Falconflys
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Firewood Vaporizer
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Someone mentioned that the lack of an off/on option means that the battery can run down from accidental button presses in one's pocket- is this really true? There is really no way to turn the device off, other than removing the battery? The pdf of the FATX manual that was posted has been taken down.
This seems like a very crazy design decision for a portable device if i am actually understanding correctly. This device has been through a bunch of iterations- how does it not have an on/off capability by version 10? Maybe something to include in version XI?
I had been very interested in this thing to supplement my TM2, but have lost all interest if you really can't switch the thing off to put it in your pocket. Please tell me that i am mistaken so that i can go back to drooling over it.
This seems like a very crazy design decision for a portable device if i am actually understanding correctly. This device has been through a bunch of iterations- how does it not have an on/off capability by version 10? Maybe something to include in version XI?
I had been very interested in this thing to supplement my TM2, but have lost all interest if you really can't switch the thing off to put it in your pocket. Please tell me that i am mistaken so that i can go back to drooling over it.
You are correct, there is no way to turn it on/off unless you remove the battery.
Puddentain
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Yes, but to actually turn it on your pocket would need to hold the button in for an extended period of time. I”ve never worried about that at all. A momentary “press” would result in the buzz indicating power level. You’ve got to press and hold for the heater to engage.
I'll give you one guess what's been happening to me the last couple of days when out of the house. It may be more of an edge case for others, but that doesn't mean it isn't an issue for some.
Sorry, missed this, what metric are you using to define this? I ask cos you've used some dubious ones already.
Puddentain
Well-Known Member
Ouch- hot pockets but not in a good way! Sorry to hear this.
Yeah, cos I'll be walking I'll miss the buzzes. And with all that being said, I've taken it out with me today cos I've got a bag with me so I can carry the batteries seperate to the vape and it's really hard to show it off if I don't have it!
The 7, 8, and 9 did not have a dedicated off switch. I don’t think any of the prior iterations had one either but I am not 100% sure.
They did not, but the button being ever so slightly recessed appears to have mitigated the problem a lot for me with them as I can swipe my finger across them and not fire em, whereas the F.A.T. X goes off every time.
WhyWhyWhy?
Active Member
You *think* that's.
I have already done this - I have explained it many times above. Reread it, there are all the answers, instead of clinging to me.
I will receive 2 FATX with chambers 3/8 and 1/2 . I will use 3/8 with built-in storage, and 1/2 with metal capsules. I'll describe here which option I liked the most.
The fw1 had a window into the chamber too. By all accounts it was useless, but it was there, and now it's back!
With all due respect, you tried to invoke hot air rising as justification that your capsule idea would work. I am more than happy for you to go at it, but when you're saying things are "ideal", I don't think I'm being outrageous by asking what metric you're using.You *think* that's.
I have already done this - I have explained it many times above. Reread it, there are all the answers, instead of clinging to me.
I will receive 2 FATX with chambers 3/8 and 1/2 . I will use 3/8 with built-in storage, and 1/2 with metal capsules. I'll describe here which option I liked the most.
vapviking
Old & In the Way
Question for @WhyWhyWhy?
Is English you primary language?
I'm curious, because I think there is maybe just a mis-use of the word "ideal."
Ideal implies perfection, the absolute best.
Using this word makes it sound like you have found perfection, and that is hard to accept given that you have not used this vaporizer at all, let alone with any capsule in it.
Further, something that works great for you may be a dud for someone else. Calling your way "ideal" does not appear to consider other people's experiences.
But, yes, we'll all be interested in how your comparison goes, in what works well for you.
Is English you primary language?
I'm curious, because I think there is maybe just a mis-use of the word "ideal."
Ideal implies perfection, the absolute best.
Using this word makes it sound like you have found perfection, and that is hard to accept given that you have not used this vaporizer at all, let alone with any capsule in it.
Further, something that works great for you may be a dud for someone else. Calling your way "ideal" does not appear to consider other people's experiences.
But, yes, we'll all be interested in how your comparison goes, in what works well for you.
moondog
It's an obsession but it's pleasin'
Pity the poor designer/builder.
Marc releases vapes with small, slightly recessed buttons and a good number of people complain/mention that they are hard to use and "fiddly" and "it would be good if the button were bigger and not so recessed."
