Arizer ArGo

[OF]

The clouds are definitely larger. I like the open side of the dome facing the oven.

I use these guys in both Solo/Air and ArGo, although it takes some fiddling to get it in (they're designed for the larger diameter Solo):

https://www.ebay.com/itm/200981331675?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

'Dome up' (into the load) they reduce the load by about 1/3 (1/2 in Solo/Air) but have a much larger area so don't foul nearly as fast. Fun how less herb gives thicker hits this way (but less of them, of course). Heat soaks seem somewhat less important as well? I sip non stop sometimes......

Dome down it still has the low fouling thing going for it, but I find no increase of vapor production (even with more herb?) like the other way, but it does last longer.

Regards to all.

OF

 

[ATLelbow]

I use these guys in both Solo/Air and ArGo, although it takes some fiddling to get it in (they're designed for the larger diameter Solo):

https://www.ebay.com/itm/200981331675?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

'Dome up' (into the load) they reduce the load by about 1/3 (1/2 in Solo/Air) but have a much larger area so don't foul nearly as fast. Fun how less herb gives thicker hits this way (but less of them, of course). Heat soaks seem somewhat less important as well? I sip non stop sometimes......

Dome down it still has the low fouling thing going for it, but I find no increase of vapor production (even with more herb?) like the other way, but it does last longer.

Regards to all.

OF

Excellent information. Good to know. Surprised that with dome down vapor production does not increase since it is closer to the heat source. Still fiddling with the Argo trying to find the exact groove.

 

[OF]

Excellent information. Good to know. Surprised that with dome down vapor production does not increase since it is closer to the heat source. Still fiddling with the Argo trying to find the exact groove.

Actually it's further due to the screen layer blocking flow to the top half of the load slowing the conduction into it. SS is a poor conductor (and mesh only makes it worse due to fine wires with little direct contact with the glass?), really, but having the herb closer to the cup (even though the glass is still there) seems to aid production loaded normally. It includes a bit more herb without the screen keeping herb out of the corners (where it's well heated so it contributes more than with the screen?

Experiment around, find what works best for you. Sometimes changing strain or cure can call for a different technique as well.

Regards to all.

OF

 

[Bravesst]

I can attest to the thick cl0udage this produces. I do the exact same thing, cut bowl size in half, pack a little tighter. The smaller size load last for at least one 15 minute session (or maybe two tens, three sevens, or whatever I'm in the mood for). The performance is a game changer, and I'm surprised Arizer doesn't include these. I always have lots on hand, but ironically, they rarely need to be changed, or even cleaned.

I use these guys in both Solo/Air and ArGo, although it takes some fiddling to get it in (they're designed for the larger diameter Solo):

https://www.ebay.com/itm/200981331675?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

'Dome up' (into the load) they reduce the load by about 1/3 (1/2 in Solo/Air) but have a much larger area so don't foul nearly as fast. Fun how less herb gives thicker hits this way (but less of them, of course). Heat soaks seem somewhat less important as well? I sip non stop sometimes......

Dome down it still has the low fouling thing going for it, but I find no increase of vapor production (even with more herb?) like the other way, but it does last longer.

Regards to all.

OF

 

[Dynavaper]

I also changed my loading technique some time ago to only use half of the bowl (no extra spacer or dome screen) and am under the impression that the vapor tastes better (a bit more convection than conduction style) that way.

 

[ATLelbow]

I can attest to the thick cl0udage this produces. I do the exact same thing, cut bowl size in half, pack a little tighter. The smaller size load last for at least one 15 minute session (or maybe two tens, three sevens, or whatever I'm in the mood for). The performance is a game changer, and I'm surprised Arizer doesn't include these. I always have lots on hand, but ironically, they rarely need to be changed, or even cleaned.

Great. Thanks for the tips and techniques. I was getting disappointed in cloud size from Argo. Also, cutting bowl size in half is good as i like to microdose. Thays why I often just go for my vapman either manually or with the station. One vapman bowl in the station gives many pulls from very little material.

Anyone have experience with Zeus Arc. Just ordered one non Gt (non gold). Gold was 80 dollars more and i am skeptical that it really makes any difference. Ended up ordering Zeus Arc for 150 from Tvape.com

 

[cannabis.pro]

First post... Extra thanks to @cannabis.pro - ordered that sweet bundle deal from 420EDC, super excited to get it!

Sorry I missed your post until now. Haven't been on FC in a minute due to moving to a new space & getting a hard drive replaced. Now I'm back and hope you received your unit quickly, safely and most importantly that you are enjoying the device. Many thanks for your support!

