The Tempest by Mad Heaters & Phatpiggie

Oden

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The V2 is slightly shorter, but the upgrade kit will include the correct size thicker sleeve and updated indicator housing.


There’s still plenty of wiggle room
This time in 2025, I'm going to buy a Tempest, and I'm really happy to see that this V2 will be a real improvement.
It's nice to see a manufacturer improving its product in such a short time 👍

Will the V2 be good and easy to use with a lighter?
I sold my wand since I bought the Forge, and I think the Forge will be too powerful for the Tempest... I'll figure that out later.
But I plan to use the V2 only with a lighter.
 

kokolokokolokon

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Will the V2 be good and easy to use with a lighter?
At least with triple flame, it is much easier. You dont need to spin it fast to avoid glowing. You need to spin it, but, with the added mass, you can make 1/2 turn every 3 seconds, or so, without spinning. I mean, you have the chance to dont spin it constantly, and it works well.
It is easier to see the VI now because the slow spining (or the method i said).
And it is easier to reheat the device since thicker layer retains the heat better. (In case you need it, because its easy to kill a full bowl with one heat).

I suppose it is the same experience if you use a bigger single flame. But you still need to aim the middle of the layer if the flame is big, to avoid the VI to be rushing.

(Also, the layer have a better looking after the heat up. It still have a "strange color" but not like the previous one, cleaner. With the wand, you don´t keep a cool bronze color, it goes to the other color fast, but again, it looks much nicer).
 

Wozz

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At least with triple flame, it is much easier. You dont need to spin it fast to avoid glowing. You need to spin it, but, with the added mass, you can make 1/2 turn every 3 seconds, or so, without spinning. I mean, you have the chance to dont spin it constantly, and it works well.
It is easier to see the VI now because the low spining (or the method i said).
And it is easier to reheat the device since thicker layer retains the heat better. (In case you need it, because its easy to kill a full bowl with one heat).

I suppose it is the same experience if you use a bigger single flame. But you still need to aim the middle of the layer if the flame is big, to avoid the VI to be rushing
You already have a Tempest 2?
 
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kokolokokolokon

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Or are there any other bowls compatible with the V1 head?
The new bowl/cap are not compatible with the old bowl/cap since the diameter is a bit wider.

How are you liking it so far?
I love it and it is not the final one :D Just talking about the head: better looking, better abv (or easier to get), it gets me more high than the v1, the bowl keeps the heat better (It is good for instant vapor or if you use hash), and cleaner. Also the VI is way easier to assemble and disassemble.
 

Alligator427

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The new bowl/cap are not compatible with the old bowl/cap since the diameter is a bit wider.


I love it and it is not the final one :D Just talking about the head: better looking, better abv (or easier to get), it gets me more high than the v1, the bowl keeps the heat better (It is good for instant vapor or if you use hash), and cleaner. Also the VI is way easier to assemble and disassemble.
Will be the head compatible with all the wand (there is some that have a narower hole). I aske that because I can't use my wand with the tornado by the side of the screen for example. Some are abble to do that.

How is the taste with the v2 head compare the v1 ?
 
Alligator427,

kokolokokolokon

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Can you comment on how the stem compares to the v1 stem?
It doesn´t cool as much as the V1 but the cooling is good. It retains less material. It is more simple, but way easier to clean since it has 4 pieces (one is the shield, so you dont need to clean it). It uses 1 o´ring, which is great too. Also the stem feels good in the hand, if the old one is a joint, this is a senior cigar :lol:

(You can read this with a sweet voice and subtitude "it" for "your Outtie" :lol::lol:)

It doesn´t has as much configurations as the revolve, and maybe a certain amount of people prefer the revolve aesthetics (I have a tempest v1 stem with a ts-woodenart wood shield and it looks incredible), as well some people who use the device natively, won´t take advantage of the wpa form factor.
BUT, the shield is easier to make (not as easy as an anvil shield) and it can give more "options" talking about design liberty. So artisans can make their magic on here, and the people who don´t use a bong, can "get rid of" the 18mm adapter in favor of a more classic or simple aesthetic.
 

