Arizer ArGo

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Lamont

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Ok, I've had my ArGo for a couple days now and so far I've been able to vape 4 or 5 bowls. Here are my first impressions.

  • This thing is tiny. I was expecting it to be small but you really notice it when you have the thing in your hand. Very portable and concealable.
  • Despite the materials, it feels VERY solid and well made in your hand. As Troy says in his video, you can definitely hurt somebody with this vape. :rofl:
  • The pop up part is possibly the only exception, we shall see....I feel like I might not be using it much. As Kermitt mentioned above, it's easy to put one of the silcone caps on top of the glass tube and feel like things are relatively well protected. For now I just pull out the aroma tubes and store them in the plastic tubes provided.
  • Flavor is awesome. Definitely better than my existing CFX, and it lasts much longer during the session.
  • Loving the removeable glass stem system. So easy to load compared to my CFX, and so easy to keep clean.
One thing I've noticed is I sometimes get a small amount of water condensing inside the aroma tube and dripping down into the load. The vapor then becomes "steamy" Anyone else experience this or do I just need to stop drooling? :lol:

All in all, I'm loving it so far. If you can justify the price, highly recommended.
 
OF

OF

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Lamont said:
One thing I've noticed is I sometimes get a small amount of water condensing inside the aroma tube and dripping down into the load. The vapor then becomes "steamy" Anyone else experience this or do I just need to stop drooling? :lol:
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Yes it happens when the water vapor (what 'comes off first') hits glass cool enough to condense it still. It's a 'start of session' thing that goes away as the glass heats and all the water is driven out of the load on the way to 390F.

Later on you'll probably note that a thin layer of condensate on the inside of the glass gets that old 'oil and water' thing going and seriously 'beads up' as the water condenses. It gets 'cloudy' for a bit.

Enjoy the ArGo, it's doing fine. You might consider vinyl caps for the stem transport, it keeps the load firmly in place as it protects stuff:
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OF
 
horst

horst

horsed
Can I use any 18650 battery with the ArGo or does it demand exactly the type it ships with?
I'm new to the 18650 thing and the tubo evic seems to demand a specific type. Since I stocked up on Samsung Q30s recently I wonder if I could use them with the ArGo?
 
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CL52613

CL52613

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For the long time Arizer vapers out tbere, that have not stepped up to the 2 in either the Solo or Air, does the Argo equal them? If it does, did your choice of which one to buy, become more difficult? Carol King would love to hear your valued opinion as to which you would want first if you did not have the Solo 2 already? The unit chosen will be a daily driver for home use. I do like the batteries for the Argo being easy to replace. One accessory Arizer or some other entrepreneur should design and offer, is a glass spacer for the bottom of the glass chamber. It could have feet so it would not be in full contact with the heater. This would also change the heating to 100% convection. I do not understand why such a great vaporizer company does not offer smaller sized chambers for their vaporizers.
 
NizzyJones

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I don't have any performance issues with half-packing (or less) in the Air. Some people use dome screens for that but I haven't found it to be necessary. Don't see why that wouldn't be the same in the ArGo.
 
whateverman

whateverman

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CL52613 said:
For the long time Arizer vapers out tbere, that have not stepped up to the 2 in either the Solo or Air, does the Argo equal them? If it does, did your choice of which one to buy, become more difficult? Carol King would love to hear your valued opinion as to which you would want first if you did not have the Solo 2 already? The unit chosen will be a daily driver for home use. I do like the batteries for the Argo being easy to replace. One accessory Arizer or some other entrepreneur should design and offer, is a glass spacer for the bottom of the glass chamber. It could have feet so it would not be in full contact with the heater. This would also change the heating to 100% convection. I do not understand why such a great vaporizer company does not offer smaller sized chambers for their vaporizers.
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I only have my Solo 1 and I still use it few times a week. LOVE THIS THING. I haven't tried the 2 and none of the Airs. When the Argo will arrive I will be answering this question.


NizzyJones said:
I don't have any performance issues with half-packing (or less) in the Air. Some people use dome screens for that but I haven't found it to be necessary. Don't see why that wouldn't be the same in the ArGo.
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I don't like using screens in my Solo, since I find it hinders performance. Pure glass experience is the optimal way to vaporizer.
 
Just Justin

Just Justin

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Anyone seen any after market stems for the Argo, like the black glass stems for Air/Solo or a longer stem or bent stem would be cool...? Also a stem with a smaller chamber would be helpful
 
datayoda

datayoda

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My vote would be for a stem that has slightly thicker lips like the one that come standard with the mistvape touch. Thus a tad longer and a bit sturdier would be great.

I actually really like the chamber size on the Argo stems. It's just right for me.
 
