Anyone ever combine multiple vapes together in one session to produce a desired signature?

[borbjorbis]

I have to confess – every once in a while, I go a couple days where I primarily smoke joints, and every time I can't help but get this nagging thought that maybe, after all the money and time I've spent on vapes, maybe I still prefer the high from smoking joints over any other consumption method.

This thought overwhelms me with dread. I'm being dramatic, obviously, but I am genuinely annoyed by the possibility that I prefer the signature of smoking a joint over any single device I own. And for me, especially in recent years as I've transitioned to microdosing, signature has become my primary criteria for evaluating vapes, over flavor and cloud production.

But all of this also makes me wonder: even if I prefer the signature of a joint to any single device of mine, maybe there's a way that I can approximate the feeling a joint by using multiple devices in rapid succession. I say rapid succession because I believe that I feel the signature of a given consumption method most profoundly at the initial onset, and so the goal here would be to create one single hybrid signature, rather than layer signatures.

I don't really see much discussion on FC about pairing specific vapes together in a single session to bring out the best signature, but there might be some real untapped potential there.

So with all this in mind I wanted to ask the class: how would you describe the signature from a joint, on the scales from conduction to convection, stony to heady, dark to bright, and mellow to euphoric? For me a joint feels closest to hybrid vapes, but with an extra bit of bite and euphoria.

Do you have any thoughts on devices you could pair together to replicate that feeling? Also just curious if there are any vapes you all think complement each other really well in a single session.

My current theory is that if I hit a more conduction-heavy hybrid, and then top it off with some light convection, I'll be able to get close to the feeling of a joint. My friend has a Prrl Labs Neo I'm waiting to borrow – I tried it once a month or so back, and for some reason I have this feeling that it'll be be just the convection device I need to give my high that extra bit of bite and euphoria.

 

[invertedisdead]

I don't really see much discussion on FC about pairing specific vapes together in a single session to bring out the best signature, but there might be some real untapped potential there.

That used to be popular back in the day on FC, we used to call it a "gauntlet"

AntiSpleen's Gauntlet Challenge! 11 Vapes 1 session!

My great friend @antispleen made a gauntlet video some time ago. After that my friend troy @ohmygodimsohigh made this video. It looked like fun so I had to make my own. I've been meaning to share it since then but have not for some reason. Today I felt like posting it so I am! After...

fuckcombustion.com

 

[greenganja]

That used to be popular back in the day on FC, we used to call it a "gauntlet"

AntiSpleen's Gauntlet Challenge! 11 Vapes 1 session!

My great friend @antispleen made a gauntlet video some time ago. After that my friend troy @ohmygodimsohigh made this video. It looked like fun so I had to make my own. I've been meaning to share it since then but have not for some reason. Today I felt like posting it so I am! After...

fuckcombustion.com

I would be interested in something like this. I know there are several of us on this forum that have several different products to try and compare a side by side comparison would be great. And of course I love the Primus song "Running the Gauntlet". And if I may add this quote from the lyrics of the song.

And what are you hoping to see?
Would it set you back if I drop to my knees?
We're running the gauntlet and filling our socks with debris

 

[eyevape]

As one of those weird Europeans I’ve been smoking my joints with tobacco, which makes it hitting harder aka fucking you up. This combined with the addiction potential of nicotine gave me a hard time converting to vaping. I often had the feeling of not getting high enough. Stoney conduction devices were a good start, but combining multiple devices was the key.

Now that I stopped smoking completely, I still use at least 2-3 devices at once. Each gives me a different high, combining them makes a more complex one. Not stoned enough? Add a little bit of Anvil. Not high enough? Tempest to the mix. Just more? Tornado! And if I want to take my time, I enjoy a Mighty bowl. For me this makes the effects as well as the ritual superior to joints.

I consider vaporizers as instruments. The more different ones you play, the richer the sound of the orchestra will be. Play one instrument ten times and it’ll only be louder.

 

[coolbreeze]

Stoney conduction devices were a good start, but combining multiple devices was the key.