Welcome to FC

 

[omnimodeus]

Anyone worried about smell should try the Formline wallet case. Holds Argo, extra battery, and stems with ease, padding, and no smell. I usually use their cases for all my needs.
Any tips on achieving bigger clouds from the Argo ? Should I pack it fuller ? Going about halfway to 3/4 with a light tamp currently. Also, when I am done I find material inside the device that has fallen from tube. I am scared to pack it too tight and I am running out of material to keep experimenting with

soft case from DaVinci IQ is also fit for Argo and few extra stems or battery...just press it little bit with pinkey and herbs will not fall off

 

[zeebudz]

Wowowow! Just got an Argo and am diggin' it! Bought it largely because I moved away from oil carts and wanted something self contained and compact and stealthy (though vaping herb isn't nose stealthy). Wonderful temp control, love the way you can pack a stem and securely store it in the unit for an on-the-go session. Can heat up, get some good hits, and shutdown within a couple of minutes. Nice!

Big fan of Arizer. Have an Extreme Q, original Solo, and an Air, and now another Air from their bogo deal...

 

[aire joredinz]

Whenever I pack the stem, some of the herb clings to the outside like it's held there by static electricity. Does this happen to anyone else or is it just me?

 

[Dan B]

Whenever I pack the stem, some of the herb clings to the outside like it's held there by static electricity. Does this happen to anyone else or is it just me?

Yup, and it happens even more when I unload. Never really bothered me though.

 

[janusportal]

I don't get why this vape doesn't get more love. I know it's the mini of the family but having a user-replaceable battery at that size is amazing. If they made the baskets for the Argo that would make it pretty much perfect.

What sort of session times/heats do people use? I'm not sure I'm getting the most out of mine.

 

[OF]

If they made the baskets for the Argo that would make it pretty much perfect.

What sort of session times/heats do people use? I'm not sure I'm getting the most out of mine.

I agree. IMO (and apparently yours?) ArGo is a much more successful smaller version of Solo than Air is. Personal call, of course, but ArGo fits in the pocket (and my 'needs') better.

Not sure what you mean by 'baskets'. The screens for Solo fit OK but you have to play with them some to get the diameter down (I use the base of a 'Sharpie'). And FM dosing capsules work fairly well, if that's what you mean?

I tend to use the same basic settings as Solo. 12 minute sessions (?) and 390F for herb. Higher (say 410 or even 415) for concentrates or WTs. But you should experiment to find the technique you prefer......not follow some random guy on Al Gore's Internet.

But I agree, for 'grab and go' use ArGo is a better call than Air. And if I'm going nowhere particular, Solo gets the nod.

Regards to all.

OF

 

[Maryjanie]

I need help with Argo. I just got it and I had read that the Fury 2 dosing capsules work and help keep it cleaner. I have an Air so I understand loading, cleaning, use, etc. My only concern is that part of my decision in purchasing the Argo was being able to use the dosing capsules to keep the oven clean bc it's so deep down inside the device. Well, I cant find the capsules for sale anywhere in the USA or Canada. I'm in the US. This sux. My Argo is still brand new sitting here bc I want to keep it clean from day 1. Do any of you know of any other brand of capsules or any method using a screen etc that will accomplish this?

 

[jardri]

I need help with Argo. I just got it and I had read that the Fury 2 dosing capsules work and help keep it cleaner. I have an Air so I understand loading, cleaning, use, etc. My only concern is that part of my decision in purchasing the Argo was being able to use the dosing capsules to keep the oven clean bc it's so deep down inside the device. Well, I cant find the capsules for sale anywhere in the USA or Canada. I'm in the US. This sux. My Argo is still brand new sitting here bc I want to keep it clean from day 1. Do any of you know of any other brand of capsules or any method using a screen etc that will accomplish this?

In the Argo you dont need capsules to keep the oven clean. The only thing that gets clogged is the stem, and you can clean it with iso or just scrape the honey out of it (my favourite method)

 

[OF]

I need help with Argo. I just got it and I had read that the Fury 2 dosing capsules work and help keep it cleaner.

Well, I cant find the capsules for sale anywhere in the USA or Canada

First off, only the bottom part of the F2 capsules will fit, so it's at best a basket screen? And not easy to extract therefore. Both HR and PIU sell them, so I can't understand why you can't buy them:
https://www.puffitup.com/Healthy-Rips-Fury-2-Dosing-Capsule-Set-p/hr.fury-2_pods.htm

Edge capsules are too big (like the cap for F2 ones).