RedZep

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It doesn´t cool as much as the V1 but the cooling is good. It retains less material. It is more simple, but way easier to clean since it has 4 pieces (one is the shield, so you dont need to clean it). It uses 1 o´ring, which is great too. Also the stem feels good in the hand, if the old one is a joint, this is a senior cigar :lol:

(You can read this with a sweet voice and subtitude "it" for "your Outtie" :lol::lol:)

It doesn´t has as much configurations as the revolve, and maybe a certain amount of people prefer the revolve aesthetics (I have a tempest v1 stem with a ts-woodenart wood shield and it looks incredible), as well some people who use the device natively, won´t take advantage of the wpa form factor.
BUT, the shield is easier to make (not as easy as an anvil shield) and it can give more "options" talking about design liberty. So artisans can make their magic on here, and the people who don´t use a bong, can "get rid of" the 18mm adapter in favor of a more classic or simple aesthetic.
Is the stem following a different cooling principle compared to the V1 at full cooling function? Is the vapour path no longer doubling back on itself?
 
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Brenyo

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It doesn´t cool as much as the V1 but the cooling is good.
The CU in the final one should cool as well as the V1, that's what I'm aiming for.
people who use the device natively, won´t take advantage of the wpa form factor
I only use it natively. The main purpose of it being wider in the right places is not just for 18mm compatibility, but also to try to completely avoid it getting hot after repeated use (especially with the extra heat capacity) which was one of the main complaints about the V1.

Is the stem following a different cooling principle compared to the V1 at full cooling function? Is the vapour path no longer doubling back on itself?
It's a twisted tape CU this time to keep costs down. However, it’s one of the longest and widest :brow:
The cooling ability will be better than most similar systems due to how it's constructed.
 

kokolokokolokon

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I only use it natively. The main purpose of it being wider in the right places is not just for 18mm compatibility, but also to try to completely avoid it getting hot after repeated use (especially with the extra heat capacity) which was one of the main complaints about the V1.
Sorry! I forgot talk about that point! Of course it feels great using it natively, and It helps to keep the stem cool. But if someone don´t use bongs and want to make a wood shield with a smaller diameter on that zone, i think it is not a problem. The point is the shield gives chances to make a lot of designs :rockon:
 

Brenyo

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Manufacturer
This is so exciting! How long until we get pics @Brenyo?
I'm not sure if I'll wait for the final pics or just do a render, probably next weekend the latest.

No worries about people getting upset at using the same design?
Some people will get upset either way. I’m just hoping that overall, this new, more affordable design will appeal to many more people.
 

RedZep

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The CU in the final one should cool as well as the V1, that's what I'm aiming for.

I only use it natively. The main purpose of it being wider in the right places is not just for 18mm compatibility, but also to try to completely avoid it getting hot after repeated use (especially with the extra heat capacity) which was one of the main complaints about the V1.


It's a twisted tape CU this time to keep costs down. However, it’s one of the longest and widest :brow:
The cooling ability will be better than most similar systems due to how it's constructed.
I like the sound of that. Seems like airflow would be really nice. The open airflow is one of the things I love about the Tempest.
Sorry! I forgot talk about that point! Of course it feels great using it natively, and It helps to keep the stem cool. But if someone don´t use bongs and want to make a wood shield with a smaller diameter on that zone, i think it is not a problem. The point is the shield gives chances to make a lot of designs :rockon:
I'm a big fan of the modular heat shield design choice. Already dreaming of getting a custom exotic wood one made. Some nice chunky burl. Saves having to clean the wood stem carefully with q-tips. Everything that needs cleaning can just be dunked in iso.
 

RedZep

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cooling spirals were a thing in some smoking devices waaay before Sim****.
....its not his invention at all.
Yeah it's also widely adopted at this point. I'm glad someone is finally adapting and improving the design. I'm sick of those tiny, tight condenser tubes normally utilised. It's like you have to choose between good cooling or good airflow. If Brenyo is giving us both then I think that's fantastic.
 

T9R

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Very exciting! This feels like a reward for resisting VAS the first time around. :D

If you intend to use the Tempest 2 as a joint, how does it compare to the first version in terms of its "session mode"? How many hits can you expect to get from a heating cycle?
 
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