Vapbong + Dynavap. The Vapbong can be so heady I sometimes can't tell how high I am. Add a little Dynavap conduction and BAM! I'm out of my gourd.

 

[LesPlenty]

I like playing with multiple vapes at once (I have a few pics but still haven't found a spot I like to post them yet since VaporAsylum shut), I have a few different cleisen adapters to make Christmas tree type sessions...that I usually cannot remember...ball vapes mate well with dabs too instead of just twaxing.

As one of those weird Europeans I’ve been smoking my joints with tobacco

It is a common Aussie habit too, I was a 30 spliff a day man for decades...2 and a 1/2 papers each, about half and half mix

 

[borbjorbis]

I consider vaporizers as instruments. The more different ones you play, the richer the sound of the orchestra will be. Play one instrument ten times and it’ll only be louder.

I definitely think of my vapes as instruments as well – in addition to what you're describing in terms of orchestrating a polyphonic high, there's also just the craftsmanship of many of these devices, which really does evoke a spirit similar to handcrafted musical instruments. In terms of the overarching experience I really do think dry herb vaping is the richest and deepest, dare I say most aesthetic, consumption method. Otherwise we'd run out of things to talk about on this forum haha

Vapbong + Dynavap. The Vapbong can be so heady I sometimes can't tell how high I am. Add a little Dynavap conduction and BAM! I'm out of my gourd.

That's a fun pairing. In my mind the Dynavap is the most toy-like of all the vapes (which isn't a slight), whereas the Vapbong is arguably the single most bespoke vape out there. It's all about high and low baby

ball vapes mate well with dabs too instead of just twaxing.

Really interesting! What benefits / differences do you get by separating them out?

 

[LesPlenty]

What benefits / differences do you get by separating them out?

Dabs can be less snoozy for me, so good in the morning, mix more in the arvo/night and herb to finish before sleep. This can always change depending on needs...low temp herb is great if I get the dab jitters from overdoing it at times and for just staying 'topped up' throughout the day.
Mixing was more of a concern when I only had access to one strain for years at a time as it helped a bit with tolerance problems, now I have access to many strains through medical laws in Oz anything goes.

 

[eyevape]

I definitely think of my vapes as instruments as well – in addition to what you're describing in terms of orchestrating a polyphonic high, there's also just the craftsmanship of many of these devices, which really does evoke a spirit similar to handcrafted musical instruments. In terms of the overarching experience I really do think dry herb vaping is the richest and deepest, dare I say most aesthetic, consumption method. Otherwise we'd run out of things to talk about on this forum haha

Yes, absolutely. I love to see, touch and use those well crafted devices. Can’t think of a more aesthetic and holistic consumption method either. And the variety of devices, and therefore variety in taste and effects, is just amazing. Good luck finding this diversity in smoking. Spoiler: You won’t

It is a common Aussie habit too, I was a 30 spliff a day man for decades...2 and a 1/2 papers each, about half and half mix

Disgusting. I feel you I wish I had known better decades ago.

 

[hotmeals]

I use multiple vapes in a session all the time, but I'm not usually putting too much thought into how the signatures will synergize, I just wing it mostly. I tend to start on the conduction side and finish with something more hybrid or convection leaning. The Anvil and now Tornado have earned the "sesh ender" title because of how often I use them as the last vape in the sesh.

 

[TigoleBitties]

But all of this also makes me wonder: even if I prefer the signature of a joint to any single device of mine, maybe there's a way that I can approximate the feeling a joint by using multiple devices in rapid succession. I say rapid succession because I believe that I feel the signature of a given consumption method most profoundly at the initial onset, and so the goal here would be to create one single hybrid signature, rather than layer signatures.

I don't prefer the signature of a joint anymore and luckily it's been this way for a while. I think what some people may be missing is the effect of all the compounds produced via pyrolysis (benzene, carbon monoxide...) and if you used to smoke blunts then nicotine is also mixed up in that cocktail.

