Camouflet Ceramo XL

[n0tu2]

Well I consider this a faulty component. Let's see if we get replacement ones sent out

Tested. It's not the Ceramo.. It's 100% the cap itself causing it. Mine whines/hisses as well. Sounds like whiney air movement. OG cap does not do this. I removed the cap and held it with a pair of tweezers by a tooth and inserted for a quick second. As soon as the heater engages the noise comes. Materials must be different inside.. maybe the heater plates are not the same. now I want a new cap as well. It should not do that.

 

[zeebudz]

The OG cap is titanium with stainless plates. The new cap is all stainless.

 

[heater]

$139 on 'sale'. What are the odds that when it moves to 'regular' price of $179 it includes the mp and balls?

 

[SlickHenry]

The OG cap is titanium with stainless plates. The new cap is all stainless.

Ah yes that is most likely it. I don't think it's defective just the different material. I sure prefer titanium though.

 

[popitup]

They sent me a chipped ceramo.
And they didn't sent thr super capacitor.

Same, but they did email me about the missing super capacitor.

My chip is more of an imperfection on the edge that touches the mouth. I can't really feel it with my lips, though.

I agree with a lot of the other recent feedback.

 

[n0tu2]

Ah yes that is most likely it. I don't think it's defective just the different material. I sure prefer titanium.

Agree.. me too. but I wonder if they did something different inside with the welds.. not sure how all stainless would resonate like that. Maybe a couple less heater plates or smaller in diameter (factory screwed them over) and they vibrate now, or not welded down with the same process as the titanium cap.. Only Camouflet can answer this or it's all speculation, not gonna break open the cap to look, lol.. but they may have a case with the factory for poor quality or cutting some corners here right? It's not unusual for these china factories to give you great production samples then cheap out on things in the full run, ya?

 

[oddjobold]

Does the super capacitor make these noises?

 

[n0tu2]

Does the super capacitor make these noises?

Good question.. Just tested. nope, dead silent.

somethings up with this new batch of caps. hope factory didn't pull a fast one.. few heater plates, rock, few plates, weld, lol. china special. gotta open and look.

 

[Cacahuates]

Good question.. Just tested. nope, dead silent.

somethings up with this new batch of caps. hope factory didn't pull a fast one.. few heater plates, rock, few plates, weld, lol. china special. gotta open and look.

I haven't experienced the screech or the spinning caps. I'll try to loosen it up or something. Gonna try some light hits with the ceramo. See if I she will grow on me. She's got one foot out the door as of now. The sc is a dud for me too. Doesn't make that much of a difference from the regular cap. Just takes longer to cool. Counter intuitive for my needs. Some people may like it. Does it have it's own thread too? Super capacitor! More mass! More energy to operate, more money... same effect! Fuck it, you'll buy it anyway.


Edit:
Ok I slammed it with the super cap for about 23 seconds on the wand. Nice big fluffy hits... but so hot after the 1st hit. Scrambled for the j-hook and the bottom of the hook got pretty warm.

Then I did the relaxed slow sesh. Nice tasty light hits... then when the fluffy vapour came so did the heat. I was surprised how many hits I got.



With the ceramo it's either White wall the glass piece, or light whispers.
This is what makes the cxl so versatile. You have these ends of the spectrum and a nice middle ground of big fluffy, tasty, COOL hits. If I can find that happy medium the ceramo's a hit.

No squealing or spin.


Also this thing is dead sexy and feels good in hand. Love the weight.

 

[Himothy]

Just got mine, anyone else's stem look like it was rushed through QC? Also the welds on my cap are horrific.

 

[Durbandream]

You are totally right. No screeching with the old camo cap that came with my CXL when used on the Ceramo XL. Looking at the two caps side by side there is a definite difference in appearance too.

https://imgur.com/a/w5v4bz8

The newer cap is on the right. As you can see there is some discolouration and markings despite only heating with the wand. Makes me think it is lesser quality.

Edit: just cooking on my induction hob and when turned up to max in makes the same screeching sound. It‘s a strange phenomenon.

