Advanced E-cig users and oil/wax, how-to "one-hitter-quitter"

fernand

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@Todai FWIW i had some older atomizers that I think were made by Joye, though in some tiny cup details they seem to differ from @Haywood's. I have one sitting here after I started gently melting supermelt wax into it, about 0.25g so far. The problem is that it all vanished, like into the surround metal mesh? This is one ongoing mystery: why it was absorbed in my atty and not @Haywood's. So try it and pls. advise!
 
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lesvape

Queer in a high haze
I've got three of them, and I get more life then I need. Days and days before recharging is necessary. Next to my VV V3, they're my favorite eGo style batteries. I also have a really tiny 300mAh eGo battery (not variable voltage) that I use when I want super stealth and easy pocket-ability.
Do you have a picture comparing the size of your 400mah Vision to the 300mah eGo battery?
 
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lesvape

Queer in a high haze
I didn't see this model mentioned, but, I just got the Kanger T3D today with a 1.5ohm and 2.0ohm coil for e-juice. I am told it doesn't leak and uses the same coil as the PT3 line. I already have pure gold in my PT3, but I think it could be another option(at a lower cost), though I haven't fully compared air flow between the two. But, I do really like the vapor production and flavor, and so far no leaks(apparently the original T3, which doesn't have a removable tip does leak). The tip on my T3D model are interchangeable with the PT.
 
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Todai

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Got both the Mini Protank 3 and the Aerotank Mini this weekend. I'll write up a little review shortly, but for now I will say the Aerotank Mini blows the MPT3 out of the water. Yes, the adjustable airflow makes that much of a difference!

@Haywood and @215z I couldn't resist, and just pre-ordered one of the DNA30 Cana Modz (Hana Modz clone) from Elev8Vape. Next up - learning to wrap my own atty coils!
 
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lesvape

Queer in a high haze
I thought about going that route yesterday, but the cost of the battery was hindered it for me, plus I like the standard e-cig batteries like the Vision Spinners.

I have been vaping e-liquid with T3D all last night and some today and I really like the size and flavor out of it. Right now have the 1.5ohm atty on a E-Go upgrade set to 4.2V and no leaks so far. I like the size more than the PT3. I can't really compare flavor and efficiency directly as they both have different type of material. I may go for the ATm next and use it for home made stuff, and keep the PT3 for pure gold. I take there is no size difference between the mPT3 and the ATm?
 
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Todai

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I take there is no size difference between the mPT3 and the ATm?

Nope, they are the same size and most parts are interchangeable.

The Aerotank Mini is all brushed stainless steel instead of chrome-plated brass, the mouthpiece has a nice curve to it now, and it has the adjustable airflow base. It also comes with the new-style coil that has a fully enclosed wick.

No leaks with e-juice or PG on either tank so far, and I don't expect leaks to be honest.
 

lesvape

Queer in a high haze
So, lets say I get the Aerotank(regular) base, I could use it on my PT3 to get the airflow control?

I haven't see the mPT3 in person, but both my PT3, and T3D have a nice curved tip, made out of what I think maybe stainless steal.
 
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fernand

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so has anyone tried the New hidden wick atomizers with a pure gold? with a thinned wax?
 
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Todai

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really? nice.

can the airflow be shut off completely?

Yes. From really wide open (it's a good size hole) to all the way completely closed. And the ring adjuster is nice and tight, very hard to accidentally move it. When attaching to or removing from the battery you can accidentally twist it, but not a big deal.

@mystikalghost the new Aerotank Mega and Mini come with 2 of the 'new' style coils that have the wick enclosed instead of the current coils that have the wick coming out of each side. I have not seen them being sold separately yet, nor have I tried them with PG yet (they work great with juice though). Note that the coils that come with the Mini are 1.5ohm, so make sure your battery/mod can handle that low of a resistance. I bought 2.0ohm replacements so I could use them on a tiny Ego battery since my focus on this setup is pocket friendly and take anywhere. The Mega comes with 2.0ohm coils.
 
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2clicker

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Yes. From really wide open (it's a good size hole) to all the way completely closed. And the ring adjuster is nice and tight, very hard to accidentally move it. When attaching to or removing from the battery you can accidentally twist it, but not a big deal.

