The Tempest by Mad Heaters & Phatpiggie

[Alligator427]

Nice collection! Which ones would you rate highest?

Depend what I want. I like the tempest v1 for small quantity, the TA3 for the big cloud. Anvil is also a good boy, but I use it less since I have the TA3 and the tempest.
Finally I have a little bit time to test the tempest V2 jus now


Edit : And one bowl later ...
I tryed 260C with wand = combustion
245C until the light stop = big cloud, but little bite agressiv for me.
I have to test 240 or maybe even 235.

Airflow is very nice even with the stem (I remove the spiral). No stacking like the TA3 that is nice with bang. I like this holes in the middle of the bowl for that.
I had some problem to unscrew with the magnet. The magnet become also quickly hot compare with the v1. I will see if it is possible to use a glass wpa despite the heat.

 

[Dirigible_Molecule]

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I will see if it is possible to use a glass wpa despite the heat.

Absolutely, works very well for me in glass, I do use a 14-8mm adapter, rather that should break than the piece itself 8) No breaks so far.

 

[n0tu2]

Depend what I want. I like the tempest v1 for small quantity, the TA3 for the big cloud. Anvil is also a good boy, but I use it less since I have the TA3 and the tempest.
Finally I have a little bit time to test the tempest V2 jus now


Edit : And one bowl later ...
I tryed 260C with wand = combustion
245C until the light stop = big cloud, but little bite agressiv for me.
I have to test 240 or maybe even 235.

Airflow is very nice even with the stem (I remove the spiral). No stacking like the TA3 that is nice with bang. I like this holes in the middle of the bowl for that.
I had some problem to unscrew with the magnet. The magnet become also quickly hot compare with the v1. I will see if it is possible to use a glass wpa despite the heat.

When you are connecting/screwing a fresh bowl/stem to the head - screw it in gently (hardly any/no force behind your turns) and let it go/stop turning it any further as soon as it stops turning. Do not use any force or pressure to tighten it to the head at all. It's secure as soon as it is all the way down on the threads. If you tighten it to the head at all the whole unit incl. head will spin on the reload magnet when trying to open.

This makes it way easier to unscrew when you place it on the reload or a magnet after a sesh.. No force nessesary at all to open it (same for v1) i just turn opposite direction and head stays put on reload/magnet. i got into the habit of holding the reload with the tempest upsidown to unscrew it then put the reload down with the head attached to cool and dump the avb.. just make sure your balls are secure if upsidown .. lol.. i just find there is no avb spillage this way.. everyone has their own rituals tho.. as long as it works for you - imo the reload or something similar is a must have.

 

[cybrguy]

I bought a second Tempest 1 head so that I could leave it permanently mated to a glass adapter for using on glass/water pieces. That's how I used it most of the time at home. Without an adapter the stem tended to get gunky because of the vapor path so it required more cleaning if I used it directly on glass pieces.
The Tempest 2, on the other hand, has a vapor path that is more direct and collects much less reclaim and is much easier to clean, so it isn't a problem to use the head while still on the stem for use at home. Most of my glass pieces have an 19mm joint, so I was a little concerned with the 19mm connection being on the heat shield as I thought it might get sticky quickly, but it doesn't. I really do like the new design.

 

[BushRanger]

Messing around

Watch T2 with glass | Streamable

Watch "T2 with glass" on Streamable.

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[Fearless Disaster]

Messing around

Watch T2 with glass | Streamable

Watch "T2 with glass" on Streamable.

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I still love those hooks you got!

 

[Alligator427]

A finally had a smooth and tasty vape at 240C. I am surprised to see that the wand stop to flash faster than with the v1. Maybe I should try with the new wand adaptator. The AVB still quite green. I should try also a heat in two step with the wand, like with the TA3, to store more heat in the head.

 

[Minsc_NBoo]

Edit : And one bowl later ...
I tryed 260C with wand = combustion
245C until the light stop = big cloud, but little bite agressiv for me.
I have to test 240 or maybe even 235.

Are you using the new wand adaptor? I've got mine set up so the little markers on the cap protrude about 2mm over the glass rim of the wand

I can go between 280—310c on auto mode and still have the AVB come out light brown

https://imgur.com/a/vMouNwG

 

[Dirigible_Molecule]

I have always set the Wand to over 400C, remember it's just a timer, and hit it on auto until the click and see the indicator if music is on. A few flashes past that if needed or reheat to fully extract.

Full bowl btw. Dark ABV. Rarely combust, usually operator zoned out error 8-)

 

[Alligator427]

Are you using the new wand adaptor? I've got mine set up so the little markers on the cap protrude about 2mm over the glass rim of the wand

I can go between 280—310c on auto mode and still have the AVB come out light brown

https://imgur.com/a/vMouNwG

I used the v1 adaptator for the moment, but I am at the same height than your picture. Big difference with the new adaptator ?

 

[Alligator427]

When you are connecting/screwing a fresh bowl/stem to the head - screw it in gently (hardly any/no force behind your turns) and let it go/stop turning it any further as soon as it stops turning. Do not use any force or pressure to tighten it to the head at all. It's secure as soon as it is all the way down on the threads. If you tighten it to the head at all the whole unit incl. head will spin on the reload magnet when trying to open.