However, if you get the ones for the FMs, they fit with the covers, and are IMO a superior design in that the covers actually screw on (so don't spill). They are a bit longer than ArGo's bowl (under 1/8 inch) but work fine.
https://www.puffitup.com/Healthy-Rips-Fury-2-Dosing-Capsule-Set-p/hr.fury-2_pods.htm

Remember, SS of any sort in the heat path will slow the heating (which is by conduction, not convection, so it matters). Not a deal breaker, IMO, but capsules will lower the size of the load and increase the need for 'heat soaks'.......both of which further limits performance. I find loading bubble hash (or old school pressed hash) in the capsules offsets this and gives lovely vapor for several sessions at 415F.

Regards to all.

OF

 

[Maryjanie]

First off, only the bottom part of the F2 capsules will fit, so it's at best a basket screen? And not easy to extract therefore. Both HR and PIU sell them, so I can't understand why you can't buy them:
https://www.puffitup.com/Healthy-Rips-Fury-2-Dosing-Capsule-Set-p/hr.fury-2_pods.htm

Go look. They are OUT OF STOCK everywhere. That's why I cant buy them. But thanks for the info.

 

[torkwench13]

My ArGo came with a few screens for the tubes, but I haven't used them yet. I find my oven stays bright and shiny no matter how much I use it. I just blow the dust out and get on with it. Once in a while perhaps a little bit of herb gets stuck on the bottom so I use a little soft artist's brush and right out it goes. The tubes get all gunked up but the oven stays clean! Hope this helps!

I almost forgot to add that not over packing the bowl and holding ArGo upside down for the first couple a hits keeps the oven cleaner as bits can't fall to the bottom.

 

[Maryjanie]

My ArGo came with a few screens for the tubes, but I haven't used them yet. I find my oven stays bright and shiny no matter how much I use it. I just blow the dust out and get on with it. Once in a while perhaps a little bit of herb gets stuck on the bottom so I use a little soft artist's brush and right out it goes. The tubes get all gunked up but the oven stays clean! Hope this helps!

I almost forgot to add that not over packing the bowl and holding ArGo upside down for the first couple a hits keeps the oven cleaner as bits can't fall to the bottom.

Thank you for the artist brush tip. I'm going to go ahead and fire her up and get on with it. My Air oven is still pristine after 5 yrs. I was just worried about being able to get down in this one if need be.

 

[torkwench13]

You're very welcome! I just let it cool down and only if I have to I gently use my brush. Enjoy!

 

[Kurtdigglur]

I just received a brand new argo. I looked up the battery before I received it. I went and bought some Panasonic 18650b batteries only to realize after getting the Argo that they now have Samsun 35e batteries in there. Will I be alright to use the Panasonic and the Samsung without ruining my vape? Would Arizer know if I used the Panasonic batteries at all if I need RMA?

 

[OF]

I just received a brand new argo. I looked up the battery before I received it. I went and bought some Panasonic 18650b batteries only to realize after getting the Argo that they now have Samsun 35e batteries in there. Will I be alright to use the Panasonic and the Samsung without ruining my vape? Would Arizer know if I used the Panasonic batteries at all if I need RMA?

They should be just fine since they meet the original specs. The Samsung unit should provide (very) slightly longer charge life, under 10%. Probably not useful measured in 'sessions' (since it's a small fraction of an extra session).

Enjoy your new vape, it's a good one.

OF

 

[Kurtdigglur]

They should be just fine since they meet the original specs. The Samsung unit should provide (very) slightly longer charge life, under 10%. Probably not useful measured in 'sessions' (since it's a small fraction of an extra session).

Enjoy your new vape, it's a good one.

OF

Thanks I feel a lot better about it now. It is a great vape, only used it once because I’m starting a small T break.

 

[ataxian]

They should be just fine since they meet the original specs. The Samsung unit should provide (very) slightly longer charge life, under 10%. Probably not useful measured in 'sessions' (since it's a small fraction of an extra session).

Enjoy your new vape, it's a good one.

OF

Your the most knowledgeable about this hobby!
I’m looking for a new small portable?
Battery powered

 

[OF]

Your the most knowledgeable about this hobby!
I’m looking for a new small portable?
Battery powered

Yeah, other guys have a life I'm told. Long as I'm here, happy to share what I know. Thanks for the kind words.

ArGo is neat for sure. Better IMO than Air for being a 'small Solo'. But, if you're after tiny as practical, I'll stick with the answer other vape you asked about. I won't mention the name here, leads to all sorts of abuse sometimes......you can get called all sorts of names for the sin of recommending a different vape, or at least I have.

If you don't know which other vape we're not talking about, PM me?

OF