I feel like the more I read about the armored cap the more I’m leaning towards the captive cap lol. I don’t want to be torching for triple the amount of time than I would on the B. I hear some people have to keep heating the armored cap for 20+ seconds after it clicks? That sounds like over a minute of torching lol
Cool yeah I think the torch is the move for me. I like how I can put it on a small rig and not have to spin it. Is the B tip fine for the AC ya think or should I go with a diff tip? (Strictly water pipe usage)
Go for the Helix for airflow or the M+ for big heat capacity, hit, etc. Both are big enough that the one-hit extraction will be more challenging, but you could always set either to half.
Mine finally came too! Not a peep in communications, it was like Santa stopped!
Heya campers, anyone happen to have tried VC with the PillBottle Stones Stove?
I haven't tried heating with a yellow flame but I think you'd need the screen etc to make sure you're delivering enough heat. Seems like it'd be subject to conditions, and just when you want it most is when it'll be most problematic. If you're talking indoors, people seem to love the yellow-flame ritual.
After “charging” the stone (alcohol pre-soak), it can be lit with a match and simply blown out.
I’m looking at ultralight stoves and could see using this to heat up a meal or water for tea followed by a session coinciding with hot but not flaming stones. Vape after or before blowing out? Timing?
I could just go with an ultralight canister gas stove and butane torch the VC. So, that would be fuel canisters vs plastic bottle of ISO and matches. The alcohol is less safe than canisters, but charged stones are safest. I’ve never torched and probably prefer this stone especially as it wins in efficiency due to use of residual heat. Or just the gas stove and use it’s jets for heating the vapcap?
I’m a minimalist and have been VC + IH for years as my DD and sole vape.
Hmm ok. What about direct contact of cap to stone?
Not sure about that, tbh.
Hah! you could mfr a small lantern for it with the ring stones inside and it'll be a manual 'IH'! Bring everything full circle! ; )
Boo.
That sounds great!!
Seriously, you could make or buy a cheap alcohol lamp to try out the concept. Or just get the stones if you're gonna use them anyhow. Maybe it'll work!Boo.
That sounds great!!
Except the bit about me manufacturing.
I wonder if I could just drill a hole in one or two? Will it break? Will it dissolve?
Honestly i'm not sure that you could make it work or that it would be worth it if you could. But I think just using it like a big candle/lamp flame should work. I always assumed that even with a yellow flame you'd try to keep the discs out of the flame, but thinking about it now, maybe that's not the case? If not, those pills should work more or less the same, but probably with a lot more heat overall.
Ok thanks, was nearly contemplating a DIY project
I think it's good to have a healthy torch technique, it comes in handy and it's got its own joys. I prefer it slightly to my heaters. Outside you may need an additional jet or two, but otherwise one's best. With the stones I think it would essentially be like a big bic lighter or candle, which would be more challenging outside because of the relative strengths of the flames and levels of heat. The yellow flame would blow around more, and with less heat produced overall lower seasonal temps would affect your process, I would think.Ok thanks, was nearly contemplating a DIY project
Do you have any experience or thoughts then stone flame heating vs ultralight jet flame?
Ok clarified thanks. Though I was talking about jet flame from the gas stove. But it sounds like a multi jet lighter with decent capacity is the way to go outdoors.
From a stove, it will be more like a big multi-jet torch I would think. But yes, something like this is pretty nice. You can adjust it up or down per conditions and it should stay in range, more or less.
Thanks coolbreeze. I see a triple flame version of that torch available. Sorted.
If you run into trouble try a single flame to learn with, it's a bit more manageable and will give you a solid base to build on. The muti-flame torches go hard and fast!
That should be great. I like the SS tips for water, and that one makes big clouds. I've been using the Helix to go through water lately because of the open airflow. The AC and FMJ are great for water, too, as is the 9-fin, another heavy-hitting tip.