Pax - All Models

StellarLarve

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Hi,

I purchased a Pax Plus a few weeks ago. It was totally not planned nor thought, I saw it in a shop… et voilà.

My only other vapes experiences are a Dynavap Omni XL and a Vapman that I have been using for years. I had been toying for a while with the idea of an electronic vape, despite my initial reticence, rationalizing the VAS with the idea of frequent CBD taste sessions, dog walks, hikes… I had almost decided for a TM2, but too big, too expensive, and too much for my super low tolerance.

All in all, I like it. The design is super nice in a sea of ugly plastic things, the form factor is brilliant, use is a no-brainer… But… I reluctantly have to admit I am not impressed by the performance. I am under the impression that the Pax is way less efficient than my Omni or Vapman. Broadly speaking, I feel I am half as baked with at least twice the amount of weed.

I am using the half bowl on the Pax, that seems already gigantic compared to my two old trusty companions, and sure, I can sip for a while instead of clearing the bowl in one-two hit, and the effects are there… but if I compare the effects, I feel I should be waaaay more «medicated» with that amount. It is a bit underwhelming to «waste» +0.25g of herb, to be way less baked than with less than 0.1. It will end up for CBD sessions, after all :lol:

So… is that normal/expected?

Thanks for your input.
 

maremaresing

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It sounds like you are using and enjoying the pax plus the same way that I use and enjoy my pax 2! Half bowl lid is the way to go to get the best performance, I feel.

I think the pax gets a bad rap for being "wasteful" of herb, because of sticker shock loading so much into it, as well as people using it incorrectly. Sounds like you are using it correctly, though!

You left out a very important bit of information; what temps are you hitting and what does your abv look like at the end. The chemicals don't have anywhere to go but in the herb, in your body, or wasted puffing into the air.

I think that devices like the dynavap and vapman promote microdosing, and deliver high temp full spectrum by default. Microdosing as method can deliver surprisingly good effects off of less. Pax is not a microdoser, for sure.

Personally, I use my pax 2 on two petal setting, and let it build heat over a whole session. Abv comes out evenly dark brown. I'm usually vaping the entire .25g load in a single, long, lazy session. I'm also blowing vapor clouds for fun, puffing on it like a joint, and just generally purposely being wasteful of the CBD. That said, I feel like it gets me about as high as that same amount of CBD does in my other vapes, and extracts far more than other electronic conduction vapes I've tried.

In short, idk?
 

Maryjanie

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It sounds like you are using and enjoying the pax plus the same way that I use and enjoy my pax 2! Half bowl lid is the way to go to get the best performance, I feel.

I think the pax gets a bad rap for being "wasteful" of herb, because of sticker shock loading so much into it, as well as people using it incorrectly. Sounds like you are using it correctly, though!

You left out a very important bit of information; what temps are you hitting and what does your abv look like at the end. The chemicals don't have anywhere to go but in the herb, in your body, or wasted puffing into the air.

I think that devices like the dynavap and vapman promote microdosing, and deliver high temp full spectrum by default. Microdosing as method can deliver surprisingly good effects off of less. Pax is not a microdoser, for sure.

Personally, I use my pax 2 on two petal setting, and let it build heat over a whole session. Abv comes out evenly dark brown. I'm usually vaping the entire .25g load in a single, long, lazy session. I'm also blowing vapor clouds for fun, puffing on it like a joint, and just generally purposely being wasteful of the CBD. That said, I feel like it gets me about as high as that same amount of CBD does in my other vapes, and extracts far more than other electronic conduction vapes I've tried.

In short, idk?
Where are you all finding CBD flower? I can't find it in the dispensaries around me in FL. I'd like to order some but I am also a medical user and prefer organic or at least a very trusted source with labs- not minute market stash.
 
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vapviking

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Where are you all finding CBD flower? I can't find it in the dispensaries around me in FL. I'd like to order some but I am also a medical user and prefer organic or at least a very trusted source with labs- not minute market stash.
You might pose this same question over here

I think mail-order CBD hemp is legal now in US. Growers have got it tasting pretty good. I admit though I've not been taken by the hemp wave, having tried the THCA hemp also available legally online.

I don't have enough experience with specific vendors to direct you to one, I'm sure someone will chime in on that other thread. Start at the beginning, it's a relatively short one.
 
