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I don't know exchange rates, but I think that would be about $30 US? It would not be remotely possible to put that much into an oven. That amount would fill many, many, many ovens...
Alfa Vaporizer by goboof
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I don't know exchange rates, but I think that would be about $30 US? It would not be remotely possible to put that much into an oven. That amount would fill many, many, many ovens...
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Damn, 20 pounds for a 3/4 packed oven? Thats like $120 per gram. I think you're spending wayyyy too much on your weed, because in the US, its around $10-$20 per gram. I think for the health reasons, vaping is definitely worth it over smoking. Also, if he's used to mixing tobacco in with weed, maybe he can do the same in the vape? I wouldn't do this without researching first, because I have no clue if vaping tobacco this was is safe or will give you any effect. For you, you can just pack less, but for your brother, i'm not too sure, I think he should work on lowering his tolerance, or taking a t-break if he's smoking that much every day, because that honestly can't be healthy. Also, are you sure you're spending 20 pounds per chamber, because that sounds utterly ridiculous to me.
eskimo_rising
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Hmmm...
he said he bought two twenty bags and he realized the next morning that there was only one bag left. I'll have to tell him and see if we can work out what happened.
Does the consumption sound about right? 30-40ish short tokes between us off a 1/2 full very packed oven?
He gets a pretty crap rate from his local dealer because of where we are, he was getting it cheaper from the city but it wasn't worth it. I mean i'll ask him what he pays but imo it shouldn't be that bad, not to the point were its making a huge difference compared to normal rates.
I think an 8th is about £25/30 quid but I could be wrong.
I have to say when we put it into the oven it looked like a hell of a lot of weed to a lightweight like me. He said he gets about 4 double skinned, mixed tobacco joints out of a 20 bag.
My inexperience about these things is probably showing, i need to confirm with him. Cheers guys.
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eskimo_rising
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Hi,
My brother is paying £10 a gram, he swears black and blue he put about 1.5 grams in and smoked the rest.
Something very strange going on and i'm a little peeved off and confused, imo he probably smoked it without realizing.
Also we noticed the bottom of the oven is covered in guaze like a screen? We weren't sure if that was the case or if there was already a screen in there.
When we packed it down it went down by almost a 1/3. Gave it a good fine grind, I told my brother fine but not powder because that's the advice I got.
I'm just wondering if this unit is practical for me personally because yesterday I felt horrible and today i'm just back to normal about two days later.
So I feel like with the tiny amounts that get me high I would probably get 3 tokes on average out of the machine? What is the best way to go about it? Do I turn it off and come back to it?
Anyway appreciate all the input you guys are giving me as always. Cheers.
My brother is paying £10 a gram, he swears black and blue he put about 1.5 grams in and smoked the rest.
Something very strange going on and i'm a little peeved off and confused, imo he probably smoked it without realizing.
Also we noticed the bottom of the oven is covered in guaze like a screen? We weren't sure if that was the case or if there was already a screen in there.
When we packed it down it went down by almost a 1/3. Gave it a good fine grind, I told my brother fine but not powder because that's the advice I got.
I'm just wondering if this unit is practical for me personally because yesterday I felt horrible and today i'm just back to normal about two days later.
So I feel like with the tiny amounts that get me high I would probably get 3 tokes on average out of the machine? What is the best way to go about it? Do I turn it off and come back to it?
Anyway appreciate all the input you guys are giving me as always. Cheers.
Justpassedu
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In all honesty man and i hate to say it but your brother is not telling you the truth , there is no way you can fit 1.5 grams in the Alfa let alone even a gram. A gram would prob give me 4-6 full packings in the alfas oven. It takes very little , i am not sure about the exact amount but i'd say anywhere from .2-.5 which is not allot. The best results i have gotten is with a medium to fine grind and i pack the oven full and tamp it down tight with a toothpick or packing tool , something that can fit in there. I find the tighter the pack the better my results. I usually start on low or medium temp take a few puffs and eventually with a fully packed oven i work my up to the highest temp. I get anywhere from 15-25 good hits that produce nice vapor through my session. I also don't have a gauze in my oven , it has a screen in it and that's all. You can also turn it on have a session and if you didnt go through all your material , shut it off stir your material and come back to it later. also the screen that should be in the oven is removable for cleaning . Try grinding your material very fine , packing it very tightly and start at medium temp and after maybe 2 puffs you should get nice vapor from it.
eskimo_rising
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Imo I think he smoked it without realizing, I also think he was more stoned from that 3/4 oven then he realized.