Unfortunately, a lot of these toxic compounds produce a certain type of high that will never be achieved through DHV. My feeling is that the longer you can go in getting your body to "forget" these feelings, the better it will be for your health. Playing with the signature of different vapes seems like a good way to combat any leftover feelings for joints. If you know that you are a person who still thinks of the joint experience then I would certainly avoid any joint smoking going forward to prevent falling back into old habits.

The vapor from DHV is just so much more enjoyable to me than joint smoking that I can never look back but I respect that old feelings die hard for some.

 

[hotmeals]

I don't prefer the signature of a joint anymore and luckily it's been this way for a while.

The vapor from DHV is just so much more enjoyable to me than joint smoking that I can never look back but I respect that old feelings die hard for some.

Same for me. I'm lucky and glad I got into vaping relatively early in my cannabis consumption journey, and started to prefer it pretty quickly. The only thing I enjoy about smoking now is the nostalgia. The effects from those nasties were actually one of the main reasons I wanted to try vaping. At some point they started overpowering the cannabinoid effects for me. I think you can get those types of effects with most vapes by going very high temp and pyrolyzing the herb. But if you want to match the joint's cannabinoid effect signature without that, to me the best vapes for that usually seem to be hybrid or conduction vapes with glass chambers, such as Vaponic or TRWW double walled designs, Dreamwood Roasty, or Solo 3, without even really needing to add another vape to the mix IMO. Any sort of slow session style vape is usually pretty good also, but there's just something about that glass conduction that gets the closest I think.

 

[borbjorbis]

Agree with everything being said so far. And as I've given it more thought, I realize that it's probably not even true that I 100% prefer the high from a joint over my vapes.

I think when I smoke a joint I always have a really good time, and so then I start to get second thoughts about this time-consuming and deeply fulfilling and extremely expensive hobby of mine. But when I actually imagine myself living a life where I smoke more than I vape, it just seems completely unrealistic at this point. The experience of vaping is so much richer and brings so much more joy than smoking ever could.

A joint every once in a while on a special occasion or as a treat probably won't hurt tho, and I don't think there's any need for anyone to feel guilty about really liking the experience.

There is something to say about ignorance is bliss tho – I used to think I would find a Goldilocks vape with the perfect ritual and perfect signature, but now I know that there's no such thing and that variety is the spice of life. At the same time, there's maybe some lingering disappointment in discovering that the "perfect" vape doesn't exist for me, and I also feel like I can get bored of vapes / consumption methods quicker than I used to. Not to mention my poor wallet

 

[TigoleBitties]

There is something to say about ignorance is bliss tho – I used to think I would find a Goldilocks vape with the perfect ritual and perfect signature, but now I know that there's no such thing and that variety is the spice of life.

I think so too and there's some comfort in this. I think the happiest I've been with dry herb vaping is when I've curated a group of excellent, reliable and beautiful devices that fit either my changing moods or my environment (outdoor portable, indoor heavy hitter, couch sipper vape, share with friends vape etc..).

My vaping evolution has been periods of acquisition and evaluation for all my use-cases. Some vapes stay at the top of their categories for a while, until I find some other vape that performs better for that category.

 

[cx714]

For me, it’s a matter of convenience. Sometimes kicking a load can be more work than it’s worth. So I’ll sesh the Toad then come back and dump the load into a Vapman to kill any survivors.

I’ve done the same with my Firewood, so I think I’m mainly compensating for battery drain. Hate breaking out a fresh battery just for that last little puff.

 

[invertedisdead]

People often point their finger at the vape or its heating method but IMO most cannabis available these days is generally rather one dimensional.

If the herb was truly stoney, you'd feel stoned.
Premature poly hybrids just don't really do it.

Seems like there was an idea that if growers combined all these good strains into one super strain that it would inherit all the best traits, but in my view almost all modern cultivars have neither the heaviness of a real indica nor the raciness of a real sativa.
The end result often being not much of a physically discernible high.

Sometimes I still think about the face melters I was pulling from my Newvape Flowerpot in 2017

 

[Grow Goddess]

As a matter of fact, I have!

I combined these two to Supercharge my Hornet with OHW


I combined these two to Turbo Charge my One Hit Wonder with IOH