Advanced E-cig users and oil/wax, how-to "one-hitter-quitter"

[gcarp]

@Puffers No all I have is organic cotton at the moment. I'm looking into using the ceramic. I wish there was a way as to build the coils close enough that it could vaporize right off the drip plate but you run the risk of shorting it doing that. I'm thinking maybe some kind of ceramic base and try a different coil build like some of the pancake style one's I've seen people post in this thread.

edit - I'm hoping the vape stores in the city the concert is located in have more materials available that I can work with on short notice.

 

[215z]

You have a NICE RDA @gcarp but if you're in the market for a ceramic bottomed RDA, there is the $10 Triangle and $95 Immortalizer. HCigar makes a nice clone of the latter, $13 from a Chinese vendor and $25 stateside.

Neither of them have high walls

 

[gcarp]

You have a NICE RDA @gcarp but if you're in the market for a ceramic bottomed RDA, there is the $10 Triangle and $95 Immortalizer. HCigar makes a nice clone of the latter, $13 from a Chinese vendor and $25 stateside.

Neither of them have high walls

Very nice I'll definitely check those out. Yeah I am thinking for a setting such as a concert, the higher the walls the better. I would be a bit skeptical as it is to carry pre filled co2 oil syringes inside with me to drip lol

 

[2clicker]

Very nice I'll definitely check those out. Yeah I am thinking for a setting such as a concert, the higher the walls the better. I would be a bit skeptical as it is to carry pre filled co2 oil syringes inside with me to drip lol

a dripping atty def isnt the way to go for this setting unless you are comfy loading often. doesnt sound like you wanna mess with that so i would check out the Delta 9 omicron stuff. those carts can hold about a gram of oil.

 

[gcarp]

a dripping atty def isnt the way to go for this setting unless you are comfy loading often. doesnt sound like you wanna mess with that so i would check out the Delta 9 omicron stuff. those carts can hold about a gram of oil.

Yeah your right, I just wish there wasn't such a huge difference in using a drip atty vs any cart. Especially for co2 Oil. I may be better off mixing the co2 oil with a vg/pg solution but not sure how well the result would be.

edit - I did go ahead and get a simple kangertech evod battery along with Cloutank m3 attachment. I'm just going to use the concentrate head but even then the wall is not very high. I'm still on the fence on how this performs, most likely was a waste of money but was all they had in a local shop as I had no time to wait for shipping.

http://www.cloupor.com/Cloutank-M3-Dry-herb-vaporizer-pen-wholesale

 

[2clicker]

Yeah your right, I just wish there wasn't such a huge difference in using a drip atty vs any cart. Especially for co2 Oil. I may be better off mixing the co2 oil with a vg/pg solution but not sure how well the result would be.

are you familiar with EJmix from Liquidizer? they have a formula of pg/vg that mixes (and stays mixed) with oil perfectly. it can be made very potent. and it looks like any old ecig. this is likely your best route, but it wont have that straight oil flavor anymore.

i use this method when i need to be stealth. works great at bars.

 

[215z]

@2clicker the W9/UP Omicron cart won't satisfy someone used to RDA sized hits. @gcarp If you are willing to use a tank system, I second @2clicker 's EJmix suggestion. It contains PEG, a heavy glycol that will mix with both PG and cannabis extract. PG and cannabis extract will not mix on its own.

 

[gcarp]

are you familiar with EJmix from Liquidizer? they have a formula of pg/vg that mixes (and stays mixed) with oil perfectly. it can be made very potent. and it looks like any old ecig. this is likely your best route, but it wont have that straight oil flavor anymore.

i use this method when i need to be stealth. works great at bars.

I did not know about this particular mix. Going to grab a bottle and try it out. What would you say is a good mix per bottle, in grams of co2 oil?

edit - Nevermind, a simple search revealed 1 ml to 1 gram concentrate.