He isn't complaining he said it was completely fine and he enjoyed the experience but i'm trying to work out if it's viable for me personally.
I think with the brits mixing tobacco in is a bit of a game changer, the tolerance for smoking pure that you guys have must be crazy. I couldn't even comprehend touching a half oven by myself never mind a full oven.
I think maybe the screen is a gauze? It just looked like a fixed screen at the bottom first time we opened the oven. We tried to pry it out but we didn't want to damage it in case it was fixed.
Obviously if it's physically impossible then it's physically impossible, it's just a bit frustrating. I'm going to have to measure next time, so no worries but I don't know when that would be.
The way you describe it the alfa works fine, we got about 15-20 sips each from a 3/4 packed oven.
I'm sure it'll be fine I just need to work out the best tricks for smoking the smallest amount because my tolerance is pathetic. P:
IMO it'll be great for sharing between 2 to 4 people.
Thanks again for the replies, I appreciate it.
He isn't complaining he said it was completely fine and he enjoyed the experience but i'm trying to work out if it's viable for me personally.
I think with the brits mixing tobacco in is a bit of a game changer, the tolerance for smoking pure that you guys have must be crazy. I couldn't even comprehend touching a half oven by myself never mind a full oven.
I think maybe the screen is a gauze? It just looked like a fixed screen at the bottom first time we opened the oven. We tried to pry it out but we didn't want to damage it in case it was fixed.
Obviously if it's physically impossible then it's physically impossible, it's just a bit frustrating. I'm going to have to measure next time, so no worries but I don't know when that would be.
The way you describe it the alfa works fine, we got about 15-20 sips each from a 3/4 packed oven.
I'm sure it'll be fine I just need to work out the best tricks for smoking the smallest amount because my tolerance is pathetic. P:
IMO it'll be great for sharing between 2 to 4 people.
Thanks again for the replies, I appreciate it.
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Yeah that "gauze" is a screen. You can remove it by sticking a pipe cleaner through the airpath and pushing it out. Making sure the pipe cleaner is lightly soaked in iso before doing it, or it will stick in the airpath. Not too much iso, dip it in, and let the pipe cleaner dry for a bit.
Also there's no way he put 1.5grams in there. I've tried to fit as much as possible once, just to test it, and I got 0.4 grams, and that was with a wooden piece that fit perfectly into the oven that I pressed down on.
Also, my tolerance has been exactly the same since the first time I smoked. Let me know if you have any other questions.
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Hey guys! Any information on this? http://imgur.com/gallery/9F8mm
It seems to either be a rebrand or a fake of the goboof alfa, and someone was selling it for around a hundred bucks on /r/entexchange. However, the goboof alfa is produced by goboof in ireland (from what I know), and now they are doing rebrands? Why would they sell them for cheaper than the original version, thats what I don't get.
Also, there seem to be a couple key differences between the Ninja 1 and the Alfa. The mouthpiece is taller, and the oven has a small cutout that the alfa doesn't. That's what makes me think that its not a rebrand, rather a fake. However, if it was a fake, I should've been able to find it on google, but I couldn't. Any of you guys heard about this or know anything about it?
It seems to either be a rebrand or a fake of the goboof alfa, and someone was selling it for around a hundred bucks on /r/entexchange. However, the goboof alfa is produced by goboof in ireland (from what I know), and now they are doing rebrands? Why would they sell them for cheaper than the original version, thats what I don't get.
Also, there seem to be a couple key differences between the Ninja 1 and the Alfa. The mouthpiece is taller, and the oven has a small cutout that the alfa doesn't. That's what makes me think that its not a rebrand, rather a fake. However, if it was a fake, I should've been able to find it on google, but I couldn't. Any of you guys heard about this or know anything about it?
