Arizer ArGo

[Zoppo]

If it's weak, the control just holds the heater on a little longer to make up for it.

It holds the heater on a little longer, means it lasts a little bit longer to reach the temperature.
So, if you have an Argo, no need for adventure-movies anymore, every evenig with the Atgo might be adventurous if the battery goes down, it heats more slowly and the question pops up: Will it reach the temperature or will it stop before? Mostly it reaches it! If not - take another fresh battery :-)

By the way, I think the Argo is really an inhouse-concurrent to the Solo II. In Germany the Solo II price dropped, it's now cheaper as the Argo: https://www.vapospy.de/m/arizer

 

[Jongaper]

Has any seen this, the plastic/rubbery material at the opening is peeling off in small bits

 

[Zoppo]

By the way, here is a "travelsuit" for one 18650 battery and three Argo-stems with stem-cap.
1 battery and stem in the Argo, a battery and stems in the box ... it could be a long journey :-)

https://www.amazon.de/dp/B017IBXX34/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_sQP2BbQSVFYC8

 

[Dynavaper]

It's interesting - The ArGo becomes more and more part of my daily routine. I was not overwhelmed by it at first and mostly preferred my Solo II (or e-Nano) when at home and other devices for outdoor activities.

But it is so easy to carry around, so unsuspicious to use, the changeable cells make it possible for me to use it a whole day long, even with heavy usage (easily 8-9 good sessions à 10min. each per cell) and - since I am no longer using screens and ground coarse instead - must admit that the main difference to the Solo II is the longer heat up time. They are a very close call to each other when it comes to tastiness and vapor production. And now, I often even grab the ArGo at home and leave the Solo II in its pouch. I wouldn't have thought that.

That's what I would call "love on second sight".
That tiny beast of a stealthy pocket vape sneaked into my life and is now here to stay.

One love!

 

[Lag]

My warranty replacement ArGo finally came in the mail. Took a week for it to go from northern California to Washington for some reason. The new unit's pop-top feels better built and the company that handles the warranties in the US included 2 new straight stems for the.... Solo? oh well. I got enough free stems from 420edc.

 

[cannabis.pro]

My warranty replacement ArGo finally came in the mail. Took a week for it to go from northern California to Washington for some reason. The new unit's pop-top feels better built and the company that handles the warranties in the US included 2 new straight stems for the.... Solo? oh well. I got enough free stems from 420edc.

We had a unit back in our hands in less than a week from Maine to Washington & back. Wonder what those postal workers are smoking up there in NorCal, lol.

The US Service center sent me a pair of 90mm Stems for the Air/Solo and it reintroduced me to the Air2 as I only used it with the plastic tipped mouthpiece and never looked in the box hard enough to see the other included mouthpiece was a 70mm all glass. The Air2 would have been a much better experience with the all glass mouthpiece from the get go for me, so the 90mm was a welcome addition.

 

[LabPong]

It's interesting - The ArGo becomes more and more part of my daily routine. I was not overwhelmed by it at first and mostly preferred my Solo II (or e-Nano) when at home and other devices for outdoor activities.

But it is so easy to carry around, so unsuspicious to use, the changeable cells make it possible for me to use it a whole day long, even with heavy usage (easily 8-9 good sessions à 10min. each per cell) and - since I am no longer using screens and ground coarse instead - must admit that the main difference to the Solo II is the longer heat up time. They are a very close call to each other when it comes to tastiness and vapor production. And now, I often even grab the ArGo at home and leave the Solo II in its pouch. I wouldn't have thought that.

That's what I would call "love on second sight".
That tiny beast of a stealthy pocket vape sneaked into my life and is now here to stay.

One love!

+1 Dynavaper

The Argo really has grown on me after owning it for several months now. I have several extra cells....life is good with the Argo!

 

[IntoTheVoid]

It's interesting - The ArGo becomes more and more part of my daily routine. I was not overwhelmed by it at first and mostly preferred my Solo II (or e-Nano) when at home and other devices for outdoor activities.

