Tafée Bowle

[TigoleBitties]

I wish, but its the same strains I've been using for awhile.

Most likely I'm just too sensitive.... I'm normally a mouth to lung dude with my other pieces. Fairly low tolerance as well, only vaping 2-3 times a week.

Yea as far as I know I'm the only person who's had this issue so I think its probably a "me" problem. Almost everyone everywhere talks about how smooth the vapor is (they are true! I don't cough at all), but for some reason this irratation only happens with the Bowle. I use temp settings 3 and 4

I think the extra terps may be playing a role because they can definitely irritate the throat. You're correct in thinking that convection devices may also irritate the throat as they generally require longer draws of very hot air. There are some things you can do to mitigate this though.

First, I would keep your stem clean as much as possible. Dirty stems can irritate your throat. Then I would try taking side breaths or "pipe puffs" during your draw to help with reducing inhaled air temp.

Also, a higher temp like level 4 may sometimes be easier on your throat than level 3. Level 4 temps will vaporize your material faster leading to a shorter draw of hot air. You can kill the heater any time you like during the draw to account for things getting too hot for your throat.

Have a look at this thread. Hope it helps.

Tafée Bowle

Just received my Bowle tonight and very excited to try it out. I received the short and stubby stem with my order and the short stem has the finish slightly rubbing off in a few areas. My stubby stem looks perfect. Should I be concerned about this? I read some posts from much earlier where...

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[BH491]

Any makers on here who'd consider working with me to make this more accessible? A whip attachment would be amazin

I feel like ive seen a ton of people want some form of wpa for the tb1 and 2.
Maybe i saw once or twice that someone figured out some diy, but i can't remember and i dont think ive ever seen specifics.

Its always bothered me, how can this be? that people with all their vapes and accessories, cant find some silicone tubing wide enough to stretch around the mp and connect a whip in that?
Even just a regular whip can stretch quite a bit, and might stetch over the mp, but theres wider whips and tubing available.

Can it really be no ones tried this?

I thought maybe most just dont like silicone, so no ones gonna ruin the flavor of the tb with a silicone tube, but idk that doesnt make too much sense as plenty do use whips.

Or does nothing common stretch wide enough?

I guess this is a question for everyone else, and no help to you, but if no one has tried this(which is hard to imagine), maybe just need to find some wider or more stretchy tubing...

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[dimmusp]

You're correct in thinking that convection devices may also irritate the throat as they generally require longer draws of very hot air.

That's very interesting, and makes intuitive sense.

But then why does almost everyone say that the Bowle has the smoothest vapor of all and doesn't even need a water pipe?

Wouldn't vapes with more conduction like S&B/Firewood/Arizer or Lamart (BAKx) be gentler on the throat and lungs?

 

[TigoleBitties]

That's very interesting, and makes intuitive sense.

But then why does almost everyone say that the Bowle has the smoothest vapor of all and doesn't even need a water pipe?

Wouldn't vapes with more conduction like S&B/Firewood/Arizer or Lamart (BAKx) be gentler on the throat and lungs?

The Bowle just happens to have very effective native cooling. The entire stem is anodized aluminum, a metal that conducts heat readily and absorbs a lot of the heat from the vapor. The real magic happens at the 90deg bend where the metal is thicker and there is maximum turbulence to absorb the most heat. The flat, wide rectangular shape also maximizes the surface area that comes into contact with the vapor and cools it more before reaching the mouthpiece.

In general, hybrid vapes require less of a long draw and overall less effort to coax vapor out of your flower. They can be easier on your throat by minimizing the length of your draw, but this isn't the whole story. If the stem doesn't provide enough cooling then your throat will still suffer. Also, due to the uneven heating nature of some hybrid ovens (really hot near the oven walls but less hot in the middle), this can cause some acrid vapor that's near combustion temps and is almost smoke-like and irritating with a poor taste.

 

[dimmusp]

Just got a reply from Tafée! What a class act.

Thank you for your message and for your thoughtful questions.

Please accept our sincere apologies for the delayed response as your message was incorrectly flagged.