Justpassedu
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Wow never heard anything about it but it looks to be exact to the real thing minus the logo and printing on the box. Looks like someone has copied it or who knows goboof may have sold them up branded to another company. Beats me , did you try it ? Also noticed it has a USB charger , my original Alfa does not.
** edit : looks like it may have been copied in China , the user seems to work with a Chinese company, found a drop more info : https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/discreet-vaping-25-high-ninja-i-herbal-vaporizer-tina-wang
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Damn, how did you find that so quickly? Yeah its a fake, theres a few subtle differences, and its clearly being made by this chinese company. The new alfa with the gray logo comes with a usb charger.
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I suspected that at first (since i've heard nothing about goboof manufacturing, pictures or anything), however, the Ninja I was first announced on May 25th, on the SLB Technology facebook page. That's way after Goboof started selling theirs. https://www.facebook.com/Slbelectroniccigarette
Also, there are a couple differences between the Ninja 1 and the Alfa (mouthpiece is taller and there is a cutout in the oven wall). All the signs (imo) point to it being a fake rather than a rebrand, however there is a chance that you are right. I contacted both goboof and SLB technology about this, and hopefully one of them responds.
Edit:
This picture of the Ninja doesn't have holes in the oven lid
https://www.facebook.com/Slbelectro...4247223607078/964247166940417/?type=1&theater
However, that imgur album I posted shows that the Ninja does have holes in the lid. Now i'm confused.
I have a theory on this, SLB Technology was/is continually improving their manufacturing, and it's gone through several revisions. The pictures you see on the facebook page are the earliest models of the "Alfa" ever made, while the pictures from my reddit thread are something like revision 2, and the ones that we saw upon release are revision 3, while revision 4 is the current version?
EDIT: Ignore the bolded part, lol, didn't know Alfa came out 2014.
It's a longshot, but in terms of timeline, it makes sense yeah?
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http://www.dhgate.com/product/e-cigarette-dry-herb-alfa-ninja2-goboof-hot/245461023.htmlhtml
It's for sale. I think goboof is rebranding these. A lot of evidence points to that, but I don't know for sure. Hopefully it's just a fake, but goboof doesn't seem to manufacture their own product.
It's for sale. I think goboof is rebranding these. A lot of evidence points to that, but I don't know for sure. Hopefully it's just a fake, but goboof doesn't seem to manufacture their own product.
Justpassedu
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lol if you look at the last picture in that dhgate posting it actually says Alfa on it in the picture and has the logo .
Anyone wanna group buy 50 of these? :3
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Justpassedu
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No thank you , I try to stay away from copies . Who knows what materials they used to make this so cheap. Plus I have the real thing & almost every device I have owned with a USB port on the actual device has had the USB quickly fail on me. If there was more info and these were in fact using the exact same materials goboof was using than I'd prob be down .
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The fake mighty is actually just a clone. Storz & Bickel manufacture the product themselves, thats a fact. However, I'm skeptical of goboof, especially because their listed address is a shitty 2 person office, they have no pictures or info of their manufacturing process, and one day they just popped up and started selling. That all seems sketchy to me, and I think that they are just rebranding these chinese manufactured vaporizers. Unless goboof responds, i'll never know for sure. Even then, they probably won't give me a direct answer.
Gotcha, and yeah, i'm really waiting for the responses now.
Goboof doesn't participate here on FC. The owner used to participate here when he worked for Ogelsby & Butler, but they decided that the forum was not for them, probably for legal reasons. I doubt that his strategy has changed. I also doubt that they manufacture in China, but that's just my instinct.
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Bad news, just got an update from SLB technology after I contacted their FB page. Seems as if they are the manufacturer and supplier for goboof, and goboof is purchasing these units for $20 each..
Well at least I like my vape, but I feel cheated out of my money..
Me: Hello! I would like to get some more information about the SLB Ninja I. Is there somewhere I can purchase it from? How much are you selling it for, and are they being manufactured yet? Thank you.