But it is so easy to carry around, so unsuspicious to use, the changeable cells make it possible for me to use it a whole day long, even with heavy usage (easily 8-9 good sessions à 10min. each per cell) and - since I am no longer using screens and ground coarse instead - must admit that the main difference to the Solo II is the longer heat up time. They are a very close call to each other when it comes to tastiness and vapor production. And now, I often even grab the ArGo at home and leave the Solo II in its pouch. I wouldn't have thought that.

That's what I would call "love on second sight".
That tiny beast of a stealthy pocket vape sneaked into my life and is now here to stay.

One love!

Same for me. With my other vapes, I assumed the Argo would just be my “out and about” vape. But over the last little bit I seem to grab it just as much around the house too. It might become my desert island vape at this point. Lol

 

[NiceInvasion]

I was wondering if someone has come up with a good solution for the potential odor from an open loaded stem installed in the ArGo. So far I've just been carrying a couple of pre-loaded sealed aroma tubes and installing them as needed. I know you can just leave the protective cover down and cap on the stem, but I'd love some way to cap it with the cover up.

 

[IntoTheVoid]

I was wondering if someone has come up with a good solution for the potential odor from an open loaded stem installed in the ArGo. So far I've just been carrying a couple of pre-loaded sealed aroma tubes and installing them as needed. I know you can just leave the protective cover down and cap on the stem, but I'd love some way to cap it with the cover up.

I’ve never noticed an odour, even with some stinky bud, especially when it’s in your pocket. Is it bad with your bud?

 

[cannabis.pro]

I was wondering if someone has come up with a good solution for the potential odor from an open loaded stem installed in the ArGo. So far I've just been carrying a couple of pre-loaded sealed aroma tubes and installing them as needed. I know you can just leave the protective cover down and cap on the stem, but I'd love some way to cap it with the cover up.

I never use my Push Top Glass Protection, I would if you could get it to pop over the cap which I prefer to use. One less mechanical thing to not have to worry about wearing out, probably good to pop it once in a while if you pocket the device and get lint building up in the crevices. This is not much help I know, just throwing out my 2¢.

 

[OF]

I was wondering if someone has come up with a good solution for the potential odor from an open loaded stem installed in the ArGo.

I know you can just leave the protective cover down and cap on the stem, but I'd love some way to cap it with the cover up.

Sure have, a 'industry standard' vinyl cap for one by two inch ('square') tubing. Here's a link to a photo of mine with one on top, and another lying beside it:
https://imgur.com/2NaxN8V

I also use normal round ones to cap the ends of loaded stems for travel, very handy:
https://imgur.com/dypyHdD

OF

 

[IntoTheVoid]

I think in a pocket with nothing else, the pop-top is kinda pointless. It doesn’t catch on anything and I don’t think it could break unless you are 300lbs wearing 29 waist jeans. It is good if you’re tossing it in pack or purse though. But those little caps are cool. You can use a foam earplug too.

 

[LabPong]

Ok....after a few days of testing....I am totally stoked and could not be more satisfied with the new curved mp bubblers. They make the Argo experience even better than the straight version one. I can hold my neck at a horizontal level now and can actually look slightly upwards at my monitors and TV while vaping and have no neck strain/pain. With my back issues this is always a problem to get the right angle of mp to vape. I can no longer use a straight tube water rig for instance.

Thanks for making this happen 420EDC !

I can now use my Argo in bed when I have sleep/pain issues and need to medicate quickly. But just using the curved mp bubbler when sitting or standing is so much easier now as well, verses the straight type mp's.

Another thing that I like is the curved tip is slightly smaller than the regular straight one. I enjoy this even more because it makes my jaw relax when vaping compared to the larger funnel type mp's on glass rigs that I use otherwise. You can also do mouth pulls really easy..almost like drawing on a J or something. I can take longer draws more easily because of this too. This really makes the vaping experience so much more comfortable and tons more enjoyable doing back to back loads if needed.....or just doing many through out the day.