Bowle Series II was engineered with both performance and safety in mind, using only carefully selected materials throughout the air and aerosol path.


The air and aerosol path in Bowle Series II includes the following materials:


Aluminum and stainless steel (Stem and device enclosure)

Ceramics (used in the device engine and pots)

High-temperature food-grade silicone gaskets (used to ensure tight airflow seals between components)


Importantly, there are no plastics like PEEK used in the air or aerosol path.


The heating element is constructed from a proprietary ratio of biocompatible-metal alloy, fully isolated from electronics for consistent, reliable performance and pure aerosol delivery.


Regarding your question about the glass drinkware, we are finalizing the production plans of our glass drinkware and expect it to announce availability via our newsletter and website.


We appreciate your interest and hope to get the opportunity to deliver you with pleasant aromatherapy with Bowle

 

[Dr. G]

That's very interesting, and makes intuitive sense.

But then why does almost everyone say that the Bowle has the smoothest vapor of all and doesn't even need a water pipe?

Wouldn't vapes with more conduction like S&B/Firewood/Arizer or Lamart (BAKx) be gentler on the throat and lungs?

I always thought it was the other way around...that the smoother of the two was the convection...go figure. I learned something today....

 

[Con Rodeo]

First, I would keep your stem clean as much as possible. Dirty stems can irritate your throat. Then I would try taking side breaths or "pipe puffs" during your draw to help with reducing inhaled air temp.

Also, a higher temp like level 4 may sometimes be easier on your throat than level 3. Level 4 temps will vaporize your material faster leading to a shorter draw of hot air. You can kill the heater any time you like during the draw to account for things getting too hot for your throat.

Taking a little time off from vaping to let the irritation / possible inflammation completely go away before I get back to it. But these are good tips! Thank you!

Regarding the "pipe puffs", you don't worry about screwing up the sensor by having the fire button going but no air flow for that brief second?

 

[Shit Snacks]

That's very interesting, and makes intuitive sense.

But then why does almost everyone say that the Bowle has the smoothest vapor of all and doesn't even need a water pipe?

Because that's a useless metric? You are not taking into account what each of those people are comparing it to, taking a full tally of those who disagree etc... so this is just a perception you focused on (water pipes don't make things better by default either, many people like me say how they want more connectivity from TB, so this will lead other people to reply that they think the TB is so smooth it doesn't need water, but it's not about being smooth or needing water... Sure there are some people that maybe relied on that stuff and now don't need it with TB, but again that is subjective, don't know what else they're comparing it to or other variables and everyone is different) yes it has a built-in right angle hook with heating element above bowl, that is a smart pathway for a great use experience, however it is not unique to the TB can be done with others using a separate hook (Delta 3D even made an adapter so you could use other things like the Grasshopper with TB mouthpiece stem as hook, but that didn't appeal to me much as I would prefer different materials for hook and mouthpiece personally, like all glass)

Wouldn't vapes with more conduction like S&B/Firewood/Arizer or Lamart (BAKx) be gentler on the throat and lungs?

Yeah there are too many other factors, you've got temp settings and pathway, materials and other variables... Hybrid and conduction is much more harsh for me typically, whereas convection feels smoother with the open airflow, etc...

I always thought it was the other way around...that the smoother of the two was the convection...go figure. I learned something today....

It's totally subjective, but I feel the same way, convection is smoother always for me... Comparing one to one

 

[TigoleBitties]

Taking a little time off from vaping to let the irritation / possible inflammation completely go away before I get back to it. But these are good tips! Thank you!

You're most welcome. Hope you find a solution to the throat irritation.

Regarding the "pipe puffs", you don't worry about screwing up the sensor by having the fire button going but no air flow for that brief second?

Yeah, I'm not worried about it. As long as you're quick enough not to trip the sensor I think you're good. This is based on the fact that the airflow sensor timeout is a couple of seconds for a reason. The heater can handle a brief period with no airflow and the pipe puffs not only help with taming the vapor but they allow the smell to permeate your senses while you're drawing, enhancing taste.