Yeah, mine also developed some corrosion on top after maybe 3 uses with the IH, I thought I was going crazy. There's something up with the new caps and the quality of the metal makes me worry about what I'm inhaling. I'm a big fan of Camouflet but they need to replace these caps.

 

[Cacahuates]

You are totally right. No screeching with the old camo cap that came with my CXL when used on the Ceramo XL. Looking at the two caps side by side there is a definite difference in appearance too.

https://imgur.com/a/w5v4bz8

The newer cap is on the right. As you can see there is some discolouration and markings despite only heating with the wand. Makes me think it is lesser quality.

Edit: just cooking on my induction hob and when turned up to max in makes the same screeching sound. It‘s a strange phenomenon.

My new one looks like your old one. Maybe I got old stock. Your new one looks pretty beat up. I hope they didn't change the quality.

 

[n0tu2]

Just got mine, anyone else's stem look like it was rushed through QC? Also the welds on my cap are horrific.

Interesting on the welds. Prompted me to take a closer look at my og non-screeching cap compared to the new one more closely. At first glance the tiny air inlet holes on the top are not as perfectly lined up on the new cap compared to the og (first heat plate holes). The og isn't perfect either, but they are more centered. May have nothing to do with it tho.

The og seems to have 3 prominent weld points only. The new one has 6 prominent weld points that are staggered and of a smaller diameter then the og. The 3 welds closer to the top are an even smaller diameter then the bottom ones. I wonder if there is a small air gap between the layers that cause the outside of cap to vibrate and create the resonance. I don't think the wands induction field can heat the interior metal plates directly, just the surface - the field can't pass through the outer stainless layer. But the inductions magnetic field could be getting in slightly from the top most plate via the air inlet holes (barely) with just enough of an effect to cause the resonance due to the different staggered weld style below it..

Just another hypothesis to test but no way to really know without destroying the cap.. and even then might not tell us anything significant.. just a freak thing like a mystery rattle in your car, ha

 

[Himothy]

Interesting on the welds. Prompted me to take a closer look at my og non-screeching cap compared to the new one more closely. At first glance the tiny air inlet holes on the top are not as perfectly lined up on the new cap compared to the og (first heat plate holes). The og isn't perfect either, but they are more centered. May have nothing to do with it tho.

The og seems to have 3 prominent weld points only. The new one has 6 prominent weld points that are staggered and of a smaller diameter then the og. The 3 welds closer to the top are an even smaller diameter then the bottom ones. I wonder if there is a small air gap between the layers that cause the outside of cap to vibrate and create the resonance. I don't think the wands induction field can heat the interior metal plates directly, just the surface - the field can't pass through the outer stainless layer. But the inductions magnetic field could be getting in slightly from the top most plate via the air inlet holes (barely) with just enough of an effect to cause the resonance due to the different staggered weld style below it..

Just another hypothesis to test but no way to really know without destroying the cap.. and even then might not tell us anything significant.. just a freak thing like a mystery rattle in your car, ha

Between this and the chipped stem, this thing might end up in the trash sooner rather than later.

 

[Durbandream]

Interesting on the welds. Prompted me to take a closer look at my og non-screeching cap compared to the new one more closely. At first glance the tiny air inlet holes on the top are not as perfectly lined up on the new cap compared to the og (first heat plate holes). The og isn't perfect either, but they are more centered. May have nothing to do with it tho.

The og seems to have 3 prominent weld points only. The new one has 6 prominent weld points that are staggered and of a smaller diameter then the og. The 3 welds closer to the top are an even smaller diameter then the bottom ones. I wonder if there is a small air gap between the layers that cause the outside of cap to vibrate and create the resonance. I don't think the wands induction field can heat the interior metal plates directly, just the surface - the field can't pass through the outer stainless layer. But the inductions magnetic field could be getting in slightly from the top most plate via the air inlet holes (barely) with just enough of an effect to cause the resonance due to the different staggered weld style below it..

Just another hypothesis to test but no way to really know without destroying the cap.. and even then might not tell us anything significant.. just a freak thing like a mystery rattle in your car, ha

What bothers me more than the screeching is the corrosion that seems to be happening with induction heating. Does anyone using it with a torch see any strange wear on it?