much use of the discharge curve as possible.
Maybe 4 LiPos would be a better fit...?
OF can and likely will explain a bit clearer.
BTW, Yahoo, holidays and off to an Europe excursion for 10 days....Woot!!!!
Need the dry out as well.....