This makes it way easier to unscrew when you place it on the reload or a magnet after a sesh.. No force nessesary at all to open it (same for v1) i just turn opposite direction and head stays put on reload/magnet. i got into the habit of holding the reload with the tempest upsidown to unscrew it then put the reload down with the head attached to cool and dump the avb.. just make sure your balls are secure if upsidown .. lol.. i just find there is no avb spillage this way.. everyone has their own rituals tho.. as long as it works for you - imo the reload or something similar is a must have.

After some use, the problem disapear.

 

[hausland]

I used the v1 adaptator for the moment, but I am at the same height than your picture. Big difference with the new adaptator ?

I use the V1 adapter and have my Wand set to 285C for a nice brown roast or 290C for a dark roast. Always till the “Time Over” msg, it usually clicks a second time right there and then without fail every time.

When I reheat a bowl for a second time while still hot, obviously that doesn’t work (as it is already hot), so I use the Wand in manual mode for a few seconds, then check and repeat if necessary. The only time I’ve combusted with the V2 is when I reheated for too long. I have the standard zirconia balls in mine.

 

[Minsc_NBoo]

I used the v1 adaptator for the moment, but I am at the same height than your picture. Big difference with the new adaptator ?

I wouldn't say it's a big difference, just slightly more efficient. I think it's easier to get an even roast too. There is no glass or silicone inside the wand so all the heat goes directly into the balls

 

[jay87]

I'll throw out there I've been using my Tempest 2 pretty much daily since I got it and I love it.

The biggest thing I've learned is that it is very consistent, but there are a lot of variables that change a lot of the vapor experience that I'm still dialing in.

What I've found is that things like tighter/looser pack, wand depth, wand temperature(timer), dryness of material, open/closed head, open/closed stem, adding concentrate or not, all of those things have a significant effect on my vapor experience so it's important for me to be very specific about each part to make sure I get the experience I want.

Once you have it dialed in, it's perfectly consistent and second nature, but for me due to wanting to be thorough it takes a lot of experimentation to get things exactly how I want. But the benefit is the Tempest 2 allows you to change all of those variables however you want so the freedom is yours!


For me so far I've only "mastered" 1 configuration which is my go-to for now. The rubies seem to be the most difficult to cause me to combust so I've started dialing those in to start with an "easier" setup.

Ruby balls
Fully open head airpath
Closed stem airpath
Packed fully as loose as possible, add small drop of concentrate, small amount of flower on top to sandwich very very lightly
Wand 325C
Wand depth seated Tempest 2 with about 50%-60% of the head grooves covered up so the wand entry sits right at that 50%-60% mark of the wand grooves

Heat til timeout, enjoy on water in ~1-2 hits

That works perfect for me every time, but I'm definitely still dialing it in and experimenting with all of those variables, and when I switch to a different ball type I'm gonna test out everything again

 

[cybrguy]

When I reheat a bowl for a second time while still hot, obviously that doesn’t work (as it is already hot), so I use the Wand in manual mode for a few seconds, then check and repeat if necessary. The only time I’ve combusted with the V2 is when I reheated for too long. I have the standard zirconia balls in mine.

At home, I am mostly using my Tempest 2 on a water piece. I usually heat it in the wand till it clicks and then stick it on the glass to take my hit. If I have intentionally not completed the bowl and I want to reheat the load I bring the wand up to the vape on the water piece, heat it for a few seconds, and then start drawing on the water pipe until I see vapor coming out of the Tempest. Works perfectly and I don't have to time it. That same method works great if I want a second bowl while the Tempest is still hot. Draw on the Tempest with the Wand engaged until vapor appears.

 

[Fearless Disaster]

At home, I am mostly using my Tempest 2 on a water piece. I usually heat it in the wand till it clicks and then stick it on the glass to take my hit. If I have intentionally not completed the bowl and I want to reheat the load I bring the wand up to the vape on the water piece, heat it for a few seconds, and then start drawing on the water pipe until I see vapor coming out of the Tempest. Works perfectly and I don't have to time it. That same method works great if I want a second bowl while the Tempest is still hot. Draw on the Tempest with the Wand engaged until vapor appears.

I'm going to try this for reheats, thanks!

 

[cybrguy]

Let us know how it works for you.

 

[ahm123]

wanted to mention i received the new cooling unit as well as updated bowl & ball retaining screens. i must say this thing is pretty much as good as it gets now! zero complaints. @Brenyo is a damn legend

 

[sentabi]

hello guys, i recorded a review of the device, just wanted to share in case anyone wants to check it out

 

[n0tu2]

hello guys, i recorded a review of the device, just wanted to share in case anyone wants to check it out

Good vid. I heard you say you can't really taste the strains.. Yeah at that high of temp all terps are gone/burned off in the 1st few seconds of 1st hit.. more like a combustion feel to the vapor at high temps in the successive hits..