SLB: Hi Vineet,thanks for your message,Ninja is available(manufactured),it will be around USD$20(depending on your order quantity).
Me: Ok thank you. Is this the same as the goboof alfa? Or do you guys supply these vapes to goboof? I'm just asking because I would like to know more about the quality and the product before purchasing. Thank you.
SLB: It is the same as Alfa,we cooperated with Goboof before,you can get a sample to get a better idea of this item
Me: Ok what is the minimum purchase? Are you goboof's supplier? Or did they just help you make the design?
SLB: MOQ 50pcs,we worked with them before
Me: Ok thank you, what do you mean by worked with them? Like making the design? Or just manufacturing and supplying? Basically, I want to know if these are the same exact units as the alfa, so that I know what I'm purchasing before I order. Thank you.
SLB: Manufacturing and supplying,Ninja is identical as Alfa,may I know which company are you from?Do you have a web then we can know each other better?
Me: We haven't created the company yet. But we plan to sell these vaporizers. So this is the latest update of the alfa? The hi temperature is 428F and the screen is in the oven? Is the charging port a micro USB or is it a DC barrel port?
SLB: Yeah
Me: Thank you very much I will contact you soon with more info about us.
SLB: No problem,it is smart to add this product in your product portfolio,may I know how did you find us?When you will start the sales of vaporizer?
Me: I got a link to your Facebook page and your product from a friend. Hopefully within the next month.
SLB: Thanks for let me know,feel free to contact us if you have any questions
Me: Will do.
SLB: Cheers.
Ended the convo there. Got all the info I needed. Goboof will be getting an angry email from me tomorrow. So I was right that goboof is working out of a 2 person office...Ciaran sells these things at a 1000% margin (worse than grenco or kandypens). And his warranty is probably just shipping you a new unit, barely costs him anything.
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Read my latest post. They manufacture in China, and pay $20 for each Alfa. That was shocking news to me and I still hope to hear back from goboof..Goboof doesn't participate here on FC. The owner used to participate here when he worked for Ogelsby & Butler, but they decided that the forum was not for them, probably for legal reasons. I doubt that his strategy has changed. I also doubt that they manufacture in China, but that's just my instinct.
I'm not saying that SLB is lying about being their manufacturer, but I wouldn't take his word for it based on a single conversation. The Chinese don't have a problem with flat out lying when it suits their needs.
I'm curious myself to hear what Ciaran has to say about this.
I'm curious myself to hear what Ciaran has to say about this.
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But why would a chinese company make an exact fake? The alfa isn't even a popular vape thats worth making a fake of. Also, goboof's location is a 2 person office, isn't that suspicious to you? To me, this whole thing seems extremely sketchy, and for me, that conversation was convincing enough to confirm my suspicions. Of course, there's no firm proof until I hear back from goboof, but I strongly doubt they will respond to my email. Also the fact that goboof had no advertising, no manufacturing, no funding, and one day they just popped up, made an announcement, and started selling? Does that not smell fishy to you?I'm not saying that SLB is lying about being their manufacturer, but I wouldn't take his word for it based on a single conversation. The Chinese don't have a problem with flat out lying when it suits their needs.
I'm curious myself to hear what Ciaran has to say about this.
Jack Sprat
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The folks from Goboof are some of the same people who started Iolite. They do in fact have a history in the industry.
As for the Chinese version, you'll notice that the charging port is different from the Alfa, as is the screw on the side. Clearly it's not the same device. China is famous for copying products and lying about their origins.
I've seen nothing to lead me to believe that Goboof is not being truthful, but plenty over the years not to trust dodgy Chinese suppliers claiming to sell factory direct or whatever.
As for the Chinese version, you'll notice that the charging port is different from the Alfa, as is the screw on the side. Clearly it's not the same device. China is famous for copying products and lying about their origins.
I've seen nothing to lead me to believe that Goboof is not being truthful, but plenty over the years not to trust dodgy Chinese suppliers claiming to sell factory direct or whatever.