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Maryjanie

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You might pose this same question over here

I think mail-order CBD hemp is legal now in US. Growers have got it tasting pretty good. I admit though I've not been taken by the hemp wave, having tried the THCA hemp also available legally online.

I don't have enough experience with specific vendors to direct you to one, I'm sure someone will chime in on that other thread. Start at the beginning, it's a relatively short one.
Thank you. When I click on the link it's giving me an error page. What's the title of the thread?
 
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Thank you. When I click on the link it's giving me an error page. What's the title of the thread?
Apologies, I didn't test my link.
I think I've successfully updated that link, it should lead to this:

 

Maryjanie

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So damn. I got a slightly used pax 3 from potv for $109. I am pissed that I can not access the web or phone app. Didnt know that b4 I ordered. Web app is only available for MAC users now and Pax says they are reconstructing the app but has no date to expect it to work which says to me they aren't doing shit. It's gonna die. So, do I keep this 3 or trade it for a mini or a plus? I will never smoke a whole bowl this size. I'll need a half pack lid or less. Lol. I am not a baller. For those of you that have tried different models, I'm wondering if I should just keep this 3 and get a half pack lid and a new 3D screen or trade for the plus since it comes with these items anyway. Potv has them slightly used for $149 and by the time I order these extra items & pay shipping for them It's gonna cost me about the same either way. Or heck they have the mini for $95. I'm bout ready to just get a refund bc what kind of company kills an app when so many people still use this product that is supposed to last for 10 years?!!! Ugh!
 
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Razzle_N_Dazzle

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what kind of company kills an app when so many people still use this product that is supposed to last for 10 years?!!! Ugh!
The blame isn't entirely on them. The app got caught in the crossfire of the "all vape bad" campaign that happened a couple years ago. It took too much brain power for people to distinguish the difference between flavored nicotine vapes and DHVs. With that being said, if you have an Android you can download the APK I think. I don't have a 3 so I haven't bothered looking for it.
 
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Madtater

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So damn. I got a slightly used pax 3 from potv for $109. I am pissed that I can not access the web or phone app. Didnt know that b4 I ordered. Web app is only available for MAC users now and Pax says they are reconstructing the app but has no date to expect it to work which says to me they aren't doing shit. It's gonna die. So, do I keep this 3 or trade it for a mini or a plus? I will never smoke a whole bowl this size. I'll need a half pack lid or less. Lol. I am not a baller. For those of you that have tried different models, I'm wondering if I should just keep this 3 and get a half pack lid and a new 3D screen or trade for the plus since it comes with these items anyway. Potv has them slightly used for $149 and by the time I order these extra items & pay shipping for them It's gonna cost me about the same either way. Or heck they have the mini for $95. I'm bout ready to just get a refund bc what kind of company kills an app when so many people still use this product that is supposed to last for 10 years?!!! Ugh!
My connect browser still works for my wife’s pax era pro. That is the same “app” i used with my old pax3 that i sold.
 
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Maryjanie

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My connect browser still works for my wife’s pax era pro. That is the same “app” i used with my old pax3 that i sold.
The pax era pro still works. The regular era no longer works either. The pro is the only one. I found it on their website. They have literally turned the others off and I think they're lying when they say they're working on it. They just want people to buy the new ones.

The blame isn't entirely on them. The app got caught in the crossfire of the "all vape bad" campaign that happened a couple years ago. It took too much brain power for people to distinguish the difference between flavored nicotine vapes and DHVs. With that being said, if you have an Android you can download the APK I think. I don't have a 3 so I haven't bothered looking for it.
Android nor Apple apps work anymore. The web based app now only works for Era pro. They have disabled the Era and the Pax 3. At least for new owners anyway. I wrote their customer service and they said the web app for Era and Pax 3 only works for MAC users now which I am not. Neither of the phone apps work anymore.
 
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Pablo13

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I've had a 3 since the start of the year with no app. Read the last few messages earlier and thought why not, so took the risk and downloaded an apk. So far, it all seems to work fine. So it's there if you want it and are willing to install apps from places other than the play store.
 
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Maryjanie

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I've had a 3 since the start of the year with no app. Read the last few messages earlier and thought why not, so took the risk and downloaded an apk. So far, it all seems to work fine. So it's there if you want it and are willing to install apps from places other than the play store.
Well I had never heard of an apk but I looked it up and found the app and downloaded it!!!! Thank you soooooo much! I'm going to go set it up and play now.
 
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