The stem also makes holding the argo easier as you can use the tip angle to what ever angle feels like a sweet spot when you hold it up to draw. I use a couple different ways to hang on to the vape normally, but now..I have a certain angle to the vape where it feels more balanced and comfortable. I rarely use the wpa and a separate water rig with the argo now.

I really suggest you try this new curved mp bubbler stem for your Argo.

 

[cannabis.pro]

@LabPong thank you for the support! Glad the new mouthpiece on the Bubbler is helping you better utilize the ArGo to fit your needs!!

 

[Lag]

I've been really tempted to buy that bubbler piece. Probably will eventually.

 

[NiceInvasion]

How long does a bowl take in the ArGo if you're actively hitting it pretty hard rather than just sipping?

 

[IntoTheVoid]

How long does a bowl take in the ArGo if you're actively hitting it pretty hard rather than just sipping?

I can clear a bowl to a nice brown in 10 minutes at 390 if I’m givin’ er. I usually don’t do this but I have. It depends on how tight you pack too. The looser the pack the quicker you’re gonna go through it. Also how tight you pack it changes the convection/conduction action. Tighter packed bud holds the temp longer and doesn’t cook the bud as evenly. Anytime someone complains that the bottom gets brown before the top and they have to stir, is packing too tight. A medium loose pack has better airflow and cooks evenly. And you’ll go through the bowl faster. Plus you’ll get better convection action.

 

[NiceInvasion]

Thanks, that's pretty much in line with what I've been finding in my sessions.

 

[Zoppo]

With the Solo II, first I vape the material around 347°F, after the session ends i stear the material and vape it again around 388°, this worked fine.

I wrote about, that cause of the heating during the first session, there was the possibility that an amount of THC is degrading to CBN. And than I found this: https://archive.org/stream/CannabisHazekampThesis/Cannabis - Extracting the Medicine - Hazekamp Thesis_djvu.txt There is also a pdf in the internet, You may look for!

The important statement:

"The heating temperature is about 180°C and samples are heated for several minutes. To obtain the
neutral cannabinoid ∆9-THC, initially a small amount of THCA was decarboxylated at 180°C
for 5 minutes in an oven.

However, after analysis by GC it was found that a considerable
amount of ∆8-THC had formed during the heating process. The structural isomers ∆8
- and ∆9-THC could not be well separated by the CPC system used (data not shown). It was also noted
that an increasing amount of CBN was formed during the heating period because of
oxidation. Subsequently ∆9-THC was isolated directly from the neutral cannabinoids fraction.
But given the low abundance of neutral cannabinoids in the extracts, only a small amount of
∆9-THC could be isolated. The observed degradation of THCA into CBN was subsequently
exploited for the isolation of CBN, since the plant material used was naturally very low in
CBN content.

Cause of this, all people with Insomnia, should give this two sessions a try.

 

[Marcus]

Hi folks, I'm on the verge of buying an ArGo - thanks to all on this thread!

I have a mighty but I'm not a fan of the flavour it produces (it's plastic tasting) also a few of it's other 'quirks'. Plus medicating with it seems to keep me awake at night, even the heaviest Indicas. Reading what you have said @Zoppo regarding your insomnia, do you (did you) find the same thing with the mighty? I get the feeling you're happier with the ArGo. I struggle with insomnia and the mighty just doesn't help with that. Yes it gets me really spanked still, but I'm sat wide awake.

I'm interested in the ArGo also because of the glass path and it's stealthy portability for the dog walks. I have an SSV and Elev8r and the flavour from those knocks the mighty back into the kitchen draw all the time, plus I seem to sleep a little better using those, but I'm thinking precise temps would help.

So I think I'm writing this trying to convince myself to buy an ArGo, of which I've successfully done.

I'm UK based and black friday is coming up, does anyone think it's worth waiting to order? They're about £165ish at the moment with a few discount codes floating around.

Thanks

M

 

[sapetoku]

I'm UK based and black friday is coming up, does anyone think it's worth waiting to order? They're about £165ish at the moment with a few discount codes floating around.