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OF

OF

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530rasta said:
Just pulled the trigger, thanks fc as always, especially OF
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Great, I'm sure you won't be disappointed. I just used mine again a few hours ago in fact and can confirm it still works just fine........

Not as flexible as Solo/Air perhaps but it's got the 'tiny little vape' thing down and delivers like it's bigger brothers. I still am awkward with it trying to find a casual grip that doesn't involve the hot corner, no big deal......I just need more practice I figure.

Anyway, not begins the hard part, the wait. And checking. And waiting some more. Finally you get to stalk a Federal Official, carefully.

Enjoy your ArGo. How's that for useless advice?

OF
 
530rasta

530rasta

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How about a foam earplug to use as a plug on top of the mouthpiece when its in pocket or storage. Seems like it would be easy to take out and reuse and would keep sturdy enough to keep lint and dust out
 
OF

OF

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530rasta said:
How about a foam earplug to use as a plug on top of the mouthpiece when its in pocket or storage. Seems like it would be easy to take out and reuse and would keep sturdy enough to keep lint and dust out
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It's been suggested and tried. IMO it works OK, but tends to catch going into your pocket and get pulled out (not much holding it, really). I tried cutting it down so not so much foam was sticking out to catch and it got pressed in too far to pluck out. A string through it fixes that......

Overall I think the cover idea has merit. I forget who suggested it, but these worked well:
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I'm using that currently. Otherwise, if you want to leave the stem up, vinyl caps seem to work better. They're more compact and not prone to popping off the stem:
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That's a loaded, capped stem (for travel). If you're going to use it as a cap for the one in the ArGo instead, cut the cap to about half length (razor blade or scissors).

Corks and rubber stoppers (Number 2?) also work, but not as well as the vinyl caps IMO.

OF
 
530rasta

530rasta

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That is a cool case, do you have a link for that thing?

Im curious who has ordered straight from the Arizer website. I put the order in Tuesday and still havnt gotten shipping info. Was hoping to have it by monday.

update: looks like monday is the eta
 
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cannabis.pro

cannabis.pro

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530rasta said:
That is a cool case, do you have a link for that thing?

Im curious who has ordered straight from the Arizer website. I put the order in Tuesday and still havnt gotten shipping info. Was hoping to have it by monday.
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420EDC Mini Case
On the case, only the clear variant will fit the ArGo, if you must have the black, you will have to remove the foam liner and then use some ISO to ungum and remove any of the foam's glue.

As for Arizer, not sure what they have been up to in regards to fulfillment.
 
OF

OF

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whateverman said:
Should I fully charge the unit as soon as I get the device?
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Yes.

Generally considered good advice for this class of 'batteries'. Important to fully charge (many sources recommend 'overcharging' several hours after charging stops) before the first serious discharge (heating), this determines the maximum capacity ever, it will only go down from there throughout it's useful lifespan.

Not so important with easily replaced cells like with ArGo (as opposed to say Solo) but doing so gives you best possible performance over time.

I know it's tough, but I recommend 'overnight' charges for such new gear. After that best battery life actually comes from not completely charging, counter intuitive as that is. For instance, stopping 10% early (4.1 not 4.2 Volts) DOUBLES the cycle life. Double. Drop that to 20% and you now get a nominal 1200, not 300, cycles. Four times as many. Avoiding 'hitting bottom' is important as well.

FWIW I understand Tesla recommends this (avoid full discharge and full charge for best battery lifespan). There the battery packs (also made of 18650s BTW) cost a lot more than here......

Short answer, yes, fully charge (even overcharge) before any serious use. If you 'cheat', forget it, it no longer matters. First time. After that avoid full charge and full discharge for longest life.

BTW, don't store them at 100%, that alone will kill them over time. 60 or 70% is proper, which is why your unit should not come fully charged, which is why you have to do it?

Good stuff on the topic here:
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries

OF
 
horst

horst

horsed
OF said:
Yes.
For instance, stopping 10% early (4.1 not 4.2 Volts) DOUBLES the cycle life. Double. Drop that to 20% and you now get a nominal 1200, not 300, cycles. Four times as many. Avoiding 'hitting bottom' is important as well.

FWIW I understand Tesla recommends this (avoid full discharge and full charge for best battery lifespan).
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Thanks for these details. But this starts me wondering why the manufacturers leave these noteworthy circumstances to the user? As a manufacturer it should be an easy task to stop charging a cell at 90% and shut off a device at 10%. This should make the battery handling a lot easier for the users and improve device reliability, espacially for the devices with built in batteries.

So as a Tesla Engineer I would scratch my head for what it's worth to give out such recommendations instead of changing firmware to do this automatically for their customers satisfaction. Even a toggle in menues should be easily manageable, trading distance for longlivety as a choice for the user.

Maybe such electronic regulation is already implemented and we would just care more then necessary with this behaviour?
 
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