 

[2clicker]

I did not know about this particular mix. Going to grab a bottle and try it out. What would you say is a good mix per bottle, in grams of co2 oil?

edit - Nevermind, a simple search revealed 1 ml to 1 gram concentrate.

yep a 1:1 mix is suggested, but you can make it even more potent by doing say a 1:.75 mix. or even a 1:.5 mix.

 

[Trichoma]

Finally got around to playing with some ceramic but I wasn't able to get very good hits. I tried a stove top coil but I think it just made to much of a hot spot in the middle because at lower wattages it doesn't vape and at higher wattages it tastes like crap and very little vapor.

try a low ohm coil and what volts are your batteries? I use 4.2 volts at 1.5 ohms it works fine. if you read this thread from beginning you will have all your answers. cheers







I also tried a loosely wrapped stove top style coil which didn't really produce any vapor even at higher wattages.

I've been using 28 ga kanthal so I just ordered some 22 gauge to see if that wont help out and am going to play with other style coils and possibly make some wicks with holes dirlled through them to weave resistance wire through the ceramic wick.

If anyone has suggestions I am very open to them.

 

[Roth]

I did not know about this particular mix. Going to grab a bottle and try it out. What would you say is a good mix per bottle, in grams of co2 oil?

edit - Nevermind, a simple search revealed 1 ml to 1 gram concentrate.

I'd experiment with less EJMix and maybe work your way up. You can always add more if you need to.

Lately I've been using 15%-20% by volume EJMix. It's a VERY viscous liquid at that point, but it does somewhat help with heat induced leaks. Keep in mind this after winterization though.

I never add in an amount based on the weight of the concentrate prior. I always winterize first. Depending on my source for concentrates, some might have a considerably larger amount of waxes/fats. That's why my ratios are based on volume. After I winterize and evaporate off nearly all the Everclear, I suck up the mixture in a syringe to gauge the volume.

The EJMix does add a little flavor. It's nothing off putting, but it is there...somewhat sweet. I like to use the least amount possible while still being liquid enough to wick.

 

[matthend]

I am assuming this will help with clearance issues on the Igo-w with the stovetop/serpent/diamondback ceramic coil?
http://www.vapordna.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=AC0219&Click=98
@2clicker is this what you have, or something similar? Also, what size are the set screws?

 

[2clicker]

I am assuming this will help with clearance issues on the Igo-w with the stovetop/serpent/diamondback ceramic coil?
http://www.vapordna.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=AC0219&Click=98
@2clicker is this what you have, or something similar? Also, what size are the set screws?

no ive got the Halo cap found here. unfortunately these cant be found in SS anymore. glad i got mine when i did. anyway, that keg cap looks like it would provide plenty of space for a top positioned coil.

the set screws came from here. although i wished i had gone 1mm shorter. if your using thick wire these still protrude just a bit. not nearly as much as the stock button head screws though.

 

[fernand]

For people who aren't into the drip approach, PureGold is known to work in bottom feeders like a kangertech miniProtank2. Check out that Pure Gold thread.

EJMix thins oils very well - no VG in there. 10, 20, 30% makes a usable mix for many cartos.

But in some bottom feeder heads unthinned oil warms up enough so it can feed. It's very viscous, you can't rush it. Best carried in breast pocket, but in practice there's always enough in my heads for a couple hits, and then it's warm and feeds. I've been having good results so far even using straight oil in a mPT2 the same as PureGold.

 

[farscaper]

so would which option seems more appropriate for those driving and wondering about puffing with minimal to no loading maximum fir like daytrip stuff...

a ceramic donut type wax shatter atomizer

or use some tank style and try ejmix?

ive never used ejmix... just messed with strait pg and vg. with little enjoyable success.