There's already 25% off on everything on the arizer.com site, black friday will maybe bring it to 30%.

 

[Marcus]

There's already 25% off on everything on the arizer.com site, black friday will maybe bring it to 30%.

Thanks, with the exchange rate it's cheaper for me to just get one here in the UK at the moment, saves having to pay import taxes on it and arguing with FedEx about their 'stealth' handling fee too.

 

[Zoppo]

Reading what you have said @Zoppo regarding your insomnia, do you (did you) find the same thing with the mighty? I

I used the mighty for more than a half year and it NEVER worked like the Solo. That's why I bought the Solo II.
Also I don't know exactly, if the Argo can give the same effect as the Solo II. I used the Argo for more than a month, the effect depending on the sleep was o.k. I could reach 5 hours and more of sleep. Three days ago I changed to the Solo II again and? 7 hours! But the next night? 4 1/2 hours and last night 5 1/2 hours.

Actually I'm testing the Solo II again, to find the best sessionlength. I can't remember the sessionlength I used the first evening, but the day after I changed it to 15 minutes - maybe this was to long? This is the reason I'll try every sessionlength for a week now - started yesterday with 10 Minutes, which gave me 1 session at 178° C and 2 at 198°C with the same material = 5 1/2 hours.

Back to the Argo, it works similar, but not in the same way. I think the Argo has more conduction goin on. The taste is definitely thinner, but holds longer. So after I checked the Solo II for sessionlength, I will start the same test with the Argo, to get the maximum out of this device. The Solo II is my reference, cause I'm using it much more longer, but I still not tested it in every possibel way, that's why I changed to the Solo II again. If I finished whith the testcicle, I will go back to the Argo for testing the optimum sessionlength.

I think this kind of vaping will not/never work with the Mighty. The Solo and the Argo have a lot more conduction goin on, cause of their construction. The chamber of the Mighty is upon the oven, the chamber of the Arizers are stucked in the oven. Cause of this the material in the Arizers will cook a little bit continously - the mighty seems to be more on the convection-side.

Actuallly I would say, give the Solo II a try, cause I know it works. The Argo works also for Insomnia, but I'm still testing and comparing ... maybe in a month I can tell, if there is a difference and why, actually I only think, the Argo has more conduction goin on compared to the Solo. Which means I have to check the impact of the sessionlength with the Argo also - if there is more conduction goin on, the sessionlength may have to be shorter.

Time will tell ... rearly

By the way, I'm using to different strains in the evening, some type of medical lemon haze for pain and medical Jack Herer (Bedrocan). Bedrocan was the only strain for three years and it worked fine. With my type of vaping it doesn't matter realy, which strain I use. The only difference, the lemon makes me sleepy faster, jack makes me sleep longer. Actually I'm using 2 stems of lemon and one stem of jack, but I'm still testing: first lemon, than jack, than lemon again ore jack at last. First three sessions on the low temperature, the higher sessions at last? And so on. Not to forget the shedule? Between every session I pause for a quarter of an hour or more, typically I need 3 hours to end all sessions- than lights of and I sleep typically in 5 minutes.

I think at the beginning of december I will change again to test the optimal sessionlength for the Argo.

 

[Marcus]

Thanks for that post @Zoppo very interesting.

I would like the ArGo as a portable mainly for waddling around the streets whilst walking the dog, but your detailed description has me thinking it may become an evening vape too. I'd like a solo ii or an air ii, but I think they are not really for shoving in my pocket when I want some me and dog (and vape) time. The glass pathway is definitely on my want list thanks to my elev8r this is also why I'm pondering the ArGo.

Alas, here in the UK we don't have access to medical weed - even though our Prime Minister and Drug Ministers husbands both have a hand in growing it for their own financial gain - so it's a case of whatever I can get my hands on really and it all seems to be cash cropper junk full of chemicals.

Thanks again for your information, I'm going to order one and experiment. Might sell the mighty and get an Air or Solo if the ArGo all works out well.

:-)