@mystikalghost the new Aerotank Mega and Mini come with 2 of the 'new' style coils that have the wick enclosed instead of the current coils that have the wick coming out of each side. I have not seen them being sold separately yet, nor have I tried them with PG yet (they work great with juice though). Note that the coils that come with the Mini are 1.5ohm, so make sure your battery/mod can handle that low of a resistance. I bought 2.0ohm replacements so I could use them on a tiny Ego battery since my focus on this setup is pocket friendly and take anywhere. The Mega comes with 2.0ohm coils.

the ATm may just be my ejmix solution. looking forward to a leak free glass tank solution. i wonder if the new atty heads will be as easy to rebuild as the current heads.
 
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Hoosier

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the ATm may just be my ejmix solution. looking forward to a leak free glass tank solution. i wonder if the new atty heads will be as easy to rebuild as the current heads.

Did you ever go the PT3m route? I have been using mine with ejmix for a week straight with no leak issues. I do plan to get the ATm as well, here in the next couple of weeks.
 
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2clicker

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Did you ever go the PT3m route? I have been using mine with ejmix for a week straight with no leak issues. I do plan to get the ATm as well, here in the next couple of weeks.

i have a PT3m, but have not filled it yet. i wonder if the newer kanger heads will work in it...?
 
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llamaman001

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Ive been reading all through the available e-cig threads and have more questions now than I do answers...Would anyone be so kind as to help me along here with my requests. Im looking for a vape pen that I can do oils and e-juice, on different carts of course. Id like to stick to the lower voltage type stuff (unless I need higher voltages for oil?) to conserve and because I want to blow clouds equal to say, my solo for example, not literally as thick as clouds from the sky....

Ive search and looked at types of mechanical mods and batteries and it kind of left my head spinning, there is A LOT of info to take in, but Im still wrapping my head around it.

Can anyone make any recommendations for that fit my needs for a basic setup/starter kit? Such as battery type, mod type, cart type. Im sure I can find everything on ebay or the official sites of the company but I just need help narrowing down my search and was hoping I could find a little help here.
 
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walrus

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Ive been reading all through the available e-cig threads and have more questions now than I do answers...Would anyone be so kind as to help me along here with my requests. Im looking for a vape pen that I can do oils and e-juice, on different carts of course. Id like to stick to the lower voltage type stuff (unless I need higher voltages for oil?) to conserve and because I want to blow clouds equal to say, my solo for example, not literally as thick as clouds from the sky....

Ive search and looked at types of mechanical mods and batteries and it kind of left my head spinning, there is A LOT of info to take in, but Im still wrapping my head around it.

Can anyone make any recommendations for that fit my needs for a basic setup/starter kit? Such as battery type, mod type, cart type. Im sure I can find everything on ebay or the official sites of the company but I just need help narrowing down my search and was hoping I could find a little help here.

I would start with a variable voltage ego battery. Ego-c twist, vision spinner, the brand doesn't really matter. Something like this: http://www.myvaporstore.com/Vision_Spinner_VV_eGo_Battery_900mAh_p/vs-s900.htm You could save a few bucks by going with a regular, fixed voltage ego type battery but the vv makes it easy to dial in the hit that you prefer.

For ejuice/liquidized concentrates, people have been reporting good results with the mini protank3: http://www.myvaporstore.com/Mini_Kanger_Protank_3_p/krpt3-mk.htm Also, early reviews are good on the aerotank mini, the adjustable airflow may be an improvement over the mpt3: http://www.myvaporstore.com/Mini_Kanger_Protank_3_p/krpt3-mk.htm Another option that may not work as well as the others, but is tiny, discreet, reliable, dirt-cheap, and very resistant to leaking: http://www.gotvapes.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=148_120&products_id=518. These will all work well with the above mentioned battery.

For wax/shatter/oil/etc it's a little more complicated as there are a lot of options out there and people's opinions on them all can vary pretty wildly. Skillet type, globe type, rebuildables etc, etc. Being new to all of this, I would stick to the premade stuff for now. These are mostly load as you go type carts, you load a small amount and get a few hits before you have to load some more. I personally have had good results with the Dr Dabber carts: http://drdabber.com/accessories/ghost-attachment-w-mouthpiece-single or globes: http://drdabber.com/accessories/globe-attachment-full-single. You can grab some extra replacement atomizers for either style on that site as well. There are lots of other options out there that do basically the same thing (Dabbler, Gentlemans, Gpen, etc, etc, etc) the Dr Dabber is just the one that I have he most experience with and can recommend personally.

It can all be little overwhelming to get started with e cigs but once you start to use this basic type equipment everything gets a little easier to understand. After a while, you may want to move up to the mechanical mods and rebuildable atomizers that are being discussed in this thread or you may be perfectly happy with the basic equipment you have and never feel the need to go any further. I use and enjoy the type of things I linked in this post as well as the more advanced mods.
 