I am more interested in 1 or two hits kinda setup for strength of concentrate...

my previous experiencevwas an evic and ether a evod tank or a kanger protank... early version.

so help a brother out and gimmie a starting point at least... on a selection of A or B

the donut I was looking at was the Devine tribe ceramic donut atty...

recommendations either way are appreciated.

thanks

 

[2clicker]

so would which option seems more appropriate for those driving and wondering about puffing with minimal to no loading

i think you answered your own question right there. for zero loading your option is ejmix between those two. 1.3 ml of some potent juice will take you a long way. pick it up, start vaping, put it down. i suppose you can get other oil atomizers that allow you to load a considerable amounts, but i dont like how the oil gets repeatedly heated over and over so i would not recommend that.

now if youre like me, i much prefer to vape straight oil over an ejmixed liquid. so i would probably go with the donut atty or some rebuildable option and just deal with the loading. i really only use ejmix when i am going places that arent canna friendly.

so yeah, if you are looking for zero loading and ease of use you should look into ejmix. get your mix ratio where you like it and enjoy. i would recommend the kanger aerotank mini or the protank3mini. i believe they now have the best coils to prevent leaking. their new sealed design is great.

 

[530rasta]

Looking for some options to load straight co2 hash oil into..

any suggestions?

I have a bud touch 510 battery and just ordered a Kangertech Manhatten 510 battery

I also got the Sapphire atomizer(?), as per Haywoods recommendations.

But I was curious if there were any other style of carts/atomizers/tanks ect (im not sure i even understand what each of these are really) that have been proven to work well with co2 oil ect. I saw the Kangertech mini protanks, but read a few reviews of leaky carts, chrome covered brass ect?

I may pick one up to try it, but if there are any other brands/models, preferably with high grade parts, i.e. SS, glass, ceramic ect that fit 510, please let me know! im a newbie to this so links on where to buy are awesome as well

thanks

 

[215z]

I use the donut in a kiss cart as a dabbler, a one hitter, load as you go.
@farscaper
you could lay a whole lot on it, but just like overloading a nail, anything you don't inhale ends up as a darker burned oil.

I think it is most helpful to think of it as an electric ceramic nail.

I drive mine at 28W, the divine tribe Atty is sold with a 11W device. YMMV

 

[530rasta]

Ive used those Kiss carts, as in the dabbler. i found i had to load way too often, and most of what i got to stick no the wick ended up on the bottom of the ceramic bowl, making a toothpick a must, and not really making anything stealth, quite the opposite in fact lol...im looking for something that can hold a good gram of co2 oil that i can toss on a 510 battery and be good for a few days at least

 

[215z]

@530rasta the kiss is load as you go, worthless for stealth.

If your tolerance is low, try an Omicron cart from the same folk. you can load half a gram, maybe more.

if you are like the rest of us, you need tank and some way to thin your concentrate.

 

[fernand]

Fwiw, straight up oil, without glycols, is still working for me in a Kangertech mini ProTank2. Just nurse it, but needs no maintenance. They're under $10 on ebay. Metal and glass. Tricky to warm the oil to get it in the (glass) tank. Who makes a little funnel?.

 

[farscaper]

you must have a fully decarbed oil (errl) something of that nature? or were you referring to a strait winterized shatter oil? if I were to get a pen again I would most likely winterize for consistency and stealth... will that kanger mini protank2 work with a stable shatter or must it be reduced ti fully decarbed and oil like?

 

[fernand]

It works with PureGold, so I tried with 80% thc "CO2" oil and what i'd guess is an iso wash oil (72%), both from a local dispensary. I don't know more about these, and I've wondered about the decarb issue myself. I assumed the vaporizing conflagration took care of the carboxy tail, even if the stated thc concentration is THC+THCA?

 

[530rasta]

the co2 oil i use is similar in consistancy to the pure gold, a bit thicker sometimes.

ill pick up a kangertech protank 2 tonight off ebay and see how she rolls, but honestly im thinking these sapphires, if they dont leak, should fit the bill. I was worried about having my co2 oil in a plastic pen ect, as im not a big plastic fan, but then i realized the oil comes in and has been sitting in a plastic syringe for who knows how long...so...im going for it with those, but want something made with higher grade parts

 

[b fiddy]

Greetings friends, I am trying to piece together some kits and I was wondering if the piece highlighted in red is sold separately? Been looking all around with no luck. Thanks!