Then he releases a vape with a bigger button that isn't so recessed and people are concerned because it's too easy to turn on inadvertently.
I'm not saying any of that feedback is not legitimate. I'm just sympathizing with a creator coming up against the impossibility of pleasing everybody in the modern online "let's-all-talk-about-this-together" world.
Thank you all for explaining that there really is no "off" function. That seems to me like an eccentric, verging on insane, design decision.
Sad because this looks like a really cool device otherwise, but i have no use for any battery-operated devices with no "off" switch. I guess i can stop reading this thread now.
Sad because this looks like a really cool device otherwise, but i have no use for any battery-operated devices with no "off" switch. I guess i can stop reading this thread now.
WhyWhyWhy?
Active Member
It's hardly worth speaking for everyone. Some people are annoyed by my desire to try a new experience, namely to try a metal capsule in FATX, although even Mark wrote to me "it might work if you find a suitable capsule"
If we talk about suitable capsules for FATX, then I ASSUME that Hyperdyn capsules are best suited for FATX. Perhaps this tandem will be the ideal of all possible options. It's just my opinion and I'm not imposing it on anyone. I have highlighted "ASSUME" in caps so that you will hear me correctly this time and not waste your time delving into linguistics.
OK, I'm going to explain this to you one last time, and I don't want to answer your questions about the same thing anymore, which seems like a provocation.
The FATX heating chamber measures 11*8 up to the level of the air holes, while the Hyperden capsule measures 10.5*9. There is a possibility that the Hyperdyn capsule will not close the air travel and will work normally. Now we don't even have to talk about convection and grooves.
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vapviking
Old & In the Way
I apologize if I've frustrated you.
I've gone back and re-read a couple of your posts on the previous page and I see that you did allow that your were talking on speculation, and that you'd soon have the things on hand with which to try all this out.
This was my first post in your conversation about capsules, and while I admit I mis-spoke, and as you didn't answer my question (don't waste your time) now I also consider your all-caps a snarky response, I'm out.
Hagbard Celine
Well-Known Member
FW4 definitely uses a LONG PRESS to turn Off/On...
LONG PRESS turns vape on followed by haptic feedback pulses indicating the battery level
Another LONG PRESS results in pulses indicating battery level again, followed by another longer vibration that indicates the vape is now off
Bonesvapechi
Well-Known Member
I haven’t had that happen to me at all. How many things are you carrying with the FATX? I have my FATX in my pocket and even have my dog sit on my lap without any buzzes. Your button must be more sensitive
Shit Snacks
Milaana. Lana. LANA. LANAAAA! (TM2/TP80/BAK/FW9)
Honestly that seems to me like a total overreaction, this is not at all an eccentric or unusual design decision, pretty common especially for artisan vapes (mistvape had added a sliding power switch to his touch vape as it was requested, it became an option when ordering, most people did not want to pay extra for it, as it really was not necessary in normal use)... not insane
Everyone is entitled to their own opinions obviously, and clearly the Firewood devices have many fans, but as a more than casually curious potential buyer, any battery operated device intended to be portable that can't be turned off short of removing the battery is something that i will never buy. I was ready to order one as soon as it became possible, but no more.
Any chance that i might take it out of my pocket to take a hit, and find a dead battery from stuff bumping the button in my pocket/bag means no buy for me. Not to mention that accidental 18650 discharge seems like a potential fire hazard.
No off switch/function is an even a worse turn off (geddit?) for me than plastic parts or digital screens. And those are two things that gross me out big-time.
Any chance that i might take it out of my pocket to take a hit, and find a dead battery from stuff bumping the button in my pocket/bag means no buy for me. Not to mention that accidental 18650 discharge seems like a potential fire hazard.
No off switch/function is an even a worse turn off (geddit?) for me than plastic parts or digital screens. And those are two things that gross me out big-time.
Shit Snacks
Milaana. Lana. LANA. LANAAAA! (TM2/TP80/BAK/FW9)
Then maybe you should have done more research before becoming so interested in something that never would have interested you? I think you've actually explained your feelings on this matter enough times...
Um, OK- i should have found out that this device has no "off" switch before i found out that it has no "off" switch? How does that work anyway?
Yes, i now know that i was a fool to assume that this vape could be turned off, like literally all other battery devices i have ever used or heard of in my life before today. But how was i supposed to know that, before i found that out?