DabComa

Stuck in Dab Coma
I figured this was the place to add this tidbit I happened to come across, as using a heat gun to measure the temperature of the coil was briefly discussed earlier along in this thread. I happened to get my hands on one and used it to measure the heat on my Igo-w coil I wrapped 28 g kanthal 9-10 times to get to 1.33 ohms and when it glows red hot it just about peaks at 650°, which from General consensus seems to be the best temperature on Ti nails. I haven't had the chance to test different resistances for peak temperature, but I do feel like it makes a difference. If I get the chance to test for example, a 2 ohm coil for max temp I will report back. It's funny because I've tried a lot of coils before I settled on the 1.33 resistance, which I felt offered the closest to glass rig performance, and using the heat gun has verified that my taste was right on, at least for me
 

Todai

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the ATm may just be my ejmix solution. looking forward to a leak free glass tank solution. i wonder if the new atty heads will be as easy to rebuild as the current heads.

Look a few pages back or search YouTube. Phil Busardo does a review of both the Aerotank Mini and Mega, and I think he breaks open one of the new coils in the video.

Note that there's two videos - he does the full review in the first one, the does a part 2 video after finding out that the first set of tanks he got were prototypes. In the second video he goes over the changes that Kanger incorporated into the final design.

Edit: Here's Haywood's post with the reviews:

http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/a...-one-hitter-quitter.10360/page-26#post-583935
 

Haywood

Onward Thru the Fog
I saw your other post about using Joye 510 atomizers for solids and am intrigued. So, just remove the bridge and it's good to go? Almost seems too easy - and inexpensive! To confirm - found these on Joye's official web store - these are the ones I want http://us.joyetech.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=148_174&product_id=57 Then just attach a drip tip to the top of the atomizer, drop a load, and go to town? Maybe dress it up with one of those ego cone covers that go over the 510 attys looks nice too, I think.
Looks like the same ones I have. Make sure you read the interchange that @fernand and I had. While I had zero problems removing the bridge, he had some trouble. He also had trouble with the PG soaking into the surrounding nickel mesh, while I didn't. My guess was either that Joye changed the design since he got his a while ago, or that his may not have been genuine. I also got them at a steal; a buck or two or three each (I don't remember). They normally cost much more.

Do you have a picture comparing the size of your 400mah Vision to the 300mah eGo battery?

(1) Innokin VV V3 800mAh
(2) Vision Spinner 400mAh
(3) eGo (fixed voltage) 400mAh
(4) eGo (fixed voltage) 350mAh
(5) GotVapes Sapphire Clearo
(6) JoyeTech Atty
(7) Ass’t eGo cones/pencaps
(8) Empire Mods eGo Drip Shield
(9) Kanger Mini ProTank III

Size Comparison:
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My usual combinations:
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You can imagine sizes of different combinations. For example, if you put the mPT3 on top of one of the fixed voltage batteries, it's about the same size as the Vision Spinner - Joye combo in the middle of the second picture. The little red rig is really really tiny, but it still gets you realllly medicated! The mPT3 is the same length as the GotVapes Sapphire.

i have a PT3m, but have not filled it yet. i wonder if the newer kanger heads will work in it...?
Yes, the mPT3 takes the same atty's as the AeroTanks.
 

Haywood

Onward Thru the Fog
@mystikalghost
The first one is for ProTank II series. The second and third ones are for ProTank 3 series. The two series take different size atty's and are NOT interchangeable (irrespective of resistance).

There are now two different kinds of genuine KangerTech atty's for the 3 series (again, irrespective of resistance, which in this case is 1.5Ω or 2.0Ω). The new kind has four holes drilled for the liquid to get to the wick and coil, with the wick NOT extending out past the metal atty shell. The original kind has the wicks protuding about 1mm outside the shell. Both are a dual coil design. The only place to get the new kind (as of now) is when you buy an AeroTank Mini or Mega. They are not available yet separately. No one has reported if they are more suitable or less suitable for our use with very thick liquids, such as Pure Gold. The original one work great with PG.
 
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mystikalghost

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is there any reason I cant just burn wax right off a coil? I built a cone style coil on my old phoenix v6 RDA and just load it with oil and vape away.
I have seen some people do it so I don't see why not. I think you would just have to be careful not to dry burn. Maybe soak the coil in e-juice beforehand even if it's 0 nic.
 
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