With a fresh bowl.. try heating using just the indicator to a little before the first dot. like a few seconds right before the 1st click would normally come.. it should still continue to rise in temp after you stop heating at that point and maybe even click or not. hit then.. flavor town.. of course the vapor will be thinner and airy at lower temps (but more tasty) reheat even less then the 1st time and get more flavor hits on 2nd and 3rd hit.. Then go to the 2nd click to finish it off in the cleanup hit (all assuming you want to taste it more - even stopping on the 2nd click exactly should be more tasty) else just go max and finish it in all in one or two hits and be done with the bowl

 

[cybrguy]

hello guys, i recorded a review of the device, just wanted to share in case anyone wants to check it out

I enjoyed your review. I also always get a huge kick of watching people do reviews with THC laden goods and watching them get higher and higher as they test the device. Testing with CBD or herbs seems like cheating to me...

 

[kokolokokolokon]

Testing with CBD or herbs seems like cheating to me...

i have to say I use to make the reviews with cbd, and i can tell you something: if it works great with cbd, not top notch cbd, normal cbd, then it works even better with thc.
I like to try the vapes with cbd first because of this. If i say “wow, this thing kicks and make huge clouds” then i know it is a win-win with thc

 

[cybrguy]

Oh, I get it. The truth is, now that I'm a microdoser, to do a decent review video I would have to get so much higher than I normally get that I probably wouldn't even be able to speak by the end of it. Well, I'd be able to speak, but you might not be able to understand me.

 

[Datoneguy]

So I only have done a handful of bowls so far.

First, I love the purple, was wanting the blue but am glad to have the purple, looks great in person.
The device feels bulky compared to the first, this is obvious from what it looks like though lol.

One issue I had which is a downer is my clicks seem to not work. The second click comes in very soon after the first one (at least compared to tempest 1). It's 3 blinks on the wand vs 7 or 8 like the tempest 1. Might be normal but I feel like it isn't. I was following till the second click like I do with my tempest 1, but the roast on my avb was very light and nearly green when doing this. So idk I'm hoping I can get this fixed because I relied heavily on the clicks for my T1 and the T2 is not letting me rely on clicks at all. That's the one and only gripe I have atm. It's a tough one because I've started using the T1 heavily recenlty and I can't help but compare the user experience of being able to rely on audio as I look around waiting on the wand, instead of having to change numbers and stare at the wand until it's done blinking.

Regardless, I started taking out the device and observing the visual indicator instead (never did this with t1) and the green indicator makes it easy to see, so that's good lol. I stop it around the second mark usually and then vape.

I have used the wand with the first adapter at about 605 and some times add a little more heat on top depending on the visual indicator. I have gotten incredibly even roasts and the vapor is plentiful. I am using the smallest bowl setting on the t1 and t2. I thought the t2 would be another good microdoser like my t1, but atm I'm pretty convinced it might be a little too powerful to be using in the same way I use the t1. The difference in the amount of vapor and maybe the effects (need to test more) is notable. So atm I'm relegating the t2 to nightime use personally lol, maybe someday I'll try it as a daytime doser but this thing packs quite the punch imo.

I've done 2 sessons with 3 bowls each and the effects are some of the more intense I've had in some time. It's quick and effective. I do think the high is heavier than the t1 but I need to test this out more. I have had some heavy high convection vapes before that I never got along with (p80) and I find the effects to sometimes lack the headiness of less heavy convection (idk, that's what I notice at least). The T2 I find to still have that headiness to go along with the heavier effects, so I'm happy it so far seems to satisfy in numerous ways.

I have only used it for a couple nights so far, so I need to play with it more before drawing more conclusions. But I did want to mention the click issue here and the fact that this vape has a signature that's pretty distinct from the T1. I have also used a jhook exclusively with the t2 and the t1 only native, that might play into things as well. I just think although the vape is a sequel to the first, it almost feels like it's in the different vape category almost. Sort of like the convector ti vs convector xl, similiar in some ways but also drastically different. Idk, maybe it's not that distinct a difference. I just think the T2 upgrade from the T1 is worth considering. Also, sorry to fuel vas lmao, I'm just quite satisfied with this one extra vape I did not need lol.

 

[Dirigible_Molecule]

So I only have done a handful of bowls so far.

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One issue I had which is a downer is my clicks seem to not work. The second click comes in very soon after the first one (at least compared to tempest 1). It's 3 blinks on the wand vs 7 or 8 like the tempest 1. Might be normal but I feel like it isn't. I was following till the second click like I do with my tempest 1, but the roast on my avb was very light and nearly green when doing this. So idk I'm hoping I can get this fixed because I relied heavily on the clicks for my T1 and the T2 is not letting me rely on clicks at all. That's the one and only gripe I have atm. It's a tough one because I've started using the T1 heavily recenlty and I can't help but compare the user experience of being able to rely on audio as I look around waiting on the wand, instead of having to change numbers and stare at the wand until it's done blinking.

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The discs need time to settle down, a few just work as expected immediatley. My Ti and Green T2 both took a week to be accurate.

If they don't strip the top part of the head down and check for burrs or debris on the spring, pointer and the head interior.

Enjoy!